Thank you Virginia, for helping clarify some of the Yager family lines for me. You did not make mention of Sarah Carpenter's parents, so I am asking, was her father, Samuel Carpenter, the same Samuel Carpenter, married twice, to Dinah Christler and Margaret Blankenbaker ? Was this Samuel Carpenter the same as Samuel, son of William Carpenter and Mary Wilhite? Thank you for any help, I appreciate your patience, and please forgive my bad formatting in my messages. It is intimidating for me posting here, and I am ashamed of it most of the time, but how else can I find out impertinent information others hold, if I do not brave the questions? Tonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Nuta" <vrnuta@verizon.net> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] John Yager married Margaret Wilhite : Book sourcefound > Hi Wetaunah -- > > Hey, please contact me directly if you are a Laban Yager descendant, > because > I am searching for these cousins. > > Franklin W. Yager, the subject of the biography you posted, is my 2nd > great-grandfather. I am descended from his daughter "Jane," who was > actually "Joan" or "Joanna" depending on the mood of the writer, and her > husband Alfred J. Rhodes. > > This is a messed-up biography in the sense that there was not a true > understanding of Franklin's ancestors. That is because, I believe, > Franklin's wife Harriett, who was a family-proud type of person, gave this > information to the biographer. There are suggestions that perhaps > Franklin > was ill or incompetent by 1898. Franklin died in 1904. > > Franklin's father was Laban Yager and his mother Sarah Carpenter. Sarah > was > the first of Laban's 3 wives; she died in 1826 in VA. Franklin was born > in > either Culpeper or Madison County, Virginia. (I tend to believe it was > actually Madison County because his father, Laban, farmed land next to the > homestead of Laban's grandfather "Blind" John Yager.) In 1836, the family > migrated to Jefferson County, Kentucky. There they joined Laban's father, > John W. Yager, who had migrated from Madison County, Virginia to Kentucky > earlier, in 1822. > > Laban's father, John W. Yager was born 12 Nov. 1773; he married Margaret > Wilhite or Wilhoit on Nov. 3, 1791 in what that year was Culpeper County > and > which shortly would be Madison County, they migrated to Boone County, KY, > in > 1822, and between 1830 and 1840 they migrated to Jefferson County, KY. He > died 18 Apr 1851 and is buried in Hobb's Cemetery, outside Louisville, > Jefferson Co., KY. Margaret had predeceased him on 25 Jan 1849; it is > said > she also is buried in Hobb's Cemetery. Margaret was the daughter of > George > Wilhoit and Elizabeth Utz. I tend to use the spelling "Wilhoit" for ease > but it is not necessarily how they spelled the name. > > Margaret's husband, John W. Yager, unlike what this biography states, was > most certainly NOT the immigrant from Germany. That honor is reserved for > John W's grandfather Adam Yager and his great-grandather Nicholas Yager, > who > is listed as one of the original Germanna settlers and who is the > progenitor > of the family for whom Yager Mountain, in Madison Co., VA, is named. > Harriet missed a couple of generations when she was describing the family > for this 1898 biography! > > John W. Yager's father was "Blind" John Yager and his mother was Mary > Margaret Wilhite or Wilhoit. You can see that the two generations would > be > pretty confusing to anyone. Mary Margaret Wilhoit was a 1st or 2nd cousin > once removed from Margarent Wilhoit, her daughter-in-law. "Blind" John > Yager was born 15 Dec. 1732 in Culpeper Co., VA, he lived to be very old > and > gradually grew blind, and died in 1826. His wife, Mary Margaret Wilhoit, > was the daughter of John Christian Wilhoit and Waldburga Weaver. > > "Blind" John Yager was the son of Adam Yager and his mother was Susannah > unknown. It was thought at one time that she was Susannah Kobler but that > is no longer believed to be true. Adam was born in the area of > Falkenstein, > Pfalz, Germany, in 1708; he died in about 1793. > > Adam's father was Nicholas Yager, who was born, we believe, in Oberzell, > Hesse, Germany. Oberzell is quite near the border of both Bavaria and > Thuringia, and today is located in a UNESCO biosphere. Adam's mother was > Anna Maria Seiber from Falkenstein, and she and Nicholas were married in > 1706 in Marienthal, near Falkenstein, Pfalz, Germany. > > This may be more than you want to know. While I have a lot of information > from John W. to the present on this family, I would say that Betty Johnson > is the expert from John W. going back in time, or else Cathi Clore Frost > who > is NOT a Yager but who is writing a new Germanna Record on the Yagers. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wetaunah Cates" <tonniec@windstream.net> > To: <GERMANNA_COLONIES@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:50 AM > Subject: [GERMANNA] John Yager married Margaret Wilhite : Book source > found > > >>I tried to post this same message before, it never showed up, so I am >>trying again. >> Found this information concerning the above YAGER families in a book >> entitled " Biographical and Genealogical History of Cass, Miami, Howard >> and Franklin Counties, Indiana " compiled by Indiana University, >> published Chicago, Lewis Publishing Company , 1898. Two Volumes. >> I have these two volumes on inner library loan, and have permission to >> copy anything from these books, as the copyright has long been expired, >> per the loaning libray at Indiana University Libraries, DDS, 1320 E. >> 10th >> #E065, Bloomington, Indiana 47405. >> Taken from Volume I. pages 54-56, Frank W Yager >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >