The new Germanna website is progressing and contains a lot of wonderful Germanna data. Membership renewals can now be made online http://www.germanna.org/catalog/4/membership What a great Christmas present idea! Lots of people have been working hard on the re-design of the Germanna website and if you haven't explored it, I'm sure you will enjoy it: http://www.germanna.org/ Any browser should work fine in exploring the site now. Your ideas on how to make the Germanna site even better are always welcome. Enjoy and Merry Christmas, Michael
Thank you, everyone has done off, the deep end! Ray Groves -----Original Message----- >From: List Admin <GermannaResearch@comcast.net> >Sent: Dec 19, 2008 1:34 AM >To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com >Subject: [GERMANNA] DNA, Religion, Personal Anecdotes, etc. (Off Topic) > >Folks, it's time to stop all this "off topic" posting! > >No more comparing DNA science with religion! > >No more posting personal DNA stories/anecdotes! > >If it doesn't relate DIRECTLY to Germanna genealogical research, >don't post it! > >This is not a "general-public bulletin board". It is a Mailing List >for discussion of our Germanna ancestors. If your post doesn't >relate directly to "Germanna" don't post it. > >'Nuff Said, >Sarge >List Admin > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com
Whether one agrees or not, evolution is science. ----- Original Message ----- From: <KiwisKeeper@aol.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Topics that flame are supposed to be off the listanyways >I agree but I don't want to hear about evolution either because that is a > religion. > > > In a message dated 12/18/2008 8:06:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > poetrywaif@ca.rr.com writes: > > Maybe we need to leave religion, politics and the civil war out of this >> discussion group and all just agree to have their own personal >> [unpublished] >> opinion > > **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release Date: 12/18/2008 8:06 PM
Let's not try to be grammar police when we change the meaning of the post and we seem to have a problem with apostrophe usage. ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Camper" <jrcamper@earthlink.net> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] DNA study question > "If it my husband and I..." Lets try to keep English alive > > J. R. Camper > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Suzanne Matson <holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com> >> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> >> Date: 12/18/2008 9:32:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] DNA study question >> >> If it were me or my husband, that is exactly what I would do. But it > isn't about us and I feel that it is rather rude and insensitive to tell > someone to just get over it. I do know he talked to his parents about the > result. I don't know what they said. Since his brothers did match and he > did not, this leaves some questions that he may want answered but the > parents may not be willing to answer. I think this would be a huge shock > if there were no hint or "family lore" out there lurking. >> >> Suzanne Collins Matson >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: ROBERT NICHOLSON <robertnicholson1@cox.net> >> To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:46:29 AM >> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] DNA study question >> >> You just file the information away and move on. There is no point in >> getting upset about it at this late date. >> >> My own DNA testing proved "family lore" that my surname should be be >> something else so the results were not a shock. It seems that one of my >> direct ancestors used the surname of his step-father rather than the > surname >> of his actual father. >> >> In addition, I know of a case where a family researcher had expended a >> tremendous amount of time and energy in researching what she thought was > her >> ancestral line. When her father finally took the DNA test, it came back >> that they did not connect with their own surname line. That did come as > a >> shock to her. >> >> So the message is to just accept the results and keep on trucking. >> >> Robert Nicholson >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Suzanne Matson" <holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com> >> Subject: [GERMANNA] DNA study question >> >> >> How have various family groups dealt with the following scenario which >> happened in my husband's family? >> >> Y-DNA studies were done to see if various lines were related. One came > back >> as completely unrelated. The parents of the person tested are living. He > had >> grown up in his family thinking of course that he was a biological child > of >> both parents. Needless to say, this person is devastated and the family > is >> in real turmoil. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1855 - Release Date: 12/18/2008 10:16 AM
At Saturday 06-12-08 07:36 AM, Linda Johnston wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Where's George Durman? I haven't seen a posting from him for several >months. Usually, by the time the list discussions get so far astray from >genealogy, he's on top of the situation. Honestly, I don't think that flaming >somebody, due to their choice of computer or browser, is called for on this >list. If you have a problem with what a person says, with regard to such >subjects, please have the courtesy of writing to that person PRIVATELY. > >While I'm on my "soapbox", there is a problem that does affect all of us, who >read the postings. There is waaay too much duplication of the originals, when >a person is responding to a posting. I'm sure that most of us know how to >"clean up" those responses, so that the relevant information we are responding >to, is available. There is no necessity for reposting all of the previous >postings, when we are responding to only one aspect of one. This takes the >people, who are reading the postings a lot of extra time, especially when we >receive the list in digest mode. Not only is it time consuming, it puts a lot >of unnecessary duplication in the archives, thus using an inordinate amount of >storage space. So, as George would say, "Use Snip in your responses." It >would be deeply appreciated. > >Linda Johnston **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Linda, I'm here, just a little late. (GRIN) As a rule, I try not to step in at the beginning, believing that the "thread" or "flame" will play itself out quickly, as it did with this subject. You do realize that I DO have a life aside from monitoring this and the other three dozen or so Mailing Lists? Plus the Rootsweb/Ancestry Message Boards for all those List? BUT I DO AGREE WITH YOUR SECOND PARAGRAPH, 1000%! I have posted countless emails to this and the other Lists I manage, begging posters to snip out all but really pertinent text when replying to posts. As anyone can see, no one pays any attention to such pleading. Most people are just too lazy to use the mouse, highlight, and delete text from their replies. Well, either too lazy or just too uninformed. Anyway, thanks for the reminder about "snipping" out unnecessary text when replying. Regards, Sarge List Admin (P.S. I'm not "missing", just temporarily "lost". I have a brother-in-law who says that no one can ever say they were "lost". If they found their way back, they were just "temporarily misplaced".)
Folks, it's time to stop all this "off topic" posting! No more comparing DNA science with religion! No more posting personal DNA stories/anecdotes! If it doesn't relate DIRECTLY to Germanna genealogical research, don't post it! This is not a "general-public bulletin board". It is a Mailing List for discussion of our Germanna ancestors. If your post doesn't relate directly to "Germanna" don't post it. 'Nuff Said, Sarge List Admin
At Thursday 18-12-08 12:00 PM, marsha moses wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Ok, I promise that this is my last note on this theme....Certainly I >did not mean to open up a religious discussion! One can absolutely >believe the Biblical creation without discounting DNA. The DNA >mutations happened AFTER the creation! Let's not get into an argument >about HOW men and women got their DNA....all we need to discuss is >what the DNA mutations mean to our research. Marsha Moses >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** May I step in here? OK. Let's discuss DNA as it applies to our Germanna ancestors and leave the religious aspect out of our discussions. If your religion doesn't accept DNA science, believe your religion but keep your beliefs to yourself. Don't keep butting your head against hard scientific proof just because you don't want to believe it. Let those who DO believe in DNA science continue their discussions about DNA as it relates to our Germanna families and please do not start "flame wars". Regards, Sarge List Admin
Amen, brothers and sisters -- and cousins, Let's get back to what this list is all about. Ed P.S. Merry Christmas! -----Original Message----- From: KiwisKeeper@aol.com To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 8:54 pm Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Topics that flame are supposed to be off the list anyways I agree but I don't want to hear about evolution either because that is a religion. In a message dated 12/18/2008 8:06:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, poetrywaif@ca.rr.com writes: Maybe we need to leave religion, politics and the civil war out of this > discussion group and all just agree to have their own personal > [unpublished] > opinion **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I agree but I don't want to hear about evolution either because that is a religion. In a message dated 12/18/2008 8:06:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, poetrywaif@ca.rr.com writes: Maybe we need to leave religion, politics and the civil war out of this > discussion group and all just agree to have their own personal > [unpublished] > opinion **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)
Marsha: Since I have more than enough historical FACT to deal with, I'll leave the MYTHOLOGY and FICTION to those, who appreciate it. As far as the "clan mothers" are concerned, I don't plan on my research extending that far back. I prefer to deal with people, who have two names and a "paper trail". When that ends, I'll continue on another line. Thanks for your input. Linda Johnston > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:49:38 -0500 > From: marsha moses <mosesm@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] The Seven Mothers of Man > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <52482DBE-DB97-4504-B19B-A014C49604B0@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > The correct name of Brian Sykes' book on the mtDNA is The Seven > Daughters of Eve....and while the author takes the liberty of using > Historical Fiction methods to describe the seven women who are said to > be the clan mothers of most of the European or American of European > descent people, most of his book tells about his own very scientific > studies on DNA. It is extremely readable and fun. Marsha Moses
Trying to find the information I had read about twins not having the same DNA, I Googled: DNA did not match twins Try it. There are only 267,000 hits. That should be enough reading to last a life time. I stopped after a few, but read enough to see that just because something seems amiss may not be so. There is enough there that it just may be that some new subject can come up that will help find those Germanna ancestor lurking in the records just waiting to be discover. "Ain't no DNA testing going read those obscure records."
Chimera J. R. Camper > [Original Message] > From: Carrol Mick <carrol@allthroughtheages.com> > To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> > Date: 12/18/2008 10:05:46 AM > Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [GERMANNA] DNA study question > > Well I just watched something on tv about the dna of a mother not matching > her children. She was their biological mother but the tests kept coming up > that they were not her children. There is a term for it but I cannot think > of it right now. Her children were taken away from her until it could be > proven that they were her children. Sometimes this could happen. > Also when my relatives learned from me that their father and grandfather was > adopted I received about half good responses and half horrible responses. > to this day I have half of my cousins saying that I am wrong and won't > believe that my grandfather on my father's side was adopted. They would not > speak to me for years. I have the original adoption papers that not even > the court has, I have proven it, but they still say no. I have met the > grandchildren of my grandfather's sister and there are similarities and > such. One must take it one second and step at a time. Some will be > completely upset and others accepting. I grew up in a variety of households > never really knowing who my real family was, but my real family are all of > those blood related and not and those that raised me and those that never > knew me. > My older half brother absolutely is in denial about his birth father after > 40 years of searching because he doesn't want to believe. He is mad at me > for finding this out and won't speak to me about it. I figure the man that > he wants to be his biological father that was never around is not his father > and the father that is biological that was never around is not his father > but my father who raised him was his father. And all of the relatives that > want to get to know him are his relatives and those that don't want to be > bothered are not family. but he doesn't see it that way. > that is all I have to offer I hope it helps. > > Carrol Mick > > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Suzanne Matson < > holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > How have various family groups dealt with the following scenario which > > happened in my husband's family? > > > > Y-DNA studies were done to see if various lines were related. One came > > back as completely unrelated. The parents of the person tested are living. > > He had grown up in his family thinking of course that he was a biological > > child of both parents. Needless to say, this person is devastated and the > > family is in real turmoil. > > > > I am not saying don't do DNA studies but I am asking how you would deal > > with this. > > > > As we work on our various Germanna lines, we may encounter the above > > situation at some point. > > > > Suzanne Collins Matson > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Carrol Mick > Mick Worms, LLC > www.mickworms.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
"If it my husband and I..." Lets try to keep English alive J. R. Camper > [Original Message] > From: Suzanne Matson <holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com> > To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> > Date: 12/18/2008 9:32:35 AM > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] DNA study question > > If it were me or my husband, that is exactly what I would do.� But it isn't about us and I feel that it is rather rude and insensitive to tell someone to just get over it.� I do know he talked to his parents about the result.� I don't know what they said.� Since his brothers did match and he did not, this leaves some questions that he may want answered but the parents may not be willing to answer.� I think this would be a huge shock if there were no hint or "family lore" out there lurking.� > > Suzanne Collins Matson > > > > > ________________________________ > From: ROBERT NICHOLSON <robertnicholson1@cox.net> > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:46:29 AM > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] DNA study question > > You just file the information away and move on.� There is no point in > getting upset about it at this late date. > > My own DNA testing proved "family lore" that my surname should be be > something else so the results were not a shock.� It seems that one of my > direct ancestors used the surname of his step-father rather than the surname > of his actual father. > > In addition, I know of a case where a family researcher had expended a > tremendous amount of time and energy in researching what she thought was her > ancestral line.� When her father finally took the DNA test, it came back > that they did not connect with their own surname line.� That did come as a > shock to her. > > So the message is to just accept the results and keep on trucking. > > Robert Nicholson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzanne Matson" <holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com> > Subject: [GERMANNA] DNA study question > > > How have various family groups dealt with the following scenario which > happened in my husband's family? > > Y-DNA studies were done to see if various lines were related. One came back > as completely unrelated. The parents of the person tested are living. He had > grown up in his family thinking of course that he was a biological child of > both parents. Needless to say, this person is devastated and the family is > in real turmoil. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Cousin John, I second that motion as it is something I agreed upon when signing up for Rootsweb mailing lists. Sincerely, Erin T. Crowe IBSSG Let my kisses fall, Upon your starry eyes, The windows of your soul, Where all true beauty lies. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hogg" <john.hogg@sbcglobal.net> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] The Seven Mothers of Man > Maybe we need to leave religion, politics and the civil war out of this > discussion group and all just agree to have their own personal > [unpublished] > opinion. > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.0.386) Database version: 5.11370 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/
I think what you are referring to is a chimera. That can be a person who has two sets of DNA. It is thought that may result from a set of twins that merge very early in the gestation process. If the mother's DNA is sampled , it may not match that of her offspring because the "wrong" DNA was in the sample. A second sample from a different part of the mother, however, may match the offspring. In at least one case was later determined that the mother was a chimera and had different DNA in different parts of her body. Carrol Mick wrote: Well I just watched something on tv about the dna of a mother not matching her children. She was their biological mother but the tests kept coming up that they were not her children. There is a term for it but I cannot think of it right now. Her children were taken away from her until it could be proven that they were her children. Sometimes this could happen. Also when my relatives learned from me that their father and grandfather was adopted I received about half good responses and half horrible responses. to this day I have half of my cousins saying that I am wrong and won't believe that my grandfather on my father's side was adopted. They would not speak to me for years. I have the original adoption papers that not even the court has, I have proven it, but they still say no. I have met the grandchildren of my grandfather's sister and there are similarities and such. One must take it one second and step at a time. Some will be completely upset and others accepting. I grew up in a variety of households never really knowing who my real family was, but my real family are all of those blood related and not and those that raised me and those that never knew me. My older half brother absolutely is in denial about his birth father after 40 years of searching because he doesn't want to believe. He is mad at me for finding this out and won't speak to me about it. I figure the man that he wants to be his biological father that was never around is not his father and the father that is biological that was never around is not his father but my father who raised him was his father. And all of the relatives that want to get to know him are his relatives and those that don't want to be bothered are not family. but he doesn't see it that way. that is all I have to offer I hope it helps. Carrol Mick On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Suzanne Matson < [1]holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com> wrote: How have various family groups dealt with the following scenario which happened in my husband's family? Y-DNA studies were done to see if various lines were related. One came back as completely unrelated. The parents of the person tested are living. He had grown up in his family thinking of course that he was a biological child of both parents. Needless to say, this person is devastated and the family is in real turmoil. I am not saying don't do DNA studies but I am asking how you would deal with this. As we work on our various Germanna lines, we may encounter the above situation at some point. Suzanne Collins Matson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2]GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com 2. mailto:GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com
Hi Corlee, Chuck Yeager is not a Germanna Descendant, but there is a good possibility that his ancestor who went from Germany to Pennsylvania, and then to Western Virginia (later West Virginia) could have been a brother of our Nicholas. Dan Zimmerman, whom we all met in Winnweiler, on your last trip to Germany, was looking for this connection, as well as the connection of Adam of Woodstock to Nicholas, but I believe he was transferred back to the States before he completed his on the ground research in Germany. Thom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Corlee Morris" <cmorris575@att.net> To: "Germanna List" <GERMANNA_COLONIES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:20 PM Subject: [GERMANNA] Does anyone know if Chuck Yeager is a GermannaDescendent? > > I would sure like to get a sample of Chuck Yeager's DNA. He could well be > a Germanna Descendant. When my father read his autobiography he thought > that he was possibbly related. > > Corlee Ann Morris > > > --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Rock Racer <rracer@embarqmail.com> wrote: > >> From: Rock Racer <rracer@embarqmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Calling all Males with the last name of Yager or >> Yeager >> To: cmorris575@att.net, germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com >> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 11:53 AM >> There is a Mark Yeager in the Elkton, Virginal telephone >> directory: (540)
Mike Oddenino sends me a correction as to whom to blame for the destruction of the Library at Alexandria. While the Holy Mother Catholic Church has her hands stained on many occasions, this atrocity may be one she is not guilty of. There are apparently many suspects. A good read which concludes with the obvious: "The real tragedy of course is not the uncertainty of knowing who to blame for the Library's destruction but that so much of ancient history, literature and learning was lost forever." And forever is a LONG time. Here is the link to the full article. http://ehistory.osu.edu/world/articles/ArticleView.cfm?AID=9
There is some discussion and interest on this list in DNA testing for genealogical purposes. Before you - males and females - get all excited that the results of DNA testing are going to solve ALL your genealogical problems, I highly recommend you some research, not only on the internet but at your local library. You might start with Wikipedia and use search terms *Bryan Sykes* After a brief bio of Sykes, look at the menu on the lower left and click on Books. Sykes has written some interesting books, principally for the layman, and the results of the DNA testing are interesting, at least from an academic standpoint. At the same time, to me, a rather senior citizen, his conclusions kind of wander off into less than convincing arguments. Perhaps that is because of my former career, in which I had to deal with harsh realities in families. I received a handout at a large genealogical conference sometime ago about ISOGG - International Society of Genetic Genealogy. There is a website: _http://www.isog.org_ (http://www.isog.org) Maybe you can find some explanations there to help you. If you are a female, you can be linked to your mother, your maternal grandmother, your maternal great-grandmother, and so on. Because of name changes, you may never find the answer--unless you have already determined who is your maternal 2nd great-grandmother! and her mother before her!! The DNA tests are not so helpful!!!! All because Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA). Look up that word or phrase in Wikipedia and tell me what you think!!! So for most of us females--unless we can persuade a male of the same family with our maiden name to be tested--it's back to the microfilm readers, the books, the internet, etc. and hard research for us females!!! E.W.Wallace **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)
Susi, I agree with you. We had a surname that matched some one else name and the surname that my family has known all of their lives for generations.. it was my mother's maiden name. For several hundred years they had this name. From the 1700's forward it is proven. The man in charge of the DNA roots web DNA group has been so rude to me and told me to get more DNA or not to post. I didn't say anything that would have bothered anyone except to say get re tested if you didn't think it was correct that labs makes mistakes. He send's me personal e-mails and is just awful. I am really upset about the findings and more upset about the man being rude to me. I wanted him to post what he is saying to me in the group and allow everyone to see how mean he is. He said my mother being a 101 had nothing to do with this being right or wrong. Well, the person I talked to at FTDNA told me this happened about 100 yrs ago. So, I know that wasn't right and has been proved by DNA. My mother is 101 and I wouldn't ever tell her. She wouldn't believe it and I don't either. A thing like this hurts and to have people heading up the DNA groups that are mean as the devil doesn't help. I ask him to not address me or send any more e-mails to me that I have a mind of my own and he will not control what I have to say. In other words, I am not allowed to discuss this painful thing. I am doing two more people in the family. We are an exact match to a brother of my gr.gr. grandfather. The man who heads up that group sent me and e-mail and said it won't do any good they are in the same family. He doesn't know that because I didn't tell him but did tell someone I was getting one rechecked and doing another family member. In all of this. we have to have a heart for that person even when they say it doesn't bother them.. I believe it does. Frances In a message dated 12/18/2008 2:25:23 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, SusiCP@aol.com writes: First you have them check to make sure not mixed up with someone elses tests. Then if you do not match I would think one would keep thy mouth shut if the people are alive. Only if there is a serious medical situation would I reveal something as greivous as this to any envovled. If the person did this test and learned not of whom they thought it would be up to that person to make decision to relate it or to just say I do not match the lineage I was expecting too. It may not have been parents it could have been grandparents ie ggrandparents??? I guess that is why I am happy with using Mtdna for some of my research backup. Blessings and Seasons Best Wishes. Susi ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolco m00000025) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)
---- Suzanne Matson <holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com> wrote: "All his brothers matched, but he didn't." I wish that I had kept the article about the twin boys that didn't match. I don't recall anymore that that, but it was pointed out the odds of such happening, and it is within quite a bit less than the present population. Did anyone else see this article? This just could be the true in this case, or as someone said, a bad read in the lab. My surname is Anderson. I have never had a perfect match with an Anderson. One marker off of one. But, I have over a hundred matches with folks that don't have the Anderson surname. The commerical companies explains it by saying that we all go back to male before surnames were used. Then, they encouraged me to do the more expensive tests; in fact, quite expensive tests in my opionion, to narrow things down. Nah, don't think so.