I found this couple in the Germanna tree and wondered what their connection is to Germanna.??These are my 5th great grandparents as follows: Jacob BOWMAN m. Susanna MILLHOUSE Jacob BOWMAN m. Mary SAUFELY Sarah L BOWMAN m. George Hale BILLINGSLEY John M BILLINGSLEY m. Mary MARTIN John T BILLINGSLEY m. Darthula Alice HUNNICUTT (Honeycutt) Herbert W BILLINGSLEY m. Verna K SETTLE (to Little Fork HUFFMAN of Barren Co., KY) Stephen W BILLINGSLEY m. Clara E WALLACE Deborah F BILLINGSLEY Thanks for any information Debby

Hugh Elias BUTTON married Nancy SETTLE, daughter of William.? William married Elizabeth HUFFMAN, daughter of Tillman.? William and Elizabeth are my 4th great grandparents.? I have a lot of info on the SETTLE family. Debby -----Original Message----- From: HFTHusma@aol.com To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 7:31 am Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Hans Henrich Hofmann; Germanna Families (1st & 2nd Colonies) In a message dated 7/25/2008 12:46:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, GermannaResearch@comcast.net writes: Hugh, thanks for the info. I've now found the HOFMANN/HUFFMAN family involved and will be able to add them to the database. After all, they did marry into a couple of families I already have in the database, SETTLE/SETTLES and BUTTON. Sarge, I have a SETTLES connection, but the BUTTON connection is new to me. Would you show me that data? Thanks, Hugh ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 7/25/2008 12:46:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, GermannaResearch@comcast.net writes: Hugh, thanks for the info. I've now found the HOFMANN/HUFFMAN family involved and will be able to add them to the database. After all, they did marry into a couple of families I already have in the database, SETTLE/SETTLES and BUTTON. Sarge, I have a SETTLES connection, but the BUTTON connection is new to me. Would you show me that data? Thanks, Hugh

And may I thank Barb and all the others publicly? Barb's presentation on the Ashland was excellent as were Marc Wheat's presentation on where the Foundation is and where hope to go and some of the VERY EXCITING plans for celebrating our history, as Gemannan descendants as well as pioneers and inhabitants of the Germanna environs; John Blankenbaker's presentation on Tanner research (VERY instructive on looking 'outside the box' and finding ways to gather research data), and Dr. Katherine Brown's excellent presentation on the women of Germanna - what they endured, their probable life issues - so thought-provoking (and a perfect touch of humor!). I was not able to make anything but the seminars - and am thankful could make that. Thanks to all on both the Foundation and the Association leadership groups! It's a lot of labor but so obviously a labor of love for all involved. Kathleen On 7/24/08, RockCatt@aol.com <RockCatt@aol.com> wrote: > > Linda, my friend, you are correct in saying that we are worn out from the > Reunion! I have to say that it was a smashing success and one of > the best > that I have ever attended or worked on! I serve as both a Trustee for the > Foundation and as a Board member on the Association, and Secretary > to both, and I > am very glad to be working with the tireless group of people that serve > with > me. > > We had such a great representation of the First Colony, the Second Colony > and The Little Fork, it was amazing and great to connect to so very many > cousins! > > I will go into more detail later, but I encourage all of you that haven't > attended one of the Reunions to do so. All of the lectures were > videotaped and > I'll find out how you would go about accessing them. > > Barb Price > > > > > In a message dated 7/24/2008 05:05:55 Pacific Daylight Time, > ljohnston@ispmgt.com writes: > > Marc: > > Sorry to hear about the indexing problem. Is there a price available for > the book and the book and CD combo? I would like to order in advance, so > I > can get my hands on that material. If John wrote it, I have no doubt that > it will be an excellent addition to my research materials. Please include > the amount for shipping, too. > > I truly appreciate the idea of keeping the CD available, for those who > could > not attend the reunion. Perhaps, if others would indicate an interest in > whether they would like the CD, along with the book, it would give you > some > idea of how many CDs would have to be made. Then, when the book comes > back > from the printer, they're ready to go in the mail together. > > I haven't seen any postings about the reunion. Would somebody like to > enlighten us as to what happened? Of course, the possibility exists that > a > number of attendees are still travelling or, are worn out from all the > activities. I'm ENVIOUS!!!! > > Linda Johnston > > > Message: 9 > > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:21:15 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Marc Wheat <germanna1714@yahoo.com> > > Subject: [GERMANNA] new book by John Blankenbaker > > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <751781.9418.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > We had problems with the indexing this year, so the book only now at the > > printers and we don't?expect it until later this summer.?We will also > > explore the possibility of keeping the CD in print for those who were > > unable to attend the reunion this year. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kathleen Bowen Simons Falls Church, Virginia IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: Worship. Community. Service. www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' messages!) Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. Simons: http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons

At 7/18/2008 09:02 AM Friday, HFTHusma@aol.com wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >In a message dated 7/18/2008 6:55:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >mseagle246@aol.com writes: > >I've been reluctant to post my question for fear of not doing it quite >right.? I'm pretty new at this.? But recently I came across the fact that I >am >possibly a Germanna descendant.? I've searched the Germanna tree that was >recently posted on Rootsweb and cannot find Hans Henrich Hofmann >_____________ > >Hans Heinrick Hofmann arrived in Philadelphia in 1734 with his bride, Anna >Huettenhen thus he came after the 1st and 2nd Colonies. They joined the >Little Fork Group in northern Culpeper Co., VA. The records show that his >name >was anglisized to Henry HUFFMAN. Tillman was their first child. > >Best regards, Hugh **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Hugh, thanks for the info. I've now found the HOFMANN/HUFFMAN family involved and will be able to add them to the database. After all, they did marry into a couple of families I already have in the database, SETTLE/SETTLES and BUTTON. Thanks again, Sarge

At 7/18/2008 09:02 AM Friday, HFTHusma@aol.com wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >In a message dated 7/18/2008 6:55:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >mseagle246@aol.com writes: > >I've been reluctant to post my question for fear of not doing it quite >right.? I'm pretty new at this.? But recently I came across the fact that I >am >possibly a Germanna descendant.? I've searched the Germanna tree that was >recently posted on Rootsweb and cannot find Hans Henrich Hofmann >_____________ > >Hans Heinrick Hofmann arrived in Philadelphia in 1734 with his bride, Anna >Huettenhen thus he came after the 1st and 2nd Colonies. They joined the >Little Fork Group in northern Culpeper Co., VA. The records show that his >name >was anglisized to Henry HUFFMAN. Tillman was their first child. > >Best regards, Hugh **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Hugh, thanks for the info. I've now found the HOFMANN/HUFFMAN family involved and will be able to add them to the database. After all, they did marry into a couple of families I already have in the database, SETTLE/SETTLES and BUTTON. Thanks again, Sarge

I'm descended from the 1731 cousin. And I've been building a tree for the Pa. and Md. families. My tree is on Ancestry.com, but I haven't uploaded it to any other databases yet. If any of you out there want to see what I've found, please e-mail me at EdWillhide@aol.com. Distant Cousin Ed -----Original Message----- From: john.blankenbaker@comcast.net To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 3:36 am Subject: [GERMANNA] Willheit Sources in America Johann Michael Willheit had a first cousin who came to Pennsylvania in 1731. This cousin's name was Johann Friedrich Willheit. Generally his descendants spell the name as Wilhide et al, favoring the use of a "d" over a "t". -- John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Charles Hartley <hartley@iglou.com> > DNA testing has determined that I am a 66/67 match with a Wilhite > whose 6g grandfather was Johann Michael Willheit, the immigrant. > FTDNA has indicated that there is a 95% likelihood that this Wilhite > and I share a common paternal ancestor within 8 generations. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linda, my friend, you are correct in saying that we are worn out from the Reunion! I have to say that it was a smashing success and one of the best that I have ever attended or worked on! I serve as both a Trustee for the Foundation and as a Board member on the Association, and Secretary to both, and I am very glad to be working with the tireless group of people that serve with me. We had such a great representation of the First Colony, the Second Colony and The Little Fork, it was amazing and great to connect to so very many cousins! I will go into more detail later, but I encourage all of you that haven't attended one of the Reunions to do so. All of the lectures were videotaped and I'll find out how you would go about accessing them. Barb Price In a message dated 7/24/2008 05:05:55 Pacific Daylight Time, ljohnston@ispmgt.com writes: Marc: Sorry to hear about the indexing problem. Is there a price available for the book and the book and CD combo? I would like to order in advance, so I can get my hands on that material. If John wrote it, I have no doubt that it will be an excellent addition to my research materials. Please include the amount for shipping, too. I truly appreciate the idea of keeping the CD available, for those who could not attend the reunion. Perhaps, if others would indicate an interest in whether they would like the CD, along with the book, it would give you some idea of how many CDs would have to be made. Then, when the book comes back from the printer, they're ready to go in the mail together. I haven't seen any postings about the reunion. Would somebody like to enlighten us as to what happened? Of course, the possibility exists that a number of attendees are still travelling or, are worn out from all the activities. I'm ENVIOUS!!!! Linda Johnston > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:21:15 -0700 (PDT) > From: Marc Wheat <germanna1714@yahoo.com> > Subject: [GERMANNA] new book by John Blankenbaker > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <751781.9418.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > We had problems with the indexing this year, so the book only now at the > printers and we don't?expect it until later this summer.?We will also > explore the possibility of keeping the CD in print for those who were > unable to attend the reunion this year. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

As Barb Price has said, the patent referred to below does belong to John Huffman who came with the First Colony. He had about six or seven patents or grants in the Robinson River Valley, the last one for more than 3,500 acres. In spite of the fact there are so many patents and grants, where each generally includes all of the previous patents or grants, they are extremely hard to read. The final grant is plotted in the newest Foundation book, "The Second Germanna Colony and Other Pioneers. It was taken from an issue of Beyond Germanna. John Huffman kept adding land to his original patent as his second wife bore a succession of twelve children, all of whom lived. The George Wood referred to is George Utz, his wife's stepfather. She was Maria Sabina Charlotta Barbara Volck. John Huffman called her Folg in his family Bible (Folg sounds much like Volck, her true name). -- John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Hdanw@aol.com > > JOHN HUFTMAN (or Hustman), 400 acs (N.L.), Spotsylv. Co., in St. George's > Par; on both sides the Robinson Riv., adj. Andrew Kirkcer, on the White Oak Run; > against mouth of the Deep Run; his own; Micall Willhide ; & George Wood; 25 > Aug 1733; , p. 252, 40 Shill. [Patent Book No. 14] > > I suspect he is John Huffman of the second Germanna colony. What are your > thoughts? >

Johann Michael Willheit had a first cousin who came to Pennsylvania in 1731. This cousin's name was Johann Friedrich Willheit. Generally his descendants spell the name as Wilhide et al, favoring the use of a "d" over a "t". -- John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Charles Hartley <hartley@iglou.com> > DNA testing has determined that I am a 66/67 match with a Wilhite > whose 6g grandfather was Johann Michael Willheit, the immigrant. > FTDNA has indicated that there is a 95% likelihood that this Wilhite > and I share a common paternal ancestor within 8 generations.

Marc: Sorry to hear about the indexing problem. Is there a price available for the book and the book and CD combo? I would like to order in advance, so I can get my hands on that material. If John wrote it, I have no doubt that it will be an excellent addition to my research materials. Please include the amount for shipping, too. I truly appreciate the idea of keeping the CD available, for those who could not attend the reunion. Perhaps, if others would indicate an interest in whether they would like the CD, along with the book, it would give you some idea of how many CDs would have to be made. Then, when the book comes back from the printer, they're ready to go in the mail together. I haven't seen any postings about the reunion. Would somebody like to enlighten us as to what happened? Of course, the possibility exists that a number of attendees are still travelling or, are worn out from all the activities. I'm ENVIOUS!!!! Linda Johnston > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:21:15 -0700 (PDT) > From: Marc Wheat <germanna1714@yahoo.com> > Subject: [GERMANNA] new book by John Blankenbaker > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <751781.9418.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > We had problems with the indexing this year, so the book only now at the > printers and we don't?expect it until later this summer.?We will also > explore the possibility of keeping the CD in print for those who were > unable to attend the reunion this year.

This John Hoffman would actually be from the First Colony, he arrived in 1714, but he moved to the Robinson River. His first wife was Anna Catherina Haeger, the daughter of Rev. Henry Haeger and Anna Friesenhagen, with whom he had 5 children. His second wife was Maria Sabina Charlotta Barbara Folg, he married her in July 1729 and they had 12 children. John Hoffman was one of the trustees of the First Colony along with Jacob Holtzclaw and John Fishback. Barb Price In a message dated 7/23/2008 15:04:51 Pacific Daylight Time, Hdanw@aol.com writes: Again While trolling Vol. 3 of Nell Marion Nugent's Cavaliers & Pioneers, 1695-1732, looking for patents for a certain Harris of the area around Hanover Co. in this time period, on the same page (p. 402) as an entry for Christopher Simberman is an entry for JOHN HUFTMAN (or Hustman), 400 acs (N.L.), Spotsylv. Co., in St. George's Par; on both sides the Robinson Riv., adj. Andrew Kirkcer, on the White Oak Run; against mouth of the Deep Run; his own; Micall Willhide ; & George Wood; 25 Aug 1733; , p. 252, 40 Shill. [Patent Book No. 14] I suspect he is John Huffman of the second Germanna colony. What are your thoughts? Although almost all the patent abstracts are on the Library of Virginia website at _http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/land/index.htm_ (http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/land/index.htm) I discovered that once in a while, one of the watercourses, or a neighbor, is omitted from the land description in the LVA abstract. So for me--back to Nell Marion Nugent and later volumes of C&P compiled by Dennis Ray Hudgins and published by the Virginia Genealogical Society in the last several years. One has to keep in mind that the counties kept dividing. This URL may be helpful. _http://www.myvirginiagenealogy.com/va_maps/va_cf.htm_ (http://www.myvirginiagenealogy.com/va_maps/va_cf.htm) E.W.Wallace **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

The order form will be up on www.germanna.org closer to delivery time.  I'm sorry that these are not back from the printer yet.     Marc Wheat --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Clai Bachmann <cbach@dymax.com> wrote: From: Clai Bachmann <cbach@dymax.com> Subject: [GERMANNA] Could I order one of JOhn Blankenburger's books? To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 2:25 PM I would like to order one of John B.'s books. How could I do that? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We had problems with the indexing this year, so the book only now at the printers and we don't expect it until later this summer. We will also explore the possibility of keeping the CD in print for those who were unable to attend the reunion this year. --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Mary Ann Shoemaker <maryshoe@cox.net> wrote: From: Mary Ann Shoemaker <maryshoe@cox.net> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] GERMANNA_COLONIES Digest, Vol 3, Issue 223 To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 9:01 AM I have gotten in on the end of this discussion of the new book so do not have the facts etc. "The Second Germanna Colony and Other Pioneers" by John Blankenbaker. Would appreciate knowing how I may purchase this volume. Do you have to attend the "Reunion" to purchase? I would certainly like to have a copy. My German ancestors are the Snyders who apparently are of the 2nd Germana Colony. John Snyder with sons, Michael, John and Adam. Also have Stiglers but Samuel came from King George Co. before purchasing 400 ac near Piney Mt. in Culpeper Co. Then there is Thomas Brown (d 1786) but.. another story,. However the title has in it "and other Pioneers". That sounds most interesting. Appreciate any info. Thanks Mary Ann Shoemaker germanna_colonies-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > There are two ways to receive the DIGEST Mode for this Mailing List: > > 1) PLAIN TEXT-Plain Text Digests are sent to users with all posts listed in one long email. This is the default when a user subscribes to the Digest Mode. > > 2) MIME-For most users MIME Digests will appear with all posts as individual attachments. If you are receiving in Plain Text and want your Digest in MIME, please write me directly at GERMANNA_COLONIES-admin@rootsweb.com. > > ############### > > When replying to a Digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the Digest from your reply. > > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. That is, if you change the subject, CHANGE the subject line! > > George > List Administrator > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: "The Second Germanna Colony and Other Pioneers" by > JohnBlankenbaker (George W. Durman) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To contact the GERMANNA_COLONIES list administrator, send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GERMANNA_COLONIES mailing list, send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The probability that Christopher Simberman/Simmerman/Simmorman is our Christopher Zimmerman is very high, almost a certainty. -- John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net

DNA testing has determined that I am a 66/67 match with a Wilhite whose 6g grandfather was Johann Michael Willheit, the immigrant. FTDNA has indicated that there is a 95% likelihood that this Wilhite and I share a common paternal ancestor within 8 generations. My problem is that I do not know the identity of my most immediate Wilhite ancestor, so I am working my way from the past forward. Before I can do so, I need to know if Johann Michael Willheit had any siblings who also came to America. Is that information available? I do realize that later descendants of earlier members of this line might have come to America at a later time, but for now I want to concentrate on Johann Michael. Thanks for any help you can offer. Charlie

Trolling through publications is not bad in some cases. Not all Indexes are complete so just a little journey through the book, document or what ever is worth it sometimes. I had a county history from Pa that I bought several years ago and there seemed to be nothing in it for me (from the indexes). But I did page through and find a picture of a bunch of civil war soldiers who were in fact part of a GAR Post. Not in the indexes. And there on the end is my GGGF in his Civil War uniform. So take some time to look... John -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Hdanw@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:41 PM To: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANNA] Zimmerman aka Simberman, etc. While trolling Vol. 3 of Nell Marion Nugent's Cavaliers & Pioneers, 1695-1732, looking for patents for a certain Harris of the area around Hanover Co.

Again While trolling Vol. 3 of Nell Marion Nugent's Cavaliers & Pioneers, 1695-1732, looking for patents for a certain Harris of the area around Hanover Co. in this time period, on the same page (p. 402) as an entry for Christopher Simberman is an entry for JOHN HUFTMAN (or Hustman), 400 acs (N.L.), Spotsylv. Co., in St. George's Par; on both sides the Robinson Riv., adj. Andrew Kirkcer, on the White Oak Run; against mouth of the Deep Run; his own; Micall Willhide ; & George Wood; 25 Aug 1733; , p. 252, 40 Shill. [Patent Book No. 14] I suspect he is John Huffman of the second Germanna colony. What are your thoughts? Although almost all the patent abstracts are on the Library of Virginia website at _http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/land/index.htm_ (http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwehave/land/index.htm) I discovered that once in a while, one of the watercourses, or a neighbor, is omitted from the land description in the LVA abstract. So for me--back to Nell Marion Nugent and later volumes of C&P compiled by Dennis Ray Hudgins and published by the Virginia Genealogical Society in the last several years. One has to keep in mind that the counties kept dividing. This URL may be helpful. _http://www.myvirginiagenealogy.com/va_maps/va_cf.htm_ (http://www.myvirginiagenealogy.com/va_maps/va_cf.htm) E.W.Wallace **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Chris Zimmerman stayed Zimmerman. English spelling was not great in those days. Phonetic translation was common. records reflect different spelling for same man , dependent on education of person doing the writing. I spent 2 years researching my G Granmothers name based upon a phonetic spelling of her maiden name on a death certificate for my Granfather, circa 1919, in Thurmont Maryland.

While trolling Vol. 3 of Nell Marion Nugent's Cavaliers & Pioneers, 1695-1732, looking for patents for a certain Harris of the area around Hanover Co. in this time period, I am running into a Simberman, Christopher. Now, looking in the index under S, I find these listings [without page numbers--that is for you other genealogists] Simberman, Christopher Simmerman, Christopher Simmorman, Christopher There is no listing under Z. Could this be the Germanna colonist Christopher Zimmerman? Research never stops, does it? Only when we are disabled or can no longer see. E.W.Wallace **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)