Searching these lists for Wilhite(sic). In the Virginia Tax List(1791) there is a John, William,Michael with sons. On another page there is Tobias Wilhoit and sons. I never seem to find Matthias. Trying to figure out ages. I know my John Wilhite signed for a Tobias to marry Nancy Margaret Ellis in 1801 in Woodford County. John also signed for another son Acquilles to marry Mary Hall in Woodford County. My line comes from Tobias, Matthias, another Michael and then a cross between the two lines. Also have problems with the children of Matthias(?) and Tobias and my computer won't let me delete the ones I assigned to each. Any suggestions?

Lord Dunmore's War is not considered part of the Revolutionary War and service in that war does not qualify for RW Service. Service in Lord Dunmore's War does not preclude later service in the Revolutionary War. Suzanne Collins Matson --- On Sat, 9/24/11, gneolog@aol.com <gneolog@aol.com> wrote: > From: gneolog@aol.com <gneolog@aol.com> > Subject: [GERMANNA] Rev. War > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, September 24, 2011, 8:48 PM > I am collecting War of 1812 notes to > send and came across this one from the Rev. War. > > We know that we have Michael Thomas, son of Johannes and > his son Abraham who served. This is another son of > Michael's. > > In November, 1775, Jesse Thomas was paid for his services > in the Lord Dunmore War, serving under Colonel John > Fields.  Included in this company were Christopher > Barlow, George Hupp, Lewis Garr, Mathias Broyle, Bernard > Fisher, Samuel Blankenbaker, and John Broyle.  (Source: > Lord Dunmore’s Little War of 1774, by Skidmore and > Kaminsky p.87) > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Added a picture of the Michael Thomas house in Rockingham Co., NC and a brief history of the house. I have more info to add about this 200 + year old house. Take care, Marilyn

The original thread was from me asking people for burials of War of 1812 vets in Virginia. This is for a book being put out the Virginia Society of the War of 1812. Naturally, these sorts of topics morph into other areas. So, short answer is yes, the book is limited to people buried in Virginia. On Sep 23, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Brandon Tanner wrote: > Oh is it limited to Virginia? He is most likely buried in Barren County, KY. > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Craig Kilby <craig@craigkilby.com> wrote: >> Unfortunately, we have NO Tanners in database for veterans buried in Virginia. There surely must some! >> >> Craig >> >> On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Brandon Tanner wrote: >> >>> If anyone is interested, Frederick Tanner fought in the War of 1812. I >>> have some rolls of this if anyone is interested. >>> >>> -Brandon Tanner

But volunteers are helping identify all Germanna-related 1812 veterans to honor their memory on the Germanna Foundation webpage On Sep 23, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Craig Kilby <craig@craigkilby.com> wrote: The original thread was from me asking people for burials of War of 1812 vets in Virginia. This is for a book being put out the Virginia Society of the War of 1812. Naturally, these sorts of topics morph into other areas. So, short answer is yes, the book is limited to people buried in Virginia. On Sep 23, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Brandon Tanner wrote: Oh is it limited to Virginia? He is most likely buried in Barren County, KY. On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Craig Kilby <craig@craigkilby.com> wrote: Unfortunately, we have NO Tanners in database for veterans buried in Virginia. There surely must some! Craig On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Brandon Tanner wrote: If anyone is interested, Frederick Tanner fought in the War of 1812. I have some rolls of this if anyone is interested. -Brandon Tanner ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Unfortunately, we have NO Tanners in database for veterans buried in Virginia. There surely must some! Craig On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Brandon Tanner wrote: > If anyone is interested, Frederick Tanner fought in the War of 1812. I > have some rolls of this if anyone is interested. > > -Brandon Tanner > > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Marc Wheat <germanna1714@yahoo.com> wrote: >> I personally did not know of any, but there is a good discussion of those Germanna people who fought in the "Second War of Independence" on the Germanna Foundation's Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/GermannaFoundation >> >> >> >> You're missing it! TN Germanna Reunion - Sept. 9-11 http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/easttennesseereunion2011.html >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh is it limited to Virginia? He is most likely buried in Barren County, KY. On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Craig Kilby <craig@craigkilby.com> wrote: > Unfortunately, we have NO Tanners in database for veterans buried in Virginia. There surely must some! > > Craig > > On Sep 23, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Brandon Tanner wrote: > >> If anyone is interested, Frederick Tanner fought in the War of 1812. I >> have some rolls of this if anyone is interested. >> >> -Brandon Tanner >> >> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Marc Wheat <germanna1714@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> I personally did not know of any, but there is a good discussion of those Germanna people who fought in the "Second War of Independence" on the Germanna Foundation's Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/GermannaFoundation >>> >>> >>> >>> You're missing it! TN Germanna Reunion - Sept. 9-11 http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/easttennesseereunion2011.html >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If anyone is interested, Frederick Tanner fought in the War of 1812. I have some rolls of this if anyone is interested. -Brandon Tanner On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Marc Wheat <germanna1714@yahoo.com> wrote: > I personally did not know of any, but there is a good discussion of those Germanna people who fought in the "Second War of Independence" on the Germanna Foundation's Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/GermannaFoundation > > > > You're missing it! TN Germanna Reunion - Sept. 9-11 http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/easttennesseereunion2011.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Added the original survey for Samuel Thomas in Washington Co., PA and updated the events in his life. Should be able to cross him off my list now <smile> Many hours spent Pennsylvania microfilms and Bracken County, Kentucky. Anyone else in the Washington/Greene Co., Pa 1775-1800 time period or Bracken Co., KY in the 1800-1850 time period? Take care, Marilyn

Elizabeth Clore and her second husband Johannes Becker aka John Baker were also in Washington Co, PA and then Bracken Co, KY. Her son Jesse Bumgarner, the only child of her first marriage to Adam Baumgardner, remained in Washington Co, PA where Jesse inherited land from his uncle George Bumgarner. ----- Original Message ----- From: <gneolog@aol.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com>; <germans-va@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:08 PM Subject: [GERMANNA] Survey for Samuel Thomas > Added the original survey for Samuel Thomas in Washington Co., PA and > updated the events in his life. Should be able to cross him off my list > now <smile> Many hours spent Pennsylvania microfilms and Bracken County, > Kentucky. Anyone else in the Washington/Greene Co., Pa 1775-1800 time > period or Bracken Co., KY in the 1800-1850 time period? Take care, Marilyn > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Craig et al, In answer to your question about "disconnecting" unwanted family members from the tree, I have listed the procedure that I've been using. I'm sure there is a better way that I haven't discovered yet in my limited universe, but here goes: 1. On the Family Tree Page, hover your mouse over the individual's name for whom you want to change or delete family members (i.e., the father, mother, etc of "John Jones") 2. While still hovering over "John Jones", see the tabs at bottom, and click on "View Profile", which brings up the Profile Page for John Jones. 3. Under John's name, highlighted in dark gray, click on "Edit this Person." This brings up the "Vital Information Page" for John Jones. 4. Click on the "Relationships" tab under his name. You will see Father, Mother, Spouse, and Children. 5. All the way over on the right hand side of each relationship, you will see the word "Remove". NOTE: This WILL NOT remove the person from the tree, only the RELATIONSHIP to John Jones. It will allow you to add another name as Father, etc. To REMOVE THE PERSON ENTIRELY from the tree, see #7 below. 6. To enter another name for John Jones' father, click "Add Father". When you do this, a box will appear and at top of box, you will see "Select Someone Already in Your Tree - Select From List" (this allows you to see what names are already in the Family Tree without adding a duplicate of same name). The "List" screen appears, and at far right, enter last name in Search field if you know the EXACT spelling; otherwise, enter the first few letters of the last name and click SEARCH. (it's very fickle - if you search for the whole name, you must know the exact spelling of the name, the way it is entered in the Family Tree). Now you can see all the Jones' in your tree and select the correct one for John's father. Do the same for mother, children, etc. If the person is not in the List of Names, then you can add a new name on the same screen under "Create a New Person in Your Tree" (below "Select Someone Already in Your Tree - Slect From List." 7. To REMOVE THE ENTIRE PERSON from your tree: This removes the PERSON, not the members of his family, so you will need to follow the same procedure for each member of his family: a. Go to "Profile Page" for the father that you disconnected from John Jones -- you can search for his name using "Find a Person in This Tree, then click on drop-down menu "List of All People." Using the same method above under #3, click on "Edit this Person." This time, on the right hand side of the page, across from the disconnected father's name, you will see a little trash can, and "Delete 'name of person'". This REMOVES the person ENTIRELY from the tree. HINT: if you have to delete all the members of this family, I usually start with the children's names, then the spouse, and lastly the individual. Hope this makes some sort of sense. As I said, I'm sure there are other ways to do this, but it works for me. If someone finds an easier way, please let me know. Happy Searching! Mary Kelley Blendy -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Craig Kilby Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:00 AM To: germans-va@rootsweb.com; germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] [GERMANS-VA] Replying to Digest Mode Sarge, Agreed, Same goes for your five trailers here. They get repeated with everything--and if you don't snip them, then repeated twice, and so on. As a list administrator myself, I try to remind users of this. But, I may as well be talking to the wall. Imposing byte limits on posts just creates more work for me because then they bounce to me and I have to review them, and it's just easier to pass them through and have people use up more byte space complaining about it. Call me defeated on this one. I give up. This is nothing new. As an illustration, I'm responding to your entire post just to show how it goes. Loving the ancestry.com site you put up. That was a bold move, but a good one. I haven't been that active on it lately, but just knowing it's there is a good feeling. And no, I have still not mastered it but I am sticking to things I REALLY now for sure and trying to tread slowly as I go along. I really appreciate the helpful hints you and others are sending to us. I still have not learned out how to "disconnect" marriages and children. A main thing to always do is check if a person or a source is already there. I, personally, do not need every "location" to give me the genealogy of the particular county. I use the county where the event occurred at the time that county was which. I find the location source of say, "Madison, 1793; Culpeper 1749; Orange.....etc" very annoying. So, for things I've worked on, I've just changed it to the county where the record is filed. We don't all need nursemaiding. That being said, if I see something like "married in Madison County in 1750....uh, no they weren't as that county did not exist then. I'd like to hear others thoughts on this, as I suppose we should all try to be consistent with one another. Craig

Maybe this Sarah Jane PENCE is the one who married Elias HOBAUGH in Miami, IN on 26 Oct 1845. That is the best I can do. Different Sarah Jane -- popular name. Thanks for checking. Take care. Marilyn

Maybe this Sarah Jane PENCE is the one who married Elias HOBAUGH in Miami, IN on 26 Oct 1845. That is the best I can do. > <gneolog@aol.com> wrote: > >> >> Pence and Snyder -- questions about both >> >> I >> Pence family -- if anyone is following all of them. I have Pence lines in >> Champaign/Clark Co., OH (Wesley pre 1850), Sarah Jane 1833 Ohio (no parents) >> and one line from Samuel PEnce born 1820 Mifflin Co., PA -- line to OH and >> Noble Co., IN >> >> >

Cary, Thank you for sharing this news about Dot White. It was through you that I met her and I thank you for that. I know that she will be missed. Barb Price Message: 7 Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:51:21 -0500 From: "Cary Anderson" <drcary@cox.net> Subject: [GERMANNA] Dot White To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003801cc76e3$feace820$ca42ba62@ks.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" The following will be of interest to those who knew Dot White either personally or via this list. I her death notice cuts and pastes. For many years, she and I enjoyed a tremendous correspondence, genealogical and many other subjects. Cary R.I.P. This is the copy of the notice published in The Richmond Times-Dispatch: Dorothy Lee Clontz White departed this life September 14, 2011 in peaceful anticipation at her home. She was preceded in death by her parents, Robert Luther Clontz and Minnie Odessa Beckham Clontz of Charlotte, NC and her former husband, Robert Haywood White. Her two sons, Robert Edward White of Powder Springs, GA and Donald Haywood White of Henrico, VA cherish her memory along with daughter-in-law Martha White, two grandchildren, Jaime and Ashley, and one great-grandchild, Asher, and a host of cousins and nieces, other relatives, and friends. Dorothy served the home front during World War II as an operator with Southern Bell in Charleston, SC and Charlotte, NC. Throughout her long and productive life, she worked with churches and groups such as the American Association of Retired Persons, where she served as Florida manager of the AARP-VOTE project. Dorothy was a dedicated and tireless genealogist and a valued member of the Chancellor Wythe Chapter, Daughters of the America! n Revolution. A memorial service for Dorothy will be led by the Rev. April Greenwood, Vicar at Varina Episcopal Church, 2385 Mill Road, Henrico, VA 23231 on Wednesday evening, September 21, beginning at 6:30 P.M. Those attending are asked to consider donating a non-perishable food item to the Food Pantry ministry of Varina Episcopal Church for distribution to the community. Dorothy will be interred with her former husband later at the Salisbury, NC national cemetery. -****************************

Thank you for this addition to my knowledge. Wherever I find Holtzclaws, sometimes in the adjoining county, I generally find Kempers.  Some books of early marriages in Kentucky show multiple marriages of these two families.  And of course, one of the sisters of my John Frederick Kemper of Garrard Co. KY and later of Victoria Co., TX married Lytle [sp?] Smith of Garrard Co.  If my memory is not scrambled, I believe I found Smith as an immigrant to Missouri but he later returned to Garrard Co. after his wife died.  The Holtzclaw males seemingly had the knowledge of how to acquire land in both Virginia and in Kentucky (which did not become a state until 1792).  The Kempers frequently bought land from them, not being the first grantees or patentees. My advice to those who have lost their Kentucky relatives;  Look in Missouri.  Or Indiana.  Or even Illinois. Possibly the website for General Land Office--Bureau of Land Management may give a hint.  Also, I learned many years to my delight that the Missouri Historical Society has a great collection of Missouri papers--even legal newspapers, where my researcher found a very-much-needed obituary which gave good genealogical detail of the deceased wife of an attorney, who was a cousin to my great-grandfather.  And, of course, that cousin grew up in a *burned* county in Illinois!!! E.W.Wallace ________________________________ From: "gneolog@aol.com" <gneolog@aol.com> To: hdanw@verizon.net; germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 5:52 AM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] [VAFAUQUI] Response toThornton Christie and Alexander Welch 14 pages, chancery Holtzclaw, Thomas and Smith families were on Dick's River also. 3-28-1781 Surveyed for Zachariah Smith acres in Lincoln Co. on waters of Dick River  880 acres-- 400 acres as certificate for settlement crossing Harrods Run to John Bowmans' line to Adam Fisher's line to James Harrod corner -- Warrant 147 Grant # 111 and 112 for above acreage GB 1 page 638 Sept 1-1782 paid 192 pounds CERTIFICATE BOOK OF THE VIRGINIA LAND COMMISSION June 21, 1780 Book 1 page 76 Lincoln Co, KY # 728 Michael Thomas enters 400 acres right of settlement  lying on the south side of Dick's River adjoining George Teator to include his improvement (originally issued Kentucky Co., VA). Michael paid 400 pounds on June 27, 1780 for his preemption warrant of 1000 acres Land Entry 8 Feb 1780 Jacob Holtzclaw enters 400 acres.  Survey 27 July 1781. Granted 1 Dec 1782 to Jacob Holzclaw by Benjamin Harrison, Gov of VA. Grant Book G page 299 100 acres of this land was sold to Jacob Holzclaw, Jr. on 22 Apr 1794.        Preemption Warrant #: 146  Name: Holtsclaw, Jacob     County: Kentucky Type #1: Settlement     Acreage #1: 400 Type #2: Preemption     Acreage #2: 1000 Location/Watercourse: north side of Dicks River     Assignee #1: Fishback, Jacob paid 400 pounds on 3-15-1780 for the 1000 acres preemptive claim of Jacob Holtsclaw    Issue Date: 1/28/1780     Authorized: VA 0030.0; VA 0031.0; VA 0042.0; VA 0139.0; VA 0306.0 Preemption Warrant #146 included on Library of Virginia microfilm Thanks for this information.  I don't believe this John Kemper ca 1822 is the same John Kemper [probably Sr.] of Dicks River area of Garrard Co., KY who is my ancestor.

Hi Sarge Thanks but when I followed instructions The menu items under "Tree Pages" did not include "Share your tree" and after I clicked on "Tree Settings" the "export tree" was not on the screen. Any ideas? Sandy On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:43 AM, George W. Durman < GermannaResearch@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi Suzee, > > In case some of you don't know, you can download a GEDCOM from the Tree and > import it into your computer database program. > > Sarge > > >

The following will be of interest to those who knew Dot White either personally or via this list. I her death notice cuts and pastes. For many years, she and I enjoyed a tremendous correspondence, genealogical and many other subjects. Cary R.I.P. This is the copy of the notice published in The Richmond Times-Dispatch: Dorothy Lee Clontz White departed this life September 14, 2011 in peaceful anticipation at her home. She was preceded in death by her parents, Robert Luther Clontz and Minnie Odessa Beckham Clontz of Charlotte, NC and her former husband, Robert Haywood White. Her two sons, Robert Edward White of Powder Springs, GA and Donald Haywood White of Henrico, VA cherish her memory along with daughter-in-law Martha White, two grandchildren, Jaime and Ashley, and one great-grandchild, Asher, and a host of cousins and nieces, other relatives, and friends. Dorothy served the home front during World War II as an operator with Southern Bell in Charleston, SC and Charlotte, NC. Throughout her long and productive life, she worked with churches and groups such as the American Association of Retired Persons, where she served as Florida manager of the AARP-VOTE project. Dorothy was a dedicated and tireless genealogist and a valued member of the Chancellor Wythe Chapter, Daughters of the American Revolution. A memorial service for Dorothy will be led by the Rev. April Greenwood, Vicar at Varina Episcopal Church, 2385 Mill Road, Henrico, VA 23231 on Wednesday evening, September 21, beginning at 6:30 P.M. Those attending are asked to consider donating a non-perishable food item to the Food Pantry ministry of Varina Episcopal Church for distribution to the community. Dorothy will be interred with her former husband later at the Salisbury, NC national cemetery.

"Craig Kilby" wrote Sarge, Agreed, Same goes for your five trailers here. They get repeated with everything--and if you don't snip them, then repeated twice, and so on..." The lack of the common courtesy of snipping is causing me to basically automatically delete without reading the "new"???? info being posted. Sarge had a great idea, but I now see why lots of great "lists" went dormant. I now find myself wearing out the delete button without reading anything. Those who are active in the "ancestry tree" should be reviewing the material others are adding and not cluttering other folks delete box! Folks get witht the program or get out of it! Cary

Holtzclaw, Thomas and Smith families were on Dick's River also. 3-28-1781 Surveyed for Zachariah Smith acres in Lincoln Co. on waters of Dick River 880 acres-- 400 acres as certificate for settlement crossing Harrods Run to John Bowmans' line to Adam Fisher's line to James Harrod corner -- Warrant 147 Grant # 111 and 112 for above acreage GB 1 page 638 Sept 1-1782 paid 192 pounds CERTIFICATE BOOK OF THE VIRGINIA LAND COMMISSION June 21, 1780 Book 1 page 76 Lincoln Co, KY # 728 Michael Thomas enters 400 acres right of settlement lying on the south side of Dick's River adjoining George Teator to include his improvement (originally issued Kentucky Co., VA). Michael paid 400 pounds on June 27, 1780 for his preemption warrant of 1000 acres Land Entry 8 Feb 1780 Jacob Holtzclaw enters 400 acres. Survey 27 July 1781. Granted 1 Dec 1782 to Jacob Holzclaw by Benjamin Harrison, Gov of VA. Grant Book G page 299 100 acres of this land was sold to Jacob Holzclaw, Jr. on 22 Apr 1794. Preemption Warrant #: 146 Name: Holtsclaw, Jacob County: Kentucky Type #1: Settlement Acreage #1: 400 Type #2: Preemption Acreage #2: 1000 Location/Watercourse: north side of Dicks River Assignee #1: Fishback, Jacob paid 400 pounds on 3-15-1780 for the 1000 acres preemptive claim of Jacob Holtsclaw Issue Date: 1/28/1780 Authorized: VA 0030.0; VA 0031.0; VA 0042.0; VA 0139.0; VA 0306.0 Preemption Warrant #146 included on Library of Virginia microfilm Thanks for this information. I don't believe this John Kemper ca 1822 is the same John Kemper [probably Sr.] of Dicks River area of Garrard Co., KY who is my ancestor.