Does anyone know if the Rev. Anthony Jacob Henckel and his family traveled with the Germanna group that came in 1717? The information I have seen states they came to Philadelphia in 1717 and there were three ships. Also, thanks to Lisa for mentioning the book on Lutheran history in Pa. On page 80 it states the grave of Mrs. Anthony Jacob Henckle was opened in 1910 at St. Michaels in Philadelphia to see if her husband, the pastor at St. Michael's was buried first and she on top of him. They found that to be true. Was this a custom at that time? I have read that it was common in Germany as burial spots were rented for twenty years. If someone was buried on top, then there would be twenty additional years. However, space surely was not a problem in Philadelphia. Lisa, I also descend from the Heifner family in Pa and Maryland which may be the same family you mentioned, only spelled Haffner. My immigrant ancestor was Albertus Heifner, Lutheran school teacher. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Nuta" <vrnuta@verizon.net> To: <germans-va@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] [GERMANS-VA] Asking for Assistance > Suzanne's right about the two Virginia colonies referred to as "Germanna," > but let me just add that as far as the 1717 Germanna group goes, they had > intended to land in PA, and it is believed that there were three other > ships > leaving at the same time which did land in Pennsylvania. > > Thus, it is possible that their friends and relatives arrived in PA and > some > did then travel south to VA and joined the group. We commonly acknowledge > many families, even if they weren't in the original group, as Second > Colony > Germanna families because they married into the original families, (who > had > arrived in VA), lived in the same German-speaking community, and built > and > worshipped in a Lutheran church together. > > Some such families came fairly early, like the Wilheits and the > Carpenters. > Others came later. Mathias House, for example, arrived in Culpeper Co., > VA, > in 1771 and is thought to have come from Augusta County. What is most > fascinating to me is that many of the "later" arriving families, who > settled > with the Second Colony Germanna families, were from the same villages. > For > example, the Koch/Cook family, which was an original Second Colony > Germanna > family, was from Schwaigern, Germany. They were later joined by the > Wilheits, the Leathers, the Reiners, the Baumgardners, and the Teters. > The > Blankenbaker, Schaible, Schlucter, Thomas and Fleishman families all came > from Nuenburg, but the Thomas family came later. > > These later arrivals would have come through Pennsylvania. > > The more I learn, the more I believe that the ancestors moved around a lot > more than we think and communicated more with their families and neighbors > than we think. > > Virginia Nuta > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Suzanne Matson" <scmatson@windstream.net> > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 6:05 PM > To: <germans-va@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [GERMANS-VA] Asking for Assistance > >> The Germanna groups did not land in NY or PA. They landed in Virginia, >> one >> group in 1714 and one group in 1717. >> http://germannacolonies.org is an excellent place to look. >> >> Suzanne Collins Matson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: germans-va-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:germans-va-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of susi c pentico >> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 5:57 PM >> To: germans-va@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [GERMANS-VA] Asking for Assistance >> >> >> Since your talking of Germannia here I am hoping this will be accepted >> and >> answered. >> >> Since the Gremannia people migrated south to this area I need help with >> potential urls and sites to learn of information in NY or Pa for >> researching >> this line as it came south. Does anyone have good urls or sources to >> share? >> >> Please and Thanks >> >> I am still attempting to see if my John is from the Germannnia group. >> >> Susi >> ******** >> Hear Bill Barker (aka Thomas Jefferson at Colonial Williamsburg) speak >> October 1, 2011, at Graves Mountain Lodge, Madison Co, VA. For more >> information: http://germannacolonies.org >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANS-VA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ******** >> Hear Bill Barker (aka Thomas Jefferson at Colonial Williamsburg) speak >> October 1, 2011, at Graves Mountain Lodge, Madison Co, VA. For more >> information: http://germannacolonies.org >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANS-VA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ******** > Hear Bill Barker (aka Thomas Jefferson at Colonial Williamsburg) speak > October 1, 2011, at Graves Mountain Lodge, Madison Co, VA. For more > information: http://germannacolonies.org > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANS-VA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > TN Germanna Reunion - Sept. 9-11 > http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/easttennesseereunion2011.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >