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You'll have to unsubscribe as per the instructions below and then re-subscribe with your new address... However, for all practical purposes, I'm thinking that this list is now abandoned in favor of those whom are willing and able to PAY! And it helps if you're a little Grandiose... <g> -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wetaunah Cates Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:36 PM To: GERMANNA_COLONIES@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANNA] email address changes Whom do I contact about my email address changes, then, how do I know I'll continue receiving posts here to this list ? Tonnie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Thanks, I will do that. I will contact the church tomorrow and go in to get a copy. I am thrilled about getting this. Frances In a message dated 1/4/2009 2:44:58 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, elkehall@cox.net writes: If you have any problems with the words or need a translation, then I would be glad to help. Just scan the record and send it to me by email. Elke -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KiwisKeeper@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 5:35 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wilheit in Schwaigern Yes, there is a church near me and they help with genealogy. In a message dated 1/4/2009 12:13:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, elkehall@cox.net writes: Frances, the film is available through the LDS libraries. Is there one close to where you live? Elke -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KiwisKeeper@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:07 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wilheit in Schwaigern Where can I get a copy of the baptism. That is my line of Wilhites. Thanks, Frances In a message dated 12/28/2008 3:00:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, drcary@cox.net writes: I am wondering about the record of Johann Christian Wilheit's baptism in Schwaigern that Al Welch photographed on the Germanna Tour 2009. I have tried to see if I could make out the spelling, but it seems to be a too grainy to be certain. It does seem to me that it is Wilheit. However, I would like Al's opinion on this. The spelling in Schwaigern has always been reported as Willert and is reported that way on the settler's list. I am not a Wilheit descendent; however, have interest in this family as Tobias Wilheit interacted with my Martin Walck. Al if you see this, I hope you can inform us. Cary Anderson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 025) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

If you have any problems with the words or need a translation, then I would be glad to help. Just scan the record and send it to me by email. Elke -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KiwisKeeper@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 5:35 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wilheit in Schwaigern Yes, there is a church near me and they help with genealogy. In a message dated 1/4/2009 12:13:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, elkehall@cox.net writes: Frances, the film is available through the LDS libraries. Is there one close to where you live? Elke -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KiwisKeeper@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:07 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wilheit in Schwaigern Where can I get a copy of the baptism. That is my line of Wilhites. Thanks, Frances In a message dated 12/28/2008 3:00:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, drcary@cox.net writes: I am wondering about the record of Johann Christian Wilheit's baptism in Schwaigern that Al Welch photographed on the Germanna Tour 2009. I have tried to see if I could make out the spelling, but it seems to be a too grainy to be certain. It does seem to me that it is Wilheit. However, I would like Al's opinion on this. The spelling in Schwaigern has always been reported as Willert and is reported that way on the settler's list. I am not a Wilheit descendent; however, have interest in this family as Tobias Wilheit interacted with my Martin Walck. Al if you see this, I hope you can inform us. Cary Anderson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 025) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, there is a church near me and they help with genealogy. In a message dated 1/4/2009 12:13:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, elkehall@cox.net writes: Frances, the film is available through the LDS libraries. Is there one close to where you live? Elke -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KiwisKeeper@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:07 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wilheit in Schwaigern Where can I get a copy of the baptism. That is my line of Wilhites. Thanks, Frances In a message dated 12/28/2008 3:00:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, drcary@cox.net writes: I am wondering about the record of Johann Christian Wilheit's baptism in Schwaigern that Al Welch photographed on the Germanna Tour 2009. I have tried to see if I could make out the spelling, but it seems to be a too grainy to be certain. It does seem to me that it is Wilheit. However, I would like Al's opinion on this. The spelling in Schwaigern has always been reported as Willert and is reported that way on the settler's list. I am not a Wilheit descendent; however, have interest in this family as Tobias Wilheit interacted with my Martin Walck. Al if you see this, I hope you can inform us. Cary Anderson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 025) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

Elke, You are such a good person. Years ago you helped me with the German with my Schaefer family and it took me back 3 generations. Barbara Rector Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elke Hall" <elkehall@cox.net> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wilheit in Schwaigern > If you have any problems with the words or need a translation, then I > would > be glad to help. Just scan the record and send it to me by email. Elke > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > KiwisKeeper@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 5:35 PM > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wilheit in Schwaigern > > Yes, there is a church near me and they help with genealogy. > > > In a message dated 1/4/2009 12:13:21 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > elkehall@cox.net writes: > > Frances, the film is available through the LDS libraries. Is there one > close to where you live? Elke > > -----Original Message----- > From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > KiwisKeeper@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:07 PM > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wilheit in Schwaigern > > Where can I get a copy of the baptism. That is my line of Wilhites. > Thanks, > > Frances > > > In a message dated 12/28/2008 3:00:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > drcary@cox.net writes: > > I am wondering about the record of Johann Christian Wilheit's baptism > in > Schwaigern that Al Welch photographed on the Germanna Tour 2009. > > I have tried to see if I could make out the spelling, but it seems to be > a > too grainy to be certain. It does seem to me that it is Wilheit. > However, > I would like Al's opinion on this. The spelling in Schwaigern has > always > been reported as Willert and is reported that way on the settler's list. > I > am not a Wilheit descendent; however, have interest in this family as > Tobias > Wilheit interacted with my Martin Walck. > > Al if you see this, I hope you can inform us. > > Cary Anderson > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. > (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 > 025) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making > headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Frances, you might check the following film No. FHL INTL Film [ 2125560 ]and FHL INTL Film 1184789 : Taufen, Heiraten, Tote 1600-1699 Taufen 1700-1776 Heiraten 1700-1789 Taufen 1776-1789 Tote 1700-1789 Tauf-, Heirats-,Toten-Index 1730-1810 Taufen 1789-1807 Heiraten 1789-1805 Tote 1789-1807 Heiraten 1805-1807 Taufen 1808-1866 FHL INTL Film 1184789 : Title Kirchenbuch, 1600-1789 Authors Evangelische Kirche Schwaigern (OA. Brackenheim) (Main Author) Notes Mikrofilm aufgenommen von Manuskripten im Evangelischen Landeskirchlichen Archiv Stuttgart. Family book of the the Lutheran church in the city of Schwaiger, Württemberg. Subjects Germany, Württemberg, Schwaigern - Church records Format Manuscript (On Film) Publication Salt Lake City, Utah : Gefilmt durch The Genealogical Society of Utah, 1998 Physical 1 Mikrofilmrolle ; 35 mm. Film Notes Note - Location [Film] Familienblätter A-F 1600-1789 -- G-L 1600-1789 -- M-S 1600-1789 -- Sch-Z 1600-1789 - FHL INTL Film [ 2125560 ] -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elke Hall Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 3:13 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wilheit in Schwaigern Frances, the film is available through the LDS libraries. Is there one close to where you live? Elke -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KiwisKeeper@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:07 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wilheit in Schwaigern Where can I get a copy of the baptism. That is my line of Wilhites. Thanks, Frances In a message dated 12/28/2008 3:00:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, drcary@cox.net writes: I am wondering about the record of Johann Christian Wilheit's baptism in Schwaigern that Al Welch photographed on the Germanna Tour 2009. I have tried to see if I could make out the spelling, but it seems to be a too grainy to be certain. It does seem to me that it is Wilheit. However, I would like Al's opinion on this. The spelling in Schwaigern has always been reported as Willert and is reported that way on the settler's list. I am not a Wilheit descendent; however, have interest in this family as Tobias Wilheit interacted with my Martin Walck. Al if you see this, I hope you can inform us. Cary Anderson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 025) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Frances, the film is available through the LDS libraries. Is there one close to where you live? Elke -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of KiwisKeeper@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:07 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wilheit in Schwaigern Where can I get a copy of the baptism. That is my line of Wilhites. Thanks, Frances In a message dated 12/28/2008 3:00:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, drcary@cox.net writes: I am wondering about the record of Johann Christian Wilheit's baptism in Schwaigern that Al Welch photographed on the Germanna Tour 2009. I have tried to see if I could make out the spelling, but it seems to be a too grainy to be certain. It does seem to me that it is Wilheit. However, I would like Al's opinion on this. The spelling in Schwaigern has always been reported as Willert and is reported that way on the settler's list. I am not a Wilheit descendent; however, have interest in this family as Tobias Wilheit interacted with my Martin Walck. Al if you see this, I hope you can inform us. Cary Anderson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000 025) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ll33477 Surnames: Huffman/Hoffman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.germannacolonies/591.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks, Debby. I've subsequently discovered thru 1880 Census that my Hoffmans WERE Huffmans from Madison County (Culpeper) VA. William H. Huffman (b. 8 OCT 1848, d. 19 JUL 1919) Mary Adeline Huffman (no relation - b. 17 Feb 1849, d. 1928) Children as follows (all born in Madison County up to Daisy): M Judson H. Huffman b 16 Aug 1868, d. 16 JUL 1928 M Joseph W. Huffman b 23 Jun 1870, d. 8 Mar 1944 F Lizzie Huffman b 25 Jul 1872 d. 5 Aug 1948 M Marion Huffman b 23 Jun 1874 d. 25 Apr 1964 M Seldon W. Huffman b 6 Jul 1876 d. 16 Mar 1893 M Hubert N. Huffman b 22 Oct 1877 d. 2 Jul 1929 F Daisy A. Huffman/Hoffman b 21 Nov 1879 d. 7 Jan 1956 M Ernest Y. Huffman/Hoffman b 15 Apr 1883 d. 22 Jan 1962 F Lilian Huffman/Hoffman b 6 Aug 1884 d. 18 Jul 1938 F Virginia M. Huffman/Hoffman b 9 May 1889 d. 1957 M William Fred Huffman/Hoffman b 2 Feb 1895 There are two more siblings but I can't read the writing well from this family bible. I do not know William's or Mary's parents (William didn't give to Census nor his place of birth) and only have family info. on Daisy. Any ideas on how to track further back on William/Mary? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

All: I posted this to the Germanna Foundation Message Board, but wanted to share it with the entire list. A group of us are working on documenting, scanning, posting and most of all CITING all of the official records to be had. This will be a very long project, to say the least, but the journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step. We see here that the "many sided Spotswood" had indeed had some contact with Baron DeGraffenried, though exactly what is not explained here. Here is what I posted: Further to our efforts to document original source material, this item is taken from the *Executive Journals, Council of Virginia.* Source: H. R. McIlwaine, Editor, Executive Journals of the Council of Colonial Virginia, Vol. III (Richmond: The Virginia State Library, 1928. Reprint, 1976), 371-372. "April the 29th 1714 The Governor acquainting the Council that sundry Germans to the number of forty two men women & children who were invited hither by Baron de Graffenried are now arrived, but that the Said Baron not being here to care of their Settlement The Governor therefore proposed to settle them above the falls of the Rappahannock River to serve as a Barrier to the Inhabitants of that part of the Country against the Incursions of the Indians & desiring the opinion of the Council whether in consideration of their usefulness for that purpose the Charge of building them a Fort, clearing a road to their Settlement & carrying thither two pieces of Canon & some Ammunition may not properly be defrayed by the publick. It is the unanimous opinion of this Board that the sd Settlement tending so much to the security of that part of the Frontiers. It is reasonable that the expense proposed by the Governor in making thereof should be defrayed at the publick Charge of the Government, & that a quantity of powder & ball be delivered for their use out of her Majesties Magazine. And because the sd Germans arriving so late cannot possibly this year cultivate any ground for their Subsistance much less be able to pay the publick Levy of the Government It is the opinion of this Board that they be put under the denomination of Rangers to exempt them from that Charge. ANd for the better enabling the sd Germans to Supply by hunting the want of other provisions It is ordered that all other persons be restrained from hunting on any unpatented Lands near that settlement"

I know it's off topic. But I just wanted to wish you all a very Happy New Year and hope that 2009 is full of links and finds to our families. Rhonda Cowan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wfredduncan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.germannacolonies/6.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Just noticed your post. I have recently found a Henry Holtzclaw (actually spelled "Holtsclaw" with an "S") in old Granville Co., NC records for the year 1764. I have a Y-DNA connection to the John Duncan who married Elizabeth Holtzclaw in circa 1760 She is buried at Sumpter Cem in Floyd Co Va. and had bro. Henry. Now what is so interesting about your note is that my ancestors also tie back to the Duke family of Bute/Granville Co., NC (Duke University bunch). Furthermore, my ancestor, Ambrose Harrison Duncan married Martha Slaughter(Schlotterer) daughter of Jacob Schlotterer who imigrated from Germany in 1749. He is said to have married a Hoffman or Huffman, but can't find any info on his wife, so she is not documented. Just interesting co-incidences, don't you think ? 1764 Tax list was for Robert Harris distr of Granville Co., NC. Can only find this one entry for Henry Holtsclaw in 1700's Granville Co.,NC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LRodgers63 Surnames: Holtzclaw, Holsclaw, Rodgers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.germannacolonies/6.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Saw your post on Ancestry. community. My line is Jacob Holtzclaw--John Henry--James--James--William H. Holsclaw--Caroline m. John E. Rodgers--Edward--Everett-Larry. The book by B.C. Holtclaw is very useful (Germanna Foundation) and I have contacted 7th cousins descended from Jacob's other sons. I have a pretty complete file on William H. Holsclaw's descendants. LRodgers63@hughes.net. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi, This looks like new info that might finally tie in Germanna Willheits with the later Pa./Md. Willheits, who arrived in Pa. in 1731. I have seen Frey/Willhide connections in Graceham, Md.? Ed <clip> --- From Elke Hall -- "The Frey's and the Wilheits also have a connection in Pennsylvania: Maria Magdalena Willheit born 17 Sep 1712 in Schwaigern married 15 Apr 1735 at the Holy Trinity Church at Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Martin Frey the son of Tobias Frey and Maria Peter. Maria Magdalena was daughter of Johann Friederich Willheit born 8 Jan 1686/87 Schwaigern and Wilhelmina Lucretia Hafner born 27 Nov 1683."? (These folks show up in my Willhide research) Ed

Elke, Thank you for posting that information. I recall some of it, but not all. My objective is to clarify the name in the Settler's List as well as for Willheit/Wilheit/Wilhoid/Wilhytd/ etc. descendents. The listing of birth and marriage records from the IGI for Wilheit of Schwaigern has a number of spellings. Of course, we know this is true of many names of the time. I am having a difficult time understanding how Willert is the name so many Wilheit descendents state as the name found in the church books in Schwaigern. It just goes to show that once something makes the rounds, it is difficult to correct it. Some of the spellings seen in the IGI did give some suggestion as to how Wilheyt could have been taken to be Willert as the ÿ might have looked somewhat like an "r". You asked: "Are we mixed up yet?" I am rather certain that a bunch of us are mixed up for sure. Thanks for all your help with these families. Cary

I looked through the Schwaigern film a few years ago and there are at least some Wilheit families who are recorded by that name. A Hans Wilheit and his wife Ursula had two sons baptized, Marcellus and Johann Andreas on 15 July 1640 and 30 November 1641 in Schwaigern, their godfathers were Paulus Lederer and Marcel Huebner. This Paulus Lederer and his wife Margaretha had two sons, Paul and Mattheus. Paulus was the servant of his Highness the Excellency of Trautmannsdorff (Ihrer Hochherrschaft Exell. von Trautmannsdorff Diener allhier). We of course know that the Lederer family also came to Germanna. Susanna Barbara, the sister of Johann Paulus Lederer who emigrated to Germanna married a Mattheus Lederer on 20 Jan 1727/28 in Schwaigern, who might be related to the above Lederers. Johannes Christian Wilheit, born 1 July 1714 in Schwaigern married Walburga Weber, whose parents were Susanna Klaar and Philipp Joseph Weber. Susanna was the sister of Hans Michael Clore whose daughter Margaret was married to Johann Paulus Lederer, born 17 Jan 1708/09 in Schwaigern. Are we mixed up yet? Tobias Wilheit was born 15 Jul 1708 in Schwaigern, was the brother of Johannes Christian Wilheit. We don't know yet if the maiden name of Catherine, Tobias' wife was indeed Walke / Walk. So far we have not yet found a Martin Walk who had a sister named Catherine. His daughter Catherine married Johann Peter Frey in 1756 in Friedberg, and we have her memoirs, where she said: "I was born of Lutheran parents on 27 August 1739 in Culpeper County, Virginia, and was baptized there by a Lutheran preacher. My mother passed out of time during my 6th year. After my father married, he moved to North Carolina during my 11th year and [we] lived not far from Abbots Creek. " The Frey's and the Wilheits also have a connection in Pennsylvania: Maria Magdalena Willheit born 17 Sep 1712 in Schwaigern married 15 Apr 1735 at the Holy Trinity Church at Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Martin Frey the son of Tobias Frey and Maria Peter. Maria Magdalena was daughter of Johann Friederich Willheit born 8 Jan 1686/87 Schwaigern and Wilhelmina Lucretia Hafner born 27 Nov 1683. Pastor Stoever who later came to Germanna married on 1 April 1735 Martin Frey and Maria Magdalena Willheut in Codorus, PA. It is entirely possible that Tobias went to Pennsylvania to pick his wife, since we can't find a "suitable" Catherine in Virginia, maybe visiting his Willheut relatives? Elke Hall -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cary Anderson Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 5:56 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANNA] Wilheit in Schwaigern I am wondering about the record of Johann Christian Wilheit's baptism in Schwaigern that Al Welch photographed on the Germanna Tour 2009. I have tried to see if I could make out the spelling, but it seems to be a too grainy to be certain. It does seem to me that it is Wilheit. However, I would like Al's opinion on this. The spelling in Schwaigern has always been reported as Willert and is reported that way on the settler's list. I am not a Wilheit descendent; however, have interest in this family as Tobias Wilheit interacted with my Martin Walck. Al if you see this, I hope you can inform us. Cary Anderson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Elke I copied this for my records too. Barbara Rector Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elke Hall" <elkehall@cox.net> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wilheit in Schwaigern >I looked through the Schwaigern film a few years ago and there are at least > some Wilheit families who are recorded by that name. A Hans Wilheit and > his > wife Ursula had two sons baptized, Marcellus and Johann Andreas on 15 July > 1640 and 30 November 1641 in Schwaigern, their godfathers were Paulus > Lederer and Marcel Huebner. This Paulus Lederer and his wife Margaretha > had > two sons, Paul and Mattheus. Paulus was the servant of his Highness the > Excellency of Trautmannsdorff (Ihrer Hochherrschaft Exell. von > Trautmannsdorff Diener allhier). We of course know that the Lederer family > also came to Germanna. Susanna Barbara, the sister of Johann Paulus > Lederer > who emigrated to Germanna married a Mattheus Lederer on 20 Jan 1727/28 in > Schwaigern, who might be related to the above Lederers. > Johannes Christian Wilheit, born 1 July 1714 in Schwaigern married > Walburga > Weber, whose parents were Susanna Klaar and Philipp Joseph Weber. Susanna > was the sister of Hans Michael Clore whose daughter Margaret was married > to > Johann Paulus Lederer, born 17 Jan 1708/09 in Schwaigern. > > Are we mixed up yet? > > Tobias Wilheit was born 15 Jul 1708 in Schwaigern, was the brother of > Johannes Christian Wilheit. We don't know yet if the maiden name of > Catherine, Tobias' wife was indeed Walke / Walk. So far we have not yet > found a Martin Walk who had a sister named Catherine. His daughter > Catherine > married Johann Peter Frey in 1756 in Friedberg, and we have her memoirs, > where she said: "I was born of Lutheran parents on 27 August 1739 in > Culpeper County, Virginia, and was baptized there by a Lutheran preacher. > My mother passed out of time during my 6th year. After my father married, > he moved to North Carolina during my 11th year and [we] lived not far from > Abbots Creek. " > > The Frey's and the Wilheits also have a connection in Pennsylvania: > Maria Magdalena Willheit born 17 Sep 1712 in Schwaigern married 15 Apr > 1735 > at the Holy Trinity Church at Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Martin Frey the son > of Tobias Frey and Maria Peter. Maria Magdalena was daughter of Johann > Friederich Willheit born 8 Jan 1686/87 Schwaigern and Wilhelmina Lucretia > Hafner born 27 Nov 1683. > > Pastor Stoever who later came to Germanna married on 1 April 1735 Martin > Frey and Maria Magdalena Willheut in Codorus, PA. It is entirely possible > that Tobias went to Pennsylvania to pick his wife, since we can't find a > "suitable" Catherine in Virginia, maybe visiting his Willheut relatives? > > > Elke Hall > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cary Anderson > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 5:56 PM > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GERMANNA] Wilheit in Schwaigern > > I am wondering about the record of Johann Christian Wilheit's baptism in > Schwaigern that Al Welch photographed on the Germanna Tour 2009. > > I have tried to see if I could make out the spelling, but it seems to be a > too grainy to be certain. It does seem to me that it is Wilheit. > However, > I would like Al's opinion on this. The spelling in Schwaigern has always > been reported as Willert and is reported that way on the settler's list. > I > am not a Wilheit descendent; however, have interest in this family as > Tobias > Wilheit interacted with my Martin Walck. > > Al if you see this, I hope you can inform us. > > Cary Anderson > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

AMEN TOO THAT.

According to some friends of ours from Germany, you won't find anything to Nassau-Siegen. It is now Siegen. They say to pronounce it as See-gn.(kind of gutteral if college diction serves me right, which it often doesn't.) ----- Original Message ----- From: Hdanw@aol.com To: "GERMANNA COLONIES-L" <GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 1:26:44 PM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago Subject: [GERMANNA] Another Possible Resouce for German Genealogy Although the best sources, I believe, for Germanna Colonies research are the publications of the Germanna Memorial Foundation, the writings of B. C. Holtzclaw [many of which are now online at sites like HeritageQuest], and the exchange of information on this website, I am going to suggest another resource: It is the Immigrant Genealogical Society in Burbank, CA. Try this website for some of their resources. I don't see anything which springs out for Nassau-Siegen, but with so many boundary changes, who knows? _http://www.immigrantgensoc.org/searches/search_index.html_ (http://www.immigrantgensoc.org/searches/search_index.html) It is highly unlikely this organization can help me with my latecomer Wilhelm L. Braun (d. ca 1926) who reported in one census he came from Baden. When and where is a mystery, but he came to join other Germans in San Antonio, TX. (My genealogy is full of common surnames!) This society told me LONG AGO that I had to know the parish from which my ancestor came!!! Fat chance!!! As for Braun's wife's genealogy, I was fortunate enough to find and obtain copies of an *Old War* pension claim for her father, who was divorced from their mother during the Civil War. His widow, second wife, had to produce all kinds of documents in order to file--and receive--a pension after her husband was killed by the Brooklyn [long way from Texas] police. As some genealogist experts say, Hope your ancestor got into trouble. There are bound to be records then!!! E.W.Wallace **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message