Ya know, I'm not a descendant of the Second Colony, but I really enjoyed this, Ginnie!! It put it all into perspective for me. I remember traveling to Falkenstein with Germanna, it is waaaay out there, but very beautiful. The main street was so steep that the bus couldn't go down it, so many of us walked down, only to have to walk up, which was okay because we had to walk off all of the brats with gravy and black bread!! Yummy!!! We also visited the church in Marienthal where Nicholas and Anna Maria were married--incredible! It's good to have these memories, I wish that I could remember other things as well! Barb Price In a message dated 1/28/2009 09:33:30 Pacific Standard Time, vrnuta@verizon.net writes: Hi Wetaunah -- Hey, please contact me directly if you are a Laban Yager descendant, because I am searching for these cousins. Franklin W. Yager, the subject of the biography you posted, is my 2nd great-grandfather. I am descended from his daughter "Jane," who was actually "Joan" or "Joanna" depending on the mood of the writer, and her husband Alfred J. Rhodes. This is a messed-up biography in the sense that there was not a true understanding of Franklin's ancestors. That is because, I believe, Franklin's wife Harriett, who was a family-proud type of person, gave this information to the biographer. There are suggestions that perhaps Franklin was ill or incompetent by 1898. Franklin died in 1904. Franklin's father was Laban Yager and his mother Sarah Carpenter. Sarah was the first of Laban's 3 wives; she died in 1826 in VA. Franklin was born in either Culpeper or Madison County, Virginia. (I tend to believe it was actually Madison County because his father, Laban, farmed land next to the homestead of Laban's grandfather "Blind" John Yager.) In 1836, the family migrated to Jefferson County, Kentucky. There they joined Laban's father, John W. Yager, who had migrated from Madison County, Virginia to Kentucky earlier, in 1822. Laban's father, John W. Yager was born 12 Nov. 1773; he married Margaret Wilhite or Wilhoit on Nov. 3, 1791 in what that year was Culpeper County and which shortly would be Madison County, they migrated to Boone County, KY, in 1822, and between 1830 and 1840 they migrated to Jefferson County, KY. He died 18 Apr 1851 and is buried in Hobb's Cemetery, outside Louisville, Jefferson Co., KY. Margaret had predeceased him on 25 Jan 1849; it is said she also is buried in Hobb's Cemetery. Margaret was the daughter of George Wilhoit and Elizabeth Utz. I tend to use the spelling "Wilhoit" for ease but it is not necessarily how they spelled the name. Margaret's husband, John W. Yager, unlike what this biography states, was most certainly NOT the immigrant from Germany. That honor is reserved for John W's grandfather Adam Yager and his great-grandather Nicholas Yager, who is listed as one of the original Germanna settlers and who is the progenitor of the family for whom Yager Mountain, in Madison Co., VA, is named. Harriet missed a couple of generations when she was describing the family for this 1898 biography! John W. Yager's father was "Blind" John Yager and his mother was Mary Margaret Wilhite or Wilhoit. You can see that the two generations would be pretty confusing to anyone. Mary Margaret Wilhoit was a 1st or 2nd cousin once removed from Margarent Wilhoit, her daughter-in-law. "Blind" John Yager was born 15 Dec. 1732 in Culpeper Co., VA, he lived to be very old and gradually grew blind, and died in 1826. His wife, Mary Margaret Wilhoit, was the daughter of John Christian Wilhoit and Waldburga Weaver. "Blind" John Yager was the son of Adam Yager and his mother was Susannah unknown. It was thought at one time that she was Susannah Kobler but that is no longer believed to be true. Adam was born in the area of Falkenstein, Pfalz, Germany, in 1708; he died in about 1793. Adam's father was Nicholas Yager, who was born, we believe, in Oberzell, Hesse, Germany. Oberzell is quite near the border of both Bavaria and Thuringia, and today is located in a UNESCO biosphere. Adam's mother was Anna Maria Seiber from Falkenstein, and she and Nicholas were married in 1706 in Marienthal, near Falkenstein, Pfalz, Germany. This may be more than you want to know. While I have a lot of information from John W. to the present on this family, I would say that Betty Johnson is the expert from John W. going back in time, or else Cathi Clore Frost who is NOT a Yager but who is writing a new Germanna Record on the Yagers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wetaunah Cates" <tonniec@windstream.net> To: <GERMANNA_COLONIES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:50 AM Subject: [GERMANNA] John Yager married Margaret Wilhite : Book source found >I tried to post this same message before, it never showed up, so I am >trying again. > Found this information concerning the above YAGER families in a book > entitled " Biographical and Genealogical History of Cass, Miami, Howard > and Franklin Counties, Indiana " compiled by Indiana University, > published Chicago, Lewis Publishing Company , 1898. Two Volumes. > I have these two volumes on inner library loan, and have permission to > copy anything from these books, as the copyright has long been expired, > per the loaning libray at Indiana University Libraries, DDS, 1320 E. 10th > #E065, Bloomington, Indiana 47405. > Taken from Volume I. pages 54-56, Frank W Yager > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)