Yes, there is a Philip Wendel, aged 34, that accompanied Augustine Wendel on the ship, "Samuel,": "Strassberger's "Pennsylvania German Pioneers," Vol. I, pp. 60, 64 and 65, shows that Augustinus Wendell, aged 16, and Philip Wendel, aged 34, arrived in Philadelphia Aug. 11, 1732 on the ship "Samuel." ...."Philip Wendel, who according to the record was b. 1698, was probably an older brother or an uncle of Augustine (we may note here that the eldest son of Christopher and Catherine Bromback Windle was named Philip). This older Philip seems to have been too young to have been the father of Augustine, and nothing further is know of him. Christopher and Valentine Windle must have come to America later, for Philip and Augustine came over by themselves in 1732. That particular ship's list contains the names of women and children, as well as males over 16, and no Windle women or children appear." The Wendel/Windles were definitely in the valley prior to 1743 because the marriage of Catherine Brumback and Christopher took place around 1737-8. There's a deed in Prince William Co., deeding away the Germantown land of Melchior Brumback, the First Colonist, and Catherine's father and Christopher Wingle is mentioned, this was in 1746. There is also a 1774 deed from Philip Windle to Christopher Windle, Sr regarding land granted to Philip in 1760, which would put his date of birth at least as early as 1739, more proof that they were there prior to 1743. Barb Price In a message dated 7/11/2010 10:57:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: In a message dated 7/11/2010 9:57:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: He goes on to state that all 3 brothers that came to America, Augustine, Christopher and Valentine, were naturalized on 5 May 1747 in Frederick Co., VA, "being German Protestants who had lived in Virginia over 7 years, and that they had all taken the sacrament in preparation for naturalization from Rev. Samuel Klug (who was the second pastor of Hebron Lutheran Church)". He notes that this record is located in Frederick County Order Book 2, p. 238. Hopefully, you can get this record!! I hope this helps and let us know what you find! Barb Price Barb, This puts all three brothers in the Valley before 1743. Does the book mention if their father came too? I have been told that Hans Philip WENDEL did come and died in Shenandoah County. I have the following survey and thought that this may be him. "Northern Neck Warrants and Surveys-Frederick County-1747-1780" Volume II Page 160 Philip VENDALL/WENDAL, assignee of Christopher VANDALL 17 Feb 1751, 25 Apr 1752 220 acres on Toms Brooks. Adjoining Christopher's late survey. CC: Vallintine WENDALL, Ulrick STONER and Mathias GABBERT Surveyor: Robert RUTHERFORD. If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I should have noted that the deed from Philip Windle to Christopher, Sr is from Christopher's son, Philip! Too confusing with so many of them with the same name! Barb Price Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:17:57 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] WENDEL Yes, there is a Philip Wendel, aged 34, that accompanied Augustine Wendel on the ship, "Samuel,": "Strassberger's "Pennsylvania German Pioneers," Vol. I, pp. 60, 64 and 65, shows that Augustinus Wendell, aged 16, and Philip Wendel, aged 34, arrived in Philadelphia Aug. 11, 1732 on the ship "Samuel." ...."Philip Wendel, who according to the record was b. 1698, was probably an older brother or an uncle of Augustine (we may note here that the eldest son of Christopher and Catherine Bromback Windle was named Philip). This older Philip seems to have been too young to have been the father of Augustine, and nothing further is know of him. Christopher and Valentine Windle must have come to America later, for Philip and Augustine came over by themselves in 1732. That particular ship's list contains the names of women and children, as well as males over 16, and no Windle women or children appear." The Wendel/Windles were definitely in the valley prior to 1743 because the marriage of Catherine Brumback and Christopher took place around 1737-8. There's a deed in Prince William Co., deeding away the Germantown land of Melchior Brumback, the First Colonist, and Catherine's father and Christopher Wingle is mentioned, this was in 1746. There is also a 1774 deed from Philip Windle to Christopher Windle, Sr regarding land granted to Philip in 1760, which would put his date of birth at least as early as 1739, more proof that they were there prior to 1743. Barb Price In a message dated 7/11/2010 10:57:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: In a message dated 7/11/2010 9:57:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: He goes on to state that all 3 brothers that came to America, Augustine, Christopher and Valentine, were naturalized on 5 May 1747 in Frederick Co., VA, "being German Protestants who had lived in Virginia over 7 years, and that they had all taken the sacrament in preparation for naturalization from Rev. Samuel Klug (who was the second pastor of Hebron Lutheran Church)". He notes that this record is located in Frederick County Order Book 2, p. 238. Hopefully, you can get this record!! I hope this helps and let us know what you find! Barb Price Barb, This puts all three brothers in the Valley before 1743. Does the book mention if their father came too? I have been told that Hans Philip WENDEL did come and died in Shenandoah County. I have the following survey and thought that this may be him. "Northern Neck Warrants and Surveys-Frederick County-1747-1780" Volume II Page 160 Philip VENDALL/WENDAL, assignee of Christopher VANDALL 17 Feb 1751, 25 Apr 1752 220 acres on Toms Brooks. Adjoining Christopher's late survey. CC: Vallintine WENDALL, Ulrick STONER and Mathias GABBERT Surveyor: Robert RUTHERFORD. If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message