Hello Virginia,   I have been studying the Germanna webpages for several years, but could not quite come to the conclusion that my family was a part of that group.   It was very easy to trace my mother's family because the name Crisler was predominate. My mother would have been so happy to have gotten in touch with her ancestral line. All she really knew was her grandmother and grandfather who were the sweetest people one could ever find. My g grandfather was of the Crisler + line with his mother being Louisa Eldra Crisler.   Would you mind sending me your family history and possibly any little notes you have on their lives? I love it when I can put living people to the names of the past. I would love to see how we are related and have a great program that figures out relationships quickly without my having to chew on a pencil.   I don't know where I got the name Barbara von Schellenberg. The following is the note I have on Leonard Crisler and his marriages: 1 Leonard Christler b: 1683 d: 1748 + Eliza Margaret + Anna Maria Bender b: 1687. Does this appear accurate to you? Do you have any references to documentary proof of any of his life. I am severely lacking there.   I want to thank you very much for your speedy response to my question. I have thought for years that our family may be a part of this group, but was not certain, so never wrote. It is through my g grandfather that my Crisler family descends and I have been in touch with some of them in TX. It has been a long time, but I am certain some of them are still there.   Great Grandfather and Grandmother were precious souls who loved one another and their family and never grew tired of having offspring present. I have a second cousin in Alabama who is a son of the John Martin Barr who got as far as TX and turned back to Alabama with my g grandmother. The rest of his children are gone now but since I found this cousin, we have kept in touch right along.   Thank you so much Virginia for helping me understand where I fit. As I am always curious, I will probably be asking questions many of you have answered and put in the back of your mind a long time ago. Please put up with my "newbie" status and bear with me.   Patty Sims Quincy, CA