I would love more information on Henry Huffman (could he also be related to the Freshour family, rather than Foushee?) **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002)
Yes, I would love to see the will as Huffman, Hoffman, Hufman, etc is one of my lines. Thanks, Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Kilby" <persisto@earthlink.net> To: "germanna colonies" <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 7:46:42 PM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago Subject: [GERMANNA] Will of Henry Huffman, Culpeper Will Book Q, p. 263 Germanna Listers, In the course of doing some work on the so-far enigmatic Foushee family of Culpeper, I ended up with this will of one Henry Hufman of Culpeper Count dated 26 March 1844. Yes, he signs by mark, name writtten as HENRY HUFMAN. one "f", an one "n,: Be that as it may, this young man is not married and names only one heir, his sister CONSTANT Hufman who was then living with him. Yes, two "t's". Not "Constance" but "Constant." Is any one interested in this? Craig Kilby ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am always interested in any Henry Huffman Hufman Hoofman etc data. I seem to have come down from a group of them. Very persistant in family name. Susi ************** Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity& ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002)
Germanna Listers, In the course of doing some work on the so-far enigmatic Foushee family of Culpeper, I ended up with this will of one Henry Hufman of Culpeper Count dated 26 March 1844. Yes, he signs by mark, name writtten as HENRY HUFMAN. one "f", an one "n,: Be that as it may, this young man is not married and names only one heir, his sister CONSTANT Hufman who was then living with him. Yes, two "t's". Not "Constance" but "Constant." Is any one interested in this? Craig Kilby
What he said(Michael Oddenino)!!!? All kidding aside, Craig, I, too, apologize for not sending my check.? I will be home on Sunday and I will send it post haste to you.? Thank you for the reminder and for the offer. Cheers! Barb Price -----Original Message----- From: Michael L. Oddenino <oddlaw@pacbell.net> To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 4:18 pm Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Article: Alexander Spotswood's Iron Empire Craig, I apologize as the tyranny of the urgent got the best of me. I have written the check and will post it tomorrow. Thanks and sorry for the delay, Michael Craig Kilby wrote: > A few weeks ago, I sent a message to this list about an article in > one of the back issues of the Northern Neck of Virginia Historical > Magazine titles as above. > > Several people replied want a copy of this, and I sent them > instructions to send a check for $5.00 to the Mary Ball Washington > Museum & Library. P. O. Box 97, Lancaster, VA 22503, ATTN: Craig Kilby > > for cost of copies and postage. All of them said they would do so > at once. > > On Tuesday, I thought those checks would have long since arrived, but > such was not the case. No one had sent anything. Would those who > said they were sending the money and DID send the money please > contact me off list so I can make sure you don't think I have dropped > the ball, you have changed your mind, or yes I sent the money and > what happened to it? This is one of those little things that bug me. > > Thanks, > > Craig Kilby > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
OOPS tomorrow I promise.. susi ************** Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002)
I am the person looking for Daniel Hitt. I am very familiar with the book you mention since I own a copy. I believe the book is listed as Germanna Record No. 1. The information given is minimal at best. I often use the LDS library catalog and use the Family History Center on a regular basis. Asking on the list was a last try for me having exhausted all other avenues. I am sorry you had a difficult time in Columbia SC. I am guessing you were visiting the SC Archives. Sherman and Cornwallis both did a lot of damage to courthouses and records when they marched through. Unfortunately, Sumter County really took a hit from them both. If you will contact me off list, I will see if I can find anything for you on your Revolutionary War sergeant. I use the archives on a regular basis.. Suzanne Collins Matson ________________________________ From: "Hdanw@aol.com" <Hdanw@aol.com> To: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 2:35:23 PM Subject: [GERMANNA] Hitt Family To the person or persons looking for information concerning the Hitt family, I suggest an online search of the Family History Library catalog at _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) Look for the tab labeled Library. Click on that. There is a drop-down menu--choose Surname. Type in the surname Hitt. There are multiple publications which name a family named Hitt, some of which probably do NOT pertain to a family of that name in colonial Virginia. However, this publication has been filmed, and possibly it is a publication of the Germanna Memorial Foundation although the catalog listing does not mention such. It is by B. C. (Benjamin Clark) Holttzclaw -- Peter Hitt, John Joseph Martin and Tilman Weaver of the 1714 colony and their descendants. Incidentally, my experience in Columbia SC for about a week, trying to find some earlier records of my Sumter Co., SC Revolutionary War sergeant was a lesson in frustration. The archivist told another patron: Not only was Cornwallis here, but also Sherman came through!!!! You figure!!! E.W.Wallace
Craig, I apologize as the tyranny of the urgent got the best of me. I have written the check and will post it tomorrow. Thanks and sorry for the delay, Michael Craig Kilby wrote: > A few weeks ago, I sent a message to this list about an article in > one of the back issues of the Northern Neck of Virginia Historical > Magazine titles as above. > > Several people replied want a copy of this, and I sent them > instructions to send a check for $5.00 to the Mary Ball Washington > Museum & Library. P. O. Box 97, Lancaster, VA 22503, ATTN: Craig Kilby > > for cost of copies and postage. All of them said they would do so > at once. > > On Tuesday, I thought those checks would have long since arrived, but > such was not the case. No one had sent anything. Would those who > said they were sending the money and DID send the money please > contact me off list so I can make sure you don't think I have dropped > the ball, you have changed your mind, or yes I sent the money and > what happened to it? This is one of those little things that bug me. > > Thanks, > > Craig Kilby > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
To the person or persons looking for information concerning the Hitt family, I suggest an online search of the Family History Library catalog at _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) Look for the tab labeled Library. Click on that. There is a drop-down menu--choose Surname. Type in the surname Hitt. There are multiple publications which name a family named Hitt, some of which probably do NOT pertain to a family of that name in colonial Virginia. However, this publication has been filmed, and possibly it is a publication of the Germanna Memorial Foundation although the catalog listing does not mention such. It is by B. C. (Benjamin Clark) Holttzclaw -- Peter Hitt, John Joseph Martin and Tilman Weaver of the 1714 colony and their descendants. At the top of the listing [on the screen which appears when you click on title] is *View Film Notes* If you are near an LDS center, you can order on loan that film--for a few bucks. If not, write to the Germanna Foundation and see what they have. However, I would look over all the other listings, as you may stumble on a cousin author--live or deceased!!! I think one of the Kempers had a Hitt bride!!! But they went to Kentucky and from there -- everywhere!!! Incidentally, my experience in Columbia SC for about a week, trying to find some earlier records of my Sumter Co., SC Revolutionary War sergeant was a lesson in frustration. The archivist told another patron: Not only was Cornwallis here, but also Sherman came through!!!! You figure!!! E.W.Wallace E.W.Wallace **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002)
A few weeks ago, I sent a message to this list about an article in one of the back issues of the Northern Neck of Virginia Historical Magazine titles as above. Several people replied want a copy of this, and I sent them instructions to send a check for $5.00 to the Mary Ball Washington Museum & Library. P. O. Box 97, Lancaster, VA 22503, ATTN: Craig Kilby for cost of copies and postage. All of them said they would do so at once. On Tuesday, I thought those checks would have long since arrived, but such was not the case. No one had sent anything. Would those who said they were sending the money and DID send the money please contact me off list so I can make sure you don't think I have dropped the ball, you have changed your mind, or yes I sent the money and what happened to it? This is one of those little things that bug me. Thanks, Craig Kilby
This message appeared on this list. I do not respond to gatewayed messages--there are too many hoops through which one must jump. But, here is a partial reply. The sources mentioned may be of help. See below for my response. E.W.Wallace : Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:33:14 -0000 From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] fellow descendantsof John Kemper and Alice Katrina Utterback To: <GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1227666796.482610@rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: misha412 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.germannacolo nies/185.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Please provide proof of your claim. We know of both Campers and Kempers in the descendency from the Germanna colonists. However, the histories that I have read indicate he was known as John Kemper after he settled. Are there primary source records that show he that he called himself John Camper? [above unsigned] Response from and confession of E.W.Wallace I really do not do a great deal of research on the Kempers in Virginia because I mostly work my way from *what I know* to the earliest days, rather than from the earliest days to the linkage which I have with the Kemper family--my paternal great-grandmother Amanda Jane Kemper, born in Texas ca 1845 but whose father was born most probably in Garrard Co., KY. About spelling--always regard the fact that the person making the records was generally the county clerk or the court clerk and not the principals themselves!!! Kemper, like many a German name, was spelled at least three ways: Kemper [modern spelling generally], Kamper and Camper. The difficulty I find is that the records list too MANY John Kempers!!! In Garrard Co., KY, where I do a good deal of my searching, there were two known John Kempers. No doubt they were related, but to what degree I know not. One was the grandfather of my great-grandmother. He lived near the Dicks River and his wife was Sarah Rosser. Another was probably a younger John Kemper who lived south of the elder John Kemper, and his wife was Judith Burdett [also spelled Burditt]. {I have written this from memory, and this may be in error) I suspect your best bet to study the early Kempers are 1) read the Kemper family genealogy on HeritageQuest, which database is available through many public libraries and some State libraries and 2) read the books of John K. Gott and others who have compiled books of Fauquier Co., VA. Fauquier Co. was formed 1759 from Prince William Co. Prince William Co. was formed in 1730 from Stafford and King George Cos. King George Co. was formed from Richmond County, and part of Westmoreland County was added later. My experience is that the records of Prince William Co. and of Stafford Co. are missing. The name of the book on HeritageQuest and also a film at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City is Kemper, Willis Miller Genealogy of the Kemper family in the United States: descendants of John Kemper of Virginia; with a short historical sketch of his family and of the German Reformed colony at Germanna and Germantown, VA. If you live near an LDS family history center, you probably can order--for a fee- the film of the Kemper genealogy from Salt Lake City. It is a hefty book. Not all Kempers seem to be included, but it will give you a start. The book is over 100 years old, so try to double check each family presented. This may not be easy to do, as I am certain that the later generations corresponded with Mr. Kemper--as I am certain my great-grandmother did. Even she, who had never been out of the State of Texas, made an error in the birthplace of her deceased husband!!! This book should be supplemented by some of the appropriate publications of the Germanna Memorial Foundation. Genealogy is NOT easy!!! E.W.Wallace **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002)
And happy hunting! Ed
Ruby Aylor Horvath of the Germanna Association Board and I were both there this evening. Vespers was said before the little congregation of eighteen people, with the bookcases of Germanna genealogies behind the makeshift altar for this new congregation. Rev. Shaw may be leading services for Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve at the Brawdus Martin Visitor Center. --- On Tue, 11/25/08, Marc Wheat <germanna1714@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Marc Wheat <germanna1714@yahoo.com> Subject: [GERMANNA] Thanksgiving Eve Worship Service at Germanna Visitor Center To: "Germanna Colonies List" <GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 4:07 PM Agnus Dei Church has made arrangements to hold a worship service at the Brawdus Martin Visitor Center, and are inviting the broader Germanna Family. I met Rev. James R. Shaw at the Visitor Center doing research on Rev. John Casper Stoever (b. 1685 d. 1739) of Hebron Lutheran Church. Rev. Shaw is the pastor of a church plant in the Fredericksburg area, presently worshipping at the Fredericksburg Campus of Germanna Community College. (See Rev. Shaw's write up below). The church plant, Agnus Dei, will be holding a worship service at the Visitor Center tomorrow on the eve of Thanksgiving, and is also planning Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve services at the Visitor Center. We are planning to bring my little platoon of Anglicans, Presbyterians, and Evangelische Gemeinschaftler staying at our home over Thanksgiving. We hope you can join us for this special event! Marc Wheat President Germanna Foundation --------------------------- Rev. James R Shaw http://www.adlutheran.org/ Agnus Dei Lutheran Church Spotsylvania County, VA 540-446-0777 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesrshaw +++ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We the members of Agnus Dei (Latin-Lamb of God) Lutheran Church invite members and friends of the Germanna Foundation to join us for a Thanksgiving Eve worship service on Wednesday November 26, 2008 at 6:30pm at the Germanna Visitor Center in Locust Gove, Virginia. We are a newly formed start-up congregation that is associated with the United Lutheran Mission Association. http://www.unitedlutheranmission.org. Feel free to tell your friends about this unique and new opportunity in the area. Some of our members used to travel 58 miles one way to get to a comparable Lutheran church service. We meet Sunday mornings at 9:00am at Fredericksburg Germanna Community College campus. The Agnus Dei connection with Germanna is interesting. Until we started holding services at the Germanna Community College in Fredericksburg , we were unaware of the historical connection we had with the Germanna colony of 1717. The people who are starting this congregation have a kinship in theology and practice with Rev. John Casper Stoever (b. 1685 d. 1739) and his son John Jr. (b. 1707 d. 1779). Both men were the first German Lutherans ordained in North America on April 8, 1733 in a barn at Trappe (New Providence), Pennsylvania where the Providence congregation worshiped. John Sr. was the first pastor to serve Hebron Lutheran Church 1733-1734 at the Robinson River Community (former Germanna Second Colony families). He is first recorded as serving communion there on the 2nd Sunday after Trinity ( June 18, 1733 ). John Jr. served as a Lutheran pastor in Trappe, New Holland, Lancaster and Lebanon Pennsylvania. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: misha412 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.germannacolonies/185.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Please provide proof of your claim. We know of both Campers and Kempers in the descendency from the Germanna colonists. However, the histories that I have read indicate he was known as John Kemper after he settled. Are there primary source records that show he that he called himself John Camper? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
About your *missing* Daniel Hitt: Some of these South Caroline folks moved to territory under Federal Jurisdiction after the Louisiana Purchase [Remember that event?]. Parts of Mississippi and Louisiana, in particular, were filled with persons leaving South Carolina after the invention of the cotton gin. If you can access a book by Dr. Anne Gregorie about Sumter Co., SC, you can read about these migrations. This is from a google.com search: _History of Sumter County, South Carolina. (Open Library)_ (http://openlibrary.org/b/OL6156580M) History of Sumter County, South Carolina. by Anne King Gregorie Published in 1954, Library Board of Sumter County (Sumter) ... The invention of the cotton gin allowed small farmers to plant more cotton, and, in the case of large families, whole families migrated to parts of what were included in Louisiana Purchase states. For a possible clue as to some of these migrations, particularly from the *Old South*, check the BLM [Bureau of Land Management] website at _http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/_ (http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/) However, if you are near a large genealogical library or a University library, try to check any online catalogs near you for a book entitled Grassroots of America by Phillip W. McMullin.. This is a computerized index of land grants appearing in American State Papers--some lands granted by the British and the Spanish before the Americans took over. Some of the volumes of American State Papers pertain to private claims.and the citizens were presenting them again to US Congress. I did a google.com search for Grassroots of American and came up with this info--which I tried to copy and paste. Hope the formatting is not too strange. _Public Lands and Claims in the American State Papers,1789–1837_ (http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2005/summer/state-papers.html) Although the CIS index is not as comprehensive as Grassroots of America for individual names, it can lead to information in the other classes of the ... www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2005/summer/state-papers.html - The Family History Library in Salt Lake City has microfiched this valuable index called Grassroots of America and it is on six microfiche NO. 6051323 Last time I ordered microfiche through my local LDS family history center, each fiche cost me 15 cents apiece. The price may have gone up!!! Remember, this is an index only--surname + given name and some volumes and pages--which pages pertain to American State Papers. These papers were compiled by Gales and Seaton on the orders of Congress. Many of these claims or papers pertaining to the claims had been burned during the War of 1812, when the British burned parts of Washington, DC. There was another edition of American State Papers, but the index mentioned pertains only to the Gales and Seaton edition. If you live near Houston and are not fearful about going into downtown Houston [some Houstonians I know decline to go there--but genealogists are generally fearless!!!], this will interest you: _American State Papers_ (http://www.houstonlibrary.org/clayton/clf/lr002.html) Clayton Library has the original volumes of American State Papers published by Gales and Seaton, two editions of Grassroots of America, and the Southern ... www.houstonlibrary.org/clayton/clf/lr002.html - 9k - Well, to test the BLM website, I searched the first tab--Land Patents--for Hitt in Mississippi, and found two screens full of them!!! Look for more recent books by Walter Lowrie, some of which have recently been republished by Southern Historical Press ca 1986. These are parts of another version of American State Papers, but, in some respects, they are quite detailed about early claims under the Spanish or the English. I did not find any Kempers in Mississippi [at least one county is named for Samuel and possibly Reuben Kemper], but when I looked in Louisiana, I found a few Kempers, including Samuel!!! Although this info may not help you locate your missing ancestor, you will have learned a lot about where you might search for people who got federal land from the Gulf of Mexico [but not Texas, which has its own land commission] to the Canadian border!!! After I heard a lecture long ago about Grassroots of America, a whole new world of genealogy opened up for me--and has kept me chasing Scotts and Kellers, formerly of South Carolina, through Mississippi,and Louisiana in the early days after the Americans took over!!! If you have any interest in the Kempers, do a google.com search for Samuel Kemper. The Handbook of Texas has a couple of detailed paragraphs about him!!! E.W.Wallace descended from another Kemper of Fauquier Co., VA and later of Garrard Co., KY In a message dated 11/25/2008 12:17:45 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, germanna_colonies-request@rootsweb.com writes: Suzanne Matson asked about Daniel Hitt formerly of Abbeville District SC. 1. Daniel Hitt, 1830's, SC (Suzanne Matson) <holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- She wrote: I am searching for a connection between Daniel Hitt listed as head of household in the 1830 census Abbeville District SC and known Germanna Hitt descendants living in the same area.? He was the son-in-law of Nathan Chaney and is named in Nathan's will.? Unfortunately, in this will Nathan does not refer to his daughter by name.? She is referred to as "my daughter who married Daniel Hitt".? So irritating!! This Daniel Hitt is not listed in the 1840 or later censuses in SC.? I think he may have moved elsewhere but currently have no idea where.? In the 1830's and 1840's SC suffered a net loss in population as people moved westward into Georgia, Alabama, etc.. Suzanne Collins Matson **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)
Agnus Dei Church has made arrangements to hold a worship service at the Brawdus Martin Visitor Center, and are inviting the broader Germanna Family. I met Rev. James R. Shaw at the Visitor Center doing research on Rev. John Casper Stoever (b. 1685 d. 1739) of Hebron Lutheran Church. Rev. Shaw is the pastor of a church plant in the Fredericksburg area, presently worshipping at the Fredericksburg Campus of Germanna Community College. (See Rev. Shaw's write up below). The church plant, Agnus Dei, will be holding a worship service at the Visitor Center tomorrow on the eve of Thanksgiving, and is also planning Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve services at the Visitor Center. We are planning to bring my little platoon of Anglicans, Presbyterians, and Evangelische Gemeinschaftler staying at our home over Thanksgiving. We hope you can join us for this special event! Marc Wheat President Germanna Foundation --------------------------- Rev. James R Shaw http://www.adlutheran.org/ Agnus Dei Lutheran Church Spotsylvania County, VA 540-446-0777 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesrshaw +++ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We the members of Agnus Dei (Latin-Lamb of God) Lutheran Church invite members and friends of the Germanna Foundation to join us for a Thanksgiving Eve worship service on Wednesday November 26, 2008 at 6:30pm at the Germanna Visitor Center in Locust Gove, Virginia. We are a newly formed start-up congregation that is associated with the United Lutheran Mission Association. http://www.unitedlutheranmission.org. Feel free to tell your friends about this unique and new opportunity in the area. Some of our members used to travel 58 miles one way to get to a comparable Lutheran church service. We meet Sunday mornings at 9:00am at Fredericksburg Germanna Community College campus. The Agnus Dei connection with Germanna is interesting. Until we started holding services at the Germanna Community College in Fredericksburg , we were unaware of the historical connection we had with the Germanna colony of 1717. The people who are starting this congregation have a kinship in theology and practice with Rev. John Casper Stoever (b. 1685 d. 1739) and his son John Jr. (b. 1707 d. 1779). Both men were the first German Lutherans ordained in North America on April 8, 1733 in a barn at Trappe (New Providence), Pennsylvania where the Providence congregation worshiped. John Sr. was the first pastor to serve Hebron Lutheran Church 1733-1734 at the Robinson River Community (former Germanna Second Colony families). He is first recorded as serving communion there on the 2nd Sunday after Trinity ( June 18, 1733 ). John Jr. served as a Lutheran pastor in Trappe, New Holland, Lancaster and Lebanon Pennsylvania.
I am searching for a connection between Daniel Hitt listed as head of household in the 1830 census Abbeville District SC and known Germanna Hitt descendants living in the same area. He was the son-in-law of Nathan Chaney and is named in Nathan's will. Unfortunately, in this will Nathan does not refer to his daughter by name. She is referred to as "my daughter who married Daniel Hitt". So irritating!! This Daniel Hitt is not listed in the 1840 or later censuses in SC. I think he may have moved elsewhere but currently have no idea where. In the 1830's and 1840's SC suffered a net loss in population as people moved westward into Georgia, Alabama, etc.. Suzanne Collins Matson
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jr_camper Surnames: CAMPER, KEMPER, UTTERBACK, COONTZ Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.germannacolonies/185.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I hate to ruin such a long exchange;but, Johannes Kemper immigrated to the Germanna Colony in 1715 and changed his name to John Camper. Some of his sons kept the Kemper name and you may be descended from them. John Camper married Alice Cathrina Utterback. Their son Harman Camper married Catherina Elisabeth Coontz (Kuntz). One of their sons was John W. Camper. From there this line is Peter Camper, John Lee Camper,Robert Withers Camper, William Thomas Camper, me. My grandson is the last male Camper in this line. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
They must have a pretty close relationship with Nathan and Jincey. She stayed close to them after Nathan's death. She and her mother in law, Rhoda, are named in the Cherokee Land Lottery of 1821, next to each other. My ancestress, Charlotte Holtzclaw Burnes, had moved to Tennessee with her family prior to Timothy's death, so all of those grand children were far away. I think that Royland Beasley is Jincey's brother. Barb In a message dated 11/19/2008 05:55:50 Pacific Standard Time, holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com writes: Wonder why Nathan names a daughter-in-law in his will? Most of the time daughters-in-law are not mentioned. Also in the Wilkes County Loose Papers is found the appointment of Royland Beasley as guardian of William B. Holtzclaw, orphan and minor of Nathan Holtzclaw, deceased. No date is given but would have been after 1814. Suzanne ________________________________ From: "RockCatt@aol.com" <RockCatt@aol.com> To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:55:30 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Timothy Holtzclaw and Rhoda Graham's children Yes, Jincy is the wife of Timothy and Rhoda's son, Nathan. She is Jincey Beasley, the daughter of Richard Beasley. Nathan died in 1814 and I do have this documentation about Jincey: From, "Early Records of Georgia, Vol. 1 and 2," Page 81: "REYNOLDS, GEORGE.......June 16, 1813.....Jincey Holtzclaw, Test. Page 96: "LEVERETT, WILLIAM, decd.......Jincy Holtzclaw named permanent Admx. Nathan Holtzclaw, decd. Henry and Elijah Holtzclaw and Leroy Sales, Security." Page 96--William Leverett, dec'd. Abraham Leverett appointed Admr. Silas Catching and William Ashmore, Security. Ezekiel B. Parks, dec'd. Robert Parks appointed Admr. Alsey Hartsfield, Security. Jincy Holtzclaw appointed permanent Admx. Nathan Holtzclaw, dec'd. Henry and Elijah Holtzclaw and Leroy Sales Security. Petition of Ludwell Fullilove, Admr. to sell the slaves of Nathaniel J. Pope, dec'd., for division. Page 265: "BEASLEY, RICHARD, dec'd. Inventory Nov. 15, 1810. Nathan Holtzclaw, admr. Churchwell blakey, Benjamin Smith and Christopher Binns, apprs. **Father of Jincey Holtzclaw Barb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001)
I love the instructions for burial! Very specific--wonder if they followed through? Suzanne ________________________________ From: "RockCatt@aol.com" RockCatt@aol.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Timothy Holtzclaw and Rhoda Graham's children I think this is Elijah Holtzclaw as a witness to his brother, Nathan's will in 1814: From, "Early Records of Georgia, Vol. 1 and 2," Page 115: "HOLTZCLAW, NATHAN. "To be decently buried on the east side of a walnut tree back of my garden with my head against the tree." To wife Jincy a tract of land described in my father's will adj. [to] Patsy Foster and Elizabeth Holtzclaw, also land on Beaverdam Creek, Slaves, household goods, etc. and the distributive share of the estate of Richard Beasley now coming to me, for widowhood, final division to wife Jincy and my two children, Lucinda Jordan Holtzclaw and William Beasley Holtzclaw. Joseph Henderson Jr., and Peter B. Terrell, Excrs. Signed August 8, 1814. Probated Nov. 7, 1814. Elijah Holtzclaw, Charles Kerr, Billy Kerr, Henry Holtzclaw, Test." Barb Price