To Harriet, Thank you so much for sharing the knowledge of how you got into HeritageQuest, I appreciate that... even after the hoopla regarding my question about the code, you still offered assistance. Thank you, I sincerely hope the sun shines warm upon your face today. Cary, thank you for the tip that my own library might have HeritageQuest. They do not, but you have no way of knowing that... Chocy, Thank you for the "Thank you" that you gave me for giving out an avenue to explore, but I can't take credit for that... If you look closely at the email you replied to, that was not sent by me, but by Cary. Craig, I did not intend to cause you to be taken aback by my question regarding "the code". Harriet's email about how she got into HeritageQuest was the first one I read... If you read it, she says how she googled the library's name, it worked, and she went to HeritageQuest and that it was a nice surprise. I thought she went there on someone's suggestion. I did the same, the site asked me for "the code", not a library card. I would not ask someone for their card number, but I thought it might be a shared group code. Many of the other genealogy groups I belong to do... Craig, you also commented that there are many options other than my bankrupt local library... Look closely at the email you were responding to... I'm not the one who wrote that their library is bankrupt, that was Chocy commenting that his/her city finds other ways to spend tax dollars. You also commented to Mary that I had figured it out anyway, using my own state's system. Look again, I did not post that I had accomplished that feat, that was CookerLP, among a few others. This is the only time I have posted anything since my asking "What's the code to enter". Cary, you wrote in your last email of arthritis and a slowing of the thinking process... I am truly sorry to hear that. Someone mentioned in this thread of emails "See, how hard was that?" I'm sure you know that it can be hard sometimes... I was thrilled to think, for a moment, that this group also openly shares access to websites. I thought it was being shared, for one reason, because Harriet went to a site online, not in person to a library, and got into it. That sounded good to me, as I am a disabled Veteran, and find it exceedingly difficult to get around. I am also going blind, so being able to read something on my own assisted monitor is helpful. I've been doing research longer than I can remember... 20 years in the military, then with DEA, now on my own... I have gotten back to the 1500s on some, brick walls in the 1700s on others. Like many of us, I have shelves and shelves, and boxes galore of research I have done. It is, pretty much, the only joy I have now, even if it is only vicariously living through someone else's thrill of uncovering what was once a mystery. I quit reading most of the emails on Germanna that didn't have a Surname in the subject line, because, too many times, I would open up an email that was nothing more than someone going on a tirade and being rude. Someone here mentioned that asking for an access code is "rather cheesy", and "is the surest say (way?) to get kicked off of them". I'm glad the other groups I belong to openly share with each other, it makes research so much more fun, and the human contact so much more pleasant. I will admit that reading these emails can sometimes be like "who's on first", maybe there is some type of enjoyment in that... By the way, Craig, are you by any chance related to Kilby family up near Elyria, OH? Fred Kilby in particular, was a wonderful young man... Thanks for the patience and understanding of all... In a few hours, I will move outside, or by a window, close my eyes, and feel the beautiful warmth of sunshine on my face and be at peace. I wish the same for all of you. Kathy