Marilyn, Sometimes, you just have to do the way it makes sense to you. I suppose you haven't seen Picklebuehler found down in the Rowan/Forsyth Counties area of North Carolina. Just a bit of what happens after 20 years of trying to decide the first name of one of my ancestors. It appeared there were two daughters named Mary. Finally, I found records that were clearly Macy. There was another daughter named Mary. Well, I organized all the proofs as I had always done when preparing lineage papers to be submitted to DAR. Approval was given. The certificate came back with the name MARY! Someone reviewing the papers had marked through Macy and substituted Mary. The document I submitted to show that Macy was the name clearly showed a "c" not a "r". My cousin just told me not to worry about it, at least she had her Overton line approved by DAR. Everyone makes goofs. So, what is one to do. Smile and get on with the task at hand. Cary

Would you mind emailing a copy of your information? William Lambert Yeager was my g-g-g grandfather. It is so generous of you to offer to share. Thank you, Patti -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joanne Thorne Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:36 AM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANNA] report 12 09 09 message: Cathi, would love to have any info you have that you are willing to share. Thank you, Joanne Yeager Thorne Let me know if you want a report showing what I have for your line. I'm just doing the first five generations with Nicholas counting as generation one as those generations alone will make a good sized book. Cathi ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.10/1905 - Release Date: 1/20/2009 2:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.10/1905 - Release Date: 1/20/2009 2:34 PM

Michel's second "trip" lasted several years and allowed him to visit and explore several English provinces in America: Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania. You may quote me: Michel discovered the Shenandoah Valley (at least for the Swiss). John errs in referring to Penn's correspondece as one of supposedly "unlikely places": Michel knew and contracted with Penn personally. He also met Gov. Evans in Pennsylvania, Gov. Nicholson in Virginia, [likely] Gov. Spotswood in Virginia, and landgrave Christoph von Graffenried et al. in North Carolina; he is the co-founder of New Berne. An article on Michel is to appear in the Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage, this year, the same journal that dedicated an entire volume to Joshua Kocherthal (October 2008), the pioneer pastor whose book on Carolina directed a wave of Palatines to England exactly 300 years ago. Andreas Mielke on 1/22/09 8:36 AM, john.blankenbaker@comcast.net at john.blankenbaker@comcast.net wrote: > Franz Ludwig Michel Travels to America > > Michel left a report on his first trip which has been > translated and printed in The Virginia Magazine of > History and Biography. The report is rather long but > starts in Vol. XXIV, No.1, (January 1916). It is a > very interesting story. > > His much longer second trip is not so well reported. > One must gather what is known from several sources. > He did leave a map of the Shenandoah Valley which > he drew about 1706 or 1707. The original of this is > in the Public Record Office. There are some other > documents there that pertain to his explorations. > Other bits of information are to be found in some > unlikely places such as the correspondence of > William Penn. > > Michel did think he had found silver mines in the > Valley. This was the event which led to the First > Germanna Colony. Germanna history fails to recognize > the importance of Michel to the existence of the > Germanna Colonies. Had there been no Michel, there > would have been no First or Second Germanna > Colony. > > -- > John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Germanna records may be different, but the DAR requires you to use the spelling exactly as on a record. This requires you to use all the spellings. It also encourages you to look at more records than just the way you think it should be spelled. Anita Schmidt ----- Original Message ----- From: <gneolog@aol.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 4:57 AM Subject: [GERMANNA] Thomas family file > Has anyone compiled a file with all the information on the lines of > Johannes Thomas and Anna Maria Blankenbaker? To be consistent -- how is > Anna Maria's last name being entered into family files -- > Blankenbaker/Blankenbuhler/Blankenbecker or what. Also to be consistent -- > this is what I am using for the place of birth for this > family --Neuenberg, Kraichtal, Baden-Wutttemberg, Germany- Is this correct > and what is everyone else using? My own line is pretty well under > control -- Johannes to Michael to Abraham -- but can't say the same for > the rest of the lines. Do need to go back though and make sure that it > looks good for posterity before sending a Gedcom. Good morning all. It is > going to be a beautiful day here in Mississippi. Marilyn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I do not believe there is any connection between John Lederer and the Lederer/Leathers of the Germanna Colonies. John john.blankenbaker@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Johnson" <voodoo@wdemail.com> To: "germanna colonies" <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:42:19 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] John Lederer early traveler Suzanne, you have my full attention! Being Lederer/Leathers descendant, who is this John and what is his connection to our Germanna associated Lederer? ~don

Marilyn, You ask a couple of questions for which there are no good answers. Anna Maria ??? Probably it was Blanckenbuehler on her baptismal record. Who is going to look for that name? Not many. If you choose one of American spellings, I would pick Blankenbaker which is the most common variant in America. As to where she was born, we can all agree on Neuenbürg or Neuenbuerg. At the time it was in the lands of the Archbishop of Speyer. Later it became Baden. Today it is in Baden-Wurttemberg (note the spelling). It is a difficult question to answer. Probably some standards need to be set. John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net

This being a Genealogy site. If you haven't read this multi-part article on the NARA website, do yourself a favor and do so! "First in the Path of the Firemen" The Fate of the 1890 Population Census, Part 1 By Kellee Blake http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/1996/spring/1890-census-1.html ~don

Thanks John! (At that date, he certainly had an anglicized proper name!) ~don -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john.blankenbaker@comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:46 PM To: germanna colonies Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] John Lederer early traveler I do not believe there is any connection between John Lederer and the Lederer/Leathers of the Germanna Colonies. John john.blankenbaker@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Johnson" <voodoo@wdemail.com> To: "germanna colonies" <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:42:19 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] John Lederer early traveler Suzanne, you have my full attention! Being Lederer/Leathers descendant, who is this John and what is his connection to our Germanna associated Lederer? ~don <snip>

Suzanne, you have my full attention! Being Lederer/Leathers descendant, who is this John and what is his connection to our Germanna associated Lederer? ~don -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Suzanne Matson Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:14 PM To: Germanna Colonies Subject: [GERMANNA] John Lederer early traveler John Lederer, a German physician, undertook three trips through Virginia and North Carolina 1669-1670.  His third trip, in particular, might be of interest to Germanna historians.  It began at the falls of the Rappahannock and proceeded west to the Shenandoah Valley.  It is said that he saw the Appalachians, but from reading his description of the trip I did not get the impression that he actually traveled to the Appalachians.  John Lederer undertook these trips with the permission of Sir William Berkeley, then Governor of Virginia. He wrote his journal in Latin and it was translated into English by Sir William Talbot of Maryland.  Arrangements were made for its publication in 1672 in London.  Did those who traveled in the area in later years read or hear about his travels?  Suzanne Collins Matson

Two thumbs up! The newer versions of FTM help to clean up our sloppy beginnings. I could not believe how many different ways I had put places in my database. It questions incorrectness and it is easy to go into and change mistakes. I know that isn't the only program that does that. We do need to be more aware of how we put things in our database but so many novices like me didn't have a clue what we were doing and now are spending many hours correcting these mistakes. Thanks for letting us know how it affects computerland and other databases. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "George W. Durman" <GermannaResearch@comcast.net> To: "Germanna Colonies" <Germanna_Colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 4:41:59 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [GERMANNA] GEDCOMS-What You Need To Do Ever since I posted that I would accept GEDCOMs (.GED files), I have been inundated with files, the senders asking that their family trees be added to the Germanna Families database at Rootsweb. I have a problem! It is extremely difficult to add other researchers' databases to our main Germanna database if those who send such .GED files haven't made sure that their databases adhere to normal standards for database construction. What I mean is, if you send me a GEDCOM and it is full of errors as far as construction is concerned, it takes me hours, even days, to correct it so that I can add it to the main database. Examples: 1) You enter "places" as: Podunk, VA Podunk, Virginia Podunk, Whatever County, VA Podunk, Whatever County, Virginia Podunk, Whatever Co., VA Podunk, Whatever Co., Virginia 2) You don't enter surnames in your databases in capital letters. It makes it a lot easier to concentrate on surnames if you put them in your database in ALL CAPS. 3) You enter dates such as 3/4/1890. How in the #*^*(* are we to know if that means 03 Apr 1890, or 04 Mar 1890? You are free to use whatever date convention you wish, whether its Day/Month/Year, or Month/Day/Year, just don't use NUMBERS!!!!! The American standard has been to use Month/ Day/Year, while, at the same time, most genealogy researchers (and everyone else in the world) use the Day/Month/Year. Whatever convention you use, don't use a number for the Month!!!!! Dang it, how hard is it to type in 11 Dec 1876, or Dec 11 1876, instead of 11-12-1876, or 12-11-1876? Give us a break! Etc., etc., ad infinitum. Can you see that you must adopt a standard format for entering places and dates in you databases? I really don't care what format you use, but you must use the same format throughout your database!!!!! Let's get it together and use a standardized format for place names! Look at your database. How many different forms of the same place name do you have there? Is there any reason that you can't use ONE standard format for place names? I don't care if you have "just" copied place names from other databases on Ancestry/Rootsweb, when you incorporate them into your database, make adjustments, make corrections, put them right! If you want to enter a person's birth, marriage, or death place as a certain town, look up the county where that town is located and include the COUNTY in the "place", (If you were using a "good" genealogy database program, you would have access to a "Place Finder", which would tell you where any town/city was located. I'm just tired of having to correct place names, where the originators of the databases have used multiple place names, all different (but the same place), and can't seem to use ONE common place name. For Heaven's Sake, why can't you decide one on ONE common place name? Yes, attention to detail is very desirable when entering data into your computer database program. If you're serious in this genealogical study, why can't you be serious in how you enter data into the database? Continuing to be an "Arschloch", I challenge you to "get it right"! Sarge ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don, Like John Blankenbaker, I don't know of any connection to your Lederers/Leathers.  He is referred to as John in the English translation made by Sir William Talbot and thus is generally indexed as John Lederer in the various archives/libraries in the USA.  I have not seen the original Latin document so do not know how it is titled.  Although I suspect strongly that he was not called "John".  Although he was German, he wrote the document in Latin and it was translated from Latin directly to English.  I don't know if there was a German translation or not.  There are some brief biographies about him on the internet.  The Virginia Historical Society has some documents that relate to him. My reason for mentioning him is to illustrate that there were people traveling in the Germanna area long before the 1714 colonists and Lt. Governor Spotswood ever arrived in the Virginia colony.  The following is the English transation and is available at: http://rla.unc.edu/Archives/accounts/Lederer/LedererText.html Suzanne Collins Matson   ________________________________ From: Don Johnson <voodoo@wdemail.com> To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:56:10 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] John Lederer early traveler Thanks John!  (At that date, he certainly had an anglicized proper name!) ~don

Spell Baden-Wuerttemberg with an "e" if the umlaut "ü" is not used. Elke -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of john.blankenbaker@comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 10:30 AM To: germanna colonies Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Thomas family file Marilyn, You ask a couple of questions for which there are no good answers. Anna Maria ??? Probably it was Blanckenbuehler on her baptismal record. Who is going to look for that name? Not many. If you choose one of American spellings, I would pick Blankenbaker which is the most common variant in America. As to where she was born, we can all agree on Neuenbürg or Neuenbuerg. At the time it was in the lands of the Archbishop of Speyer. Later it became Baden. Today it is in Baden-Wurttemberg (note the spelling). It is a difficult question to answer. Probably some standards need to be set. John.Blankenbaker@comcast.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John Lederer, a German physician, undertook three trips through Virginia and North Carolina 1669-1670.  His third trip, in particular, might be of interest to Germanna historians.  It began at the falls of the Rappahannock and proceeded west to the Shenandoah Valley.  It is said that he saw the Appalachians, but from reading his description of the trip I did not get the impression that he actually traveled to the Appalachians.  John Lederer undertook these trips with the permission of Sir William Berkeley, then Governor of Virginia. He wrote his journal in Latin and it was translated into English by Sir William Talbot of Maryland.  Arrangements were made for its publication in 1672 in London.  Did those who traveled in the area in later years read or hear about his travels?  Suzanne Collins Matson

Has anyone compiled a file with all the information on the lines of Johannes Thomas and Anna Maria Blankenbaker? To be consistent -- how is Anna Maria's last name being entered into family files -- Blankenbaker/Blankenbuhler/Blankenbecker or what. Also to be consistent -- this is what I am using for the place of birth for this family --Neuenberg, Kraichtal, Baden-Wutttemberg, Germany- Is this correct and what is everyone else using?  My own line is pretty well under control -- Johannes to Michael to Abraham -- but can't say the same for the rest of the lines. Do need to go back though and make sure that it looks good for posterity before sending a Gedcom. Good morning all. It is going to be a beautiful day here in Mississippi. Marilyn

Ever since I posted that I would accept GEDCOMs (.GED files), I have been inundated with files, the senders asking that their family trees be added to the Germanna Families database at Rootsweb. I have a problem! It is extremely difficult to add other researchers' databases to our main Germanna database if those who send such .GED files haven't made sure that their databases adhere to normal standards for database construction. What I mean is, if you send me a GEDCOM and it is full of errors as far as construction is concerned, it takes me hours, even days, to correct it so that I can add it to the main database. Examples: 1) You enter "places" as: Podunk, VA Podunk, Virginia Podunk, Whatever County, VA Podunk, Whatever County, Virginia Podunk, Whatever Co., VA Podunk, Whatever Co., Virginia 2) You don't enter surnames in your databases in capital letters. It makes it a lot easier to concentrate on surnames if you put them in your database in ALL CAPS. 3) You enter dates such as 3/4/1890. How in the #*^*(* are we to know if that means 03 Apr 1890, or 04 Mar 1890? You are free to use whatever date convention you wish, whether its Day/Month/Year, or Month/Day/Year, just don't use NUMBERS!!!!! The American standard has been to use Month/ Day/Year, while, at the same time, most genealogy researchers (and everyone else in the world) use the Day/Month/Year. Whatever convention you use, don't use a number for the Month!!!!! Dang it, how hard is it to type in 11 Dec 1876, or Dec 11 1876, instead of 11-12-1876, or 12-11-1876? Give us a break! Etc., etc., ad infinitum. Can you see that you must adopt a standard format for entering places and dates in you databases? I really don't care what format you use, but you must use the same format throughout your database!!!!! Let's get it together and use a standardized format for place names! Look at your database. How many different forms of the same place name do you have there? Is there any reason that you can't use ONE standard format for place names? I don't care if you have "just" copied place names from other databases on Ancestry/Rootsweb, when you incorporate them into your database, make adjustments, make corrections, put them right! If you want to enter a person's birth, marriage, or death place as a certain town, look up the county where that town is located and include the COUNTY in the "place", (If you were using a "good" genealogy database program, you would have access to a "Place Finder", which would tell you where any town/city was located. I'm just tired of having to correct place names, where the originators of the databases have used multiple place names, all different (but the same place), and can't seem to use ONE common place name. For Heaven's Sake, why can't you decide one on ONE common place name? Yes, attention to detail is very desirable when entering data into your computer database program. If you're serious in this genealogical study, why can't you be serious in how you enter data into the database? Continuing to be an "Arschloch", I challenge you to "get it right"! Sarge

Just curious is any other of the Germanna families are E haplogroup. Very few Thomas families are E. Interesting. Take care. Marilyn

Hi Frances, You can certainly access the Settler's List on the Germanna Foundation's web site at: _www.germanna.org_ (http://www.germanna.org) . You can also look at BC Holtzclaw's book, Ancestry and Descendants of the Nassau-Siegen Immigrants to Virginia 1714-1750. He does list the First Colonists and goes through each family individually. He also does discuss his reasons for including them, some of which are corrections to his earlier publications. I think that John Blankenbaker also has a list of the settler's in his works at: _http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/johnsgermnotes/germhist.html_ (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/johnsgermnotes/germhist.html) His notes are searchable, which is great!! And, of course, we all realize that genealogy is a work in progress and never ends! Barb Price In a message dated 1/22/2009 13:37:24 Pacific Standard Time, KiwisKeeper@aol.com writes: Does anyone have a list of those people? Frances In a message dated 1/22/2009 12:14:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com writes: Hi Cathi, Your source agrees with the information published in the Executive Journals of the Council of Colonial Virginia, vol. III (May 1, 1705-October 23, 1721) H. R. McIlwaine, editor, publ 1928, reprinted 1976, p. 371. On April 28, 1714, Lt. Governor Alexander Spotswood reported to the Council that forty-t wo men women and children who were invited hither by the Baron de Graffenried are now arrived,.... (italics are mine) Lt.. Governor Spotswood was quite precise in stating the number. Since he had paid for approximately one-half their passage, I think he knew exactly how many people arrived. I wonder if he had to pay the passage of those who may have died at sea. Perhaps someone on the list who knows something about the shipping business of that time could help out. Suzanne ________________________________ From: Cathi Clore Frost <cathiclorefrost@comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:52:53 PM Hi Suzanne, I was just reading the Kemper Family genealogy by Willis Kemper. I realize that this account of the Germanna Colonies contains errors however, Kemper states that the 1714 Colony had 42 members and cites an Act of November 1714 exempting the Germans from parish levies (Acts of Assembly passed in the colony of Virginia from 1662 to 1715. London 1727: page 379). (Kemper Family, 20-22) Cathi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Matson" <holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com> I noticed recently that the official history of the Germanna Foundation states there were 47 people in the 1714 Colony. The list of Germanna Settlers names 44 people(I counted them). Lt. Governor Alexander Spotswood gave the number as 42. Of the three different numbers given, I can only find documentation for the number 42. What sources were used to determine the other two numbers given (44 and 47)? I will point out that I did contribute some of the names on the page of Germanna Settlers--but only the ones on which I had some documentation that they actually arrived in the VA colony. A number of names are listed out of tradition and not as a result of research and documentation. Suzanne Collins Matson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIE S-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital. (http://news.aol.com/main/politics/inauguration?ncid=emlcntusnews00000003) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

I have had YDNA done on my brother and mtDNA on myself. My grandmother on my parental side was German and my grandfather mother was German. We are in the Drake group at FTDNA. I have had lot's of test done on both of us. I don't know if this would be of any help or not.Frances In a message dated 1/22/2009 1:32:28 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, oddlaw@pacbell.net writes: The Germanna Project at FTDNA was set up for the Germanna Foundation. If anyone is interested in serving as the Group Administrator, please contact me. Michael Corlee Morris wrote: > Fellow Germanna Descendants, > > It appears that there is already a Germanna Project at FTDNA. Currently there is no Group Administrator listed or information on the Project. Does anyone know who started this Project? > > I know that many Germanna Descendants have already joined Surname Projects at FTDNA. I myself have had two Germanna Descendents tested. FTDNA currently allows its members to join more than one Project, so we could gather all of the previouily tested Germanna Descendants together. > > If you have had your DNA tested through another lab, you can ask to have your results included in another database. In fact you should have your results added to as many databases as possible. > > FTDNA also allows its members to submit their results to The Genographic Project. People that join The Genographic Project can also have their results submitted to FTDNA Projects. I like the thought of supporting The Genographic Project. And since the cost is only slightly more I plan to have all of my future DNA Tests go through the Genographic Project as long as it is testing. Of course it is only a five year program. > > > Sincerely yours, > > Corlee Ann Morris > Germanna Descendant > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital. (http://news.aol.com/main/politics/inauguration?ncid=emlcntusnews00000003)

Does anyone have a list of those people? Frances In a message dated 1/22/2009 12:14:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com writes: Hi Cathi, Your source agrees with the information published in the Executive Journals of the Council of Colonial Virginia, vol. III (May 1, 1705-October 23, 1721) H. R. McIlwaine, editor, publ 1928, reprinted 1976, p. 371. On April 28, 1714, Lt. Governor Alexander Spotswood reported to the Council that forty-two men women and children who were invited hither by the Baron de Graffenried are now arrived,.... (italics are mine) Lt.. Governor Spotswood was quite precise in stating the number. Since he had paid for approximately one-half their passage, I think he knew exactly how many people arrived. I wonder if he had to pay the passage of those who may have died at sea. Perhaps someone on the list who knows something about the shipping business of that time could help out. Suzanne ________________________________ From: Cathi Clore Frost <cathiclorefrost@comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:52:53 PM Hi Suzanne, I was just reading the Kemper Family genealogy by Willis Kemper. I realize that this account of the Germanna Colonies contains errors however, Kemper states that the 1714 Colony had 42 members and cites an Act of November 1714 exempting the Germans from parish levies (Acts of Assembly passed in the colony of Virginia from 1662 to 1715. London 1727: page 379). (Kemper Family, 20-22) Cathi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Matson" <holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com> I noticed recently that the official history of the Germanna Foundation states there were 47 people in the 1714 Colony. The list of Germanna Settlers names 44 people(I counted them). Lt. Governor Alexander Spotswood gave the number as 42. Of the three different numbers given, I can only find documentation for the number 42. What sources were used to determine the other two numbers given (44 and 47)? I will point out that I did contribute some of the names on the page of Germanna Settlers--but only the ones on which I had some documentation that they actually arrived in the VA colony. A number of names are listed out of tradition and not as a result of research and documentation. Suzanne Collins Matson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIE S-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital. (http://news.aol.com/main/politics/inauguration?ncid=emlcntusnews00000003)

Thank you for pointing that out, Suzanne, that will be immediately corrected as this is a typo. Barb Price In a message dated 1/22/2009 12:15:51 Pacific Standard Time, holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com writes: On the Germanna Foundation website on the "History of Germanna" page, second paragraph, it states 47 people were members of the 1714 Colony. I was asking for the source of that information. I have no information that would indicate 47 people and was wondering where that came from. I don't particularly have a problem with Albrecht being listed as long as his role is made clear. While present at Germanna for a period of time, he was not a member of the Germanna group, IMHO. I haven't yet found a source that indicates whether any of Albrecht's passage was paid for by Lt. Gov. Spotswood. Suzanne ________________________________ From: "RockCatt@aol.com" <RockCatt@aol.com> To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com; GERMANNA_COLONIES@rootsweb.com Cc: Klbrown@cfw.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:53:31 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] The number of people in the 1714 Colony I am curious as to the sources that state that there were 47 members of the First Colony, what is that, Suzanne? Barb Price ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)