Hi Sarge, I stumbled upon this while searching for my Scottish ancestors, but this Henry Hoffman (in the 1927 book) may not be the Germanna Henry Hoffman you're looking for. http://www.accessgenealogy.com/surnames.htm --- Free Online Surname Books HOFFMAN GENEALOGY Based on: Ancestors of George Bartlett Hoffman and his wife Emma Teresa Cronk; Compiled by Josephine C. Frost, 1927. <http://www.surnameguide.com/hoffman/index.htm> "... This is definitely a Dutch New York family, with most lines originating in Holland, and later ending up in "New Holland" or New York...." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Morning Sarge, I do not know if the (3) books are still copyrighted or not. I don't think they are. They were printed in 1914, 1926 and 1929 and far as I can tell out of print and no longer available for purchase unless you luck up finding a very old copy. The 1914 volume is available in many libraries but not for checking out of the library. I bought two of my CD copies several years ago (2003 & 2004) from a printing company that scanned old books onto CD. The other one (1929) I downloaded picture page by page and then scanned them into a PDF file for myself and some other researchers. I then just recently downloaded the 1914 volume due to the pictures were much better in the digitized PDF that I found online for FREE. I have always felt funny selling CDs to others especially when I like to share any info that might help others in their research and I don't like making money off others who are trying to research their families without spending a fortune doing it. So, I just charge the fee of mailing and I can mail any way the person would like. I recently mailed a CD to Australia. My new best website friend for downloading full books for free in PDF format is at books.google.com There is a trick though...Go into "Advanced Search". Mark "100 Searches". Enter a "Name" and any other clue, like an author name. Mark "Full book". You will be shocked as to how many books are out their that mention the Fishback family. There is one book that I found on Abraham Lincoln where he writes to his old lawyer William M. Fishback (Gov. of Arkansas). I have found books on almost all my family lines that I am researching (even one called "Genealogical and Historical Notes on Culpeper County, Virginia" Published 1900) They are big files, big books, so be prepared. I keep flash drives (256MB, 1GB and 2GB) with me at all times. When I am not busy at work, my bosses allow me to do my family research (I think they get as excited as I do when I find that missing fella or gal that I have been looking for), so when I find something I can download it onto my stick and transfer it to my home computer or a CD later. Another thing I have done is if I see a book on ancestry or some other site I then immediately go and check to see if I can download it from books.google.com for FREE!! (I just looked at books.google.com and they do write on that the 1914 book copyright has expire) Anyway, send me your address to _JensTwigs@aol.com_ (mailto:JensTwigs@aol.com) and I will be happy to get a cd out to you ASAP if you would like one. Jennie In a message dated 7/28/2008 3:19:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, germanna_colonies-request@rootsweb.com writes: What a nice offer! First, are any of the 3 books still copyrighted? If not, I would love to have a PDF file for all of them. This would be great to add to the website for the 1st and 2nd Germanna Colonies (unofficial), on a separate page, listed in the Index on the Home Page. The reason I mention copyright is that if such has been renewed, we couldn't copy the data and put on the website; however, if there is no copyright, "fair game". Thanks, Sarge **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

At 7/27/2008 09:44 AM Sunday, Jenstwigs@aol.com wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Good Morning! > >I know I don't respond much, but I do read all posts and this message caught >my attention. I recently found one of my favorite new sites (not sure if I >am allowed to tell it on the list so I won't for now) and on it a book that I > >was not aware of before. I have CD copies of "The Genealogy of the Fishback >Family in America 1714-1914" by Willis Miller Kemper and "Genealogy of the >Fishback Family - The Descendants of Harman Fishback 1926" by Reuben Dewitt >Fishback, but I didn't know that there was a third book. Did y'all? > >Anyway, the third book is also by Reuben D. Fishback and titled "Supplement >to the Genealogy of the Fishback Family of 1914 Containing the Historical of >the Edition of 1926..." published in 1929. It is a short book but it has >lots of interesting items. He includes letters to and from Germany in 1925, >info relating to Harman Fishback the emigrate, story of soldier Jesse >Fishback, >and extracts from the records of Siegen Germany (very interesting and does >list baptisms, marriages and a few deaths going back into the 1600s, my >Fishbacks are included in these lists. I am a direct descendant to John >Fishback). >He also tells how his efforts to have Germanna marked by a suitable memorial >have met with success (1927). > >If anyone is interested in a PDF file of this book (its over 1MB in size), >please email ME at _JensTwigs@aol.com_ (mailto:JensTwigs@aol.com) or >if you'd >prefer a CD which includes all 3 books let me know (shipping charges only). > >Jennie >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Hello Jennie, What a nice offer! First, are any of the 3 books still copyrighted? If not, I would love to have a PDF file for all of them. This would be great to add to the website for the 1st and 2nd Germanna Colonies (unofficial), on a separate page, listed in the Index on the Home Page. The reason I mention copyright is that if such has been renewed, we couldn't copy the data and put on the website; however, if there is no copyright, "fair game". BTW, Rootsweb/Ancestry IS kind of "touchy" about advertisements and such, but if you merely mention the name of the website and give the name of a book found there, without prices, it should be OK. Thanks, Sarge

George, Thank you for responding and for your time both then and now. Sherry Nay -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of George W. Durman Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:17 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Little Fork article At 7/27/2008 06:23 PM Sunday, mseagle246@aol.com wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >On Rootsweb, under family trees, type in Germanna where it says jump to a >specific data base.? To the right is a link to Germanna Colonies Family >History.? And then, on?the left,?just scroll down to The Little Fork Colony >link. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sherry Nay <snay2@verizon.net> >To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com >Sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:49 am >Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Little Fork article > >I would assume so, although that is not where I got it. Can one still >access it through Rootsweb? If so, how? >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Thanks MSEAGLE246. I had forgotten I had posted the article there! Goes to show how memory can go. It has been 2 and a half years since I posted that. For the benefit of those who don't know the address of the website, here it is: <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geeorge/index.html> You can go directly to the Little Fork page here: <http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/littleforkcolony.html> Regards, Sarge ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1576 - Release Date: 7/27/2008 4:16 PM

At 7/27/2008 06:23 PM Sunday, mseagle246@aol.com wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >On Rootsweb, under family trees, type in Germanna where it says jump to a >specific data base.? To the right is a link to Germanna Colonies Family >History.? And then, on?the left,?just scroll down to The Little Fork Colony >link. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sherry Nay <snay2@verizon.net> >To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com >Sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:49 am >Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Little Fork article > >I would assume so, although that is not where I got it. Can one still >access it through Rootsweb? If so, how? >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Thanks MSEAGLE246. I had forgotten I had posted the article there! Goes to show how memory can go. It has been 2 and a half years since I posted that. For the benefit of those who don't know the address of the website, here it is: <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~geeorge/index.html> You can go directly to the Little Fork page here: <http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/littleforkcolony.html> Regards, Sarge

On page 372 of the book it says that John Huffman was the 5th son of Tillman Huffman and that John Huffman married Elizabeth Huffman who was the daughter of his Uncle John.? Then it says that John's children were mentioned in his will and they were 1 Edmund 2 Thornton 3 Alfred 4 Burrell 5 Uriah 6 Felix 7 Alexander and 8 Jefferson.?? "The will of John Huffman leaves his property to his wife Elizabeth and his sons, Felix, Edmund, Thornton, and Alfred; mentions "all my children," and appoints the son Felix, executor.? Of the children mentioned in the will, Alfred N Huffman m. Jane F Stringfellow No. 18, 1845 in Fulpeper Co. and Felix Huffman m. Juliet Ann Green Jan 31, 1838." I thought that Alfred Huffman of the Little Fork group was the one who married Jane Stringfellow. Debby -----Original Message----- From: ANITA SCHMIDT <schmidt.a@verizon.net> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com; germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:32 pm Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] New to this Board: Looking for Culpeper, VA Hoffmans.. Alfred N. Huffman was the 7th child of Elisha Huffman and Elizabeth Scales born 1818. He married Jane Stringfellow 18 Nov 1845. (See page 356 of B. B. Holtsclaw's Ancestry and Descendants of the Nassau-Siegen Immigrants to Virginia 1714-1750) Alfred Huffman, born 8 May 1798 in Culpeper and died 12 May 1869 in Rolla, MO - Elk Prairie cemetery. He married Sarah Jane (Jones) Jones 1835 in Phelps Co. (previously Crawford). He was the son of John and Elizabeth Hoffman. Sarah was the widown of Thomas Calhoun Jones, a first cousin. My son-in-law, Toby Huffman is descended from their son, Thornton Stringfellow Huffman. Thornton Stringfellow was a minister in Culpeper. Anita Schmidt ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] New to this Board: Looking for Culpeper, VA Hoffmans.. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: DebbyCavalcante > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.germannacolonies/591.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I think you have the wrong Alfred HUFFMAN. The Alfred who married Jane F > Stringfellow is from the Little Fork Huffmans of Germanna as follows: > > Hans Henrich HOFMANN b.1712 Germany d. 1783 Culpeper Co. VA > m. Anna Margarette HUETTENHEN b. 15 Sep 1713 Ger d.1792 VA > Tillman HUFFMAN b. 1735 VA d. 1826 VA (wife unknown) > John HUFFMAN b. 1764 m. Elizabeth HUFFMAN d/o his Uncle > Alfred N HUFFMAN b. Apr 8, 1797 m. Jane F STRINGFELLOW > > This information is in the book "Ancestry and desendants of the > Nassau-Siegen immigrants to Virginia 1712-1750" by B. C. Holtsclaw > > Debby > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Rootsweb, under family trees, type in Germanna where it says jump to a specific data base.? To the right is a link to Germanna Colonies Family History.? And then, on?the left,?just scroll down to The Little Fork Colony link. -----Original Message----- From: Sherry Nay <snay2@verizon.net> To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:49 am Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Little Fork article I would assume so, although that is not where I got it. Can one still access it through Rootsweb? If so, how? -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mseagle246@aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:35 AM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Little Fork article I saw the article that was posted on the Germann Colonies Family History at Rootsweb called The Little Fork Colony by Dr B. C. Holtzclaw.? Is that the same one? -----Original Message----- From: Sherry Nay <snay2@verizon.net> To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:10 am Subject: [GERMANNA] Little Fork article Have all of you who have voiced interest in the Little Fork seen the article on the Little Fork Colony published in the 1960 annual report? This is separate from his book on the Nassau-Seigen Immigrants. -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mseagle246@aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:57 AM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Hans Henrich Hofmann/Nay You have to remember that for me and other newbies, this is MORE.? A lot of us have just realized that we have a connection to Germanna.? Two years ago, I had never heard of Germanna.? So you who have been doing this a long time, please tell us where all the info is.? I have the book by Holtsclaw and I have the SETTLE book that mentions Germanna here and there.? I've also discovered John's notes.? Is there more than this? Debby -----Original Message----- From: HFTHusma@aol.com To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 8:44 am Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Hans Henrich Hofmann/Nay In a message dated 7/27/2008 12:27:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RockCatt@aol.com writes: Hackley and BC Holtzclaw spent a lot of time exploring the area of the Little Fork and the families, but I want more!!! That desire will drive yo u for years to come. But at some point the avenues will narrow to a trickle and you or they will be gone. The idea that there must be more than we know now is consuming. The truth my be that there is nothing more and what you have is what you get' I am of the school that believes that there is more some where--an attic or basement of a courthouse or a library, or an old bible or a fallen tomb stone. There is always hope of a new find. I call it the rainbow effect. Hugh ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- -------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sherry Nay mentioned the article on The Little Fork Colony. This 7-part series was first posted to this List in December 2002, by Thom Faircloth. Rootsweb has changed the way one accesses List Archives and it's a little and and time-consuming for lots of people; so, I'm reposting here (hope Thom doesn't mind). Just in case anyone wants to do a search for Archives of past posts to the List, here are the procedures: (FOR THREADED ARCHIVES, by Month and Year) 1 Go to <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/germanna_colonies> (FOR ACCESSING OTHER THREADED ARCHIVES, by Month and Year) 1) Go to <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index>; 2) Type in the name of the List, such as GERMANNA_COLONIES, WILHITE, WILHOIT, etc.; 3) That will bring up a table of all the Archives, by Month and Year, from the earliest postings to present. (FOR CONDUCTING AN INTERACTIVE SEARCH, which will show all posts containing your search term(s)) 1) Go to <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search>; 2) Click on "Advanced"; 3) Type in your search term(s) in either SUBJECT or BODY; 4) Type in the name of the List, such as GERMANNA_COLONIES, WILHITE, WILHOIT, etc.; 5) You can also type in a time frame if you know it; 6) This will bring up a page of all "hits" for your search term(s); (There's a trick to doing an "Interactive Search". Here's an example: If you want to search the BROYLES List for SUSANNAH BROYLES, put double quotes around the whole name. If you type in the name without quotes, you'll get hits for every time SUSANNAH or BROYLES appears in the body of a post. The same thing applies to doing a search in the Subject Line. Of course, you have to know the correct spelling for a List, and even if such a List exists. To look through an Index of Lists, go here: <http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/index.html> As an example, if you're looking YAGER, YEAGER, or other spellings, click on "Y" and look at the list. You'll find Lists for YAGER, YAEGER, and YAEGER. If you're looking for CLORE, CLAAR, etc., click on "C" and look through the list. You'll find CLORE and CLOER. If you look in the I'm sending Thom's 7-part postings in separate emails to follow this one. (Originally posted on this List, 8 Dec 2002, by Thom Faircloth.) Today I will begin posting the 1960 article by Dr. B. C. Holtzclaw on the Little Fork Colony. It was published in the 1960 annual report and was I believe the typescript of Dr. Holtzclaw's address to the 1960 Annual Reunion. It will take several days to post as it is a long article. Dr. Benjamin C. Holtzclaw was author of "The Holtzclaw Genealogy" and of many other important studies. He was the Head of the Department of Philosophy and served as Dean of the Graduate School, University of Richmond. He was also the official Historian for The Germanna Foundation. THE LITTLE FORK COLONY The Second Colony from Nassau-Siegen near Jeffersonton, Culpeper Co., VA. The First definite reference to this colony is found in the report and diary of Brother Matthias Gottschalk, a Moravian Missionary from Pennsylvania, who visited the various German settlements in Virginia in March and April, 1748. These reports are to be found in Volumes 11 and 12 of the Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, and quite clearly identify this colony, which has been confused in the past with the first Nassau-Siegen group that settled, first at Germanna on the Rapidan River in 1714; then later removed to Germantown on Licking Run in what is now Fauquier County. The second colony was settled in the Little Fork of the Rappahannock River in the northern part of Culpeper Co., where the Hedgeman and Hazel Rivers meet to form the north branch of the Rappahannock, The present town of Jeffersonton was laid out on land that belonged to one of the colonists, Joseph Coons. My colleague, Professor Woodford B. Hackley, who was reared near Jeffersonton, has been of great help in tracing the members of the colony, and particularly in showing how their land adjoined around Jeffersonton. Brother Gottschalk's "Report" states that after visiting the large and prosperous colony of Lutherans near Hebron Church he next traveled 26 miles towards the Potomac to the Great Fork of the Rappahannock (i.e., the vicinity of Germanna), where he found only three German Families still living. Then, under the heading, "The Little Fork of the Rappahannock", he has the following to say (Va. Mag., Vol. 11, pp. 232-3) "It is situated about twenty-two miles from the Great Fork toward the Potomik, Twelve families of the Siegen district, being of the Reformed religion, live there close together. They are very fine, neighborly and friendly people, who love each other in their manner and live together very peacefully. The brother of our Matthew Hoffman, John Henry Hoffman, also lives there and I lodged with him. They built a small, neat and suitable church, and engaged one of their number, John Jung, to be the Reader of the church, who conducts services for them every Sunday. They can not get a minister, because they are so few in number." Brother Gottschalk then goes on to state that he preached for the Little Fork group on April 10, 1748; that then John Jung and Hoffman accompanied him across the North River of the Rappahannock (i.e., the Hedgeman River); that very late in the afternoon he came to the home of Jacob Holtzclaw, the reader and schoolmaster at Germantown; and that he stayed there until April 12, 1748. {to be continued} Thom Faircloth

Searching for the parents of Ann Kemper who married James Crockett.  Their daughter, Mary Ann ( b. abt 1770 d. bef. Dec 1804), married William Green (b. abt 1770 d. Dec 1804).  William Green was a brother of Alice Green who married Stephen Holtzclaw. Suzanne Collins Matson

People should also be aware of inter-library loan. I find this preferable to LDS because of the possibility of getting a bound copy rather than microfilm. I would use the Family History catalog to get titles - there is some description which can help you decide which Family History study you want under any given surname. Copy the title and author and take that information to your local public librarian. The librarian will then look it up on what is called World Cat (or OCLC) and can request it for you. Sometimes libraries will not loan these, but usually there will be a library that will to that. Again, your local librarian will find all of this out for you. -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Hdanw@aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:54 PM To: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANNA] Trying to Locate Family Histories Which May Have BeenPublished To those who are unaware that the Family History Library in Salt Lake City has many published family histories, and certainly a good many pertaining to Germanna descendants, may I suggest you do some surname searching on the Family History Library Catalog. Most, but not all, the surnames of the Germanna colonists are uncommon enough in this country for you do a fairly good search. You may have to misspell the name, such as Huffman - lots of variants!!! Go to _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) This website has recently been remodeled. Look in the tool bar [or whatever nerds call it] for Library. Click on that. At the bottom of the list is *Catalog* Click on that. There will be several choices, including *Key Word*--which is not always efficient. But *Surname* is a place to start for Germanna names. A good many of these volumes/manuscripts have been filmed. You can order these films to a FHC near your home. If you are NOT near an FHC, then you can use a FORM which is on the same website, called *Request for Photocopy*. For a fee, the Library will send you copies of the index of a certain book--in most cases. Then you can order photocopies of the pages which interest you. There will be a fee, of course, but it is not exorbitant!!! (Genealogy is not the same as owning a yacht!) Lots of armchair genealogists use this route. And even those who are still young enough--and have good credit for flying--use this method. Just a hint to those who are not familiar with the great resources of the FH Library. E.W.Wallace PS Those of you who have access to HeritageQuest through your local public library can do a Book search for Holtzclaw and turn up several of his books. Reading books on the internet is not the best way, but, we all have to change with the times!!! Also try Willis N. Kemper!!! **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Sherry for bringing the article to our attention once more. I've composed emails to this List containing the 7-part series, which were originally posted by Thom Faircloth. (Thanks Thom) Hope Thom doesn't mind, but the original posts are already online at Rootsweb -- it's just too difficult to get to them for most people and I thought it would just be better to repost them. Regards, Sarge At 7/27/2008 10:10 AM Sunday, Sherry Nay wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Have all of you who have voiced interest in the Little Fork seen the article >on the Little Fork Colony published in the 1960 annual report? This is >separate from his book on the Nassau-Seigen Immigrants. >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT***********

(Originally posted on this List, 25 Dec 2002, by Thom Faircloth.) This concludes the 1960 Article by Dr. B. C. Holtzclaw on the Little Fork Colony. It originally appeared in the Germanna Annual. Two other colonists who almost certainly left Germany with the group in 1713 were Jacob Weaver, father of Tillman Weaver, who is stated by Mr. Willis Kemper, author of the Kemper Genealogy, to have died either in England during the short stay of the colony there, or almost immediately after landing in Virginia; and Anna Gertrud, the first wife of Joseph Cuntze, and the mother of the three children for whom he claimed land in 1724. These two individuals would bring the total number to 37. The above conclusions seem fairly certain; what follows is more hypothetical. But if the Utterback Genealogy, leaning heavily on the report of Rev. James Kemper that the Utterbacks came over in 1714, is correct, it would add 4 more people to the original group, namely, Hermann Otterbach, father of Mrs. Holtzclaw and Mrs. Kemper, his wife Elizabeth Heimbach, and his two sons, John Philip and John Otterbach. This would bring the total to 41, and the entire number of 42 would be completed by John Justus Albrecht, de Graffenried's agent who secured the colonists in Germany and was with them at least as late as 1718. Of the 12 men who petitioned for land in 1724, only 5 were married in Germany as far as the records show, namely, Cuntze (to his first wife Anna Gertrud), Hitt, Holtzclaw, Rector, and Spilman. Tillman Weaver, who was a boy in 1714, married much later Ann Elizabeth, eldest daughter of Joseph Cuntze. The remaining 6 men seem to have been bachelors when they left Germany in 1713, namely, Melchoir Brumback aged only 18 in 1713, John Fishback (aged 22), Harmann Fishback (aged 20), John Huffman (aged 21), John Kemper (aged 21), John Joseph Martin (aged 22). Of these 6 men, we know that John Fishback must have married Agnes Haeger probably about 1714-15, as his eldest child was born in 1716. John Kemper married Alice Katherine Otterback, daughter of Hermann Otterbach, and that marriage, too, probably occurred in Virginia about 1715, as their eldest child was born in 1717. As to John Huffman, we know from his family Bible that he did not marry his wife, Katherine Haeger, until 1 721. The maiden names of the wives of the remaining three men, Melchoir Brumbach, Harman Fishback, and John Joseph Martin, remain unknown; yet in the 1724 affidavits, they all state that their wives arrived in Virginia in April, 1714. If the family, not only of Philip Fishback, but also of Hermann Otterbach, came over in 1714, it would account plausibly for these three wives as follows; Philip Fishback had two daughters named Mary Elizabeth, one born in 1687, the second in 1696. The first married Jacob Rector in Germany in 1711. The second seems probably identical with Elizabeth, wife of Melchoir Brumbach of the 1724 record. Besides Anna Margaret, wife of Jacob Holtzclaw, and Alice Katherine, wife of John Kemper, Hermann Otterbach had two other daughters, Mary Katherine (b. 1699) and Anna Katherine (b. 1705). The former looks as though she was Mary Katherine, wife of John Joseph Martin, of the 1724 record. The latter could have been Katherine, wife of Herman Fishback, probably just married in 1724. The coincidence of the names of the above wives with the names of daughters of Philip Fishback and Hermann Otterbach, certainly indicates that these two older men came over in 1714 with their children and sons-in-law; and that several of their daughters did not marry until several years after coming to Virginia. There remains only one puzzle about the 1724 men: who was Katherine, wife (second wife) of Joseph Cuntze, whom he obviously married after coming to America? A good guess is that she may have been a sister of Tillman Weaver and daughter of Jacob and Anna Weaver. The theory that Phlilp Fishback and Harman Otterbach came over in 1714 also fits in with the attested statement that there were only 9 houses at Germanna in 1715. They would have been occupied by the 5 men of the 1724 affidavits whom we know to have been married, plus four more occupied by the Weaver family, Rev. Mr. Haeger, Philip Fishback's family, and Hermann Otterbach's family; and the bachelors would have been distributed around among these nine families. If the above theory is correct, then Henry Utterback of the Little Fork was probably born in Virginia, a grandson of Hermann Otterbach of 1714, as stated in the Utterback book; and his presence on the ship in Philadelphia in 1734 may perhaps be accounted for by the theory that he, too, though quite a young man, went to Germany with Hans Jacob Fischbach to secure new colonists from Nassau-Siegen. Thom Faircloth

(Originally posted on this List, 14 Dec 2002, by Thom Faircloth.) Sorry for the delay, but the Ice Storm has had me stymied. This is Day five of The Little Fork Colony by B.C. Holtzclaw published in the Germanna Annual Report of 1960. In my last posting, Day 4, I mis-typed a date the 1534 should have read Sept. 23, 1734, my apologies and thanks to Hugh for catching the error. Further details regarding the 13 men directly connected with the Little Fork colony are summarized as follows: 1. Harman Back. He was an appraiser of the estate of John Huffman, father or brother of Henry Huffman, in 1741 (Orange Co. W. B. 1, p. 161); was deeded land by Jacob Holtzclaw in 1748 (Orange Co. D. B. 11, p. 85); and he and his wife Katherine sold the land in 1789 (Culpeper D. B. "P", p. 86). The tax-lists of Culpeper Co. show Harman Back, Jr., and Joseph Bach as probably his sons. John Back and Henry Back, owners of 150 acres apiece in Culpeper in 1779, may have been older sons. 2. Joseph Coons (Cuntze). He was probably a relative of Joseph Cuntze of the 1714 group, but apparently not a son or grandson, for the will of Joseph Cuntze in 1730 mentions only sons Henry and Tillman Cuntze, both under age. Joseph Coons of the Little Fork was granted the land on which the town of Jeffersonton now stands in 1747 (N. N. Grants, "G", p. 7), and in 1783 he and his wife Elizabeth deeded it to their son, Joseph Coons, Jr. (Culpeper D. B. "L", p 246). The wife, Elizabeth was probably identical with an Elizabeth Catherine Cuntze who appears as a daughter and heir of Rev. John Casper Stover, the first pastor of Hebron Lutheran Church in 1739 (Orange Co. W.B. 1, pp. 237-8). Culpeper Co. deeds and tax-lists show three other sons of Joseph and Elizabeth Coons. Jacob, John, and Henry Coons. Jacob and Henry married daughters of Jacob Hanback. 3. John Crim. Crim is probably the German name, Grimm. Hermann Grimm of Trupbach was godfather of Harman Fishback of the 1714 group in 1693, and John Crim may have been a relative. John Crim was granted land next to Joseph Coons in 1747 (N.N. Grants, "G", p. 8), but he, his wife Gertrude ("Caretrout"), and son John Crim, Jr., had all moved to Fauquier Co. and deeded the land way in 1767 (Culpeper D. B. "E", p. 219). The Little Fork land seems to have come back to the Crims, however, for it was in the possession of George Crim, probably another son, in 1783 (D. B. "L", p. 246). A third son was probably Jacob Crim, who appears in several Culpeper deeds from 1779 to 1782. 4. Frederick Fishback (1716) - 1782), as mentioned, was eldest son of John Fishback of Germantown, and married Ann Elizabeth, eldest daughter of Jacob Holtzclaw. His descendants are given in the Fishback genealogy. 5. Jacob Fishback. It is uncertain whether Jacob Fishback was the Hans Jacob Fischbach who landed at Philadelphia in 1734, or whether he was the young "cousin Jacob Fishback", who was apprenticed to John Fishback of Germantown and who was left a small bequest in the latter's will, dated Mar. 11, 1733/4. It seems certain that Jacob was not a son either of John Fishback of Germantown or of his brother Harman. Jacob Fishback's wife Katherine and his sons, John and Frederick, are mentioned in the Holtzclaw deed to them in 1748 (Orange Co., D.B. 11, p. 88). The Tax-lists of Culpeper Co. show Jacob Fishback in 1785 as an old man, exempt from taxes; in 1786 they show only "John Fishback son of Jacob", so that Jacob probably died in 1785 or 1786. I have found nothing further regarding this branch of the Fishback Family. 6 Jacob Hanback. On April 17, 1757, John Green and Susannah his wife deeded 400 acres in the close neighborhood of the Little Fork Germans to Jacob Hanback, Harman Young, and John Hanback, and the three men divided the land in 1785 (Culpeper D. B. "C", p. 43; D. B. "N", p. 46). Jacob Hanback died in 1785. His will, dated Nov. 1, 1785, and probated in Culpeper Co. Dec. 19, 1785 (W. B. "C", p. 152), mentions sons John, Jacob and William; daughters Susannah Hanback, Elizabeth, wife of Jacob Coons, Mary, wife of Henry Coons, and "the children of my daughter Catherine, deceased"; wife and Jacobs Coons, executors. Judging by the 1757 deed above, the deceased daughter, Catherine, was probably the wife of Harman Young. A deed in 1792 shows that Jacob Hanback's wife was named Mary (Culpeper D. B. "R", p. 96). {to be continued.} Thom Faircloth

(Originally posted on this List, 16 Dec 2002, by Thom Faircloth.) This is Day 6 of The Little Fork Colony by B. C. Holtzclaw as published in the 1960 Annual Report of The Germanna Foundation. 7. Henry Huffman, Henry Huffman was certainly the John Henry Hoffman of Brother Gottschalk's report in 1748., brother of Matthew Hoffman of Bethlehem, PA. He is not to be confused (as has been done in the past) with John Hoffman of the 1714 Colony, who moved to the neighborhood of the Lutheran group about 1729 and is said to have founded "Hoffman's Chapel" of the Reformed faith there. He is almost certainly the Hans Heinrich Hoffman who landed at Philadelphia in 1734. On June 25, 1741, Henry Huffman (also called Hans Henry) administered on the estate of John Huffman, decd., in Orange Co. (W.B. 1, p. 155; O. B. 2, p. 400). John Huffman was probably his father or another brother who had come over from Nassau-Siegen. Mr. Huffman accumulated a considerable amount of land in the Little Fork, as shown by deeds from William Deatherage in 1747, Jacob Holtzclaw in 1748, George Wayman in 1760, and a grant in 1768 (Orange Co. D. B. 11, pp. 48 and 83; Culpeper D. B. "C", p. 284; N. N. Grants, "O", p. 153). A deed June 21, 1770, shows that his wife was Margaret Harnsberger, daughter of Stephen Harnsberger and granddaughter of John Harnsberger and Anna Purva his wife of the 1717 colony (Culpeper D. B. "F", p. 96). Henry Huffman died in Culpeper Co. in 1783. His will, dated April 15, 1967, and probated Sept. 15, 1783 (Culpeper W. B. "C", pp. 30-33), mentions his wife Margaret; son-in-law John Young; sons Tillman, John, Henry, Joseph, and Harmon; daughters Elizabeth (m. John Young), Mary, Alice, Susannah, and Eve Huffman. The daughter Alice became the second wife of James Spilman. Professor Hackley is descended from them. 8. Harman Miller. Harman Miller may have been a son of Jacob Miller, who was granted land among the Lutheran group in 1733 and was admitted to citizenship along with several members of that group in 1742 (Grant Book 15, p. 110; Orange Co. O. B. 3, p. 346). It is certain that Jacob Miller was connected with Germanna, for in 1735 it is stated that he was living in Governor Spotswood's quarter (Orange Co. O. B. 1, pp. 18-19). Harman Miller and his wife, Elizabeth Holtzclaw, moved to Halifax Co. Va., sometime between 1760 and 1764, and Harman died there in 1772. His will, dated Jan. 20, 1772, and probated Sept. 17, 1772 (Halifax Co. W. B. "O", p. 353), mentions his wife Elizabeth; sons Jacob and Joseph; and five daughters, among them Eva, Anna, and Mary. Harman Miller seems to have been a brother of John Frederick Miller of Halifax Co., who died there in 1789 and who had sons Jacob and Harman among a number of other children. 9. Jacob Nay, b. 1732/3, probably son of Johannes Noch and wife Mary (who m. (2) Harman Fishback). This family probably landed in Philadelphia in 1734, as indicated. Land was surveyed for Jacob Nay in the Little Fork in 1748 and the grant was made in 1752 (M. M. Grants, "H", p. 176). The Culpeper Co. tax-list of 1784 shows Jacob Nay, Jr., John Nay, and Samuel Nay close to Jacob Nay, and they were probably his sons. 10. James Spilman. He was son of John Spilman of the 1714 colony. We have indicated that he was in the Little Fork community in 1747, has assumed a debt of George Wayman, and was perhaps Wayman's son-in-law. His first wife was probably a Martha Spilman who died Sept. 7, 1771, as recorded on her tombstone just west of the Jacob Holtzclaw land in the Little Fork. James Spilman's second wife was Alice Huffman, daughter of Henry Huffman. Mr. Spilman received grants in the Little Fork in 1751 and 1775 (N.N. Grants "G", p. 492; "P", p. 159) and acquired considerable land in the neighborhood. He died in Culpeper Co. in 1790, leaving a will. By his first marriage, James Spilman had four sons, Nathanael, Charles, Thomas, and William. By his second marriage he had three sons, John (From whom Professor Hackley is descended)m, Henry and Philip; and three daughters, Elizabeth, Susannah and Peggy. 11. Henry Utterback. He was perhaps the Hans Henrich Otterpach who landed in Philadelphia in 1734, though the Utterback Genealogy contends that (in accordance with Rev. James Kemper's statement) the Utterback of the Little Fork and his cousin Henry Utterback of Fauquier Co., who married prior to 1746 Agnes, daughter of Melchior Brumback of the 1714 colony, were both born in Virginia, grandsons of Harman Otterback, the father of Mrs. Holtzclaw and Mrs. Kemper of the 1714 colony. Henry Utterback's wife was named Anna. He died in Culpeper Co. in 1799. his descendants are traced in the Utterback Genealogy. {to be continued} Thom Faircloth

(Originally posted on this List, 11 Dec 2002, by Thom Faircloth.) This is day 4 of Dr. Holtzclaw's 1960 article on The Little Fork Colony. A 13th man who was probably living among the Little Fork Germans in 1748 was Jacob Hanback (probably a corruption of the German surname Heimbach). the Holtzclaws, Fishbacks, and Kempers at Germantown were all descended from Heimbachs in Nassau-Siegen, and the surname occurs there as early as 1444. It is true that Jacob Hanback is not mentioned in the documents of Culpeper Co. until 1757, but his land was in the immediate neighborhood of the Little Fork Germans; two of his daughters married sons of Joseph Coons and another married a son of John Young; Rev. James Kemper thought that Hanback, as well as Utterback and Wayman, was a member of the original 1714 colony. In view of the above it seems rather likely that Hanback was living in the Little Fork colony in 1748. If so, Jacob Nay was probably living with his stepfather, Harman Fishback, at Germantown in that year, and the Hanbacks would be the 12th family alluded to by Brother Gottschalk. The following three men were probably later immigrants from Nassau-Siegen, though in the case of the first two, they were not associated directly with the Little Fork group: John Miliord (Melchoir) Fiter died in Prince William Co. in 1735. His sister, Mary Dorothea Fiter, was the second wife of John Fishback of the 1714 colony. Fiter's will leaves his property to his wife Mary and his sister, Mary Fishback (Prince William D. B. "C", p. 57). John Ricketer (Rector) died in Prince William Co. in 1742, his inventory being made by John Holtzclaw, eldest son of Jacob Holtzclaw (Prince William D. B. "C", p. 388). He was not a son of Jacob Rector of the 1714 colony. Tillman Whitescarver (Weissgerber) was granted was granted land in Culpeper Co. somewhat north and north-west of the Little Fork group in 1752 (N. N. Grants "H", p. 177). He and his wife Margaret deeded land to Joseph Utterback, son of Henry Utterback, in 1764 (Culpeper D. B. "D", p. 412). His son was probably Harman Witescarver, who appears as early as 1767 and in later Culpeper Co. deeds. Whitescarver may be identical with a "Dilmanus Weissgerber" who landed at Philadelphia Aug. 31, 1750. The name, Weissgerber, appears at an early date in Nassau-Siegen. It means a "tawer", one who prepares leather without the use of tan-bark. The names of six of the 16 men mentioned above occur in a list of male passengers who landed at Philadelphia in the ship "Hope", Sept. 23, 1534 (Rupp "30,000 Names", p. 197). They were: Hans Henrich Hoffman, Johannes Jung, Johannes Noeh, Hans Jacob Fischbach, Hans Henrich Otterpach, and Johannes Richter, all over 16. In addition the list shows two boys under 16, Hermann Jung (who reappears at the Little Fork as Harman Young and was probably the eldest son of John Young), and Johann Jacob Noch (who seems to be the Jacob Nay, orphan b. 1732-3, who appears at the Little Fork and was apparently son of Johannes Noeh). {to be continued} Thom Faircloth

(Originally posted on this List, 10 Dec 2002, by Thom Faircloth.) Here is Day 3 of B. C. Holtzclaw's 1960 article on The Little Fork Colony from the Annual Report. The second member of the Little Fork group from Germantown was Frederick Fishback (1716-1782), son-in-law of Jacob Holtzclaw. Fishback's father, John Fishback of Germantown, got a grant of 400 acres in the Little Fork in 1730, just northwest of Jacob Holtzclaw's 1728 grant, but with about 250 acres of vacant land between the two grants. It is not improbable that the second Nassau-Siegen colony grew out of efforts of Holtzclaw and Fishback to get settlers on their Little Fork land. However, John Fishback died early in 1734, an event which left Holtzclaw as the chief patron of the colony. Frederick Fishback, eldest son of John Fishback, seems to have moved to the Little Fork to occupy his father's land early in the 1740's, soon after his marriage to Ann Elizabeth Holtzclaw. He got a grant of additional land in the Little Fork neighborhood in 1747, and in 1748 enlarged his father's 1730 grant to 790 acres. Probably some of the remaining colonists listed below occupied Fishback land in the 1730's, before Frederick Fishback was of age. Brother Gottschalk mentions 12 families from Nassau-Siegen in 1748 in the Little Fork Community. In addition to the 7 men mentioned above, the following 4 men appear in 1747 and 1748: In 1747 Joseph Coons (Coants) and John Crim got grants of 127 1/2 acres apiece, adjacent to each other, and Professor Hackley has shown that these two grants occupied exactly the 255 acres of vacant land between Jacob Holtzclaw's grant of 1728 and John Fishback's grant of 1730. These two grants are of particular interest, for the town of Jeffersontown was later laid out on the Coons land, the deed being made by Joseph Coons, Jr., to whom his father deeded the land in 1783. Henry Utterback was another member of the colony. In 1747 he received a grant of 200 acres north of the Fishback grant of 1730. It was separated from the Fishback land by 397 acres, originally patented by William Deatherage, an Englishman, but was deeded by Deatherage to Henry Huffman of the Little Fork group in the same year, 1747 (Orange D. B. 11, p.48). Utterback also had a survey for 400 acres jointly with John Button in 1748 (Button, too, being probably and Englishman). This land was divided, and Utterback received his half (198 acres) by patent in 1748. The survey for Utterback and Button just mentioned shows the 11th Nassau-Siegen family in the Little Fork in 1748, that of Nay (Noe, Noeh, Nohe, Noch in German), a very old family in Nassau-Siegen, which is mentioned as early as 1461 at Klafeld, just north of Siegen. On the back of the survey, dated May 20, 1748, it is stated that Jacob Noe, an orphan in his 16th year, entered a caveat through his principal against the Utterback-Button survey and division, on the ground that his mother had purchased part of the land from Charles Dewit; but a later notation states that Jacob Holtzclaw had informed the surveyor that Noe had received another grant of about 140 acres and was satisfied with it, thus clearing the title for Utterback and Button. The actual grant was not recorded for Jacob Nay until 1752, when he was 19 or 20 years of age. It was for 146 acres and was just north of the 1747 grant to Henry Utterback, and joining it. we shall see that Jacob Nay's father was probably John Nay (or Johannes Noeh), who died some time prior to 1745, and his widow, Mary Noe, early in 1746, became the second wife of Harman Fishback (1693-1783) of Germantown (see Fishback's deed to Peter Hitt Feb. 7, 1745/6. "being about to marry Mary Noe, widow", Prince William Co. D. B. "I", p. 12). The 12th family living in the Little Fork community in 1748 was that of Harman Miller, who was a chainman with Joseph Coons in the survey for Jacob Nay, and with Frederick Fishback in the joint survey for Utterback and Button, both in the year 1748. Harman Miller was apparently a young man and had just married Elizabeth Holtzclaw, the third daughter of Jacob Holtzclaw. In his will in 1759 Jacob Holtzclaw left the Millers 300 acres of the 1300 acres patented at the Little Fork in 1748, and they were probably already occupying this land in 1748. {to be continued} Thom Faircloth

(Originally posted on this List, 9 Dec 2002, by Thom Faircloth.) This is day two of the Holtzclaw article on The Little Fork Colony The Little Fork Germans are referred to indirectly in 1743 in the diary of Leonard Schnell and Robert Hussey, Moravian missionaries, on their journey to Georgia. They stayed with Jacob Holtzclaw in Germantown from Nov. 23 to Nov. 25, 1743, and were told that Matthew Hoffman, a Moravian of Bethlehem, PA., had written several letters to his brother, who lived 10 miles away; that the brother had brought the letters to Holtzclaw to read, because he was afraid that Matthew Hoffman had fallen away from the true religion; but that Holtzclaw read the letters and liked them very well (Va. Mag., Vol. 11, pp. 376-8). The center of the Little Fork settlement was on land that belonged to Jacob Holtzclaw of Germantown. He was granted 680 acres on the branches of Indian Run in the Little Fork of the Rappahannock in 1728, and the tract was enlarged to 1300 acres by a later grant in 1748. On Aug. 22, 1748, Jacob Holtzclaw and Catherine his wife of Prince William Co. deeded parts of the tract to four families, as follows: Harman Back 100 acres (Orange Co. D. B. 11, p 85); John and Frederick Fishback, sons of Jacob Fishback and Catherine his wife, 150 acres, with life tenure to the parents (p.88); Henry Huffman 225 acres (p. 83); and John Young, Fr., and Katherine Young, infants, son and daughter of John Young and Mary his wife, 200 acres, with life tenure to the parents (p. 86). The Orange Co. list of tithables for 1739 shows that Jacob Holtzclaw was charged with 4 tithables on his Little Fork land, who were apparently the above 4 men, as the 1748 deeds state that the grantees were already living on the land. We can thus be pretty certain that the Little Fork group from Nassau-Siegen, or at least part of it, was established in 1749. Henry Huffman of the 1748 deed was quite clearly the John Henry Huffman of Brother Gottschalk's report, while John Young was John Jung, the Reader of the group. A fifth man, George Wayman, was also a member of the settlement as early as 1739, for on Feb. 26 of that year William Beverly gave him a life lease on 100 acres of land just southeast of Jacob Holtzclaw's tract (Orange D. B. 3, p. 389), and on May 24, 1754, Jacob Holtzclaw deeded him 98 acres of the old Holtzclaw grant between Henry Huffman and John Young (Culpeper D. B. "B", p. 115). Professor Hackley and I think that this tract of 98 acres, roughly a triangle, was probably the land on which the church was located; that it had been originally intended as the minister's glebe; and that it was not deeded to George Wayman until after the colony had given up hopes of securing a minister. Rev. James Kemper, who was born at Germantown in 1753, thought that Wayman (as well as Hanback and Utterback below) was a member of the original 1714 group from Nassau-Siegen, but except possibly in the case of Utterback, he seems to have confused members of the second Nassau-Siegen group with the first. Two other men who were in the Little Fork group in 1747 were sons of the original 1714 immigrants from Germantown. The first was James Spilman, son of John Spilman of Germantown. The William Beverly Papers in the Virginia Historical Society Library at Richmond show that in 1747 Spilman had assumed an arrears of debt of George Wayman (probably on the 1739 land deeded to Wayman by Beverly), but that Spilman had paid up the arrears by 1752. It is not improbable in view of the above that Spilman had married Wayman's daughter, as he was a young man, born ca. 1720-25. Spilman himself got a grant of 400 acres in the North Little Fork in 1751. {to be continued} Thom Faircloth

To those who are unaware that the Family History Library in Salt Lake City has many published family histories, and certainly a good many pertaining to Germanna descendants, may I suggest you do some surname searching on the Family History Library Catalog. Most, but not all, the surnames of the Germanna colonists are uncommon enough in this country for you do a fairly good search. You may have to misspell the name, such as Huffman - lots of variants!!! Go to _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) This website has recently been remodeled. Look in the tool bar [or whatever nerds call it] for Library. Click on that. At the bottom of the list is *Catalog* Click on that. There will be several choices, including *Key Word*--which is not always efficient. But *Surname* is a place to start for Germanna names. A good many of these volumes/manuscripts have been filmed. You can order these films to a FHC near your home. If you are NOT near an FHC, then you can use a FORM which is on the same website, called *Request for Photocopy*. For a fee, the Library will send you copies of the index of a certain book--in most cases. Then you can order photocopies of the pages which interest you. There will be a fee, of course, but it is not exorbitant!!! (Genealogy is not the same as owning a yacht!) Lots of armchair genealogists use this route. And even those who are still young enough--and have good credit for flying--use this method. Just a hint to those who are not familiar with the great resources of the FH Library. E.W.Wallace PS Those of you who have access to HeritageQuest through your local public library can do a Book search for Holtzclaw and turn up several of his books. Reading books on the internet is not the best way, but, we all have to change with the times!!! Also try Willis N. Kemper!!! **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Is this the e-mail of Hugh who wrote, in part: I am of the school that believes that there is more some where--an attic or basement of a courthouse or a library, or an old bible or a fallen tomb stone. There is always hope of a new find. I call it the rainbow effect. Hugh Well, yes, Hugh. I have a newish book about Fauquier Co., where my Kempers aka Kampers [First Germanna Colony] mainly resided. The book is by Joan W. Peters, who writes in the beginning paragraphs of her preface: *This is a book about Fauquier County Virginia's colonial and Revolutionary war tax lists These tax lists were discovered during a 1994 sixteen month grant projected, funded by the Library of Virginia. The purpose of this grant project was to mend, flat file, label, arrange, store and index the earliest papers records of the County. Tri-folded, jacketed and bundled together with red tape, the papers were packed into narrow 4" x 12" metal woodruff drawers, and arranged chronologically, by drawer, from the earliest papers of the 1759 county court through the cessation of the court, in 1904. "One of the record groupings associated with the preservaton grant project related to Tax and Fiscal records The records in this series portrayed the work done by the Justices who took the lists of Tithables from Fauquier's residents and the Sheriff and other officials who took in the actual taxes and were responsible for their transmission to the colonial capital. "Fauquier County is only one of a handful of Virginia counties whose colonial tax lists have survived down to the present day......." >From Joan W. Peters, CGRS, The Tax Man Cometh: Land & Property in Colonial Fauquier County, Virginia: Tax Lists from the Fauquier County Court Clerk's Loose Papers, 1759-1782 [Westminster, MD: Willow Bend Books, 1999] n.p. So hope springs eternal. I keep hoping some diligent person in a western Kentucky county will crawl into the attic or dig into the basement and find the first two missing court order books--which may have some more information about some of my ancestors--one from colonial Granville Co., NC!!! I must say the burned counties of Virginia stifle my hopes, however!!! So many of my Dad's lineage had their beginnings in colonial Virginia, many heading later west and south to help populate these United States! E.W.Wallace **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)