Marilyn; The page I scanned for your is from the actual Ortsippenbuch. Anita -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cathi Clore Frost Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:38 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Sources It appears to be the same book with the information just formatted differently. Except Oberöwisheim church records. FHL INTL Film #1,192 078 Neuenbürg which appears to be the microfilm of the church records because of the FHL international film number. >From what I understand about Ortssippenbucher through discussion of the topic several years ago on the Ostfriesland list (the Ostfriesland area of NW Germany has had a number published), the authors spend many years studying the church records before compiling the information in the church records into family groups. Cathi ----- Original Message ----- From: <gneolog@aol.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com>; <germans-va@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:04 PM Subject: [GERMANNA] Sources >I need some help > > Are these two the same sources > > > KarlDifenbacher and Klaus Rössler, Ortssippenbuch Oberöwisheim1648-1900 > und Neuenbürg 1785-1900, (Frankfurt am Main, Germany: Zentralstellfür > Personen- und Familiengeschiste, 1990), > > Ortssippenbuch Oberöwisheim - Neuenbürg Stadtteile von Kraichtal, Landreis > Karlsruhe berbeitet von Karl Diefenbacherund Klaus Rössler > > And I THINK that this is a book of extractions from the actual records but > then I also have this reference which I am wondering if it is the actual > Church records > > Oberöwisheim church records. FHL INTL Film #1,192 078 Neuenbürg > > And then this looks like the same extraction with a reference to where it > can be researched. > > Ortssippenbuch Oberöwisheim-Neuenbürg, Stadtteile von Kraichtal, Landkreis > Karlsruhe*", bearbeitet (editors) von Karl Diefenbacher und Klaus > Rössler, (publication info) Deutsche Ortsippenbúcher, herausgegeben von > der Zentralstelle fúr Personen- und Familiengeschichte, Frankfurt am Main, > Reihe A- Band 203,..., Zugleich Band 72 der Badischen Ortsippenbúcher, > Lahr- Dinglingen > English title is Village genealogy book for Oberöwisheim 1648-1900 and > Neuenbürg 1785-1900. It is one in a series of volumes published by the > Zentralstelle for Family History in Frankfurt am Main, Germany. > The Family History Library has a copy and the call # is 943 B4do, ser. A, > v. 203. > > I feel sure that many of us - have these for references and would like for > to try to match my source info with that of everyone else using these > references. All help appreciated. Take care. Marilyn TN Germanna Reunion - Sept. 9-11 http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/easttennesseereunion2011.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ortsippenbuchs are wonderful! After I had learned to interpret the German Church records of my "Katz village" Hocdorf and organized all my direct ancestry there, an Ortsippenbuch was published. I ordered a copy from the author-editor and was certainly excited when it arrived. Imageine my surprise when I found that I had made only one error of interpreting a record, but lo and behold so had the author/editor made one error. I could see how that had happened as he did not have access to the American side of that group of imigrants. But best of all, the book also included Tax and military records, which with my finds in surrounding villages of Katz ancestry, I was able to document the Katz family back to 1475 in Hochorf-Nagold. Even if you have an Ortsippenbuch for you village, I really think it wise to get the church microfilm and look up at least your direct line. I think it is great to have the Godparents names. It is rare that I have found close relatives as Godparents, but in Hochdorf, the Katz village, everyone descends from a Katz someway. Some more than others--I found one that had descent at least a dozen ways from the original Katz. About 300 left for America over the years. This is the joy of using the original churchbooks. Yes, it is a struggle at the beginning, but I have seen many folks at the FHC here become able to extract the important information, or at least identify persons who who be relatives. Usually, someone is around who can help. Also, it is a lot of fun trying to decipher the script so you can look up the words in a German-English dictionary. Cary