Jill, they were father and son -- the elder was the one that you referenced and his son is the one that I am interested in -- married Anna Magdalena Thomas. Thanks, Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: Jill Farinelli <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, Jul 1, 2010 6:09 pm Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] GERMANNA_COLONIES Digest, Vol 5, Issue 192 Marilyn, Is the John Michael Schmidt/Smith in your message the same one who sailed with the Rev. Johann Caspar Stoever (Sr.) from England in 1738? (Stoever was on a fund-raising mission in Europe from 1734-1738 for the Hebron church and died at sea on the return trip. Smith accompanied him on the trip and is named in Stoever's will, which was written at sea just before he died.) Jill