The Wilheit/Wilhoit family enjoyed a day (Thursday) of touring and a great dinner at a home near Ashland, Va. maybe three years ago. That was especially enjoyable as it gave me a chance to get to know some of my "cousins" before beginning the reunion activities. That made the reunion much more enjoyable. Some of us come from other states and really do not know the local cousins and Foundation officers. I come for the good history I hear at the event. Maybe families could gather on Thursday or Friday evenings for group dinners rather than have the bar-be-que. And, the Friday tours might be cut a bit shorter. The Second Colony Tour seemed a bit long this year. I wish the Auction could begin sooner on Saturday night. Maybe a few of the items to be auctioned could be on view in the Vendors area on Saturday. Possibly two, three or four selected items could be on a silent auction table during the day on Saturday. Biding time could be cut off for any item any time and this would be a surprise so people would want to get their bids in before bidding closes. Then the winners could be announced at the end of the last Saturday afternoon session. I think the mini-camp for children is a great idea. I enjoyed all of the speakers. I do not connect to the family, but certainly enjoyed the good history in John's presentation. Since he had been discussed on this site, I think that made it more interesting. I enjoyed the Sunday morning speaker and would not have wanted to miss that, but the day did drag out a bit and lunch was not terribly exciting. I can remember better times. My appreciation to those who worked so hard to make the reunion events happen.

I have helped organize and run large events, reunions, parties, and fund raising for numerous organizations. Boys and Girls Clubs, Jaycees, Junior Achievement, Fair Associations, National Hot Rod Association, Ducks Unlimited and many others. While events all cost money, they don't necessarily have to cost the participants. Fund raising is an entirely different topic and my point is mixing the "reunion" with these aspects does not get the best result for either party. I totally understand the aspects of both. Fund raising and generating some sort of revenue should be all year long as Germanna Foundation is a worthy cause and needs much more then what reunion participants can pull from pockets over a weekend. In my opinion, fund raising should help sponsor and bring more "families" to the reunion. I suspect we all know someone, a family member or "cousin", that would like to attend but couldn't afford it this year, or last, or next year. Knowing that there are thousands of family members that are out there and many simply don't even know about Germanna is what drives me. I have been a Rector for 44 years, and known about Germanna for only 4 years. I have met a dozen people just this last year that are Germanna decedents and didn't know about it either. The worthy mention from Barb was growing membership. Would you rather see a single dollar admission come in from 10,000 various family members participating then or the $500 or so that might come in from the couple hundred (less then 200) that attend the current annual event? I would. Hint - you earn the same amount with both efforts but I guarantee that the end results to be much different from attracting the larger mass. My math is a illustration example - you can work the actuals. With proper planning all the costs can of running an event such as this and feeding people can be covered. Every dime and then some. Heck, for about 6 years in a row I helped feed a several hundred homeless people at Thanksgiving as a member of the Jaycees. Parallel we raised money for the shelter but the participants were not the target donors. Fund raising was separate. I am confident that the organization could feed and cover costs for the "reunion" aspect if we had 10,000 members. :) And it wouldn't be from charging $30 a plate. Plan - Work - Sustain. The first step to success is "planning". I will give the floor back to the rootsweb team and genealogy aspects they discuss. I "read' posts here daily, most of the time from my Blackberry wireless device during the day, and do not participate in responses as I don't have much to offer to those topics. I felt compelled to respond to this topic. Jay Rector Rally the Rectors! ----- Original Message ----- From: <RockCatt@aol.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com>; <jay@4046603282.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Suggestions for the Reunion > John B, Jay and Michael-- > > You have all captured what the Foundation calls "the Reunion." I recall > your suggestion, Michael, that we change the name of this annual event > and I > agree, as do many others. > > John B, you bring up something that I have sorely missed over the last > couple of years--the gathering of cousins. I remember 2 years ago that > Bill and > Susan Holtzclaw organized an incredibly wonderful Holtzclaw Reunion. > There > were about 20-30 of us, all Holtzclaw descendants, sharing stories at > Napoleon's restaurant over a delicious dinner prepared by the German > chef. We had > already been out to the little cemetery at Ashland/Ashlawn together, a > very > emotional experience to be sure. It was emotional even though the > Holtzclaws in > that cemetery are not my ancestors! This is something that we need to > keep > doing. Skip Poole, a Clore descendant, has a get together every year in > conjunction with the Reunion. > > Jay, your suggestions about the watermelon eating contest and the sack > races > is something that we, both the Foundation and the Association, have been > considering adding to the schedule, perhaps even a family picnic. If > you've > ever read the accounts of the history of the Germanna Foundation, you've > probably seen the photographs of BC Holtzclaw leaning on a podium, outside > at the > annual picnic, with the families gathered around. With the heat at this > time > of the year, tents might be a good option as there aren't enough trees, > but > don't be surprised if you see this as an option. I might add, too, that > both > the Foundation and the Association appreciate suggestions and comments. > Those > can be directed to: _office@germanna.org_ (mailto:office@germanna.org) > Perhaps in the near future we will have email capability to all of the > Trustees, > Association Board members and the various committees--but, that costs > money, > too! > > Michael, thank you so much for the reminder of the responsibility that the > Germanna Foundation has in it's hands in relation to the various > properties > that we own, which we take very seriously. At the present, we are > responsible > for the care and maintenance of Salubria, an 18th century Georgian mansion > and > the Visitors Center and surrounding property. All of these properties > require funds in order to maintain them properly. We also have an office > staff > at the Visitors Center and we're responsible for their salaries. We > couldn't > operate without them. Thus, we have to raise money! > > Not only does the Foundation have to maintain the above and pay salaries > in > order to keep the Visitors Center open, but we also have to pay for the > publishing of publications and the newsletter that is sent out to our > members. > > I would argue with you, Jay, that the Reunion itself is a fund raiser, as > the main way that we raise funds is through our membership, which needs > to > grow and grow! The Reunion does not raise money, it costs money!! I > view the > Reunion as just that, a reunion of people with a commonality that goes > back > hundreds of years and just a few years. I look forward to the Reunion > because > I know that I will see some of my cousins, I will see fellow travelers to > Germany and I will meet new people. The difference between the Germanna > Reunion > and a traditional reunion is that we are gathering people from more than > 50 > families, not just one or two, so the focus is on their shared > experience. > > Just my two cents.....Barb Price > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/5/2008 07:36:54 Pacific Daylight Time, > oddlaw@pacbell.net writes: > > I take a slightly different position in that I believe that Germanna is > different from other "family reunions." Few "family reunions" own a > large tract of property and even fewer have a stewardship over a > significant part of American history that reaches beyond mere family > members. The goals of most "family reunions" would be fellowship, fun > and refreshing family ties. Germanna is charged with a more expansive > duty owing to the unique history of the "Germanna family." I do agree > that a name change is appropriate and my suggestion is "The Germanna > Historical Conference and Annual Reunion." This more accurately > reflects the heritage and actual operation of the annual Germanna event. > > As for the fund raising element, it is simply necessary to sustain the > many obligations of Germanna, which unlike most "family reunions" must > sustain expenses on a year-round basis with the operation of the > visitor's center and website. Personally, I find Germanna's fund > raising activities to be very benign. Vendors selling items of interest > to those who attend and the auctions are for many people are attractive > elements of the Germanna annual event. > > As for the genealogy, it is my impression that it ties in neatly with > the essential mission of Germanna and is an important part of the "soul > of Germanna." Anyone who attended this year's conference and heard John > Blankenbaker's fascinating account of Urban Tanner, or Katherine Brown's > superb presentation on the women of Germanna, or Barb Price's insightful > unveiling of the history of Ashlawn (Ashland) could not help but be > impressed by the rich offerings of the Germanna experience. I say this > as one who has no known relation to Urban Tanner, am not a woman (though > I confess to soft spot in my heart for women), and who has no family > ties to the Ashlawn (Ashland) property or families. These were just > exceptional presentations that enhanced one's appreciation for the > context of one's own family history. > > Also, anyone who heard Marc Wheat's discussion of Germanna and the > exciting plans for the future of Germanna could not help but be inspired > by being a part of such a worthy enterprise. Fund raising will be an > important part of fulfilling the many opportunities that Germanna > possesses. > > The Sunday morning experience with Dr. William Kelso of Jamestown also > provided a marvelous look at the context of how our ancestors were able > to come to this country and how the path was cut. > > Germanna is more than just a family reunion and we should all celebrate > that fact. Of course, that's not to say we can't have some sack races > and watermelon eating contests as part of the festivities! > > Best wishes to all, Michael L. Oddenino > > Jay Rector wrote: >> Germanna is the first "reunion" I have ever attend where the primary >> focus > is fund raising. Very sad. >> >> While fund raising is a necessary activity for the organization the > reunion of familes, in my opinion, should be at minimal costs, and > "family" > oriented. Otherwise it isn't a family reunion at all. It is currently > what it is > - an annual fundraiser. >> >> Another issue with the manner of this Germanna Reunion is that the >> events > and activities seem to be focused on genealogy. While many of you are > "genealogy" oriented, most of the family decendents are not. We are > "family > members" with a common heritage. Where is the sack race and watermellon > eating > contest! Who has a story of family member success that can be shared > with > other family member and "Germanna cousins". Who graduated High School, > College > or has a new job, or maybe needs one? These are things that my family > reunions have on their agenda. >> >> These aspects of fund raising and genealogy need to take a back seat at >> a > family reunion, or rename the event. >> >> Sigh... >> >> Plan - Work - Sustain. >> >> >> Jay Rector - 4046603282.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: john.blankenbaker@comcast.net >> >> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:32:41 >> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [GERMANNA] Suggestions for the Reunion >> >> >> >> To Michael's excellent suggestions, let me add one. >> >> Reunions mean more when a good sized contingent of people from one >> family > attend. I, for one, would volunteer to help provide a special event > program > outside of the usual activities. In particular, I am thinking of the year > that > 19 Ambergers came early. We met before the commencement of formal > activities > and they listened to a discussion by me before we went out to visit the > two > land patents that Conrad Amberger had. Then we went to Hebron and the > town of > Madison. We concluded the day with a dinner in Madison. In total we spent > about five hours on the activities. I think the group had a good time that > was > informative. >> >> This was before the time that we had Friday tours. Still, having >> something > tailored to one's own family is especially interesting. It would remain > to > be seen how we could merge all of the activities but the aim would be to > have > something special for the family. >> >> How do get the ball rolling? Principally it would depend on a person > within the family who would organize the family and promote the idea. At > the > moment, I would volunteer to help if the group could trust that the creek > doesn't > rise too high. 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John B, Jay and Michael-- You have all captured what the Foundation calls "the Reunion." I recall your suggestion, Michael, that we change the name of this annual event and I agree, as do many others. John B, you bring up something that I have sorely missed over the last couple of years--the gathering of cousins. I remember 2 years ago that Bill and Susan Holtzclaw organized an incredibly wonderful Holtzclaw Reunion. There were about 20-30 of us, all Holtzclaw descendants, sharing stories at Napoleon's restaurant over a delicious dinner prepared by the German chef. We had already been out to the little cemetery at Ashland/Ashlawn together, a very emotional experience to be sure. It was emotional even though the Holtzclaws in that cemetery are not my ancestors! This is something that we need to keep doing. Skip Poole, a Clore descendant, has a get together every year in conjunction with the Reunion. Jay, your suggestions about the watermelon eating contest and the sack races is something that we, both the Foundation and the Association, have been considering adding to the schedule, perhaps even a family picnic. If you've ever read the accounts of the history of the Germanna Foundation, you've probably seen the photographs of BC Holtzclaw leaning on a podium, outside at the annual picnic, with the families gathered around. With the heat at this time of the year, tents might be a good option as there aren't enough trees, but don't be surprised if you see this as an option. I might add, too, that both the Foundation and the Association appreciate suggestions and comments. Those can be directed to: _office@germanna.org_ (mailto:office@germanna.org) Perhaps in the near future we will have email capability to all of the Trustees, Association Board members and the various committees--but, that costs money, too! Michael, thank you so much for the reminder of the responsibility that the Germanna Foundation has in it's hands in relation to the various properties that we own, which we take very seriously. At the present, we are responsible for the care and maintenance of Salubria, an 18th century Georgian mansion and the Visitors Center and surrounding property. All of these properties require funds in order to maintain them properly. We also have an office staff at the Visitors Center and we're responsible for their salaries. We couldn't operate without them. Thus, we have to raise money! Not only does the Foundation have to maintain the above and pay salaries in order to keep the Visitors Center open, but we also have to pay for the publishing of publications and the newsletter that is sent out to our members. I would argue with you, Jay, that the Reunion itself is a fund raiser, as the main way that we raise funds is through our membership, which needs to grow and grow! The Reunion does not raise money, it costs money!! I view the Reunion as just that, a reunion of people with a commonality that goes back hundreds of years and just a few years. I look forward to the Reunion because I know that I will see some of my cousins, I will see fellow travelers to Germany and I will meet new people. The difference between the Germanna Reunion and a traditional reunion is that we are gathering people from more than 50 families, not just one or two, so the focus is on their shared experience. Just my two cents.....Barb Price In a message dated 8/5/2008 07:36:54 Pacific Daylight Time, oddlaw@pacbell.net writes: I take a slightly different position in that I believe that Germanna is different from other "family reunions." Few "family reunions" own a large tract of property and even fewer have a stewardship over a significant part of American history that reaches beyond mere family members. The goals of most "family reunions" would be fellowship, fun and refreshing family ties. Germanna is charged with a more expansive duty owing to the unique history of the "Germanna family." I do agree that a name change is appropriate and my suggestion is "The Germanna Historical Conference and Annual Reunion." This more accurately reflects the heritage and actual operation of the annual Germanna event. As for the fund raising element, it is simply necessary to sustain the many obligations of Germanna, which unlike most "family reunions" must sustain expenses on a year-round basis with the operation of the visitor's center and website. Personally, I find Germanna's fund raising activities to be very benign. Vendors selling items of interest to those who attend and the auctions are for many people are attractive elements of the Germanna annual event. As for the genealogy, it is my impression that it ties in neatly with the essential mission of Germanna and is an important part of the "soul of Germanna." Anyone who attended this year's conference and heard John Blankenbaker's fascinating account of Urban Tanner, or Katherine Brown's superb presentation on the women of Germanna, or Barb Price's insightful unveiling of the history of Ashlawn (Ashland) could not help but be impressed by the rich offerings of the Germanna experience. I say this as one who has no known relation to Urban Tanner, am not a woman (though I confess to soft spot in my heart for women), and who has no family ties to the Ashlawn (Ashland) property or families. These were just exceptional presentations that enhanced one's appreciation for the context of one's own family history. Also, anyone who heard Marc Wheat's discussion of Germanna and the exciting plans for the future of Germanna could not help but be inspired by being a part of such a worthy enterprise. Fund raising will be an important part of fulfilling the many opportunities that Germanna possesses. The Sunday morning experience with Dr. William Kelso of Jamestown also provided a marvelous look at the context of how our ancestors were able to come to this country and how the path was cut. Germanna is more than just a family reunion and we should all celebrate that fact. Of course, that's not to say we can't have some sack races and watermelon eating contests as part of the festivities! Best wishes to all, Michael L. Oddenino Jay Rector wrote: > Germanna is the first "reunion" I have ever attend where the primary focus is fund raising. Very sad. > > While fund raising is a necessary activity for the organization the reunion of familes, in my opinion, should be at minimal costs, and "family" oriented. Otherwise it isn't a family reunion at all. It is currently what it is - an annual fundraiser. > > Another issue with the manner of this Germanna Reunion is that the events and activities seem to be focused on genealogy. While many of you are "genealogy" oriented, most of the family decendents are not. We are "family members" with a common heritage. Where is the sack race and watermellon eating contest! Who has a story of family member success that can be shared with other family member and "Germanna cousins". Who graduated High School, College or has a new job, or maybe needs one? These are things that my family reunions have on their agenda. > > These aspects of fund raising and genealogy need to take a back seat at a family reunion, or rename the event. > > Sigh... > > Plan - Work - Sustain. > > > Jay Rector - 4046603282.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: john.blankenbaker@comcast.net > > Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:32:41 > To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [GERMANNA] Suggestions for the Reunion > > > > To Michael's excellent suggestions, let me add one. > > Reunions mean more when a good sized contingent of people from one family attend. I, for one, would volunteer to help provide a special event program outside of the usual activities. In particular, I am thinking of the year that 19 Ambergers came early. We met before the commencement of formal activities and they listened to a discussion by me before we went out to visit the two land patents that Conrad Amberger had. Then we went to Hebron and the town of Madison. We concluded the day with a dinner in Madison. In total we spent about five hours on the activities. I think the group had a good time that was informative. > > This was before the time that we had Friday tours. Still, having something tailored to one's own family is especially interesting. It would remain to be seen how we could merge all of the activities but the aim would be to have something special for the family. > > How do get the ball rolling? Principally it would depend on a person within the family who would organize the family and promote the idea. At the moment, I would volunteer to help if the group could trust that the creek doesn't rise too high. 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The Amberger descendants made a great effort to be at Germanna this year, and I think it was a richly meaningful one for them because far-flung branches were all present.  Some of the families (like my Rectors and Haegers) were a little thin on the ground, but we were able to make a pretty nice lunch table of it.  I remember when the Hitt and the Stonecipher families would organize in the year leading up to the reunion, and then meet in conjunction with some of the other Germanna events.    I like John Blankenbaker's idea of helping these families build mini-reunions within seminar and reunion schedules, and I'm sure there are quite a number of potential volunteers who could help with tours to family places in the Germanna heartland. --- On Tue, 8/5/08, HART FRANK <FRANKH@bsc.bluefieldstate.edu> wrote: From: HART FRANK <FRANKH@bsc.bluefieldstate.edu> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Suggestions for the Reunion To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 3:19 PM I agree with John. I am an Amberger, and we should have had a better group meeting at this reunion. We are planning on a subAmbergey meeting in conjunction with the annual Ambergey Family Association meeting next year. Our subgroup will meet on Saturday morning and afternoon, then join the AFA meeting for Saturday evening and Sunday. I do like the Saturday and Sunday sessions at Germanna. Frank Hart -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john.blankenbaker@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:33 AM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANNA] Suggestions for the Reunion To Michael's excellent suggestions, let me add one. Reunions mean more when a good sized contingent of people from one family attend. I, for one, would volunteer to help provide a special event program outside of the usual activities. In particular, I am thinking of the year that 19 Ambergers came early. We met before the commencement of formal activities and they listened to a discussion by me before we went out to visit the two land patents that Conrad Amberger had. Then we went to Hebron and the town of Madison. We concluded the day with a dinner in Madison. In total we spent about five hours on the activities. I think the group had a good time that was informative. This was before the time that we had Friday tours. Still, having something tailored to one's own family is especially interesting. It would remain to be seen how we could merge all of the activities but the aim would be to have something special for the family. How do get the ball rolling? Principally it would depend on a person within the family who would organize the family and promote the idea. At the moment, I would volunteer to help if the group could trust that the creek doesn't rise too high. So contact the Foundation or me if your family is interested. -- John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This reminds me of how we run things in the Mayflower Society. There is the General Society Mayflower Descendants, for all the descendants of the passengers on the ship. (i.e. the Germanna Colony). And there are also family societies for each passenger, .... Bradford Society, Warren Cousins, etc. I am in the Warren Cousins and Pilgrim John Howland Society. The Howland Society meets every single year in Plymouth Mass since 1897 in August. Every three years is the meeting for the General Society so we move the date of the Howland meeting every third year to coincide with the "big" group since many Howlands are also descendants of several other passengers, just like most Germanna folks have more than one family name. The Howland Society owns the Howland House, built 1667 in Plymouth, Rock Nook -- many acres of land where Howland lived until he died in 1672 and where some of his sons and grandsons lived, and a 17th century reproduction shallop we sail all over, so this group knows about needing money. We do very little fundraising at our annual meeting. On Friday night we have a banquet and a guest speaker. Sat. morning is the business meeting followed by a wreath laying at Howlands gravesite. There are some other activities but the only fundraising we do at our annual gathering is a silent auction at the banquet and we just started that about three years ago. Every third year when the "big" group meets, Plymouth is a busy place and the General Society has bus trips all over Plymouth, Boston etc etc. The only fundraising is the articles for sale at the hotel. Sorry to bring up all this Yankee stuff.... but it just sounded so similar with the whole society and the individual family groups. Our main fundraising in the Howland Soc. is in the annual dues envelope -- it has a line for dues, Howland House, Rocky Nook and the shallop so you can give to whichever you want to. Once every few years we might put a call out in our Howland Quarterly which goes to all our members. We are not that big -- only about 1400 in the Howland Society. Gail Ann Adams Wilhoite/Broyles/Seaton etc. Editor of the Howland Quarterly In beautiful northern Virginia **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Good comments Michael and I think we are in agreement. My point was to open the "reunion" or Sunday activity aspect towards more fellowship and family interaction. And lower the costs so that the family can actually attend. At $30 a plate the Sunday "reunion" prohibited my wife and kids from attending. Heck, I'm up for pot luck and everyone brings something.. I totally agree with the comments of the necessary stewardship and needing to fund those endevors of the Foundation. Its a great responsibility, and opportunity. While I enjoy the "Historical Conference" aspects of this event the past couple of years, the rest of my family hasn't. My "suggestion" thus is to grow the family and reunion aspects parallel to the historical conference. They do fit nicely and timing of both together is very beneficial. Jay Rector - 4046603282.com -----Original Message----- From: "Michael L. Oddenino" <oddlaw@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:36:28 To: <jay@4046603282.com>; <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Suggestions for the Reunion I take a slightly different position in that I believe that Germanna is different from other "family reunions." Few "family reunions" own a large tract of property and even fewer have a stewardship over a significant part of American history that reaches beyond mere family members. The goals of most "family reunions" would be fellowship, fun and refreshing family ties. Germanna is charged with a more expansive duty owing to the unique history of the "Germanna family." I do agree that a name change is appropriate and my suggestion is "The Germanna Historical Conference and Annual Reunion." This more accurately reflects the heritage and actual operation of the annual Germanna event. As for the fund raising element, it is simply necessary to sustain the many obligations of Germanna, which unlike most "family reunions" must sustain expenses on a year-round basis with the operation of the visitor's center and website. Personally, I find Germanna's fund raising activities to be very benign. Vendors selling items of interest to those who attend and the auctions are for many people are attractive elements of the Germanna annual event. As for the genealogy, it is my impression that it ties in neatly with the essential mission of Germanna and is an important part of the "soul of Germanna." Anyone who attended this year's conference and heard John Blankenbaker's fascinating account of Urban Tanner, or Katherine Brown's superb presentation on the women of Germanna, or Barb Price's insightful unveiling of the history of Ashlawn (Ashland) could not help but be impressed by the rich offerings of the Germanna experience. I say this as one who has no known relation to Urban Tanner, am not a woman (though I confess to soft spot in my heart for women), and who has no family ties to the Ashlawn (Ashland) property or families. These were just exceptional presentations that enhanced one's appreciation for the context of one's own family history. Also, anyone who heard Marc Wheat's discussion of Germanna and the exciting plans for the future of Germanna could not help but be inspired by being a part of such a worthy enterprise. Fund raising will be an important part of fulfilling the many opportunities that Germanna possesses. The Sunday morning experience with Dr. William Kelso of Jamestown also provided a marvelous look at the context of how our ancestors were able to come to this country and how the path was cut. Germanna is more than just a family reunion and we should all celebrate that fact. Of course, that's not to say we can't have some sack races and watermelon eating contests as part of the festivities! Best wishes to all, Michael L. Oddenino Jay Rector wrote: > Germanna is the first "reunion" I have ever attend where the primary focus is fund raising. Very sad. > > While fund raising is a necessary activity for the organization the reunion of familes, in my opinion, should be at minimal costs, and "family" oriented. Otherwise it isn't a family reunion at all. It is currently what it is - an annual fundraiser. > > Another issue with the manner of this Germanna Reunion is that the events and activities seem to be focused on genealogy. While many of you are "genealogy" oriented, most of the family decendents are not. We are "family members" with a common heritage. Where is the sack race and watermellon eating contest! Who has a story of family member success that can be shared with other family member and "Germanna cousins". Who graduated High School, College or has a new job, or maybe needs one? These are things that my family reunions have on their agenda. > > These aspects of fund raising and genealogy need to take a back seat at a family reunion, or rename the event. > > Sigh... > > Plan - Work - Sustain. > > > Jay Rector - 4046603282.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: john.blankenbaker@comcast.net > > Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:32:41 > To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [GERMANNA] Suggestions for the Reunion > > > > To Michael's excellent suggestions, let me add one. > > Reunions mean more when a good sized contingent of people from one family attend. I, for one, would volunteer to help provide a special event program outside of the usual activities. In particular, I am thinking of the year that 19 Ambergers came early. We met before the commencement of formal activities and they listened to a discussion by me before we went out to visit the two land patents that Conrad Amberger had. Then we went to Hebron and the town of Madison. We concluded the day with a dinner in Madison. In total we spent about five hours on the activities. I think the group had a good time that was informative. > > This was before the time that we had Friday tours. Still, having something tailored to one's own family is especially interesting. It would remain to be seen how we could merge all of the activities but the aim would be to have something special for the family. > > How do get the ball rolling? Principally it would depend on a person within the family who would organize the family and promote the idea. At the moment, I would volunteer to help if the group could trust that the creek doesn't rise too high. So contact the Foundation or me if your family is interested. > -- > John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3328 (20080805) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In case anyone has tried to email me, my internet connection has been down for almost a week. A greedy "registry repair" utility ate the Windows Registry files and I haven't been able to get on- line. If anyone has sent me data to be placed in the "1st and 2nd Germanna Colonies" database, please be patient. I am behind hundreds of emails and will get around to them as soon as possible. Regards, Sarge

My daughter sent this to me about a (somewhat expensive) program in Frederick County, MD, and I thought it might be of interest to others. Virginia Nuta ----- Original Message ----- From: Brigid Howe To: Virginia Nuta Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:05 AM Subject: German colonial heritage event.... History Symposium: Backcountry Dutch: German Colonial Heritage Friday, September 12, 9:00 a.m.-3:15 p.m. Frederick Community College Cougar Café The Historical Society's fourth annual History Symposium is presented in conjunction with the new exhibit, Backcountry Dutch: German Heritage and Decorative Arts in Frederick County. Speakers scheduled to speak at this year's symposium are: Dr. Elizabeth Kessel, "Germans on the Maryland Frontier: A Social History of Frederick County, 1730-1800;" C. Robert Harrison, "Frederick County Decorative Arts and the Pennsylvania German Cultural Tradition;" Corinne Earnest, "The Outer Rings: The Fraktur Tradition as it Spread Beyond Southeast Pennsylvania;" and Ray Wright, "German Colonial Architecture in the Shenandoah Valley: The Bowman House of Rockingham County." For a registration form with more information, click here. For more inrofmation, call 301-663-1188 or e-mail eseagraves@hsfcinfo.org. Registration (including lunch) is $85, members are $75.

I agree with John. I am an Amberger, and we should have had a better group meeting at this reunion. We are planning on a subAmbergey meeting in conjunction with the annual Ambergey Family Association meeting next year. Our subgroup will meet on Saturday morning and afternoon, then join the AFA meeting for Saturday evening and Sunday. I do like the Saturday and Sunday sessions at Germanna. Frank Hart -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john.blankenbaker@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 6:33 AM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANNA] Suggestions for the Reunion To Michael's excellent suggestions, let me add one. Reunions mean more when a good sized contingent of people from one family attend. I, for one, would volunteer to help provide a special event program outside of the usual activities. In particular, I am thinking of the year that 19 Ambergers came early. We met before the commencement of formal activities and they listened to a discussion by me before we went out to visit the two land patents that Conrad Amberger had. Then we went to Hebron and the town of Madison. We concluded the day with a dinner in Madison. In total we spent about five hours on the activities. I think the group had a good time that was informative. This was before the time that we had Friday tours. Still, having something tailored to one's own family is especially interesting. It would remain to be seen how we could merge all of the activities but the aim would be to have something special for the family. How do get the ball rolling? Principally it would depend on a person within the family who would organize the family and promote the idea. At the moment, I would volunteer to help if the group could trust that the creek doesn't rise too high. So contact the Foundation or me if your family is interested. -- John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, Germanna is different from the traditional family reunion in that it seems we have a "critical mass" of descendants of MANY families which can support the Visitor Center, the publications, and the activities, and keep them going. While many of us develop friendships with our cousins, it's not the sort of family relationship we have within our more immediate families. I would not be surprised if we were fairly unique with our groups of families who shared a common immigration experience and who lived together and intermarried for scores of years, if not a century. I sometimes wonder if a DNA analysis of Germanna descendants would not be helpful to medical science, like the Icelanders. We had a lot of fun at the reunion comparing the Clore eyebrows and the Wilhoit/Wilhite forehead. Virginia Nuta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael L. Oddenino" <oddlaw@pacbell.net> To: <jay@4046603282.com>; <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Suggestions for the Reunion >I take a slightly different position in that I believe that Germanna is > different from other "family reunions." Few "family reunions" own a > large tract of property and even fewer have a stewardship over a > significant part of American history that reaches beyond mere family > members. The goals of most "family reunions" would be fellowship, fun > and refreshing family ties. Germanna is charged with a more expansive > duty owing to the unique history of the "Germanna family." I do agree > that a name change is appropriate and my suggestion is "The Germanna > Historical Conference and Annual Reunion." This more accurately > reflects the heritage and actual operation of the annual Germanna event. > > As for the fund raising element, it is simply necessary to sustain the > many obligations of Germanna, which unlike most "family reunions" must > sustain expenses on a year-round basis with the operation of the > visitor's center and website. Personally, I find Germanna's fund > raising activities to be very benign. Vendors selling items of interest > to those who attend and the auctions are for many people are attractive > elements of the Germanna annual event. > > As for the genealogy, it is my impression that it ties in neatly with > the essential mission of Germanna and is an important part of the "soul > of Germanna." Anyone who attended this year's conference and heard John > Blankenbaker's fascinating account of Urban Tanner, or Katherine Brown's > superb presentation on the women of Germanna, or Barb Price's insightful > unveiling of the history of Ashlawn (Ashland) could not help but be > impressed by the rich offerings of the Germanna experience. I say this > as one who has no known relation to Urban Tanner, am not a woman (though > I confess to soft spot in my heart for women), and who has no family > ties to the Ashlawn (Ashland) property or families. These were just > exceptional presentations that enhanced one's appreciation for the > context of one's own family history. > > Also, anyone who heard Marc Wheat's discussion of Germanna and the > exciting plans for the future of Germanna could not help but be inspired > by being a part of such a worthy enterprise. Fund raising will be an > important part of fulfilling the many opportunities that Germanna > possesses. > > The Sunday morning experience with Dr. William Kelso of Jamestown also > provided a marvelous look at the context of how our ancestors were able > to come to this country and how the path was cut. > > Germanna is more than just a family reunion and we should all celebrate > that fact. Of course, that's not to say we can't have some sack races > and watermelon eating contests as part of the festivities! > > Best wishes to all, Michael L. Oddenino > > Jay Rector wrote: >> Germanna is the first "reunion" I have ever attend where the primary >> focus is fund raising. Very sad. >> >> While fund raising is a necessary activity for the organization the >> reunion of familes, in my opinion, should be at minimal costs, and >> "family" oriented. Otherwise it isn't a family reunion at all. It is >> currently what it is - an annual fundraiser. >> >> Another issue with the manner of this Germanna Reunion is that the events >> and activities seem to be focused on genealogy. While many of you are >> "genealogy" oriented, most of the family decendents are not. We are >> "family members" with a common heritage. Where is the sack race and >> watermellon eating contest! Who has a story of family member success >> that can be shared with other family member and "Germanna cousins". Who >> graduated High School, College or has a new job, or maybe needs one? >> These are things that my family reunions have on their agenda. >> >> These aspects of fund raising and genealogy need to take a back seat at a >> family reunion, or rename the event. >> >> Sigh... >> >> Plan - Work - Sustain. >> >> >> Jay Rector - 4046603282.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: john.blankenbaker@comcast.net >> >> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:32:41 >> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [GERMANNA] Suggestions for the Reunion >> >> >> >> To Michael's excellent suggestions, let me add one. >> >> Reunions mean more when a good sized contingent of people from one family >> attend. I, for one, would volunteer to help provide a special event >> program outside of the usual activities. In particular, I am thinking of >> the year that 19 Ambergers came early. We met before the commencement of >> formal activities and they listened to a discussion by me before we went >> out to visit the two land patents that Conrad Amberger had. Then we went >> to Hebron and the town of Madison. We concluded the day with a dinner in >> Madison. In total we spent about five hours on the activities. I think >> the group had a good time that was informative. >> >> This was before the time that we had Friday tours. Still, having >> something tailored to one's own family is especially interesting. It >> would remain to be seen how we could merge all of the activities but the >> aim would be to have something special for the family. >> >> How do get the ball rolling? Principally it would depend on a person >> within the family who would organize the family and promote the idea. At >> the moment, I would volunteer to help if the group could trust that the >> creek doesn't rise too high. 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AMEN, Michael. I have never been to a Reunion or with a trip back to the homeland - and probably never will be able to - but the whole Germanna site and annual 'reunion' is far different from most other sites/get-togethers. It is quite special in my opinion. I do not have much to add - but I have learned so much. Ellenor Coons Flint

Well said! I was writing something along this vein but you stated it so perfectly I discarded my response. I will add my humble thoughts... I think John's suggestion that the individual families have separate reunions or events in conjunction with the main Foundation is an excellent idea. Such individual family reunions would be more in line with what Jay seeks. The Clores do this and the Yagers have done so, too (and probably others). It would nice if in scheduling the separate family events, consideration is given to the fact that many descendants have multiple Germanna ancestors :-) Those separate 'family reunions' would be more in line with a conventional family reunion that allow closer relations to meet and catch up on the family. etc. Such family events would certainly add depth to the experience for attendees. I felt bad that I could not attend the Clore meeting after Saturday's seminars. I said I would then simply wasn't feeling well (turned out I was getting pretty sick). The Foundation annual reunion of descendants could remain an event with elements focused on historical studies, future foundation plans, etc., as it is now. Whenever I am able to attend, I am always blown away by the tours, seminars and presentations. Kathleen On 8/5/08, Michael L. Oddenino <oddlaw@pacbell.net> wrote: > > I take a slightly different position in that I believe that Germanna is > different from other "family reunions." Few "family reunions" own a > large tract of property and even fewer have a stewardship over a > significant part of American history that reaches beyond mere family > members. The goals of most "family reunions" would be fellowship, fun > and refreshing family ties. Germanna is charged with a more expansive > duty owing to the unique history of the "Germanna family." I do agree > that a name change is appropriate and my suggestion is "The Germanna > Historical Conference and Annual Reunion." This more accurately > reflects the heritage and actual operation of the annual Germanna event. > As for the fund raising element, it is simply necessary to sustain the > many obligations of Germanna, which unlike most "family reunions" must > sustain expenses on a year-round basis with the operation of the > visitor's center and website. Personally, I find Germanna's fund > raising activities to be very benign. Vendors selling items of interest > to those who attend and the auctions are for many people are attractive > elements of the Germanna annual event. > > As for the genealogy, it is my impression that it ties in neatly with > the essential mission of Germanna and is an important part of the "soul > of Germanna." Anyone who attended this year's conference and heard John > Blankenbaker's fascinating account of Urban Tanner, or Katherine Brown's > superb presentation on the women of Germanna, or Barb Price's insightful > unveiling of the history of Ashlawn (Ashland) could not help but be > impressed by the rich offerings of the Germanna experience. I say this > as one who has no known relation to Urban Tanner, am not a woman (though > I confess to soft spot in my heart for women), and who has no family > ties to the Ashlawn (Ashland) property or families. These were just > exceptional presentations that enhanced one's appreciation for the > context of one's own family history. > > Also, anyone who heard Marc Wheat's discussion of Germanna and the > exciting plans for the future of Germanna could not help but be inspired > by being a part of such a worthy enterprise. Fund raising will be an > important part of fulfilling the many opportunities that Germanna > possesses. > > The Sunday morning experience with Dr. William Kelso of Jamestown also > provided a marvelous look at the context of how our ancestors were able > to come to this country and how the path was cut. > > Germanna is more than just a family reunion and we should all celebrate > that fact. Of course, that's not to say we can't have some sack races > and watermelon eating contests as part of the festivities! > > Best wishes to all, Michael L. Oddenino > > <snipped for brevity> > -- > Kathleen Bowen Simons > Falls Church, Virginia > > IMAGE - a No. VA Christian church whose mission is simple: Worship. > Community. Service. > www.thisisimage.com (click on the Audio icon to hear Pastor Chris' > messages!) > > Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. > Simons: http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons

My G-Grandmother was Elvira Mendenhall, NC>IN md. Hiram Moore, s/ of William Moore md. Catherine Cotner, both b. E. Tn> Preble County, ON. Violet Mppre Guy. THE ORIGIN OF THE MENDENHALL NAME By George E. Mendenhall In 1965 our family was heading for Jerusalem, Jorden, where I was scheduled to be the Director of the American School of Oriental Research for the academic hyear. Our third son was to be a senior in high school that year, but there was no appropriate high school in the Arab city, so at the last moment we succeeded in placing him in a German family for the school year through the Youth for Understanding international programs. He didn't speak a workd of German, and his family didn't speak a word of English, but by the end of the school year, he could pass as a native German. The family with whom he lived consisted of two medical doctors and one teenaged son. The wife and mother of the family, Dr. Liselotte Sauer, was a very knowledgeable specialist in genealogy. When I informed her that our family name was originally "Mildenhall". in England, she immediately commented that it explained something that had been puzzling her. Actually, it is a Saxon name that originally would have been "von Muldenhalle". The first part of the name "mulden" occurs in the name of the "Moldan River in Bohemia (now the "Vitava"). It is also the name of the Mulde River, a tributary to the important Elbe River that flows through eastern Germany. Just to the North of the Mulde is the Saale River. On its bands is the important cite "Halle:. The "halle"derives from the fact that the city and region were famous centuries ago for their salt mines (cf. haloids). The name meant originally something like "from the salt mines of 'Mulde" river." Other explanations of the name are certainly what was termed "popular etymologies"." What this means, then, is that the Mendenhall name came from Saxony with the migration of Saxons into England in the 5th to 6th centruries A.D. when they succeeded in establishing a series of kingdoms that we still term "Anglo-Saxon." Acording to tradition, sometime before A.D. 500, a Briton king invited a number of Saxpn adventurers to enter his service as mercenaries to protect his regime from the Picts and Irish who were raiding him. They soon rebelled but the British succeeded in confing them to the South and East coastal regions for many hears: precisely the area where the two modern towns of Mildenhall still exixts. Written by George E. Mendenhall, Ann Arbor, MI Volume 6 Number 1 MENDENHALL MATTERS January 1999 6 ("MENDENHALL MATTERS" is published on the MFA website -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of PATRICIA Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:31 AM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Cortner family of Guilford Question: Do you know of the Cotner, Gortner, Cortner family of Guilford & Orange Counties, NC? There was a George Cortner in the German part of the Guilford County map, by Fred Hughes (name, I believe). There were Cortner's in that 28 mile stretch of German settlers along the Guilford/ Alamance county line as indicated by the Hughes Map. And, probably some there today. There was also a prominent Mendenhall family in Guilford County. Does anyone know if the Berry family came down to Guilford or Randolph Counties. There are many in the area today. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a book at the DAR library entitle "Out from the Blue Ridge: a genealogical history of the Kessler, Kesler families of Botetourt County Virginia". Have you seen it? -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of William and Julia Wallace Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 2:06 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Cc: juliawallace1@verizon.net Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Schmidt -NOW kESSLER Anita, We share another family name! I have a grandmother, LETHA KESSLER. I have a "cousin" in Warrenton, VA who has gone to Alsace to trace this family.....Weber-Kessler. I knew my great grandmother, Caroline WEBER KESSLER. We hold our WEBER-KESSLER reunion the second weekend in August in Indiana. If you want more info let me know, My files are in the car. We are in Clinton, TN (Bill's family home). Julie ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > This Schmidt family is not connected with Germanna. > Heinrich Franz Schmidt was born 12 March 1871 in > Gelnhausen, Hesse, Germany. He graduated from the > University of Heidelberg as an Evangelisch Pfarrer. He > came to Dixon, IL after graduation and marriage (21 July > 1896) to AnnaMartha Catherina Kessler of Verden am Aller, > Hesse, Germany and came as a Lutheran missionary pastor. > The family was in Gelnhausen from the 1600's. > > If anyone is connected to the Kessler or Schmidt families, > I would like to exchange information. ............... > Anita (Rouse) Schmidt > > > bill and julie wallace ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Elizabeth was the daughter of Jacob and Millie Dodson. Jacob was the son of Henrich and Nancy Ann Hardin. The migration was this way. I found both William and Elizabeth in Gallia Oh and they appear to have died there, Elizabeth before 1850 and William just after 1850.The three boys Arrington Richard and Parkinson went on to Perry OH. Arrington who also used Harrington and Aaron for names went on to Pickaway, Madison Twp, OH and then to Henry county OH, which is in North West OH near Toledo. Richard never left Franklin county OH. Parkinson died in Delaware county IA, Oneida Twp between 1857 and 1860.Richard died a short while after 1870 and Arrington died in Henry county OH sometime between 1860 and 1870. They didn't keep cemetery records back then till 1867 and the graves of Arrington and his wife Mahala White have never been found. I happen to believe that the two are buried in Texas cemetery. It is the oldest cemetery in Henry county OH. It was damaged during the 1960's and '70s and the stones to a major part of the cemetery were never put back or replaced. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <germanna_colonies-request@rootsweb.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 3:18 AM Subject: GERMANNA_COLONIES Digest, Vol 3, Issue 248 > > > There are two ways to receive the DIGEST Mode for this Mailing List: > > 1) PLAIN TEXT-Plain Text Digests are sent to users with all posts listed > in one long email. This is the default when a user subscribes to the > Digest Mode. > > 2) MIME-For most users MIME Digests will appear with all posts as > individual attachments. If you are receiving in Plain Text and want your > Digest in MIME, please write me directly at > GERMANNA_COLONIES-admin@rootsweb.com. > > ############### > > When replying to a Digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the Digest from your reply. > > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. That is, if you > change the subject, CHANGE the subject line! > > George > List Administrator > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Descendants of William Parsons and Elizabeth Holtzclaw > (David E Mason) > 2. Re: Descendants of William Parsons and Elizabeth Holtzclaw > (Fred Duncan) > 3. Re: Descendants of William Parsons and ElizabethHoltzclaw > (Jeanne Bedwell) > 4. Re: Schmidt -NOW kESSLER (William and Julia Wallace) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 09:28:09 -0400 > From: "David E Mason" <davwilm@toast.net> > Subject: [GERMANNA] Descendants of William Parsons and Elizabeth > Holtzclaw > To: <GERMANNA_COLONIES@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <018e01c8f4a3$9b14fe30$0400000a@valuedtme5te2m> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Wm Parsons and Elizabeth were married 3 Jan 1798 in Fauquier VA. According > to the 1820 Census thee were six male and four female children. I can > account for five sons only, they are Arrington, Richard, Stephen, William > Holtzclaw Parsons and Parkinson Parsons. Wm and Elizabeth moved their > family to OH before 1830 leaving Stephen and Wm Holtzclaw behind. I > believe that they married the daughters off also but I can't find anything > on any marriages. I need some new eyes looking at this situation. > > My grandmother was a Parsons and I am the 8th great grandson of Hans Jacob > Holtzclaw. Thank you for your time. > > Dave > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:07:13 -0400 > From: "Fred Duncan" <wfred.duncan@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Descendants of William Parsons and Elizabeth > Holtzclaw > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <34ed57f00808020907o69f6bf72k5b811f0bee30cf22@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Interested in your Parsons family. I am researching John Duncan & > Elizabeth > Holtzclaw, They lived in Fauquier, near Warrenton, Va. on Turkey Run, near > draw > falling into the "Parsons" branch. > > Believe Elizabeth, who married John Duncan was sister of Joseph, father of > your Elizabeth Holtzclaw. Hoping you can tell me something about migration > pattern of your Parsons family. Have several references in my research. > wfred.duncan@gmail.com > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:28 AM, David E Mason <davwilm@toast.net> wrote: > >> Wm Parsons and Elizabeth were married 3 Jan 1798 in Fauquier VA. >> According >> to the 1820 Census thee were six male and four female children. I can >> account for five sons only, they are Arrington, Richard, Stephen, William >> Holtzclaw Parsons and Parkinson Parsons. Wm and Elizabeth moved their >> family >> to OH before 1830 leaving Stephen and Wm Holtzclaw behind. I believe that >> they married the daughters off also but I can't find anything on any >> marriages. I need some new eyes looking at this situation. >> >> My grandmother was a Parsons and I am the 8th great grandson of Hans >> Jacob >> Holtzclaw. Thank you for your time. >> >> Dave >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Fred Duncan > 136 Kirk Adams Road > Angier, North Carolina 27501 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:57:02 -0400 > From: "Jeanne Bedwell" <jbedwell@blueriver.net> > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Descendants of William Parsons and > ElizabethHoltzclaw > To: <GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D25D7EDE4AFC43A0845291B8942BF918@DESKTOP> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Is there a connection between the Parsons family of Hardy [Hampshire] > counties and > later Tucker county and the Parsons families mentioned in these posts? The > Hardy > County Parsons, Thomas Parsons and others, began buying land around 1760. > > Jeanne Bedwell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fred Duncan" <wfred.duncan@gmail.com> > To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 12:07 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Descendants of William Parsons and > ElizabethHoltzclaw > > > Interested in your Parsons family. I am researching John Duncan & > Elizabeth > Holtzclaw, They lived in Fauquier, near Warrenton, Va. on Turkey Run, near > draw > falling into the "Parsons" branch. > > Believe Elizabeth, who married John Duncan was sister of Joseph, father of > your Elizabeth Holtzclaw. Hoping you can tell me something about migration > pattern of your Parsons family. Have several references in my research. > wfred.duncan@gmail.com > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:28 AM, David E Mason <davwilm@toast.net> wrote: > >> Wm Parsons and Elizabeth were married 3 Jan 1798 in Fauquier VA. >> According >> to the 1820 Census thee were six male and four female children. I can >> account for five sons only, they are Arrington, Richard, Stephen, William >> Holtzclaw Parsons and Parkinson Parsons. Wm and Elizabeth moved their >> family >> to OH before 1830 leaving Stephen and Wm Holtzclaw behind. I believe that >> they married the daughters off also but I can't find anything on any >> marriages. I need some new eyes looking at this situation. >> >> My grandmother was a Parsons and I am the 8th great grandson of Hans >> Jacob >> Holtzclaw. Thank you for your time. >> >> Dave >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Fred Duncan > 136 Kirk Adams Road > Angier, North Carolina 27501 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:05:52 -0400 > From: "William and Julia Wallace" <wwallace@muskingum.edu> > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Schmidt -NOW kESSLER > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > Cc: juliawallace1@verizon.net > Message-ID: <4894a200.313.3a904.31909@muskingum.edu> > > Anita, > We share another family name! > I have a grandmother, LETHA KESSLER. I have a "cousin" in > Warrenton, VA who has gone to Alsace to trace this > family.....Weber-Kessler. I knew my great grandmother, > Caroline WEBER KESSLER. We hold our WEBER-KESSLER reunion > the second weekend in August in Indiana. If you want more > info let me know, My files are in the car. We are in > Clinton, TN (Bill's family home). > Julie > > ----- Original Message Follows ----- >> >> This Schmidt family is not connected with Germanna. >> Heinrich Franz Schmidt was born 12 March 1871 in >> Gelnhausen, Hesse, Germany. He graduated from the >> University of Heidelberg as an Evangelisch Pfarrer. He >> came to Dixon, IL after graduation and marriage (21 July >> 1896) to AnnaMartha Catherina Kessler of Verden am Aller, >> Hesse, Germany and came as a Lutheran missionary pastor. >> The family was in Gelnhausen from the 1600's. >> >> If anyone is connected to the Kessler or Schmidt families, >> I would like to exchange information. > ............... > >> Anita (Rouse) Schmidt >> >> >> > > bill and julie wallace > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GERMANNA_COLONIES list administrator, send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GERMANNA_COLONIES mailing list, send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GERMANNA_COLONIES Digest, Vol 3, Issue 248 > ************************************************* >

Anita, We share another family name! I have a grandmother, LETHA KESSLER. I have a "cousin" in Warrenton, VA who has gone to Alsace to trace this family.....Weber-Kessler. I knew my great grandmother, Caroline WEBER KESSLER. We hold our WEBER-KESSLER reunion the second weekend in August in Indiana. If you want more info let me know, My files are in the car. We are in Clinton, TN (Bill's family home). Julie ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > This Schmidt family is not connected with Germanna. > Heinrich Franz Schmidt was born 12 March 1871 in > Gelnhausen, Hesse, Germany. He graduated from the > University of Heidelberg as an Evangelisch Pfarrer. He > came to Dixon, IL after graduation and marriage (21 July > 1896) to AnnaMartha Catherina Kessler of Verden am Aller, > Hesse, Germany and came as a Lutheran missionary pastor. > The family was in Gelnhausen from the 1600's. > > If anyone is connected to the Kessler or Schmidt families, > I would like to exchange information. ............... > Anita (Rouse) Schmidt > > > bill and julie wallace

Is there a connection between the Parsons family of Hardy [Hampshire] counties and later Tucker county and the Parsons families mentioned in these posts? The Hardy County Parsons, Thomas Parsons and others, began buying land around 1760. Jeanne Bedwell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Duncan" <wfred.duncan@gmail.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Descendants of William Parsons and ElizabethHoltzclaw Interested in your Parsons family. I am researching John Duncan & Elizabeth Holtzclaw, They lived in Fauquier, near Warrenton, Va. on Turkey Run, near draw falling into the "Parsons" branch. Believe Elizabeth, who married John Duncan was sister of Joseph, father of your Elizabeth Holtzclaw. Hoping you can tell me something about migration pattern of your Parsons family. Have several references in my research. wfred.duncan@gmail.com On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:28 AM, David E Mason <davwilm@toast.net> wrote: > Wm Parsons and Elizabeth were married 3 Jan 1798 in Fauquier VA. According > to the 1820 Census thee were six male and four female children. I can > account for five sons only, they are Arrington, Richard, Stephen, William > Holtzclaw Parsons and Parkinson Parsons. Wm and Elizabeth moved their > family > to OH before 1830 leaving Stephen and Wm Holtzclaw behind. I believe that > they married the daughters off also but I can't find anything on any > marriages. I need some new eyes looking at this situation. > > My grandmother was a Parsons and I am the 8th great grandson of Hans Jacob > Holtzclaw. Thank you for your time. > > Dave > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Fred Duncan 136 Kirk Adams Road Angier, North Carolina 27501 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Interested in your Parsons family. I am researching John Duncan & Elizabeth Holtzclaw, They lived in Fauquier, near Warrenton, Va. on Turkey Run, near draw falling into the "Parsons" branch. Believe Elizabeth, who married John Duncan was sister of Joseph, father of your Elizabeth Holtzclaw. Hoping you can tell me something about migration pattern of your Parsons family. Have several references in my research. wfred.duncan@gmail.com On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:28 AM, David E Mason <davwilm@toast.net> wrote: > Wm Parsons and Elizabeth were married 3 Jan 1798 in Fauquier VA. According > to the 1820 Census thee were six male and four female children. I can > account for five sons only, they are Arrington, Richard, Stephen, William > Holtzclaw Parsons and Parkinson Parsons. Wm and Elizabeth moved their family > to OH before 1830 leaving Stephen and Wm Holtzclaw behind. I believe that > they married the daughters off also but I can't find anything on any > marriages. I need some new eyes looking at this situation. > > My grandmother was a Parsons and I am the 8th great grandson of Hans Jacob > Holtzclaw. Thank you for your time. > > Dave > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Fred Duncan 136 Kirk Adams Road Angier, North Carolina 27501

Wm Parsons and Elizabeth were married 3 Jan 1798 in Fauquier VA. According to the 1820 Census thee were six male and four female children. I can account for five sons only, they are Arrington, Richard, Stephen, William Holtzclaw Parsons and Parkinson Parsons. Wm and Elizabeth moved their family to OH before 1830 leaving Stephen and Wm Holtzclaw behind. I believe that they married the daughters off also but I can't find anything on any marriages. I need some new eyes looking at this situation. My grandmother was a Parsons and I am the 8th great grandson of Hans Jacob Holtzclaw. Thank you for your time. Dave

Michael, thank you for forwarding the message from Wayne Reser re George Adam Rauser. I'd like to open a dialog with all interested parties on George Adam (my 5th ggf) to shed some light on his background and life as well as that of Margaretha Buntlinger. Anyone interested, please contact me at rracer@shentel.net E. L. "Rock" Racer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael L. Oddenino" <oddlaw@pacbell.net> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:40 PM Subject: [GERMANNA] George Adam Reaser / Razor / Raüser >I received this email regarding George Adam Reaser which is interesting > considering John Blankenbakers note 1203 which is included below. Does > anyone have any information to add to these insights? > > Reser, Wayne wrote: >> >> Michael >> >> While doing research on the Reeser/Rieser/Reaser immigrants that >> settled eastern Pennsylvania, I happened to stumble upon your Oddenino >> Family history website (which I regard as most impressive!). I was >> following leads on a Gorg (Jurgh) Adam Riser that came to Philadelphia >> by means of the Loyal Judith in 1732 and found your narrative on the >> possibility of George Adam Riser and Nunnenmacher family connection. >> >> This was a curious coincidence because I recently found a tidbit on >> George Adam Reaser that I had set aside for future investigation. He >> may be the same G.A.R. that you write about or in may not, and you may >> already be aware of the information. Nonetheless, I thought that I >> would pass it along just in case. >> >> If we are indeed refering to the sam G.A.R., then it might be possible >> to conclude that the relationship between Reaser and Nunnenmacher was >> slightly more than casual. Not withstanding the spellings, I was >> struck by the following: >> >> /Bucks Co./ >> /adam nunemaker, sr. and jr., rockhill twp. dec. 15. adam, >> jr., left widow catharine and two children; mary and / >> /rheuben, under 1. philip reaser, guardian. sept. 16, >> 1843, adam, sr. left children, john, mary, wf of philip >> rezer, / >> /henry, elisabeth, jacob, catharine, w/o george beringer, >> hannah, w/o george stine, adam, deceased, children, / >> /reuben and mary, minors. sept 14, 1847 dau. mary, over >> 14, petitions for guardian, henry fredericks appointed, / >> /fe 8, 1848, guardian phillip reaser is old and infirm./ >> >> /(Submitted by Geri Brennan)/ >> >> Geri Brennan, is a researcher at the Bucks County, PA Genealogical >> Society (or similar name as I am too lazy to look it up just now) and >> provided this information to someone on one of the genealogical >> forums. My interest was of Phillip Reaser as he is the proper >> generation for the ancestor I am seeking. >> >> At any rate, I hope you find this information helpful, or at least >> interesting. >> >> Continued good luck in your research and congratulations on such an >> extraordinary presentation of family history on your website! >> >> Best regards, >> >> Wayne Reser >> > Here is John Blankenbaker's note 1203: > > Nr. 1203: > > I continue with some possible interactions which might have had an > influence on how people relocated. According to the research of Gene > Dear, George Adam Raüser came to America on the ship Mary and Sarah, > which arrived at Philadelphia on 26 Oct 1754. There was another > individual on this same ship who also came to the Robinson River area of > Virginia. This was George Ludwig Nonnenmacher. Neither of these men came > directly to Virginia. George Adam Rieser married Margaretha Butlinger in > Philadelphia on 6 May 1755 (at St. Michael’s Lutheran Church). He then > settled in Newton township, Sussex Co., New Jersey. > > Apparently several years later he moved to Virginia to judge by his > first land purchase of 100 acres from Frederick and Sarah Baumgardner in > 1774. The family appears in the German Lutheran Church (Hebron) records > from 1776 on. (I have been transcribing the communions lists and I have > never seen a five or six letter name spelled so many different ways.) > The name tended to become Rasor in South Carolina and Racer in Virginia. > Most commonly it is a variation of Risser or Reaser. > > Is it just a coincidence that the Nonnenmachers also start appearing in > the church register in 1776? The two families arrive in 1754 and about > twenty years later they both appear at about the same time in Virginia. > > Let me add to this set of coincidences by noting that the ship Loyal > Judith, which brought Andreas Gaar in 1732, also brought the two men, > Georg Adam Riser and Hans Georg Riser. Now Georg Adam Riser in 1732 may > not be related to Georg Adam Käiser 1754 (don’t let the K and the R > confuse the question; this is just a problem of reading the names from > the list.) It strikes me that the 1732 man and the 1754 man are probably > related. > > So I am inclined to think there is some relationship between Gaar, > Riser, and Nunnenmacher. It is not at all obvious from the known > records, but it is extremely suspicious. > > Again, I make the point that perhaps we have underestimated the > relationships that existed outside of Virginia. These relationships were > important in influencing who moved to Virginia, and perhaps when. > (06 July 01) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >