Would I have any Willhoite Blood that could be tested? Can several tests be made from one test? Unfortunately NO. Start with yourself and work backwards up the female line ONLY. The results from your DNA would reflect the earliest female line that you have knowledge of. The only person that can test both paternal and maternal lines is a son for one generation only. He inherits his mother's Mitochrondial DNA but does not pass it along. BUT he can have both tests run from the same sample. I had my brother's test done for both my father and my mother's lines. The Maternal test does not connect you to other people like the paternal line does (y-DNA). One reason is that it is not surnamed based. I hope this helps. Marilyn

Hi, Gail, My TN familly was Conway. Was there during the "Lost State of Franklin." Joy Watkins Gailsline@aol.com wrote: I belong to First Families of Tenn. as well! (Wilhoite line) Gail In a message dated 7/29/2008 11:58:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jhwatkins100@att.net writes: There are at several "First Families." Try "America's First Families," or "First Families of Virginia." I belong to "First Families of Tennessee." One of the most prestigious is "The Society of the Cincinnati." etc, etc. J. Watkins **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You might also want to look at the familytree DNA site. www.familytreedna.com There is a lot of information on line as well as various surname projects. There are special prices there also for ordering through a project. There are other DNA sites to look at also that have special deals. John

Cousins, I followed the link to the 1/2 DNA Tests. Are you sure that the testing company is Family Tree DNA (FTDNA)? FTDNA does not offer a 33 Marker Y Chromosome Test Kit nor a 46 Marker Y Chromosome Test Kit. I am the Group Administrator for the Morris Surname DNA Project through FTDNA. As a member of the group FTDNA offers a 12 Marker Y-Chromosome Test Kit for $99 and a 37 Marker Y Chromosome Test Kit for $189. So the 1/2 Test Kits seem to be a bargin. But I could not find out who the testing company is. I searched Ancestry and I Googled without results. In answer to the question about the ability to have additional tests performed on the original Test Kit, yes if you are with FTDNA. That is why I recommend to people to have their relatives tested while they are still alive. New and improved testing is being invented all of the time. Corlee Morris San Diego, California A Yeager

I belong to First Families of Tenn. as well! (Wilhoite line) Gail In a message dated 7/29/2008 11:58:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jhwatkins100@att.net writes: There are at several "First Families." Try "America's First Families," or "First Families of Virginia." I belong to "First Families of Tennessee." One of the most prestigious is "The Society of the Cincinnati." etc, etc. J. Watkins **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

Someone who know more about DNA could help you with this. My knowledge is limited. I did have mtDNA on myself but that is our mother's mother and so on, for several generations. I cannot tell that helped me at all. I think you would get the best result's on the Ydna on the Wilhite men in your family. One thing I have found interesting is the Ydna doesn't go any further back than my paper trail on my different surnames. I have Wilhite cousin's but I don't think they have done DNA. I didn't do all of my DNA with FTDNA. I did my DNA tracks with another company and that helped me to know where we lived and what our nationalities are. I am a great mixture and lots of German. Frances In a message dated 7/29/2008 8:28:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, winnie.miller@worldnet.att.net writes: Frances, thanks for the Ancestry half price sale on DNA tip. I have ordered it for my half brother. Right side. His test will be for Gowen Lancaster and the only male name of Lancaster I know exists from our line. Our great grandmother was Effie Jane Wilhoite married to Walter Luther Lancaster. Effie was the daughter of Norvel Stapp Wilhoite ( Tobias and Nancy Margaret Ellis) and Almira Jane Willhoite (Reynolds and Lucy Towles). As he is from a second marriage and 25 years younger than I: it is our first contact. Geneology does strange things. Question on the women's test. Would I have any Willhoite Blood that could be tested? Can several tests be made from one test? The Cobb Line from MA. has been tested through my grandmother's brother's line from MA. Is there any special questions we should ask Ancestry to be sure the test is compatible with other DNA tests? This is my first venture in this field. From: <KiwisKeeper@aol.com>e To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Ancestry running half price special on DNA > Ancestry running half price special on DNA. Frances > _http://dna.ancestry.com/offer/worlddeluxesave50?o_iid=36311&o_lid=36311_ > (http://dna.ancestry.com/offer/worlddeluxesave50?o_iid=36311&o_lid=36311) > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

If all of you women can prove your ancestor was here and owned land, juryman, pastor, sheriff, burgess, etc. by 1701, you can join the Society of Colonial Dames of the 17th Century. Anita Schmidt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Collins" <jjscollins@columbus.rr.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Fauquier County 250th Anniversary,First Families of Fauquier > There is a society . . . First Families of America . . . prove your > ancestors were here before 1675 or so . . . don't remember the exact > cut-off > date. Google it . . . > > Jackie Collins > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Gailsline@aol.com> > To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:07 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Fauquier County 250th Anniversary,First Families > of > Fauquier > > >>I haven't really been keeping up but I think there might be >> a society for those who were the first settlers in Fauquier. >> Sorry -- not very helpful. >> Gail >> >> >> In a message dated 7/27/2008 8:42:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> mseagle246@aol.com writes: >> >> Gail, If you thought your question was stupid then mine should top it.? >> What >> did you mean when you said "it would be really neat to join First >> Families"?? >> >> >> >> >> **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for >> FanHouse Fantasy Football today. >> (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Frances, thanks for the Ancestry half price sale on DNA tip. I have ordered it for my half brother. Right side. His test will be for Gowen Lancaster and the only male name of Lancaster I know exists from our line. Our great grandmother was Effie Jane Wilhoite married to Walter Luther Lancaster. Effie was the daughter of Norvel Stapp Wilhoite ( Tobias and Nancy Margaret Ellis) and Almira Jane Willhoite (Reynolds and Lucy Towles). As he is from a second marriage and 25 years younger than I: it is our first contact. Geneology does strange things. Question on the women's test. Would I have any Willhoite Blood that could be tested? Can several tests be made from one test? The Cobb Line from MA. has been tested through my grandmother's brother's line from MA. Is there any special questions we should ask Ancestry to be sure the test is compatible with other DNA tests? This is my first venture in this field. From: <KiwisKeeper@aol.com>e To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Ancestry running half price special on DNA > Ancestry running half price special on DNA. Frances > _http://dna.ancestry.com/offer/worlddeluxesave50?o_iid=36311&o_lid=36311_ > (http://dna.ancestry.com/offer/worlddeluxesave50?o_iid=36311&o_lid=36311) > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry Marilyn, See if these are better instructions for books.google.com 1) Go to "advance search" 2) Click for "100 Results" (sorry not searches) 3) In the box "with the exact phrase" TRY Knowlton Genealogy - it should automatically put " " around your phrase or name you want to search 4) Below the bluish gray box where it says "Search:" Mark the FULL VIEW ONLY button/circle. This will pull up complete books that you can download. If this is not marked your return will include full books, partials and just snippets of books. By doing the above I had a return of (11) books with one interesting written in 1897 on the Knowlton Association titled "Prospectus and Year Book Containing the History, Constitution, By-Laws, List of Officers and Members of the Knowlton Association of America..." Happy searching! In a message dated 7/29/2008 3:25:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, germanna_colonies-request@rootsweb.com writes: This is a follow-up on my earlier message, asking for help on the Google book site. I've found that if I put a full name, IN PARENTHESES, in the box that says "with all the words," then I can actually come up with some good hits. For example, I put "Jacob Coons" in the search, and came up with some interesting books. The downside is that I found some very enticing "clips," but not access to the books. In my quest to find out why, at the "Google Book Search Help Center" I found the answer to the copyright question: "Why can't I read the entire book? "Many of the books in Google Book Search come from authors and publishers who participate in our Partner Program. For these books, our partners decide how much of the book is browsable -- anywhere from a few sample pages to the whole book. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

There are at several "First Families." Try "America's First Families," or "First Families of Virginia." I belong to "First Families of Tennessee." One of the most prestigious is "The Society of the Cincinnati." etc, etc. J. Watkins Gailsline@aol.com wrote: I haven't really been keeping up but I think there might be a society for those who were the first settlers in Fauquier. Sorry -- not very helpful. Gail In a message dated 7/27/2008 8:42:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mseagle246@aol.com writes: Gail, If you thought your question was stupid then mine should top it.? What did you mean when you said "it would be really neat to join First Families"?? **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Germanna Foundation is in the process of establishing a certificate program of First Families of Fauquier to document the earliest familiies and to raise funds for programs related to the 250th Anniversary of Fauquier County next year.  We anticipate receiving a manuscript on the Germantown settlement (now in Faquier County, this is where the 1st Colony removed to in 1719-1720) from Don Tharpe in December 2008, which will be published as Germanna Record 19 to coincide with many celebrations and observances in Fauquier County in 2009.  Volunteers for this project would be welcome!  --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Gailsline@aol.com <Gailsline@aol.com> wrote: From: Gailsline@aol.com <Gailsline@aol.com> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Fauquier County 250th Anniversary, First Families of Fauquier To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 7:07 PM I haven't really been keeping up but I think there might be a society for those who were the first settlers in Fauquier. Sorry -- not very helpful. Gail In a message dated 7/27/2008 8:42:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mseagle246@aol.com writes: Gail, If you thought your question was stupid then mine should top it.? What did you mean when you said "it would be really neat to join First Families"?? **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe that Charles Hartley is correct, see the section below. -- John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Charles Hartley <hartley@iglou.com> > There appears to be an error in the posting below. I have separated > out the section that refers to the marriage of Henry Huffman and > Margaret Harnsberger. This posting seems to indicate that this was > the Henry Huffman of Little Fork. Margaret was married to the Henry > Huffman, son of the immigrant Henry who married Elizabeth Schuster. > This is according to Germanna Record #3, page 76. > > Am I correct in this? >

Jennie, This is a follow-up on my earlier message, asking for help on the Google book site. I've found that if I put a full name, IN PARENTHESES, in the box that says "with all the words," then I can actually come up with some good hits. For example, I put "Jacob Coons" in the search, and came up with some interesting books. The downside is that I found some very enticing "clips," but not access to the books. In my quest to find out why, at the "Google Book Search Help Center" I found the answer to the copyright question: "Why can't I read the entire book? "Many of the books in Google Book Search come from authors and publishers who participate in our Partner Program. For these books, our partners decide how much of the book is browsable -- anywhere from a few sample pages to the whole book. "For books that enter Book Search through the Library Project, what you see depends on the book's copyright status. We respect copyright law and the tremendous creative effort authors put into their work. If the book is in the public domain and therefore out of copyright, you can page through the entire book and even download it and read it offline. But if the book is under copyright, and the publisher or author is not part of the Partner Program, we only show basic information about the book, similar to a card catalog, and, in some cases, a few snippets -- sentences of your search terms in context. The aim of Google Book Search is to help you discover books and learn where to buy or borrow them, not read them online from start to finish. It's like going to a bookstore and browsing - with a Google twist." So, the bottom line seems to be: If the book is available on the site, then there's no copyright. So ENJOY! Marilyn S. -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Schwartz Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:07 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] GERMANNA_COLONIES Digest, Vol 3, Issue 239 Jennie, Help! I'm having trouble following your directions in searching for books. I went to the books.google.com, then to "advanced book search." I didn't see anywhere to click on "100 searches." Did you mean "100 results"? I also didn't see a place to enter "Name." I tried entering a name I've been researching, Knowlton, in the box that says, "with all of the words," and I got 100 books with no mention of the name IN the book, but by authors named Knowlton.

Jennie, Help! I'm having trouble following your directions in searching for books. I went to the books.google.com, then to "advanced book search." I didn't see anywhere to click on "100 searches." Did you mean "100 results"? I also didn't see a place to enter "Name." I tried entering a name I've been researching, Knowlton, in the box that says, "with all of the words," and I got 100 books with no mention of the name IN the book, but by authors named Knowlton. It sounds like you're having GREAT results, but I'm failing miserably! Please tell me what I'm doing wrong:-(. Marilyn S. -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenstwigs@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:26 AM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] GERMANNA_COLONIES Digest, Vol 3, Issue 239 Morning Sarge, My new best website friend for downloading full books for free in PDF format is at books.google.com There is a trick though...Go into "Advanced Search". Mark "100 Searches". Enter a "Name" and any other clue, like an author name. Mark "Full book".

There is a society . . . First Families of America . . . prove your ancestors were here before 1675 or so . . . don't remember the exact cut-off date. Google it . . . Jackie Collins ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gailsline@aol.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Fauquier County 250th Anniversary,First Families of Fauquier >I haven't really been keeping up but I think there might be > a society for those who were the first settlers in Fauquier. > Sorry -- not very helpful. > Gail > > > In a message dated 7/27/2008 8:42:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mseagle246@aol.com writes: > > Gail, If you thought your question was stupid then mine should top it.? > What > did you mean when you said "it would be really neat to join First > Families"?? > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I haven't really been keeping up but I think there might be a society for those who were the first settlers in Fauquier. Sorry -- not very helpful. Gail In a message dated 7/27/2008 8:42:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mseagle246@aol.com writes: Gail, If you thought your question was stupid then mine should top it.? What did you mean when you said "it would be really neat to join First Families"?? **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

There appears to be an error in the posting below. I have separated out the section that refers to the marriage of Henry Huffman and Margaret Harnsberger. This posting seems to indicate that this was the Henry Huffman of Little Fork. Margaret was married to the Henry Huffman, son of the immigrant Henry who married Elizabeth Schuster. This is according to Germanna Record #3, page 76. Am I correct in this? >(Originally posted on this List, 16 Dec 2002, by Thom Faircloth.) > >This is Day 6 of The Little Fork Colony by B. C. Holtzclaw as published in the >1960 Annual Report of The Germanna Foundation. > >7. Henry Huffman, Henry Huffman was certainly the John Henry Hoffman >of Brother >Gottschalk's report in 1748., brother of Matthew Hoffman of Bethlehem, PA. He >is not to be confused (as has been done in the past) with John Hoffman of the >1714 Colony, who moved to the neighborhood of the Lutheran group >about 1729 and >is said to have founded "Hoffman's Chapel" of the Reformed faith there. He is >almost certainly the Hans Heinrich Hoffman who landed at Philadelphia in 1734. >On June 25, 1741, Henry Huffman (also called Hans Henry) administered on the >estate of John Huffman, decd., in Orange Co. (W.B. 1, p. 155; O. B. >2, p. 400). >John Huffman was probably his father or another brother who had come over from >Nassau-Siegen. Mr. Huffman accumulated a considerable amount of land in the >Little Fork, as shown by deeds from William Deatherage in 1747, >Jacob Holtzclaw >in 1748, George Wayman in 1760, and a grant in 1768 (Orange Co. D. B. 11, pp. >48 and 83; Culpeper D. B. "C", p. 284; N. N. Grants, "O", p. 153). ===== >A deed June >21, 1770, shows that his wife was Margaret Harnsberger, daughter of Stephen >Harnsberger and granddaughter of John Harnsberger and Anna Purva his wife of >the 1717 colony (Culpeper D. B. "F", p. 96). ===== > Henry Huffman died in Culpeper Co. >in 1783. His will, dated April 15, 1967, and probated Sept. 15, 1783 (Culpeper >W. B. "C", pp. 30-33), mentions his wife Margaret; son-in-law John Young; sons >Tillman, John, Henry, Joseph, and Harmon; daughters Elizabeth (m. John Young), >Mary, Alice, Susannah, and Eve Huffman. The daughter Alice became the second >wife of James Spilman. Professor Hackley is descended from them.

Suzanne, Do you have any data on the family of William and Mary Ann Crockett Green's families? Mary Broyles, daughter of Adam Broyles, Jr. b. 07 Oct 1781 in Randolph Co, NC and Rosina Broyles. This family moved to Washington Co, TN. Mary Broyles married Ira Green b. 1779 and they had nine children. There are several marriages in East Tennessee of Green/Greene families. -----Original Message----- >From: Suzanne Matson <holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com> >Sent: Jul 27, 2008 7:58 PM >To: Germanna Colonies <GERMANNA_COLONIES@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [GERMANNA] James Crockett and Ann Kemper > >Searching for the parents of Ann Kemper who married James Crockett.  Their daughter, Mary Ann ( b. abt 1770 d. bef. Dec 1804), married William Green (b. abt 1770 d. Dec 1804).  William Green was a brother of Alice Green who married Stephen Holtzclaw. >Suzanne Collins Matson > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry this was not meant for the list -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Debby Cavalcante Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:07 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] GERMANNA_COLONIES Digest, Vol 3, Issue 239 http://books.google.com/books?id=eFtMAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=%22germanna%22#PPP1,M1 -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenstwigs@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:26 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] GERMANNA_COLONIES Digest, Vol 3, Issue 239 Morning Sarge, I do not know if the (3) books are still copyrighted or not. I don't think they are. They were printed in 1914, 1926 and 1929 and far as I can tell out of print and no longer available for purchase unless you luck up finding a very old copy. The 1914 volume is available in many libraries but not for checking out of the library. I bought two of my CD copies several years ago (2003 & 2004) from a printing company that scanned old books onto CD. The other one (1929) I downloaded picture page by page and then scanned them into a PDF file for myself and some other researchers. I then just recently downloaded the 1914 volume due to the pictures were much better in the digitized PDF that I found online for FREE. I have always felt funny selling CDs to others especially when I like to share any info that might help others in their research and I don't like making money off others who are trying to research their families without spending a fortune doing it. So, I just charge the fee of mailing and I can mail any way the person would like. I recently mailed a CD to Australia. My new best website friend for downloading full books for free in PDF format is at books.google.com There is a trick though...Go into "Advanced Search". Mark "100 Searches". Enter a "Name" and any other clue, like an author name. Mark "Full book". You will be shocked as to how many books are out their that mention the Fishback family. There is one book that I found on Abraham Lincoln where he writes to his old lawyer William M. Fishback (Gov. of Arkansas). I have found books on almost all my family lines that I am researching (even one called "Genealogical and Historical Notes on Culpeper County, Virginia" Published 1900) They are big files, big books, so be prepared. I keep flash drives (256MB, 1GB and 2GB) with me at all times. When I am not busy at work, my bosses allow me to do my family research (I think they get as excited as I do when I find that missing fella or gal that I have been looking for), so when I find something I can download it onto my stick and transfer it to my home computer or a CD later. Another thing I have done is if I see a book on ancestry or some other site I then immediately go and check to see if I can download it from books.google.com for FREE!! (I just looked at books.google.com and they do write on that the 1914 book copyright has expire) Anyway, send me your address to _JensTwigs@aol.com_ (mailto:JensTwigs@aol.com) and I will be happy to get a cd out to you ASAP if you would like one. Jennie In a message dated 7/28/2008 3:19:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, germanna_colonies-request@rootsweb.com writes: What a nice offer! First, are any of the 3 books still copyrighted? If not, I would love to have a PDF file for all of them. This would be great to add to the website for the 1st and 2nd Germanna Colonies (unofficial), on a separate page, listed in the Index on the Home Page. The reason I mention copyright is that if such has been renewed, we couldn't copy the data and put on the website; however, if there is no copyright, "fair game". Thanks, Sarge **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://books.google.com/books?id=eFtMAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=%22germanna%22#PPP1,M1 Debby Cavalcante TBA LLC, Payroll Ph: 502-364-9313 Fx: 502-361-3946 debby.cavalcante@tballc.com -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jenstwigs@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:26 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] GERMANNA_COLONIES Digest, Vol 3, Issue 239 Morning Sarge, I do not know if the (3) books are still copyrighted or not. I don't think they are. They were printed in 1914, 1926 and 1929 and far as I can tell out of print and no longer available for purchase unless you luck up finding a very old copy. The 1914 volume is available in many libraries but not for checking out of the library. I bought two of my CD copies several years ago (2003 & 2004) from a printing company that scanned old books onto CD. The other one (1929) I downloaded picture page by page and then scanned them into a PDF file for myself and some other researchers. I then just recently downloaded the 1914 volume due to the pictures were much better in the digitized PDF that I found online for FREE. I have always felt funny selling CDs to others especially when I like to share any info that might help others in their research and I don't like making money off others who are trying to research their families without spending a fortune doing it. So, I just charge the fee of mailing and I can mail any way the person would like. I recently mailed a CD to Australia. My new best website friend for downloading full books for free in PDF format is at books.google.com There is a trick though...Go into "Advanced Search". Mark "100 Searches". Enter a "Name" and any other clue, like an author name. Mark "Full book". You will be shocked as to how many books are out their that mention the Fishback family. There is one book that I found on Abraham Lincoln where he writes to his old lawyer William M. Fishback (Gov. of Arkansas). I have found books on almost all my family lines that I am researching (even one called "Genealogical and Historical Notes on Culpeper County, Virginia" Published 1900) They are big files, big books, so be prepared. I keep flash drives (256MB, 1GB and 2GB) with me at all times. When I am not busy at work, my bosses allow me to do my family research (I think they get as excited as I do when I find that missing fella or gal that I have been looking for), so when I find something I can download it onto my stick and transfer it to my home computer or a CD later. Another thing I have done is if I see a book on ancestry or some other site I then immediately go and check to see if I can download it from books.google.com for FREE!! (I just looked at books.google.com and they do write on that the 1914 book copyright has expire) Anyway, send me your address to _JensTwigs@aol.com_ (mailto:JensTwigs@aol.com) and I will be happy to get a cd out to you ASAP if you would like one. Jennie In a message dated 7/28/2008 3:19:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, germanna_colonies-request@rootsweb.com writes: What a nice offer! First, are any of the 3 books still copyrighted? If not, I would love to have a PDF file for all of them. This would be great to add to the website for the 1st and 2nd Germanna Colonies (unofficial), on a separate page, listed in the Index on the Home Page. The reason I mention copyright is that if such has been renewed, we couldn't copy the data and put on the website; however, if there is no copyright, "fair game". Thanks, Sarge **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message