I apologize for the delay, I was working on something else and let your email slide. As to the use of the name John Camper I refer you to sites about Germanna, particularly the one below http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/johnsgermnotes/index.html Pages 1, 9, 13, 18, 45, 63, 67, 87, 100 all mention John Camper several concerning the use of headrights filed by the Germanna colonists. Hope this helps. Bob J. R. Camper > [Original Message] > From: <Hdanw@aol.com> > To: <GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 11/26/2008 8:20:15 PM > Subject: [!! SPAM] [GERMANNA] John Kemper aka Camper > > This message appeared on this list. I do not respond to gatewayed > messages--there are too many hoops through which one must jump. But, here is a > partial reply. The sources mentioned may be of help. > > See below for my response. > > E.W.Wallace > > : > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:33:14 -0000 > From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] fellow descendantsof John Kemper and Alice > Katrina Utterback > To: <GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <1227666796.482610@rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: misha412 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.germannaco lo > nies/185.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Please provide proof of your claim. > > We know of both Campers and Kempers in the descendency from the Germanna > colonists. However, the histories that I have read indicate he was known as John > Kemper after he settled. > > Are there primary source records that show he that he called himself John > Camper? > > [above unsigned] > > Response from and confession of E.W.Wallace > > I really do not do a great deal of research on the Kempers in Virginia > because I mostly work my way from *what I know* to the earliest days, rather than > from the earliest days to the linkage which I have with the Kemper family--my > paternal great-grandmother Amanda Jane Kemper, born in Texas ca 1845 but > whose father was born most probably in Garrard Co., KY. > > About spelling--always regard the fact that the person making the records > was generally the county clerk or the court clerk and not the principals > themselves!!! Kemper, like many a German name, was spelled at least three ways: > Kemper [modern spelling generally], Kamper and Camper. > > The difficulty I find is that the records list too MANY John Kempers!!! In > Garrard Co., KY, where I do a good deal of my searching, there were two known > John Kempers. No doubt they were related, but to what degree I know not. > One was the grandfather of my great-grandmother. He lived near the Dicks > River and his wife was Sarah Rosser. > > Another was probably a younger John Kemper who lived south of the elder John > Kemper, and his wife was Judith Burdett [also spelled Burditt]. {I have > written this from memory, and this may be in error) > > I suspect your best bet to study the early Kempers are 1) read the Kemper > family genealogy on HeritageQuest, which database is available through many > public libraries and some State libraries and 2) read the books of John K. Gott > and others who have compiled books of Fauquier Co., VA. Fauquier Co. was > formed 1759 from Prince William Co. Prince William Co. was formed in 1730 from > Stafford and King George Cos. King George Co. was formed from Richmond > County, and part of Westmoreland County was added later. My experience is that > the records of Prince William Co. and of Stafford Co. are missing. > > The name of the book on HeritageQuest and also a film at the Family History > Library in Salt Lake City is > > Kemper, Willis Miller > Genealogy of the Kemper family in the United States: descendants of John > Kemper of Virginia; with a short historical sketch of his family and of the > German Reformed colony at Germanna and Germantown, VA. > > If you live near an LDS family history center, you probably can order--for a > fee- the film of the Kemper genealogy from Salt Lake City. It is a hefty > book. Not all Kempers seem to be included, but it will give you a start. The > book is over 100 years old, so try to double check each family presented. > This may not be easy to do, as I am certain that the later generations > corresponded with Mr. Kemper--as I am certain my great-grandmother did. Even she, > who had never been out of the State of Texas, made an error in the birthplace > of her deceased husband!!! > > This book should be supplemented by some of the appropriate publications of > the Germanna Memorial Foundation. > > Genealogy is NOT easy!!! > > E.W.Wallace > > **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW > AOL.com. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 002) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
<<In the baptismal record of Anna Magdalena WALCK, daughter of Peter WALCK nd his wife Anna Magdalena, 8 January 1703 in Flinsbach, the godmother is iven as "Anna Magdalena Jungfrau Matthäus Reiner Von Rappenheim.">> Tried to translate this...didn't seem to translate well. Anna Magdalena Virgin By Matthew Reiner centimes home Is Anna Magdalena the wife of Matthaus Reiner or the unmarried daughter? The translation would seem to indicate his unmarried daughter. I have Matthaus' wife as Anna Barbara(?) and she may also have been the wife of my ancestor Fredrich Dietrich Reiner. Unknown relationship between Fredrich and Mattaus Reiner. Thanks, Dan Cook Germanna Reiner descendant
Yes, there was a Robinson in the trans-mountain expedition of 1716. However, it is hard to identify just which one of several possible candidates he was. John Fontaine does sometime refer to him as Dr. Robinson. One of the camps was named Robinson's camp and some people say it referred to Christopher Robinson. -- John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "John Hogg" <john.hogg@sbcglobal.net> > Hmmm, You don't suppose there was a Robinson in Spotswoods expedition to the > Shenandoah? > > > What is the source of the name "Robinson River" > where so many of our Germanna folks ended up? >
I have been reveiwing some material as I await the microfilm of the church records of Bonfeld. I want to double check to see if I missed the George Lang/Long and his wife Rebecca in the Bonfeld records. This information shows up in the new page showing the 1717 Colony from the Kraichgau. I have once again found I have missed some surnames as most of the female immigrants appear only with there husband's surname clearly listed in the Settlers Lists. I still suggest that additions are needed when the wife's surname is known. This should be an addition in the alphabetical listings. This way the females maiden names will really stand out as does the husbands do now. Previously, in the prior 1717 Colony listing, there was no village of origin given for George Lang/Long. I do believe that the Motz wife of George Lang was given as being from that village. I look at who is suppose to be the father of Rebecca Motz and wonder about that, also. Rebecca, wife of George Lang, seems to be the daughter of Johann Motz and Maria Polona/Appollonia Harnsberger of Bonfeld. Does anyone have definite data from the church records of Bonfeld regarding the Motz and or Lang families and would be willing to share? I do not have, as far as I know, a connection to the Motz or Lang families; however,Bonfeld caught my eye as it is only a mile south of Bad Rappennau. In my earlier research, I determined that Bad Rappennau and Bad Rappenheim were one and the same. I am subject to correction is someone has different information. The 1771 list also has the following couple: Cook/Koch, Johann Michael and wife Maria Barbara Reiner of Schwaigern. Schwaigern is about 4 miles south and west a bit of Bonfeld. Bonfeld being about 1 miles south of Bad Rappennau, makes these village rather close. In the baptismal record of Anna Magdalena WALCK, daughter of Peter WALCK and his wife Anna Magdalena, 8 January 1703 in Flinsbach, the godmother is given as "Anna Magdalena Jungfrau Matthäus Reiner Von Rappenheim." Peter Walck was the father of Hans Martin WALCK born 18 January 1705 in Flinsbach. Hans Martin Walck is believed to be the Martin Walck found in the early 1730s in the Robinson River area and married by 1735 a daughter of Michael Clore of Gemmingen. Hans Martin Walck also purchased land jointly with Tobias Wilhoit of the Schwaigern Wilhoits. Can anyone able to add anything to this Flinsbach/Bad Rappenheim-Rappennau/ Bonfeld/Schwaigern/Gemmingen mingling of families in the Old World prior to coming to Virginia? Or can anyone clarify to Lang/Motz Bonfeld connection? Any discussion would be most helpful as would be e-mails to me at drcary@cox.net.
I have not found an actual "List", but I did find most of the party named in Fontaine's diary. Barb In a message dated 12/13/2008 14:23:10 Pacific Standard Time, wwallace@muskingum.edu writes: Is there a list of who was on this expedition? Julie ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > There was a Robinson in Spotswood's expedition, it was Dr. > Robinson and a camp was named after him. I've found > that this group named various runs, rivers, camps, etc. > after the people that took part in the expedition. > > I've been reading John Fontaine's Diary regarding the > whole affair and while on the expedition, they named the > various camps, runs and mountains for the people that > were there: > > Expedition Run > Beverly Camp--Robert Beverly > Todd's Camp > Dr. Robinson's Camp > Taylor's Camp > Col. Robertson's Camp > Brooke's Camp (also called Rattlesnake Camp) > Spotswood Camp > Mount George > Mount Spotswood > Hospital Camp--several of the members, and servants, > became ill and stayed here > Capt. Clouder's Camp & Clouder's Run > Mason's Camp > Capt. Smith's Camp > Fontaine's Spring > > Barb Price > > > > In a message dated 12/13/2008 06:35:50 Pacific Standard > Time, john.hogg@sbcglobal.net writes: > > Hmmm, You don't suppose there was a Robinson in > Spotswoods expedition to the Shenandoah? > > > What is the source of the name "Robinson River" > where so many of our Germanna folks ended up? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, > email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid > =emlcntaolcom00000010) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)
Is there a list of who was on this expedition? Julie ----- Original Message Follows ----- > > There was a Robinson in Spotswood's expedition, it was Dr. > Robinson and a camp was named after him. I've found > that this group named various runs, rivers, camps, etc. > after the people that took part in the expedition. > > I've been reading John Fontaine's Diary regarding the > whole affair and while on the expedition, they named the > various camps, runs and mountains for the people that > were there: > > Expedition Run > Beverly Camp--Robert Beverly > Todd's Camp > Dr. Robinson's Camp > Taylor's Camp > Col. Robertson's Camp > Brooke's Camp (also called Rattlesnake Camp) > Spotswood Camp > Mount George > Mount Spotswood > Hospital Camp--several of the members, and servants, > became ill and stayed here > Capt. Clouder's Camp & Clouder's Run > Mason's Camp > Capt. Smith's Camp > Fontaine's Spring > > Barb Price > > > > In a message dated 12/13/2008 06:35:50 Pacific Standard > Time, john.hogg@sbcglobal.net writes: > > Hmmm, You don't suppose there was a Robinson in > Spotswoods expedition to the Shenandoah? > > > What is the source of the name "Robinson River" > where so many of our Germanna folks ended up? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > **************Make your life easier with all your friends, > email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid > =emlcntaolcom00000010) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the message
____________________________________ From: RockCatt To: GERMANNA_COLONIES-admin@rootsweb.com Sent: 12/13/2008 13:00:33 Pacific Standard Time Subj: Fwd: [GERMANNA] Speaking of Robinsons For some reason, my email didn't come thru to the List, so I'm sending it again. Barb Price ____________________________________ From: RockCatt To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: 12/13/2008 09:07:22 Pacific Standard Time Subj: Re: [GERMANNA] Speaking of Robinsons There was a Robinson in Spotswood's expedition, it was Dr. Robinson and a camp was named after him. I've found that this group named various runs, rivers, camps, etc. after the people that took part in the expedition. I've been reading John Fontaine's Diary regarding the whole affair and while on the expedition, they named the various camps, runs and mountains for the people that were there: Expedition Run Beverly Camp--Robert Beverly Todd's Camp Dr. Robinson's Camp Taylor's Camp Col. Robertson's Camp Brooke's Camp (also called Rattlesnake Camp) Spotswood Camp Mount George Mount Spotswood Hospital Camp--several of the members, and servants, became ill and stayed here Capt. Clouder's Camp & Clouder's Run Mason's Camp Capt. Smith's Camp Fontaine's Spring Barb Price In a message dated 12/13/2008 06:35:50 Pacific Standard Time, john.hogg@sbcglobal.net writes: Hmmm, You don't suppose there was a Robinson in Spotswoods expedition to the Shenandoah? What is the source of the name "Robinson River" where so many of our Germanna folks ended up? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________ Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. _Try it now_ (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) . ____________________________________ Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. _Try it now_ (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) . **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)
There was a Robinson in Spotswood's expedition, it was Dr. Robinson and a camp was named after him. I've found that this group named various runs, rivers, camps, etc. after the people that took part in the expedition. I've been reading John Fontaine's Diary regarding the whole affair and while on the expedition, they named the various camps, runs and mountains for the people that were there: Expedition Run Beverly Camp--Robert Beverly Todd's Camp Dr. Robinson's Camp Taylor's Camp Col. Robertson's Camp Brooke's Camp (also called Rattlesnake Camp) Spotswood Camp Mount George Mount Spotswood Hospital Camp--several of the members, and servants, became ill and stayed here Capt. Clouder's Camp & Clouder's Run Mason's Camp Capt. Smith's Camp Fontaine's Spring Barb Price In a message dated 12/13/2008 06:35:50 Pacific Standard Time, john.hogg@sbcglobal.net writes: Hmmm, You don't suppose there was a Robinson in Spotswoods expedition to the Shenandoah? What is the source of the name "Robinson River" where so many of our Germanna folks ended up? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)
In TN. We have Robinsons living on the same side of the county as the Broyles, Wilhoits, other German families etc. Maybe they came from VA at the same time. Some where I have a Robinson connection. Doloros B. Horne Washington Co., TN -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Craig Kilby Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:56 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANNA] Speaking of Robinsons I posted here yesterday the quip in the Lancaster County Order Book of 1782 about poor Eleazar Robinson. This actually came to my attention as part of a client report on the Robinson family of Lancaster and Northumberland Counties I am working on. This entailed doing a fairly thorough review of the basic court records for this family, going back to the emigrant, Giles Robinson, in 1656. This was necessary to establish the identity and placement of the clients ancestor who went to Arkansas ca 1852. That being said, it strikes that MANY, MANY of these Robinsons moved elsewhere in the early and mid 1750s (and afterwards), because they simply disappear from the records. This makes me wonder about something I've never looked into, and this may be the perfect list to pose the question. What is the source of the name "Robinson River" where so many of our Germanna folks ended up? I realize "Robinson" is a common enough name, and there were certainly many by that name in early Virginia, not just the ones I am working on. I'm really only asking this out of my own curiosity. It has nothing to do with the client report. Also, if any of you have stray Robinson ancestors, maybe this work (authorized to be shared by the client) could be of help. Craig ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
test -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Craig Kilby Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:56 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANNA] Speaking of Robinsons I posted here yesterday the quip in the Lancaster County Order Book of 1782 about poor Eleazar Robinson. This actually came to my attention as part of a client report on the Robinson family of Lancaster and Northumberland Counties I am working on. This entailed doing a fairly thorough review of the basic court records for this family, going back to the emigrant, Giles Robinson, in 1656. This was necessary to establish the identity and placement of the clients ancestor who went to Arkansas ca 1852. That being said, it strikes that MANY, MANY of these Robinsons moved elsewhere in the early and mid 1750s (and afterwards), because they simply disappear from the records. This makes me wonder about something I've never looked into, and this may be the perfect list to pose the question. What is the source of the name "Robinson River" where so many of our Germanna folks ended up? I realize "Robinson" is a common enough name, and there were certainly many by that name in early Virginia, not just the ones I am working on. I'm really only asking this out of my own curiosity. It has nothing to do with the client report. Also, if any of you have stray Robinson ancestors, maybe this work (authorized to be shared by the client) could be of help. Craig ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hmmm, You don't suppose there was a Robinson in Spotswoods expedition to the Shenandoah? What is the source of the name "Robinson River" where so many of our Germanna folks ended up?
I posted here yesterday the quip in the Lancaster County Order Book of 1782 about poor Eleazar Robinson. This actually came to my attention as part of a client report on the Robinson family of Lancaster and Northumberland Counties I am working on. This entailed doing a fairly thorough review of the basic court records for this family, going back to the emigrant, Giles Robinson, in 1656. This was necessary to establish the identity and placement of the clients ancestor who went to Arkansas ca 1852. That being said, it strikes that MANY, MANY of these Robinsons moved elsewhere in the early and mid 1750s (and afterwards), because they simply disappear from the records. This makes me wonder about something I've never looked into, and this may be the perfect list to pose the question. What is the source of the name "Robinson River" where so many of our Germanna folks ended up? I realize "Robinson" is a common enough name, and there were certainly many by that name in early Virginia, not just the ones I am working on. I'm really only asking this out of my own curiosity. It has nothing to do with the client report. Also, if any of you have stray Robinson ancestors, maybe this work (authorized to be shared by the client) could be of help. Craig
A small file has been sent to your personal address. J. On Dec 12, 2008, at 7:28 PM, shelby allen wrote: > PLEASE SEND ANY INFO U MIGHT HAVE...THANKS...SHELBY > > --- On Tue, 12/9/08, J Palermo <jjpal25@kc.rr.com> wrote: > > From: J Palermo <jjpal25@kc.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] DICK YEAGER > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 2:11 PM > > That is the same Richard Yager that ran with Quantrill. He was the > son of Judge James Barnes Yager and Mary Jane Berry. Grandson of > Ananias Yager and Great grandson of Cornelius Yager and Elizabeth > Fisher. He is the only James Yager that I know of that was present > at that time in Missouri and a member of Quantrill's Raiders. > I sent a message in a previous post, which has not appeared yet, > that I would be happy to send a file on this fellow. I have a great > deal on him. > > J. > > On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Cathi Clore Frost wrote: > >> Hi Shelby, >> >> I looked through my notes and can't find anyone who matches your Dick >> Yeager. I assume Dick was a nickname for Richard? >> >> There was a Richard Francis Yager born 28 March 1839, died 12 >> August 1864 >> that married Mary or Martha J. Muir 22 December 1860 in Jackson >> County, >> Missouri. >> >> Cathi >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "shelby allen" <lilfilly1957@yahoo.com> >> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:38 PM >> Subject: [GERMANNA] DICK YEAGER >> >> >> does anyone have info in dick yeager- may 1863 missoui or kansas >> he went on raids with frank & jessie james and the cole brothers. >> who was he?? who were his parents ?? when and where was he born ?? >> and if he was married , what was his wife's name ?? also did he >> have any >> children..?? >> any info would be helpful....thanks shelby >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
PLEASE SEND ANY INFO U MIGHT HAVE...THANKS...SHELBY --- On Tue, 12/9/08, J Palermo <jjpal25@kc.rr.com> wrote: From: J Palermo <jjpal25@kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] DICK YEAGER To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 2:11 PM That is the same Richard Yager that ran with Quantrill. He was the son of Judge James Barnes Yager and Mary Jane Berry. Grandson of Ananias Yager and Great grandson of Cornelius Yager and Elizabeth Fisher. He is the only James Yager that I know of that was present at that time in Missouri and a member of Quantrill's Raiders. I sent a message in a previous post, which has not appeared yet, that I would be happy to send a file on this fellow. I have a great deal on him. J. On Dec 9, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Cathi Clore Frost wrote: > Hi Shelby, > > I looked through my notes and can't find anyone who matches your Dick > Yeager. I assume Dick was a nickname for Richard? > > There was a Richard Francis Yager born 28 March 1839, died 12 > August 1864 > that married Mary or Martha J. Muir 22 December 1860 in Jackson > County, > Missouri. > > Cathi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "shelby allen" <lilfilly1957@yahoo.com> > To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:38 PM > Subject: [GERMANNA] DICK YEAGER > > > does anyone have info in dick yeager- may 1863 missoui or kansas > he went on raids with frank & jessie james and the cole brothers. > who was he?? who were his parents ?? when and where was he born ?? > and if he was married , what was his wife's name ?? also did he > have any > children..?? > any info would be helpful....thanks shelby > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
There are problems in searching for Neuenbürg (note the correct spelling, also Neuenbuerg is correct). First, there are two Neuenbürgs that are only about twenty miles apart so finding the correct one is not easy. Better perhaps to use Oberöwisheim as a search locality. Oberöwisheim is only two miles from the Neuenbürg that we want and the Protestant families here went to church in Oberöwisheim -- John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net
I am sorry that I am having a bit of problem today with my computer or my fingers??? Anything you have received previously about searching the area, delete and/or scratch it out. 76703 Kraichtal-Münzesheim is the name of the muncipality. A lot of times Münzesheim is not found in the muncipality name. Within this municipaly, a number of villages are found: Bahnbrücken Gochsheim Landshausen Menzingen Münzesheim Neuenbürg Oberacker Oberöwisheim Unteröwisheim All correspondence starts with the village name, then on the next line the postal code and municipality name: 76703 Kraichtal-M ---- gneolog@aol.com wrote: > I am trying to see if there are any (and if so, how many) THOMA's listed in the German telephone book for the area that our family came from. I put NEUENBERG in as the town and need to pick one of these three to be more specific. Which one would be the closest? 79843 07654 Neuenburg - Löffingen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
---- drcary@cox.net wrote: > Neuenburg Postal code 75305 is the one you want. At Google, enter: Neuenburg 75305. There are many hits. Cary ---- gneolog@aol.com wrote: > I am trying to see if there are any (and if so, how many) THOMA's listed in the German telephone book for the area that our family came from. I put NEUENBERG in as the town and need to pick one of these three to be more specific. Which one would be the closest? 79843 07654 Neuenburg - Löffingen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Neuenburg Postal code 75305 is the one you want. At Google, enter: Neuenburg 75305. There are many hits. Cary ---- gneolog@aol.com wrote: > I am trying to see if there are any (and if so, how many) THOMA's listed in the German telephone book for the area that our family came from. I put NEUENBERG in as the town and need to pick one of these three to be more specific. Which one would be the closest? 79843 07654 Neuenburg - Löffingen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Craig, I could not agree with you more but when we read various documents we do need to keep an open mind on how things were then. Yes there was humor, to exempt a dead person was a bit, carried away and it did make it appear there was deep resentment there. Also if your following any medical history of your family you would want to note this. It may be very important to a descendant. It may mean nothing. I always enjoy reading your thoughts I think it helps us all to be better genealogists. Thanks. Seasons' Blessings Susi ************** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)
Craig, I am probably older than you are and remember when Income tax started in the US and there was lots of folks who didn't like that. I had a cousin who sent some income tax in during World War 11 and said he did it because of the war but wouldn't continue when the war was over. LOL I joined the classmate .com thing a few years ago and was able to get in touch with class mates I had seen since high school. I enjoyed that very much but they started charging my credit card when they didn't have the authority to do so and they make it almost impossible to get in touch with them. So beware of clicking on anything to do with them. Frances In a message dated 12/12/2008 12:26:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, persisto@earthlink.net writes: Susi: To your list of possible ailments might be added narcolepsy. Also we could just take the words for just what they said. We don't know. We weren't there. I think the point here was that the clerk apparently did not like this man, and took it upon himself to write these words for ALL MANKIND TO REMEMBER (ironcially)...so he yet survives today on here, this internet list called Germanna. So that is a good thing. And, you must admit Susi, if you can't find some humor in this, you are really missing the point. Remember the index to this book simply said "Eleazar Robinson exempted from taxes". Well, since he was "dead and buried" I would certainly think so! Also remember, this was in 1782, the year Virginia enacted the property tax and this was April, before the list was made. I have a suspicsion that Eleazar Robinson was quite opposed to this new tax system, and this clerk, or this court, or both, did not appreciate his comments and for all we know, public tirades against it. Hence, his "being exempted" as he was now "dead and buried", etc. You really can't put your modern viewpoints on what what was going on then. The next entry for him was "WIll of Eleazar Robinson Found". This is in the index. The actual entry is a normal presentation of a will, though it was some 9 months later. You can just get a feel that this clerk hated this man, for some reason or another. But that we will probably never know. So......just take it all just for what it is, in those times. We shouldn't force our modern-day opinions on any of these people. I don't think they'd much appreciate it. Craig On Dec 12, 2008, at 3:00 AM, germanna_colonies-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > WEll that is sad. HOW intolerate we were of our fellow mans ills. > Today t > here is a term for that. > Sleep APnea for one. Diabetic another. I wonder are we really > more > tolerant and understanding. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)