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    1. Re: [GERMANNA] Naturalizations of 2nd Colony members
    2. A guess: The first colony expected to be indentured servants and only served a few years while the Second Colony were tricked by the "English" into a much longer period of indenture. They had protested and were taken into the court system and forced into more slavery. I don't think they trusted the entire English system. They did not baptize their children or marry in the Anglican church which was required. They referred to their settlement as Zoar, the land Lot fled to after Sodom. I think that says something regarding where they felt they had come from. We really don't know what happened in Germanna nor how they were really treated. We do know they named their new church Hebron which means community/affinity and some hamlets were even named "Heaven". It is beautiful today, it must have been awesome in 1725. Susan In a message dated 10/10/2010 6:36:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi All, I was looking for information on property ownership around 1725 when I pondered the question as to whether a person had to be naturalized in order to own land. (The answer is that you did not need to be naturalized to own property, but you could not legally pass property on to your heirs if you were not naturalized.) I noticed that quite a few 1st Colony members were naturalized as early as 1722 and 1724, but I don't see any second Colony members naturalized prior to about 1743. Granted this is not an exhaustive search – I scanned my Beyond Germanna CD and all of John’s Short Notes. Does anyone have any evidence of any 2nd Colony members being naturalized before 1740, or more specifically before they moved to the Robinson River valley in 1725? Any thoughts on why the 2nd Colony (in general) waited so long? Thanks, -Jeff Aylor If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/23/2010 06:53:38
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] Naturalizations of 2nd Colony members
    2. Suzanne Matson
    3. The 1714 group apparently pooled their remaining funds at the suggestion of Graffenried when he encountered them in London on his way home to Switzerland. Graffenried at that point unable to help them financially having left the Virginia colony owing money to creditors. The money pooled paid for approximately half their journey to the Virginia colony. Colonel Blakiston, agent for Virginia in London, committed Lt. Governor Alexander Spotswood to pay the remainder of the passage. Since the passage had to be paid in advance, two Virginia merchants advanced the money and the ship's captain was to collect from Spotswood they money they had advanced. This is a very brief account of the events. For further reading and more detail, I recommend Graffenried's account of his travels in the American colonies. The 1714 group lived approximately 4 years at Germanna; however, Spotswood stated they did not begin work for him until 1716 and that work concluded in 1718. >From some recent reading I've done in primary documents, it may be that the 1714 group did not construct the fort themselves. Suzanne Collins Matson ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, October 24, 2010 12:53:38 AM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Naturalizations of 2nd Colony members A guess: The first colony expected to be indentured servants and only served a few years while the Second Colony were tricked by the "English" into a much longer period of indenture. They had protested and were taken into the court system and forced into more slavery. I don't think they trusted the entire English system. They did not baptize their children or marry in the Anglican church which was required. They referred to their settlement as Zoar, the land Lot fled to after Sodom. I think that says something regarding where they felt they had come from. We really don't know what happened in Germanna nor how they were really treated. We do know they named their new church Hebron which means community/affinity and some hamlets were even named "Heaven". It is beautiful today, it must have been awesome in 1725. Susan In a message dated 10/10/2010 6:36:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi All, I was looking for information on property ownership around 1725 when I pondered the question as to whether a person had to be naturalized in order to own land. (The answer is that you did not need to be naturalized to own property, but you could not legally pass property on to your heirs if you were not naturalized.) I noticed that quite a few 1st Colony members were naturalized as early as 1722 and 1724, but I don't see any second Colony members naturalized prior to about 1743. Granted this is not an exhaustive search – I scanned my Beyond Germanna CD and all of John’s Short Notes. Does anyone have any evidence of any 2nd Colony members being naturalized before 1740, or more specifically before they moved to the Robinson River valley in 1725? Any thoughts on why the 2nd Colony (in general) waited so long? Thanks, -Jeff Aylor If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/24/2010 01:16:42