Thanks so much! john.blankenbaker@comcast.net wrote: > Michael asks if there is any good material on the ship Oliver. Yes, there is. > Klaus Wust wrote a series of articles for Beyond Germanna starting with > the number 1 issue of volume 10 of Beyond Germanna (page 541). > The material extended through a few issues. > > -- > John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3345 (20080811) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > >

In addition to Wolfartsweiher (an alternative to Wolfartweyher) which Cathi gave as an origin of Anna Barbara Meyer, we should consider that another alternative could be Wolfartsweier. In fact there are some reasons to give this alternative some special considerations. Mrs Henry Miller (Susanna Sibler) was from Auerbach which is only about two miles from Wolfartsweier. Was there a connection between the Mrs. Utz (Anna Barbara Meyer) and Susanna Miller? When children of Henry and Susanna Miller were baptized for Johannes the sponsors were Jacob Mayer and his wife Margaret. When the child Marg. was baptized, the sponsors were George Uz and his wife Marg. (Weaver). It's enough to make one wonder. -- John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net

George Caspar Wayman is discussed at page 509 of Germanna Record 5 by B.C. Holtzclaw. George Wayman was one of the lucky passengers on the ill-fated ship Oliver which sank off the coast of Virginia. Though the ship had left Rotterdam about June of 1738, it did not arrive at Virginia until the following January. Two of every three passengers lost their life due to starvation, disease, or drowning. George Wayman was named in the Freudenberg parish book. -- John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Michael L. Oddenino" <oddlaw@pacbell.net> > Anyone have any information on George Caspar WAYMAN (WEIDMAN) father of > Mary WAYMAN (WEIDMAN). > > I believe Mary married Adam UTZ the grandson of Johann George Utz

Do you understand George Caspar Wayman's wife to be Anna Catherine Jung? If so, is there any data available on her? Also, thanks for the info on the ship Oliver. Are there any good documents to read regarding the ship and its fate? Thanks again, Michael john.blankenbaker@comcast.net wrote: > George Caspar Wayman is discussed at page 509 of Germanna Record 5 by B.C. Holtzclaw. George Wayman was one of the lucky passengers on the ill-fated ship Oliver which sank off the coast of Virginia. Though the ship had left Rotterdam about June of 1738, it did not arrive at Virginia until the following January. Two of every three passengers lost their life due to starvation, disease, or drowning. George Wayman was named in the Freudenberg parish book. > > -- > John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Michael L. Oddenino" <oddlaw@pacbell.net> > >> Anyone have any information on George Caspar WAYMAN (WEIDMAN) father of >> Mary WAYMAN (WEIDMAN). >> >> I believe Mary married Adam UTZ the grandson of Johann George Utz >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3344 (20080810) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > >

---- "Michael L. Oddenino" <oddlaw@pacbell.net> wrote: > Does anyone have any data on Anna Barbara MEYER, wife of Hans George UTZ? Michael, Anna Barbara Maier is one of my favorite ladies of the early 1700. I have spent considerable reading and reading the Huffenhardt church records, as well as surrounding church records, to learn as much as possible about the Maier, Utz, and Volck families. Cathi gave a very good report about Anna Barbara Maier. That is all that is really known so far about the lady, herself. However, reading the church records and studying the history of the area gives one a marvelous feel for the lady and her children, both Volck and Utz. I was working on a study to about these folks. It was mainly to prove the surname Elisabetha, wife of Johann Dietrich Weber, aka Peter Weaver, I established ten reasons for believing such. I also have two more now, but I can not spend as much time composing as I need to. I believe without question that Anna Barbara (Volck) Utz, nee Maier, was the morther of Louisa Elisabetha Volck who became the wife of Hans Dietrich Weber, aka Peter Weaver. Hans Dietrich Weber's wife shows up in the Hebron Communion list as Lobis Elisabetha Weber. Lobis is the way it looks at first glance in the actual Communion book in the vault at the Bank in Madison. However, the more I study it the more I am certain that what looks very much like a 'b' is really a Germanic form of the 'u'. Then the ending letter that is assumed to be an 's' may just be two letters--an 's' and an 'e'. Thus, this would then be Louise Elisabetha (Volck) Weber. I need to find time to organize the material that shows Lobis appears in various records in the United States for what was actually Louise, Lewis, and other derivitives of Luis. If you have not heard, there is actually a small "mountain", really just a rise of sorts like the Iowa rolling hills, called Utzberg. This is on the Wagenbach Hof. The Utz came after the 30 year war to Wagenbach. However, Utzberg appears to be an ancient name on the Wagenbachof, This may suggest that the Utz family may have been there before the 30 year war and then returned later. Unfortunately, records from the church of Huffenhardt does not show any Utz in their earlier records. At least I haven't seent them. Cary > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anyone have any information on George Caspar WAYMAN (WEIDMAN) father of Mary WAYMAN (WEIDMAN). I believe Mary married Adam UTZ the grandson of Johann George Utz

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael L. Oddenino" <oddlaw@pacbell.net> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: [GERMANNA] Anna Barbara MEYER/UTZ > Does anyone have any data on Anna Barbara MEYER, wife of Hans George > UTZ? > Anna Barbara Majer, daughter of Hans Majer of Wolfartweyher [Wolfartsweiher], died about 1742 in Virginia (Wanda Miller Cunningham, "Who Was Agnes Harnsberger?," Beyond Germanna, Volume 12 No. 4, July 2000: 695-696). She married first Johann Michael Volck 29 January 1709 in Hüffenhardt, Baden (Gary J. Zimmerman and Johni Cerny, Before Germanna #4: The Ancestry of the Weaver, Utz and Folg Families, (Bountiful, UT: American Genealogical Lending Library, 1990), 33). He was born in Wagenbach and baptized 29 January 1663 in Hüffenhardt, Baden (John Blankenbaker from research by Margaret James Squires, "The Mother of My Wife", (Beyond Germanna, Volume 1 No. 1, January 1989: 5), and died 7 April 1714 in Wagenbach, Baden ("The Mother of My Wife": 4). She married second Johann Georg Utz aka George Utz/Oots/Woods 10 July 1714 in Hüffenhardt, Baden ("The Mother of My Wife": 5). He was baptized 12 April 1693 in Seiderzell (Before Germanna #4, 34), and died 1766 in Culpeper County, Virginia (Arthur Leslie Keith, "The German Colony of 1717 - Part 2," William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine, First Series, Volume XXVI, Number3, (January 1918): 189, will written 28 June 1753, probated 21 Aug 1766).

Does anyone have any data on Anna Barbara MEYER, wife of Hans George UTZ?

E. W.: I received this newsletter, today, and thought that those of you, who are searching for early KY records, might find this article interesting. I hope you find it helpful in your research. Linda Johnston Virginia Treasury Warrants Databases and other Kentucky Genealogy Delights http://sos.ky.gov/land This website now posts new databases for more than 23,000 treasury warrants for Virginia lands in what is now Kentucky. Under the May 1779 Virginia Land Law, warrants could be purchased from the Land Office for 40 pounds per 100 acres. And they include some 300 treasury warrants issued to George Rogers Clark to help him recruit the army 1) to subdue the Indians in the Indiana country and 2) to take the land for the Confederated States of America. The online database launch was announced at the NGS Conference in Richmond VA, 18 May 2007 Kentucky Secretary of State, Trey Grayson. The real significance in making these warrants available in fully indexed and searchable databases must not be underestimated. For all these many years we have been dependent upon transcribed versions of the records-issued by the Filson Club with segments reviewed in genealogy and historical periodicals by genealogists, land speculators, and historians trying to understand the early land system. Now you can examine these records yourself. Search spelling variants. Compare land entries made by the same men at different dates. Preview watercourses on which the lands lie and, using modern topographical maps, plot their boundaries with sophisticated digital mapping programs-who were the early neighbors? Did they actually take up residence on their lands? By what rights did your ancestor claim his land? Tomahawk? Corn? Cabin? Preemption? The warrants will tell you-did your ancestor receive a certificate of settlement? The databases include Lincoln entries, 1779-1792, preemption warrants, 1779-1780, and certificates, 1779-1780. There is full glossary and an online gazeteer to assist you in reading the documents and understanding where the land was located. I recommend that you search the databases along with these resources: VIRGINIA LAND RECORDS IN KENTUCKY AND OHIO: RICHARD CLOUGH ANDERSON COLLECTION - Registrar, Virginia Land Office and his son-in-law Allen Latham at Chillicothe, OH to 1822. 1. Illinois Historical Survey, University of Illinois at Urbana Ledger Book A on spine; in Archive Inventory Ledger Book 5 Cash Account Book, 1784-1799 Alpha list of names with year and page # in "Virginia Land Grants in Kentucky and Ohio, 1784-1799," by Clifford Neal Smith, National Genealogical Society Quarterly 61 (1973) 16-27. 10,000 items include large ledgers (includes warrants for French and Indian Wars) 2. Archives Division, Virginia Library, Richmond VA. 2,500 items. 3. Western Reserve Historical Society Collections, Cleveland, Ohio. 5 feet of archival material. Includes 4,000 Virginia Bounty-Land Warrants. 4. Virginia Land Office, Kentucky. 16,000 Bounty-Land Warrants in Kentucky Land grants in the Virginia Military District of Ohio Published: Kentucky Land Grants. 2 vols. 1925. Compiled by Willard Rouse Jillson. Filson Club Publication, No. 33-34; and Federal Land Series, Vol. IV: Grants in the Virginia Military Land District. Compiled by Clifford Neal Smith. Chicago: American Library Association, 1982-86. Study also Samuel M. Wilson, Catalogue of Revolutionary Soldiers and Sailors of the Commonwealth of Virginia to whom Land Bounty Warrants were Granted for Virginia Military Services in the War for Independence. Reprint of 1913 Year Book of the Kentucky Society of the SAR and 1917 Yearbook of Society of Colonial Wars in Kentucky. 1994. Southern Historical Press, P.O. Box 1267, 375 W. Broad Street, Greenville, SC 29602. Includes new index, and both warrants and surveys by bundle. 5. Early Kentucky Land Records, 1773-1780, by Neal O. Hammon. Louisville, KY: Filson Club Publications, 1992. A new reading of the original warrants, surveys, and military claims. Using computer property-mapping software, the author also provides land ownership maps for these early claims. 6. "Kentucky Land Lotteries, 1789-1800." Advertised in newspapers throughout the East, offered 40,000 acres in 150 Acre lots for $15.00 per ticket. 7. Eakle, Arlene H. and Linda E. Brinkerhoff. Early Kentucky Stations and Settlers before 1800. Family History World, P.O. Box 129, Tremonton, UT 84337. Your favorite Virginia genealogist, Arlene Eakle http://www.arleneeakle.com link: http://virginiagenealogyblog.com/2008/08/05/virginia-treasury-warrants-database-and-other-kentucky-genealogy-delights/ > Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 00:18:04 EDT > From: Hdanw@aol.com > Subject: [GERMANNA] Kemper Taxpayers in Early Kentucky > > Sandi Gorin is the web coordinator of Kentucky Research, URL given so that > you may subscribe. > > _KYRESEARCH-admin@rootsweb.com_ (mailto:KYRESEARCH-admin@rootsweb.com) > > > > Some of my Kemper ancestors settled in Garrard Co., KY and are found there > in some of the later censuses. They appear in these early tax lists, the > county given after the names. > > Kempers, also spelled Camper, and Kamper, were of the First Germanna > Colony, although John Kemper is said to have been a bachelor. > > These Kemper males in early Kentucky may be the cousins or uncles of the > Garrard Co., KY bunch. > > (Tip: Look for misspellings of your surnames. One of the families into > which/whom my families married were named Quisenberry. Sandi had some of > them > listed [as she found them] under C for Cusonberry or some such and also > under > G [for another variant]!) > > Kentucky did not become a state [commonwealth] until 1792, and some of the > early censuses are missing. Hence tax lists are fairly good census > substitutes. Sandi wrote that she did not have the original tax lists. > > Kentucky was attractive because of the ability to acquire land relatively > easy. Until well after the Revolution, primogeniture was the law in > Virginia. > One archivist said that for that reason the eldest son's name may be > omitted from Virginia wills. By law, the eldest son was entitled to the > land. > Hence the big migration to Kentucky probably by those who were not given > land by > their fathers [as some of the land-wealthy fathers did] or did not > inherit > land in Virginia. Of course, Pennsylvanians and North Carolinians poured > into > Kentucky also. > > KEMPER: Henry, _Fayette_ > (http://www.ancestry.com/facts/fayette-family-history.ashx) , 1790; > _Tilman_ > (http://www.ancestry.com/facts/tilman-family-history.ashx) , _Fayette_ > (http://www.ancestry.com/facts/fayette-family-history.ashx) > , 1790. > > Some of the Kempers, at least of Garrard Co., KY, formed from Mercer Co., > married a good many of their Holzclaw [variant spellings] cousins, some of > whom > across the Dick's River in Mercer Co. > > HOLTZCLAW: James, Nelson, 1792; Kelly, Nelson, 1792. > > > Unless you use the Archives for rootsweb, now owned by Ancestry.com, but > still free, you will not find past issues of these tax lists for KY > Research. > > KYRESEARCH Archives:http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kyresearch > > > For earlier appearances on tax lists of some of the Germanna colonists > who > removed to Kentucky, you might try to find in a library near you the > so-called > 1787 Census of Virginia, which included the then-counties of Kentucky, > still > part of Virginia in 1787. The title of the three volumes > > Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florine S. Love, The 1787 Census of Virginia. > > These are personal property tax lists and not real property tax lists. > They > are pretty good people finders for large numbers of Virginians and > Kentuckians, some of whom owned personal property in several > Virginia/Kentucky > counties. The third volume of this set is an index to the two preceding > volumes. > Some of the counties have three personal property tax lists, and some > widows > are listed. Use the index first, and if your surname is common, > photocopy the > index as there will be many entries, then arrange the page numbers in > numerical order so that you can peruse/photocopy the appropriate pages, > including > the key to the meaning of these tax lists. > > E.W.Wallace

In conjunction with the statement below, have you found that a guardian was appointed to protect the childrens' interests?  Perhaps brother or father of the deceased husband? Suzanne Collins Matson ----- Original Message ---- From: Craig Kilby persisto@earthlink.net 2)  A person died without a will, owned land and had a son or sons.  In such a case, all of the real property (not the personal property)  would become the property of the eldest son, subject to the widow's  dower rights of 1/3 interest in it for her life.  (It is often  written and stated that if the widow remarried, she lost her dower  rights.  This is not true.  One reads that sort of language when the  ENTIRE estate has been left to her in a life estate.  This is where  is usually written as "during her life or widowhood" or "if she  remarries."  This was not to punish the wife for remarrying.  That  was expected.  It was done to protect the childrens' interest in the  property.  Even though the widow retained her dower thirds for her  life, upon her death that interest reverted to her children by the  deceased husband, not to her current husband or any children she may  have had by a later marriage.)

To Larry and Jean, I did receive your mail. All spaminator does, is to put any unknown mail. In a special fail, away from other mail, until I can read, and give it an OK, for my in box. As for the two mails, that I send, to the Germanna_colonies site. It look to me, that they my have been, the cause of all the problems, on there site. There a few more mails, on The Yager Family, from Rockingham County, to be sent. I have been in contact, with this Sarge, in the past. And have not been happy, with anything, he has to say. I find, that if it is not about his own family line, he does not want to talk about them. But maybe, that is just me! Thank you, for your mail. Ray Grove -----Original Message----- >From: Larry and Jean <hallauer@tampabay.rr.com> >Sent: Aug 10, 2008 1:33 AM >To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GERMANNA] YAGER family > >THANK YOU, one and all, for your replies, explanations and suggestions concerning the blank e-mails I've been getting. And a special thank you to Ray Groves <redscorsair@peoplepc.com> for sending me the two e-mails about the YAGER family. I tried to write you directly but your email address is protected by PeoplePC "spaminator"... it considered my note to you "spam", and since I'm not on your "approved list", it is preventing my note from reaching you. But I do appreciate you sending them to me. > There was a lot of YAGER genealogy in those two e-mails and it would be a shame not to share it with the entire list, IF they didn't receive your e-mails also. So I hope you don't mind that I'm sending your info to Sarge. If they are not duplications (that I just didn't get), I'll let him post them for you. > Thanks again, Jean > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Since we are on the subject of primogeniture, we may as well discuss the law of Entail as well. This was repealed in Virginia in 1776. It was especially cumbersome for the transfer of real estate if deeds are wills were not clearly written to convey land. I'll use an example from a client case in Middlesex County. Thomas Kidd died there in 1680, possessed of two tracts of land he had received by Crown patent. In his will, he left one of these to his eldest son Thomas Jr. AND HIS HEIRS FOREVER. The other tract he left to his son William. Period. Not to his heirs and not forever. William's land, then, was basically only his for life, and at his death would revert to his brother Thomas. The word FOREVER, in Thomas Jr.s case meant just that--forever. It could not be sold outside of the family. This was called the "entail." Both William and Thomas Kidd II died in 1727. William had no will (though it would not have mattered as he had no right to the land he was living on after his death). Thomas Kidd II left a will but it did not mention any of his land. The governing laws went ignored by the heirs of both brothers. William Kidd's sons sold portions of their father's land over the years. The heirs of Thomas Kidd Jr. did likewise. This all came to a screeching halt and was reversed in court when Thomas Kidd III, eldest son of Thomas Kidd II, then living in North Carolina, sent his attorney William Upshaw Davis to Virginia to both (1) claim the land as his own and then (2) "dock" the entail enabling him to sell it with clear title. The latter required an Act of Assembly. He was successful on both counts. In some cases, he sold it back to the very same people he had "taken" it away from. Craig Kilby Lancaster, VA

This topic deserves further treatment. The law of primogeniture in Virginia was repealed in 1785. That is hardly "well after the Revolution." The law of primogeniture applied under two conditions: 1) A person had land but did not mention it in his will. In such a case, if the person had a son or sons, the land would automatically become the property of the eldest son (or only son). In this scenario, one may SOMETIMES find that an eldest son (or only son) not being named in a will because it was understood he was getting the land. One needs to make a careful review of the land records to prove such a father/son relationship. It should never be assumed simply because it conveniently solves a genealogical problem. 2) A person died without a will, owned land and had a son or sons. In such a case, all of the real property (not the personal property) would become the property of the eldest son, subject to the widow's dower rights of 1/3 interest in it for her life. (It is often written and stated that if the widow remarried, she lost her dower rights. This is not true. One reads that sort of language when the ENTIRE estate has been left to her in a life estate. This is where is usually written as "during her life or widowhood" or "if she remarries." This was not to punish the wife for remarrying. That was expected. It was done to protect the childrens' interest in the property. Even though the widow retained her dower thirds for her life, upon her death that interest reverted to her children by the deceased husband, not to her current husband or any children she may have had by a later marriage.) That land was cheap and available in Kentucky is without question. It would be a mistake, however, to make a conclusion that some one moved toKentucky simply upon the basis of the law of primogeniture in Virginia which was repealed in 1785. Craig Kilby Lancaster, VA On Aug 10, 2008, at 3:18 AM, germanna_colonies-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ky was attractive because of the ability to acquire land relatively > easy. Until well after the Revolution, primogeniture was the law > in Virginia. > One archivist said that for that reason the eldest son's name may be > omitted from Virginia wills. By law, the eldest son was entitled > to the land. > Hence the big migration to Kentucky probably by those who were not > given land by > their fathers [as some of the land-wealthy fathers did] or did not > inherit > land in Virginia

THANK YOU, one and all, for your replies, explanations and suggestions concerning the blank e-mails I've been getting. And a special thank you to Ray Groves <redscorsair@peoplepc.com> for sending me the two e-mails about the YAGER family. I tried to write you directly but your email address is protected by PeoplePC "spaminator"... it considered my note to you "spam", and since I'm not on your "approved list", it is preventing my note from reaching you. But I do appreciate you sending them to me. There was a lot of YAGER genealogy in those two e-mails and it would be a shame not to share it with the entire list, IF they didn't receive your e-mails also. So I hope you don't mind that I'm sending your info to Sarge. If they are not duplications (that I just didn't get), I'll let him post them for you. Thanks again, Jean

Sandi Gorin is the web coordinator of Kentucky Research, URL given so that you may subscribe. _KYRESEARCH-admin@rootsweb.com_ (mailto:KYRESEARCH-admin@rootsweb.com) Some of my Kemper ancestors settled in Garrard Co., KY and are found there in some of the later censuses. They appear in these early tax lists, the county given after the names. Kempers, also spelled Camper, and Kamper, were of the First Germanna Colony, although John Kemper is said to have been a bachelor. These Kemper males in early Kentucky may be the cousins or uncles of the Garrard Co., KY bunch. (Tip: Look for misspellings of your surnames. One of the families into which/whom my families married were named Quisenberry. Sandi had some of them listed [as she found them] under C for Cusonberry or some such and also under G [for another variant]!) Kentucky did not become a state [commonwealth] until 1792, and some of the early censuses are missing. Hence tax lists are fairly good census substitutes. Sandi wrote that she did not have the original tax lists. Kentucky was attractive because of the ability to acquire land relatively easy. Until well after the Revolution, primogeniture was the law in Virginia. One archivist said that for that reason the eldest son's name may be omitted from Virginia wills. By law, the eldest son was entitled to the land. Hence the big migration to Kentucky probably by those who were not given land by their fathers [as some of the land-wealthy fathers did] or did not inherit land in Virginia. Of course, Pennsylvanians and North Carolinians poured into Kentucky also. KEMPER: Henry, _Fayette_ (http://www.ancestry.com/facts/fayette-family-history.ashx) , 1790; _Tilman_ (http://www.ancestry.com/facts/tilman-family-history.ashx) , _Fayette_ (http://www.ancestry.com/facts/fayette-family-history.ashx) , 1790. Some of the Kempers, at least of Garrard Co., KY, formed from Mercer Co., married a good many of their Holzclaw [variant spellings] cousins, some of whom across the Dick's River in Mercer Co. HOLTZCLAW: James, Nelson, 1792; Kelly, Nelson, 1792. Unless you use the Archives for rootsweb, now owned by Ancestry.com, but still free, you will not find past issues of these tax lists for KY Research. KYRESEARCH Archives:http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kyresearch For earlier appearances on tax lists of some of the Germanna colonists who removed to Kentucky, you might try to find in a library near you the so-called 1787 Census of Virginia, which included the then-counties of Kentucky, still part of Virginia in 1787. The title of the three volumes Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florine S. Love, The 1787 Census of Virginia. These are personal property tax lists and not real property tax lists. They are pretty good people finders for large numbers of Virginians and Kentuckians, some of whom owned personal property in several Virginia/Kentucky counties. The third volume of this set is an index to the two preceding volumes. Some of the counties have three personal property tax lists, and some widows are listed. Use the index first, and if your surname is common, photocopy the index as there will be many entries, then arrange the page numbers in numerical order so that you can peruse/photocopy the appropriate pages, including the key to the meaning of these tax lists. E.W.Wallace **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

This is the address I had to use to get rr to unblock my Stewart List Mary blockhelp@security.rr.com John Hogg wrote: > In a political meeting I attended last night - it was mentioned that some of > the attendees had continuing trouble with rr and had to use other addresses. > > My business experience says some isp's are blocked from time to time for > excess spam then released to operate normally. > > I would check with my isp to see if the incoming is blocked. > > John > > > > -- Mary Ellis County Coordinator Alamance NCGenWeb http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mwellis/ http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncacgs/ http://ncgenweb.us/alamance/

Thank you, redscorsair, I rec'd it with no problem directly from you. Jean

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