In a political meeting I attended last night - it was mentioned that some of the attendees had continuing trouble with rr and had to use other addresses. My business experience says some isp's are blocked from time to time for excess spam then released to operate normally. I would check with my isp to see if the incoming is blocked. John -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Larry and Jean Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:04 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANNA] blank e-mails Ernest Duff, Thank you for saying that you rec'd a blank e-mail also. That was the third blank one that I've gotten from Germanna recently and I was wondering if the problem was with peoplepc.com, cox.net, my computer or with our Road Runner connection. These are the three that came to me blank. <redscorsair@peoplepc.com>; 30 JUL 2008 7:52 PM ; The YAGER Family, in Rockingham Co., VA <redscorsair@peoplepc.com>; 7 AUG 2008 10:11 PM ; The YAGER Family, in Rockingham Co., VA Pete Holt <peteholt@cox.net>; 8 AUG 2008 6:48 PM ; Germanna Foundation Newsletter Mailing Did anyone receive a message with any of these? If so, would you please let me know? Thanks, Jean From: Ernest Duff Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Germanna] The Yager Family..., On Jul 30, 2008, at 7:52 PM, <redscorsair@peoplepc.com> wrote: > -------------------- We are Yager descendants. We did not receive any message with your e-mail. Could you please try again? Thanks. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ernest Duff, Thank you for saying that you rec'd a blank e-mail also. That was the third blank one that I've gotten from Germanna recently and I was wondering if the problem was with peoplepc.com, cox.net, my computer or with our Road Runner connection. These are the three that came to me blank. <redscorsair@peoplepc.com>; 30 JUL 2008 7:52 PM ; The YAGER Family, in Rockingham Co., VA <redscorsair@peoplepc.com>; 7 AUG 2008 10:11 PM ; The YAGER Family, in Rockingham Co., VA Pete Holt <peteholt@cox.net>; 8 AUG 2008 6:48 PM ; Germanna Foundation Newsletter Mailing Did anyone receive a message with any of these? If so, would you please let me know? Thanks, Jean From: Ernest Duff Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Germanna] The Yager Family..., On Jul 30, 2008, at 7:52 PM, <redscorsair@peoplepc.com> wrote: > -------------------- We are Yager descendants. We did not receive any message with your e-mail. Could you please try again? Thanks.

We are Yager descendants. We did not receive any message with your e- mail. Could you please try again? Thanks. On Jul 30, 2008, at 7:52 PM, redscorsair wrote: > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Larry and Jean <hallauer@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > Ernest Duff, > Thank you for saying that you rec'd a blank e-mail also. That was the third blank one that I've gotten from Germanna recently and I was wondering if the problem was with peoplepc.com, cox.net, my computer or with our Road Runner connection. These are the three that came to me blank. Yes, I've received the blank messages, too. More than likely the cause is that they weren't sent in plain text mode. RootsWeb doesn't allow html coding in list messages and in trying to strip it out often the entire text disappears and a blank message is the result. [snip] Beth -- "A busily sniffing dog reading its scent version of the morning newspaper." Dawn Ackerman

I also would agree to it being on email format but my system may crash but will at least try it. Susi Still waiting reply to my other questions. ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Let me add my encouragement to all to become members of the Germanna Foundation by joining right away. There are many exciting things in the future of Germanna and as a member you will be first to hear about and enjoy the benefits of these future goodies. Also, your membership dues, which are very low, will help sustain the many good works done by the Germanna Foundation. http://www.germanna.org/join.cfm Cathi Clore Frost wrote: > One of the problems with the delay of bulk mail is that the Post Office can > hold items mailed in bulk for 3 days at any place it stops. My mom told me > this, she used to be our church secretary and they mail the church > newsletter via bulk mail. For our church newsletter this isn't as big of a > problem because the geographic area of the mailing is smaller. As the > Germanna newsletter is mailed all across the country there are many more > potential places for the delay. This past newsletter was mailed in Virginia > July 3 but I had not received mine before I left home in Oregon for the > reunion on July 15. > > Someone asked how to become a member in order to receive the newsletter. > There is no proof of lineage required as in some other societies for > descendants. The Germanna Foundation is open to anyone with an interest in > the Germanna Colonies. Members of the Germanna Foundation automatically > receive the newsletter. Information on dues is on the Foundation website > http://www.germanna.org/join.cfm. > > FYI the 2009 reunion will be July 17-18-19. We'd love to see all of our > cousins there! > > Cathi > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3341 (20080808) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > >

One of the problems with the delay of bulk mail is that the Post Office can hold items mailed in bulk for 3 days at any place it stops. My mom told me this, she used to be our church secretary and they mail the church newsletter via bulk mail. For our church newsletter this isn't as big of a problem because the geographic area of the mailing is smaller. As the Germanna newsletter is mailed all across the country there are many more potential places for the delay. This past newsletter was mailed in Virginia July 3 but I had not received mine before I left home in Oregon for the reunion on July 15. Someone asked how to become a member in order to receive the newsletter. There is no proof of lineage required as in some other societies for descendants. The Germanna Foundation is open to anyone with an interest in the Germanna Colonies. Members of the Germanna Foundation automatically receive the newsletter. Information on dues is on the Foundation website http://www.germanna.org/join.cfm. FYI the 2009 reunion will be July 17-18-19. We'd love to see all of our cousins there! Cathi

I think the pdf file would be a great way to save money. I received the last letter both ways. The electronic version was excellent. Anyone who wishes to read it somewhere else can easily print it. And we could receive it in a timely fashion. Those who do not use the computer could still receive the mail copy. I would be glad to be placed on a list for "e-mail only." How about a show of interest for those of us who would be happy with the e-mail version. J. Watkins john.blankenbaker@comcast.net wrote: Virginia Nuta has discussed the problems of newsletter mailings, especially by bulk mail. At the Delaware Photographic Society, where Eleanor and I are officers-members, we send 80% of our newsletters by email. The letter is done as a portable document format (pdf) which can even include color. This pdf document is an attachment to the email. This is much speedier, lower in cost, and can include color. There is hardly any excuse for not using electronic distribution. The exception is the person who does not have a computer and there are a few of these. -- John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Virginia Nuta has discussed the problems of newsletter mailings, especially by bulk mail. At the Delaware Photographic Society, where Eleanor and I are officers-members, we send 80% of our newsletters by email. The letter is done as a portable document format (pdf) which can even include color. This pdf document is an attachment to the email. This is much speedier, lower in cost, and can include color. There is hardly any excuse for not using electronic distribution. The exception is the person who does not have a computer and there are a few of these. -- John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net

Amen to JOhn's statement also those who use magnifing glasses to read it slowly . :>) S ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Cary, Colonists, I work on our newletter and even using bulk mailing it costs we have gone electronic for over two years the savings have been awesome. Yes we still mail some in regular format because those members do not have computers or prefer to do as you do. I actually prefer the regular because I read it setting in car waiting for a grandson from school. But I also understand the costs of life have gone up. So I do not feel offended if they need to make a minimal increase in fees. NOW I am not a member of the group per say I am of the list I wonder who you talk to become a member or do you have to prove you belong to the group first. Long before computers I used to get notices once in a while in paper format. SO if there is a Membership we need to join or please advise. Susi Jones Pentico a Huffman Descendant ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

I agree. I dislike doing so much reading at the computer and printing truckloads of stuff out. I would rather pay higher dues etc. to get a printed version. And you have to download it and my files are jammed packed so you have to go through and delete, wasting more time at the computer. Gail Adams In a message dated 8/8/2008 5:19:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, drcary@cox.net writes: John Blankenbaker suggested e-mailing the Germanna newsletter. Then he wrote: "There is hardly any excuse for not using electronic distribution." I for one prefer to sit in my easy chair with a cup of coffee or a bit of Scotch when reading my newsletters. I have dropped membership is a couple of organizations when they required a higher membership fee in order to receive the quarterly journal via regular mail. I am sure there are others who feel the same way. I must have missed the discussion on problems with bulk mailings. Our local genealogical society has used such for years and it seems to work with no glitch. Cary Anderson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

John Blankenbaker suggested e-mailing the Germanna newsletter. Then he wrote: "There is hardly any excuse for not using electronic distribution." I for one prefer to sit in my easy chair with a cup of coffee or a bit of Scotch when reading my newsletters. I have dropped membership is a couple of organizations when they required a higher membership fee in order to receive the quarterly journal via regular mail. I am sure there are others who feel the same way. I must have missed the discussion on problems with bulk mailings. Our local genealogical society has used such for years and it seems to work with no glitch. Cary Anderson

Marc: With all the suggestions about the reunion, and the fund raising for the Foundation, I'd like to know if we have anybody who is experienced in researching and writing grants for organizations, such as GERMANNA? Since we have nearly 300 years of documented history, which we are striving to preserve, it would seem that the educational and historical value of this group is priceless. Linda Johnston

In regards to where persons live versus where their mail is sent or delivered from, this is still the same today in some areas. I have an Uncle who lives in Bradley County TN, but their delivery and listing for their address is Benton, TN which is in Polk County. However, they're just a few miles (if that) from the county line of Bradley & Polk Counties. It makes for a little confusion, but this still happens today. In the past their mail use to come from another town within Bradley County. In fact our family cemetery is listed in both Bradley and Polk County cemetery books since it's so close and persons from both counties are buried there. My grandmother lived just over the line in Bradley, and her sister (about a 1/4 of a mile down the same road) lived just inside Polk County. So it is best to check all local areas esp if county lines are currently close or were in the past. ----- Original Message ----- From: "George W. Durman" <GermannaResearch@comcast.net> To: "GERMANNA COLONIES" <GERMANNA_COLONIES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 12:10:59 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: [GERMANNA] Greene Co., TN, vs. Washington Co., TN I've been inputting data on East Tennessee Germanna descendants into the database and have run across something that I think should be cleared up. Many researchers have births, marriages, deaths, etc., as being Chuckey, Greene Co., TN, when the actual places were in Washington Co. Lest we confuse other future researchers, we should be careful about "places" in our databases. YES, the "mailing addresses" of these people were/are Chuckey, TN, which is in Greene Co.; however, it's just a quirk of the U.S. Postal Service that mail to that part of SW Washington Co. is delivered from Chucky, rather than from Limestone, which IS in Washington Co. There are hundreds of Germanna descendants in the Liberty Freewill Baptist Church Cemetery in Washington Co., and the majority of them were born in, were married in, and died in Washington Co. The church and cemetery is usually referred to as being "at Chuckey, Greene Co., TN". That is an error that should be corrected. Just because it's mailing address is 91 Guy Brown Rd., Chuckey, TN, does not mean it is actually located in Greene Co. It may be a small point to some, but when future genealogists try to find historical records on their "Washington Co." ancestors in Greeneville, Greene Co., they will have little luck. The records will be in Jonesborough, Washington Co., TN. As to where the church and cemetery is located, I input it as "in the Liberty Community, Washington Co., TN". BTW, the same thing applies to the Mauk Family Cemetery in Washington Co., on Bill Mauk Rd. People buried there are listed in databases as having died at Chuckey, Greene Co., TN. Same problem with mailing addresses. Regards, Sarge ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As a followup to the previous post about cemeteries in Washington Co., TN, here is a link to all the cemeteries in that county: <http://www.tngenweb.org/washington/cemetery/cemetery.htm> The caretaker of this website is Betty Jane Hylton, who is also responsible for most (all?) of the surveys of the cemeteries. You should thank her for the wonderful work she and her friends do. Some of the cemeteries listed are actually across the county line in Greene Co., but Betty and her friends have surveyed them also and posted on the website. Regards, Sarge

I've been inputting data on East Tennessee Germanna descendants into the database and have run across something that I think should be cleared up. Many researchers have births, marriages, deaths, etc., as being Chuckey, Greene Co., TN, when the actual places were in Washington Co. Lest we confuse other future researchers, we should be careful about "places" in our databases. YES, the "mailing addresses" of these people were/are Chuckey, TN, which is in Greene Co.; however, it's just a quirk of the U.S. Postal Service that mail to that part of SW Washington Co. is delivered from Chucky, rather than from Limestone, which IS in Washington Co. There are hundreds of Germanna descendants in the Liberty Freewill Baptist Church Cemetery in Washington Co., and the majority of them were born in, were married in, and died in Washington Co. The church and cemetery is usually referred to as being "at Chuckey, Greene Co., TN". That is an error that should be corrected. Just because it's mailing address is 91 Guy Brown Rd., Chuckey, TN, does not mean it is actually located in Greene Co. It may be a small point to some, but when future genealogists try to find historical records on their "Washington Co." ancestors in Greeneville, Greene Co., they will have little luck. The records will be in Jonesborough, Washington Co., TN. As to where the church and cemetery is located, I input it as "in the Liberty Community, Washington Co., TN". BTW, the same thing applies to the Mauk Family Cemetery in Washington Co., on Bill Mauk Rd. People buried there are listed in databases as having died at Chuckey, Greene Co., TN. Same problem with mailing addresses. Regards, Sarge

Wow! First of all, let me say that I am a Pa/Md cousin of the Germanna Willheits. My guy (a cousin) arrived in 1731 in Pa.? I have no direct ties to Germanna beyond that. But I've been reading John's notes for years now and have been reading the email exchanges from many Germanna participants. Today, I've waded through the many emails about the reunion, and I'm astounded by what seems to be quite a bit of criticism about how things were organized. My question is very simple:? Why wasn't any of this discussed before the "reunion"? And secondly,? if fund-raising is such a big issue, why haven't I been made aware of that during all this time?? I don't recall any mention of fund-raising since I joined in two or three years ago. Please understand that I am a relatively new Germanna reader. But I am amazed at reading the emails today. Ed Pa. native/ Ca. resident <snip>