guess you all might want to raise your local property taxes, because at the end of the, none of this is free. On Oct 2, 2011, at 9:37 PM, cookerlp@aol.com wrote: > > Unfortunately my local library just cut off the home access to Heritage Quest as of August 18, 2011 and is now in house only because of budget cuts. I used it for about 8 years, so I guess I got my moneys worth...Sure do miss it. > > Heritage Quest > Most local libraries have Heritage Quest which you can use from home at no > charge (as long as you have a library card.) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Unfortunatly my local library just cut off the home access to Heritage Quest as of August 18, 2011 and is now in house only because of budget cuts. I used it for about 8 years, so I guess I got my moneys worth...Sure do miss it. Heritage Quest Most local libraries have Heritage Quest which you can use from home at no charge (as long as you have a library card.)

Thanks for the info about Heritage Quest. I have a library card so I will ask them how to get to Heritage Quest. Thanks again, Harriet</HTML>

Would SOMEBODY please either change the subject line of this thread to the REASOR family... OR... Answer my original question was "how do I create a new source citation on ancestry.com?" Craig On Oct 2, 2011, at 2:12 AM, George W. Durman wrote: > > Hi Ellenor, > > Well, I'm not connected to the REASOR family, but when I see an obit locally that looks like it could be a Germanna descendant, I go online and try to connect the local family. > > You may not believe it, considering that I'm not even related, but I spent the better part of a week connecting the local REASOR family to Germanna. What a trip! I finally made the connection, but for what purpose?! Maybe someday someone in the local family will do a search for his/her ancestry and see what I dug up. Not wanting to intrude on the family's privacy, I'm not going to contact any survivors and let them know I've connected them all the way back to Germany. It was just something I did as an exercise in trying to figure out how the "shared" databases at Ancestry work. Not an easy thing. > > Yes, would love to have anything additional you have to add to that family. > > Sarge > > At 9/30/2011 08:02 AM Friday, Ellenor Jo Flint wrote: > *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >> George, >> >> >> So it is you who been adding the RAZOR/REASOR info on Ancestry. Naoma Catherine Reasor was my maternal GrGrandmother. Would love to know where we connect. Contact me privately if you care to share. gritzmom@aol.com. >> >> >> Ellenor > **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** > > Germanna Database at Ancestry: > http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/28427876/recent?o_iid=41125&o_lid=41125&o_sch=Web+Property > > My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna > > My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: > http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html > > ******** > Hear Bill Barker from Colonial Williamsburg speak on Thomas Jefferson and slavery at Graves Mountain Lodge, Madison County, Virginia October 1, 2011. For information contact: www.germannacolonies.org > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANS-VA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mine works with my library card which lets you pick a password.

George, that is a great illustration. We never know who will get the spark in genealogy, and how much our generation's work will mean to them. On Oct 2, 2011, at 2:12 AM, "George W. Durman" <GermannaResearch@comcast.net> wrote: Hi Ellenor, Well, I'm not connected to the REASOR family, but when I see an obit locally that looks like it could be a Germanna descendant, I go online and try to connect the local family. You may not believe it, considering that I'm not even related, but I spent the better part of a week connecting the local REASOR family to Germanna. What a trip! I finally made the connection, but for what purpose?! Maybe someday someone in the local family will do a search for his/her ancestry and see what I dug up. Not wanting to intrude on the family's privacy, I'm not going to contact any survivors and let them know I've connected them all the way back to Germany. It was just something I did as an exercise in trying to figure out how the "shared" databases at Ancestry work. Not an easy thing. Yes, would love to have anything additional you have to add to that family. Sarge At 9/30/2011 08:02 AM Friday, Ellenor Jo Flint wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* George, So it is you who been adding the RAZOR/REASOR info on Ancestry. Naoma Catherine Reasor was my maternal GrGrandmother. Would love to know where we connect. Contact me privately if you care to share. gritzmom@aol.com. Ellenor **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Germanna Database at Ancestry: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/28427876/recent?o_iid=41125&o_lid=41125&o_sch=Web+Property My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html ******** Hear Bill Barker from Colonial Williamsburg speak on Thomas Jefferson and slavery at Graves Mountain Lodge, Madison County, Virginia October 1, 2011. For information contact: www.germannacolonies.org ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANS-VA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Rock, Yes, George Adam RAUSER, Sr., is the one to whom I traced back the local family in Knoxville, TN. I really have nothing to share other than what I have found on the Internet, Census Records, Marriage Records, etc. The surname of the original RÄUSER immigrant has been found in so many variations that it's a wonder that anyone can trace their ancestry back to him. Talked to my mother in Sweetwater, TN, last week and her new neighbor is a RACER! Going to talk with those neighbors and see if they are of RÄUSER descent. Sarge At 9/30/2011 03:45 PM Friday, Rock Racer wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >George, > >I'm curious about your comments "I've been working on a REASOR family here >in Knoxville, TN, trying to tie them in to the Germanna >RÄUSER/RAISER/RAZOR/RASER/REASOR/etc. and .......(BTW, I finally was able to >connect the Knoxville, TN, REASOR families back to Culpeper Co. and to >RÄUSER.)". > >George Adam Rauser was my 5th ggrandfather and lived for about 30 years in >Culpeper County. I'm wondering if >he is the "Culpeper Rauser" that you found related to the REASOR >line?? My RACER/RASOR tree is found at >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=rockracer1&id=I0603 >. If you're willing to share, I'll add to my tree and personal store of >knowledge as well. > >Best regards, > >E. L. "Rock" Racer > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "George W. Durman" <GermannaResearch@comcast.net> >To: <germans-va@rootsweb.com>; <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 2:29 AM >Subject: Re: [GERMANS-VA] Creating new Citations on ancestry tree > > > >Craig, welcome to the real world of Ancestry. The programmers who set up >this "shared database" thing had their heads so far up their anuses it's >surprising ANYTHING in our original databases gets transferred over. > >Source citations end up somewhere in the "shared databases", sometimes in >Notes, sometimes when you click "Notes", sometimes when you click "Facts and >Sources", and sometimes when you click "Comments". > >No, I don't know the trick to enter a source citation and be able to use it >again for other people. > >As to the original "NOTES", I'll use the Notes I entered for myself in my >database. When I go to myself in the "shared database", I can click on >"View Notes" and see "most" of what I originally entered. I then can click >on "Facts and Sources" and I see several "Unsourced Citations". I can click >on one of those "Unsourced Citations" and then see what I originally had in >my database for that event. > >I "think" there are several more places where our Notes and Source Citations >show up in the Ancestry Shared Database, but, like you, the avenue to get to >them is so convoluted I can't remember how to get to all of them. > >One word of caution about those who have been "invited" and those who have >"Responded". If the "invitees" log on and use a different email address, >user name, and nickname, the "invitee" list will still have them as "Has not >responded to invite". > >I've been working on a REASOR family here in Knoxville, TN, trying to tie >them in to the Germanna RÄUSER/RAISER/RAZOR/RASER/REASOR/etc. and have >become so frustrated that I thought of just committing suicide and saying to >Hell with Ancestry. The way Ancestry has set up their "shared databases" >for editing should be a lesson to programmers on "what not to do". (BTW, I >finally was able to connect the Knoxville, TN, REASOR families back to >Culpeper Co. and to RÄUSER.) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GERMANS-VA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >******** >Hear Bill Barker from Colonial Williamsburg speak on Thomas Jefferson and slavery at Graves Mountain Lodge, Madison County, Virginia October 1, 2011. For information contact: www.germannacolonies.org > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANS-VA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Germanna Database at Ancestry: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/28427876/recent?o_iid=41125&o_lid=41125&o_sch=Web+Property My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html

Hi Lisa, I said many years ago that I believed that anyone doing transcriptions of Census Records (or any other records, for that matter) at Ancestry should be familiar with the area for which they were doing transcriptions, know, generally, the historical surnames of that area, and have enough intelligence to do the job. Evidently, those suggestions have never been followed by Ancestry. What really galls me is that transcribers will enter surnames for one family correctly, then, for the very next family with the same surname, enter an entirely different spelling! Go figure! Don't get me started on Ancestry. They have an agenda, and it's not all about "sealing" everyone. It's also about profits/income. Sarge At 9/30/2011 08:47 AM Friday, Lisa deGruyter wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >"someone mentioned that she had heard that Ancestry had earlier "farmed >out" the transcriptions of Census Records to INDIA! I don't doubt it for >a moment! Looking at the glaring errors in transcriptions, I don't >believe that an American could have made such mistakes." > >I believe it - the errors in the LDS transcriptions are rampant. Having >done a little volunteer transcribing for LDS, I think that errors are >inevitable unless the transcriber is familiar with all the names in the >area being transcribed, and even then likely if you try to get up any >speed. The LVA index entries for the patents and grants regularly have >obvious transcription errors, some of which don't even require knowledge >of the area to spot, they're just sloppy like and 'a' for an obvious >'o'; I don't know who did them, but suspect it was not outsourced overseas. > >BTW, Craig, I'm a William Ball descendant, too - twice, through two sons >of Edward II and Sarah Owen, whose joint descendant married a South >Branch German in central West Virginia. > >Lisa >==== >Lisa deGruyter >Clarksburg, West Virginia >http://ldeg.wordpress.com > > > >******** >Hear Bill Barker from Colonial Williamsburg speak on Thomas Jefferson and slavery at Graves Mountain Lodge, Madison County, Virginia October 1, 2011. For information contact: www.germannacolonies.org > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANS-VA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Germanna Database at Ancestry: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/28427876/recent?o_iid=41125&o_lid=41125&o_sch=Web+Property My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html

Hi Ellenor, Well, I'm not connected to the REASOR family, but when I see an obit locally that looks like it could be a Germanna descendant, I go online and try to connect the local family. You may not believe it, considering that I'm not even related, but I spent the better part of a week connecting the local REASOR family to Germanna. What a trip! I finally made the connection, but for what purpose?! Maybe someday someone in the local family will do a search for his/her ancestry and see what I dug up. Not wanting to intrude on the family's privacy, I'm not going to contact any survivors and let them know I've connected them all the way back to Germany. It was just something I did as an exercise in trying to figure out how the "shared" databases at Ancestry work. Not an easy thing. Yes, would love to have anything additional you have to add to that family. Sarge At 9/30/2011 08:02 AM Friday, Ellenor Jo Flint wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >George, > > >So it is you who been adding the RAZOR/REASOR info on Ancestry. Naoma Catherine Reasor was my maternal GrGrandmother. Would love to know where we connect. Contact me privately if you care to share. gritzmom@aol.com. > > >Ellenor **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Germanna Database at Ancestry: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/28427876/recent?o_iid=41125&o_lid=41125&o_sch=Web+Property My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html

Most local libraries have Heritage Quest which you can use from home at no charge (as long as you have a library card.) On Oct 1, 2011, at 9:11 PM, HMToothman@wmconnect.com wrote: > I had at one time a Username and Password for Heritage Quest. I also had a > number but I can't find the info. Does anyone have info on getting online > at Heritage Quest? > Harriet</HTML> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had at one time a Username and Password for Heritage Quest. I also had a number but I can't find the info. Does anyone have info on getting online at Heritage Quest? Harriet</HTML>

If you don't know about this event at Salubria, you might want to consider attending, it should be very informative: The Germanna Foundation, the Virginia Department of Historic Resources, and Preservation Virginia are pleased to present a Historic Masonry Restoration Symposium at the circa 1756 Salubria Manor on Saturday, October 15 from 9:30 am to 4:00 pm. This event will be of particular interest to owners of historic masonry buildings that suffered damage from the August 23, 2011 Mineral Earthquake, or from other natural causes. Home owners, general contractors, building managers, masons, architectural historians, planners, students of cultural history and all those who admire fine historic brickwork will be captivated by this insightful educational event. Salubria, donated by the Grayson family to the Germanna Foundation a decade ago, is located on Route 3, seven miles east of Culpeper, VA. The symposium will focus on the most suitable restoration techniques to repair the recent earthquake damage to the historic masonry of Salubria. Hands-on demonstrations of several masonry repair techniques will be led by Jimmy Price and Jeffrey Price of Price Masonry, Inc. and Virginia Lime Works, Madison Heights, VA. Also contributing their expertise in the sessions are Tim Winther of Crest Hill Stoneworks, WV, and Jason Whitehead, Custom Brickmaker, from Colonial Williamsburg Foundation. Master craftsman and noted Virginia building historian Gordon Lohr will demonstrate wood planing techniques and discuss details of the upcoming restoration work on the Georgian-era windows of Salubria. The facilitator for the symposium is Doug Harnsberger, AIA, principal at Legacy Architecture, LLC and architect of the Germanna Foundation's Brawdus Martin Germanna Visitor Center. The symposium topics include: An introduction to "The Lime Cycle" and authentic 18th century Virginia brick masonry techniques The variety of lime mortars, putties, stuccoes and paints Demonstrations of lime slaking Stress crack repair with casein mortar injection Broken brick replacement Repointing and rebuilding of the ruptured chimney stacks Custom replica brick manufacturing Historic repointing demonstrations, as well as finish dressings for new jointwork Critical fall weather protection for curing lime mortar. The symposium fee is $20.00. Lunch will be provided. To register for the symposium, you can do so by online by clicking here, or you can call the Germanna Foundation at 540-423-1700. Preregistration is encouraged as seating is limited. Salubria's twin 19 feet high chimneys suffered extensive damage during the earthquake. The tremors also created several significant stress cracks in the manor house's second floor walls. The Germanna Foundation has engaged Virginia Lime Works and Price Masonry to conduct the repairs and stabilization as they employ "the most authentic historic methodology being practiced today in the lime-mortar-and-handmade-brick sector of the profession." The firms are well known for their previous work at James Madison's Montpelier, Thomas Jefferson's Poplar Forest, and the White House. The Germanna Foundation gratefully acknowledges our event sponsor Hitt Contracting, Inc. If you would like more information about sponsoring the symposium or supporting the work of the Germanna Foundation, please call Karen Quanbeck, Executive Director, at 540-423-1700 or email Karen Barb Price

Just working in KY land records and wondered -- was Jacob Holtzclaw the only one who went to KY early enough to get a warrant by planting corn by 1774. I know that he was married to a daughter of John Thomas and that her uncle, Michael Thomas (as did his son, Henry), got a KY warrant also. Did Jacob go because his Holtzclaw relatives went or because the Thomas family went. He was the only son in law of John Thomas that qualified. Two of Anna Magdalena Thomas Smith sons qualified also -- Zacharias and Adam. Still checking on everyone else. Take care. Marilyn

Added the settlement patent of Abraham Thomas in Monongohela Co., /Kentucky Co., VA

Apparently I cannot send all the files through to rootsweb - please do email me if you are interested, I will send directly, which I did to a House cousin just now, all fine. --- On Fri, 9/30/11, avis walker <awalker719@yahoo.com> wrote: From: avis walker <awalker719@yahoo.com> Subject: Little Cemetary with Joel Blankenbaker & wife,Susanna House near Renssalaer IN. To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, September 30, 2011, 1:44 PM Hi, I am sending along this information on behalf of Von Blankenbaker, who is spearheading the project of restoring the Harris Family Cemetary in the cornfield with which it is surrounded. Many of the stones therein were vandalized over the years and are not set on their bases. The headstones of our relatives: Joel Blankenbaker and Suzanna House are very much legible still, but are broken. I myself 'discovered' the plot some years ago with my son Nick. We were led there by a Thornton Cousin, Genevieve Williamson, saying that they were buried in their daughter's husband's farm cemetary.  It is found when the corn is up by looking for the tree that marks the center of the cemetary. We had quite an adventure that day. It is listed now on the Newton County Indiana map as Harris Cemetary. When Von originally set out to get this resurected, the county was involved, but the Indiana State rules say that unless the land belongs to the county, no upkeep nor restoration can be paid for with public funds. Since the farmer is not willing to sell the land to the county, that is no longer an option. The farmer did agree however to allow access to family and to allow restoration work to be completed.  The original contact for the county project restoration priced the work at about $2000 with some of the exploration and marking of the stones to be acomplished by outside parties (aka relatives). We are set to do just that later in October once the harvest is in. I agreed to come down to assist - sounds like fun! I have attached some of the information that Von forwarded to me, (if it doesn't not come through with this email, email me at awalker719@yahoo.com, I will send to you) he has asked that I share with any cousins of House/Blankenbaker that I know in the hopes any of us can help financially as well, since he and his immediate family are bearing the cost to date. Von has also done an abreviated genealogy report on them, going forward in time, but not backward - Joel was born in Virginia, and is a direct to Germanna - if you wish more information on his lineage, I can provide - but I would believe most everyone connected to him knows who he and his family are....please look through the information...this is an opportunity to do something positive in our genealogy work. All the best - Avis Walker - my great grandmother was Joel's daughter, Louisa Mildred Blankenbaker married to George R. Thornton.

Hey George and the rest of y'all. Only one thing I see in favor or working to put data together at Ancestry. At least folks are communicating again on this list. Communication: that is what I enjoy about these lists. However, I've never known the pleasure of downloading a Gencom, nor importing into my computer database program. No, I've never done such. I do use Word to save all my material in manuscript form acording to standards of dissertation writing. So easy to do now. My little ole dissertaintion used probably several trees as about 10,000 sheets were required as not erasures required. Anyhow, I do wish you all well in your endeavor to share. I guess my invite needs to be revoked as I have not accepted. After reading all the discussions, I have decided to continue on my old way. The following is what sometimes is most frustrating to me. I'll be happy to discuss Clore and Walck and Volck and Utz on line. Sure wish some others would take time to try to understand the early church records of Obergimpern. It is tedious work but well rewarding. I understand that there is an expert on the church records in Obergimpern. He was present at the meal at the Wagenbach forester's "hut", but no time to converse! This was on the last trip I took. Evidently, miscommunication or a hurry to get to an organ recital. Obergimpern was where the Wagenbachers did their trading. In fact in the early 1700's one of Volck men married a younger daughter of the baron of Obergimpern! She was of the Catholic faith, but I never found a conversion of the Volch. Records go back into the 1500s in the church books. Hard hoeing, but rewarding. I just gave out as the Volcks are not my kin. But the Hilarius/Galarius/Klar/[Clore] of Obergimpern just probably are. Obergimpern and Gemmingen are only about 10 miles apart. I have not given up on giving the Volck ladies who came as unmarried step-daughters of --was it the Utz fellow?-- Their husbands' large land holders had adjoining property in what I believe is Madison County. All told it is several square miles, if memory serves me. Has any "tour" ever made it there???? Cary

Craig, welcome to the real world of Ancestry. The programmers who set up this "shared database" thing had their heads so far up their anuses it's surprising ANYTHING in our original databases gets transferred over. Source citations end up somewhere in the "shared databases", sometimes in Notes, sometimes when you click "Notes", sometimes when you click "Facts and Sources", and sometimes when you click "Comments". No, I don't know the trick to enter a source citation and be able to use it again for other people. As to the original "NOTES", I'll use the Notes I entered for myself in my database. When I go to myself in the "shared database", I can click on "View Notes" and see "most" of what I originally entered. I then can click on "Facts and Sources" and I see several "Unsourced Citations". I can click on one of those "Unsourced Citations" and then see what I originally had in my database for that event. I "think" there are several more places where our Notes and Source Citations show up in the Ancestry Shared Database, but, like you, the avenue to get to them is so convoluted I can't remember how to get to all of them. One word of caution about those who have been "invited" and those who have "Responded". If the "invitees" log on and use a different email address, user name, and nickname, the "invitee" list will still have them as "Has not responded to invite". I've been working on a REASOR family here in Knoxville, TN, trying to tie them in to the Germanna RÄUSER/RAISER/RAZOR/RASER/REASOR/etc. and have become so frustrated that I thought of just committing suicide and saying to Hell with Ancestry. The way Ancestry has set up their "shared databases" for editing should be a lesson to programmers on "what not to do". (BTW, I finally was able to connect the Knoxville, TN, REASOR families back to Culpeper Co. and to RÄUSER.) What really frustrates me is that when I use Ancestry's Census Records, type in a name, date, place that I "know" is valid, I get a "search not found"! These are Census Records I have accessed before and that I know are valid. Sometimes I can search for a child in the family and find what I'm looking for. As a matter of info, at our East TN Germanna Reunion earlier this month, someone mentioned that she had heard that Ancestry had earlier "farmed out" the transcriptions of Census Records to INDIA! I don't doubt it for a moment! Looking at the glaring errors in transcriptions, I don't believe that an American could have made such mistakes. Anyway, just bite the bullet, try to work around the obvious shortcomings of Ancestry's "shared databases/trees" and do the best you can. At least we DO have a place for a common database/tree now, and, with all Ancestry's shortcomings, can add to the databases/trees. Sarge At 9/29/2011 02:02 AM Thursday, Craig Kilby wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Hi all, > >I need some help. Following George's excellent example of uploading a somewhat private tree to ancestry.com and inviting others in to help edit, a group of us did just that and it is called Northern Neck of Virginia Families. > >The "base" data base was my BALL FAMILY file and that more or less successfully uploaded. (I am not the administrator, but I gave the information to get it started). We also created a face book page to compliment the rootsweb list. Out of 157 list members, only 22 have joined the fb page and even fewer still have asked to be invited to the ancestry list. Confusion is rampant. > >ANYWAY, to my question. When my data base was uploaded none of the source citations (except their #) went through. > >The home person is William-1 Ball, emigrant. I entered two books as source citations for certain events in his life. I thought once I did that I would never have to do it again. > >Wrong. Next person in the family, I wanted to use the same source I had just created. The drop down menu was BLANK. > >How do I enter a source citation once and for and never have to to it again? Does anyone know the trick to this? > >ALSO--all of the data that had been in the "NOTES" section of the original database are so far buried in this ancestry database that I can't even remember how I stumbled across one of them. Any ideas on that? > >Craig Kilby **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Germanna Database at Ancestry: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/28427876/recent?o_iid=41125&o_lid=41125&o_sch=Web+Property My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html

Good morning, I am trying to add some notes to Johannes Thomas, his children and grandchildren. Can anyone add any additions, corrections or deletions needed to these events before i post them on his page. How do we know that his 2nd wife was a Weaver? and that they married in 1791 Census: 1810, Jefferson Co., KY Hannah Blankenbkaer over age 45 Church Membership: 1754,Culpeper Co., VA - Jacob/Barbara Blankenbaker appear in Hebron church birth registry (what event was being referenced?) County records 1: October22, 1776, Culpeper Co., VA signed a petition as a member of German congregationto Delegates asking "to be exempt from Parochial charges except to supportour own church" County records 2: Bet. 1770- 1779, Culpeper Co., VA - signed legislative petitions in the 1770's on recordin the Virginia State Library, presumed to have been Minutemen. County records 3: April 26,1781, Culpeper Co., VA Named as executor in the will of ChristopherBlankenbaker (what relationship) DAR soldiers and patriots: Virginia "died Jan. 2, 1801 KY- married # 3 HannahWeaver- Patriotic Service"/Virginia ( I assume that she was # 2.- who were here parents? Any other Weaver/Thomas connections) Division of Land/Estate:January 1822, Jefferson Co., KY Divided 9 slaves and certain money betweenAmbrose/Elizabeth Garriot; Samuel, heirs of Henry Jacob (deceased), David,Nicholas, Thomas, Jeremiah, Philemon, John Blankenbaker; and Ambrose/Mary TylerWB 1 pg 95 Land Purchase 1: August 10,1743, Orange Co., VA Deeded 100 and 65 acres of land "where I now liveafter the decease of my loving wife, Appellonia" in the will of hisfather, John Nicholas Blankenbaker WB 1 pg 284 Land Purchase 2: November20, 1760, Culpeper Co. VA Gift from John Thomas (father in law) 90 acres DB Cpg 441 (when was this sold and to whom and where recorded) Land Sale: 1763, CulpeperCo., VA Jacob/Mary Barbara Blankenbaker sold 156 acres patented by NicholasBlankenbeker on June 24, 1726, and by him devised to his son Jacob (given inNicholas' will as 165 acres) (who did they sell this land to and where is it recorded) Tax records 1: 1764,Culpeper Co. VA Rent rolls Tax records 2: 1800, Jefferson County, Kentucky Will Written: January 02,1801, Jefferson County, Kentucky -- Verbal will to be probated whenall the children were of age.

Added to Johannes Thoma page on the Germanna Colony Tree. Map created showing some of the places that the descendants of Johannes and Anna Maria Blankenbaker Thoma migrated from Culpeper Co., VA. The family of Hans/John took the southern route into NC, GA, TN, AL and MS and his brother Michael took the more northern route into PA, KY, OH and IN. They probably avoided the mountains and used the waterways esp. on the northern route.

See color photos at http://vwg-online.com/?p=2861 Germanna Foundation’s Annual Weekend Mixes VA Wine With A Little History Virginia Wine Gazette, September 8, 2011 “The past is not the property of historians; it is a public possession. It sustains the whole society, which always needs the identity that only the past can give,” notes Dr. Walter Havighurst. And learning about one’s past—and the sense of identity that it brings—is one of the driving forces behind the Germanna Foundation. If those roots stem from Germany, then the Germanna Foundation, with a beautiful visitor center in Orange County, offers a boatload of information about early 18th century immigrants who helped sprout the spirit of freedom in America and played an instrumental role in developing Virginia when the colony was still under British rule. “The past is not the property of historians; it is a public possession. It sustains the whole society, which always needs the identity that only the past can give.” The Memorial Foundation of the Germanna Colonies in Virginia, Inc. (known as the Germanna Foundation), is a 501c (3) nonprofit founded in 1956 by descendants of two German colonies that came to Virginia in 1714 and 1717. And, since 1949, German descendants have come together from around the globe to celebrate their heritage and the contributions their ancestors made to the building of America. Rogers Ford Winery This year, the annual weekend was July 15-17, with the reunion dinner and auction held in Remington at the Inn at Kelly’s Ford. A trip to a local winery was also on the agenda. Weekends typically consist of traveling to historic homes, sites, cemeteries and churches and learning how to conduct research in special conference sessions. There are special dinners, a children’s camp at a historic 18th century home called Salubria, which is owned by the foundation and is located in Culpeper County. The final evening culminates in a banquet and lively auction on Saturday night with generous heapings of warm fellowship and friendly “gemütlichkeit.” On July 15, the group hopped on a bus and toured Rogers Ford Farm Winery in Sumerduck, in Fauquier County, that is on property once owned by Kemper, one of the first German immigrants who came to Virginia in 1714. The winery not only has Germanna roots from the Kemper family, but also has Civil War drama as an added layer. A relative of Confederate General, and 37th Governor of Virginia, James Lawson Kemper owned the property. One of the early larger scale cavalry battles in the state was the Battle of Kelly’s Ford, which erupted on March 17, 1863. It set the stage for the June 9, 1863, Battle of Brandy Station, which is considered to be the most severe cavalry fight of the entire war, as well as the largest to ever take place on American soil. Carlotta Puckett, who now owns the winery with her husband, organized the tour and luncheon. Visitors saw Kemper’s Dam on the Rappahannock River between Fredericksburg and Kelly’s Ford, and ate lunch by the flowing water. The group had a chance to reflect how the Kempers must have felt as they toiled and tried to acclimate to a new land. Puckett’s son and daughter-in-law, John and Adriana Puckett, now own the circa 1825 Kemper house on the vineyard’s property overlooking the beautiful Rappahannock River. Gerald Kemper traveled from Georgia to attend the weekend’s events. A descendent of the Kempers, he said, “My relative, [James] Lawson Kemper, was the governor of Virginia after the War Between the States, which was sometimes called the ‘Recent Unpleasantness.’” Historian Dr. Katharine Brown of Staunton — who is a Rector descendant of the 1714 group — said, “We enjoyed a lovely time; we got a wonderful tour of the vineyard and tasted some of their great wines.” Reenactment featured Germmana Foundation's 1860s "Old Virginia" Remembrance Banquet and Auction at the Inn at Kelly's Ford. Photo by Heidi Baumstark Paula Johnson, a Germanna trustee, explained there were two main waves of Germans that came to Virginia via London under British Queen Anne’s rule. Lt. Gov. Alexander Spotswood (circa 1676-1740) selected the name, “Germanna,” which reflected the Germans who sailed the Atlantic waters and Queen Anne who ruled during the time of the first 1714 settlement. This year’s annual Germanna reunion had a Civil War theme to bring back “Old Virginia” in the 1860s and to inspire guests to remember that Spotswood’s descendant was Confederate General Robert E. Lee and that many descendants served both the Union and Confederacy, including those enlisted in the Black Horse Cavalry, Little Forks Rangers and Mosby’s Rangers. Reenactors portraying the 4th Virginia Cavalry (Black Horse Cavalry) dazzled the crowd with their glittering sabers and gallant rides on the inn’s green lawn. On the evening of July 16, the reunion continued with a pageantry of horses, strolling fiddlers and ladies in Civil War period dresses. Reenactors portraying the 4th Virginia Cavalry (Black Horse Cavalry) dazzled the crowd with their glittering sabers and gallant rides on the inn’s green lawn. Other outdoor activities included an artillery drill and firing demonstration with Kelly’s Ford’s 12-pound Napoleon cannon, period music by Evergreen Shade and South Fork and reenactors portraying Colonel and Mrs. John Singleton Mosby and Belle Boyd, one of the Confederacy’s most notorious spies. Inside the hall at the inn, guests were able to admire an antique gun collection, an authentic ladies’ fan display and participate in a quilt raffle and silent and live auction. Puckett poured more wine tastings at the dinner for guests. A little history The first shipload of Germans arrived in April 1714 from the Siegerland area in Germany (modern-day North Rhine Westphalia) and consisted of 12 families, a total of 42 people. Some family names are: Rector, Hitt, Holtzclaw, Otterbach, Fischback/Fishbach, Weaver and Koontz. They came to work for Spotswood who created Fort Germanna, a pentagon-shaped fort near the Rapidan River constructed with wooden fencing to protect them from Native Americans. Since this first group came from an area in Germany known for iron production, they were instructed to search for iron ore on Spotswood property, so, until December 1718, they worked at mining and quarrying. The site of the Germanna fort is near the grounds of the Brawdus Martin Germanna Visitor Center, which was thoughtfully designed to mimic this early fort. The visitor center is located next to the Germanna Community College’s Locust Grove campus in Orange County. After completing their years of service committed to Spotswood, in 1719, they moved to Germantown in southern Fauquier County and created the county’s first permanent settlement. A deed was signed in 1718 by these early families, granting them land on the Licking Run. The second wave of colonists arrived by ship in 1717 from the agricultural villages in the Kraichgau area of Baden-Württemberg. In 1726, this group moved to land in the Robinson River Valley in present-day Madison County and in 1740 formed Hebron Lutheran Church, the oldest continuously running Lutheran Church in America. Some names from this second group include Amburger, Blankenbaker, Merkle, Fleischmann, Clore, Smith and Weaver. J. Marc Wheat of Arlington is the president of the Germanna Foundation. His ancestors are part of the first group who came in 1714, which consisted of Rev. Henry Haeger, the Fishback family and John Jacob Rector, an elder at the church formed at Fort Germanna. “The base of our members includes descendents, but anyone is welcome to join to support our mission of honoring our historic heritage,” Wheat said. He also highlighted Salubria, the 18th century brick mansion located seven miles east of the town of Culpeper. Built circa mid-1740s, it is the oldest brick house in the county. After Spotswood died in 1740, Reverend John Thompson, rector of Little Fork Church from 1740-1772, pursued his widow, Lady Butler Brayne Spotswood. The pair married on November 9, 1742 and made Salubria, which means “healthful” in Latin, their home. Wheat said top archaeologists are thrilled at the quality of Salubria and have recently discovered it is older than James Madison’s Montpelier in Orange County. Cathi Clore Frost traveled from Oregon to attend the reunion. She is a descendant of Michael Clore (recorded as Hans Michael Klaar in Gemmingen, Baden), who was a vine dresser and came with the second group of immigrants in 1717. Since this second wave of immigrants came from an agricultural background, “We suspect that members of the 1717 group brought grape vines with them,” she said. Danica Junker also attended and is a German exchange student staying with the Wheat family. She said, “It’s so nice to see so many people from all around the country, all with a common bond.” And it’s that common bond that keeps the Germanna Foundation alive, always striving to learn more and protect the rich heritage of German colonists who helped build our nation. The Brawdus Martin Germanna Visitor Center is located at 2062 Germanna Highway in Locust Grove. More information can be found by calling 540-423-1700 or visiting their website at www.germanna.org. Rogers Ford Farm Winery is located at 14672 Rogers Ford Road in Sumerduck. They can be reached at 540-439-3707 and the website is www.rogersfordwine.com. Heidi Baumstark is a part-time reporter for a newspaper covering western Prince William County and parts of Fauquier County, where she specializes in writing history-related articles for the region.