Taken from book entitled "Biographical and Genealogical History of Cass, Miami, Howard and Tipton Counties, Indiana" . Compiled by Indiana University Libraries, pub Chicago; 1898, Lewis Publishing Company. Two Volumes. Loaning library : Indiana Unisersity Librarires DDS, 1320 E. 10th #E065 , Bloomington, Indiana 47405 USA. taken from Volume 2 ; pages 1008-1010 includes photo of Ebal and Hannah (Baldwin) Teter. EBAL TETER - If one desires to gain a vivid realization of the rapid advance in the civilization which the last few decades have brought about, he can listen to the stories that men who are still living among us, and by no means overburdened with years, can tell of their early life. The subject of this sketch is a venerable and highly respected citizen, now living retired in Goldsmith, Tipton, Indiana, has many interesting reminiscences of pioneer days in this locality. Mr Teter was born in Pendelton county, West Virginia, April 23, 1823, and is a son of George Teter, also a native of that state. The paternal grandfather, George Teter, Sr. came from Germany with two brothers and first located in North Carolina, but later removed to West Virginia, spending his last days on a farm in Pendelton County. He died at the age of sixty-nine years. In his native state, George Teter, Jr. married Sarah Harper, also a native of Pendelton county, and a daughter of Jacob Harper, who was also one of three brothers to emigrate from Germany to America, one settling in Pennsylvania, and another in North Carolina, while he took up his residence in West Virginia. He was a farmer by occupation, and died about the age of eighty years. In this family were twin daughters, Sarah, the mother of our subject, and Mary, who lived to the extreme old age of of one hundred years. In 1840 the parents of our subject removed to Hamilton county, Indiana, but the following year came to Tipton county, where the father took up land from the government as soon as it came into market, making his home thereon until called to his final rest, at the age of seventy-one years. His wife died at the age of sixty-nine. Ebal Teter is the eighth in order of birth in their family of ten children, and was seventeen years old when the family removed from his native county to Hamilton county, Indiana, coming to what is now Tipton county a year later, it being then called the Miami Reserve. On section 12 of Jefferson township, he secured a claim of one hundred and sixty acres. On the 18th of December, 1843, he married Miss Hannah Baldwin, who was born in Guilford County, North Carolina, July 13, 1824. Her parents, Josiah and Lydia (White) Baldwin, were likewise natives of that state, and there the mother died when Mrs Teter was only five years old. With her father she came to Wayne County, Indiana, in 1830, and six years later they removed to Hamilton County, where she was principally reared. She is the sixth child and second daughter in a family of eight children. Mr and Mrs Teter began their domestic life in a little log cabin, ten by twelve feet, erected in the midst of the woods, and their furniture consisted of one homemade bedstead, two old chairs, a table and two cupboards put upon pins driven into the wall. Light was admitted through one greased-paper window, and the door was of clapboards with the latch-string always hanging out. Mrs Teter made all the clothes for her family, spinning and weaving the cloth and also her table linen and bed-clothes. Five dollarswould have purchased all the dishes, cooking utensils and other things which they bought for their little house, and one dollar a year was not expended on clothes outside of what Mrs Teter manufactured. The first butter-paddle she owned she had constructed herself out of a large poplar chip, this being over half a century ago. Wild game of all kinds, including deer, furnished the household with meat, and one night in his own dooryard Mr Teter killed two immense turkeys, on e weighing twenty-three punds and the other twenty-two, after they were dressed. He was one of the best shots in the county and could hit a turkey in the eye at almost any distance ! In those early days their nearest market of any importance was LaFayette, forty-five miles away, and they experienced all the hardships and privations of pioneer life but as time advanced the comforts of civilization were added to their home, and they became quite prosperous, owing to their industry, perseverance, good management and economy. For forty-five years they lived on the one farm, in the meantime converting the wild tract into one of the most desirable places of the locality. Mr Teter still owns the place having added to the original quarter-section eighty acres on the east and twenty on the west, and the little home long since gave place to a more commodious and modern residence. The family have left the farm however, and now live in Goldsmith. To Mr and Mrs Teter were born nine children, as follows : Mahlon L., Josiah A., Melvina J., Enos H., who died at the age of thirteen months, Elizabeth A., Asa E., Eber W., and Ebal H., twins, and Abraham A. In 1864 Mr Teter enlisted in Company F, Eleventh Indiana Volunteer Infantry, and served until the close of the war. His son, Mahlon S., was in the same struggle, serving for two years in Company A, One Hundred and Thirtieth, Indiana Volunteer Infantry, and participating in many hard-fought battles, but fortunately, he escaped uninjured. Mr and Mrs Teter are both earnest and consistent members of the New-Light Christian Church, with which they have been connected for half a century, and in which he has served as elder and trustee for many years. In Politics Mr Teter is now a Republican. He would have voted for James K Polk had he been able to go to the polls. That president signed the deed to his farm, but it was not recorded until November 30, 1897 ! Mr Teter was a member of the first jury ever called in the county, court being held in the old court-house located on the site where the new one now stands. We thus see that he has been prominently identified with the interests of the county, from the very beginning, and he stands today one of its most honored and highly esteemed pioneers. COMPILER's NOTE : I am interested in this family, as two sons of Ebal and Hannah (Baldwin) Teter, namely Ebal H and Eber W, married into my mother's maternal ancestry lines, of Smith and Foster. Ebal H married Mary W Smith, dtr of Squire Smith and Sarah Ann Cracraft, and Eber W married Flora D Foster, dtr of Richard Harrison and Sarah (Barr) Foster. Richard Harrison Foster relates back to the Coons family of Culpeper, Virginia. Anyone that has connections to these families, please contact me. Tonnie Cates

I saw an Ortssippenbuch for Neuenberg [sp?[ which had the Thoma family. The person who had acquired it was surprised at records of the Thoma and Blankenbakers being in a Catholic Church book. Some of the Thoma families apparently were Catholics. I seem to recall that included some who came to Germane, but as I am not of that family, I took no notes. If I were a member of that family, I would take a look at the microfilm records myself of the Neuenberg Catholic Church to see just what is there. Once one has dates of births and marriages, it is easy to figure out the details from the microfilm records. It is a great feeling to actual see and hold the church books that have family records. Touching a communion cup that my ancestor had taken communion in the early 1700s was one of the great experiences of my genealogical life. ----- Original Message ----- From: <gneolog@aol.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:35 AM Subject: [GERMANNA] Source for early Thoma > Just checking to see if I have this source right since I did not find this info myself. I know that Cary does FHL microfilms but also think that the actual church book has been read - not sure about this. For the second marriage of Albrecht Thoma/(s), his death, the marriage of his son Johannes and the birth of Johannes 3 children, I have this for source info -- just don't know if they are one and the same. Same info for Schön and Blanckenbühler family. I have the info that Albrecht had two other sons in addition to Johannes with their exact dates and the marriage of one but no notation where this info came from -- ? same source. > > > > So this is what I have listed as my source info for these early records -- right? wrong? too much info? All help appreciated. Take care. Marilyn > > > > > Evangelical Church Records, Oberoewisheim, Germany, FHL INTL Film # 1,192 078 Neuenbürg. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Wetaunah -- Hey, please contact me directly if you are a Laban Yager descendant, because I am searching for these cousins. Franklin W. Yager, the subject of the biography you posted, is my 2nd great-grandfather. I am descended from his daughter "Jane," who was actually "Joan" or "Joanna" depending on the mood of the writer, and her husband Alfred J. Rhodes. This is a messed-up biography in the sense that there was not a true understanding of Franklin's ancestors. That is because, I believe, Franklin's wife Harriett, who was a family-proud type of person, gave this information to the biographer. There are suggestions that perhaps Franklin was ill or incompetent by 1898. Franklin died in 1904. Franklin's father was Laban Yager and his mother Sarah Carpenter. Sarah was the first of Laban's 3 wives; she died in 1826 in VA. Franklin was born in either Culpeper or Madison County, Virginia. (I tend to believe it was actually Madison County because his father, Laban, farmed land next to the homestead of Laban's grandfather "Blind" John Yager.) In 1836, the family migrated to Jefferson County, Kentucky. There they joined Laban's father, John W. Yager, who had migrated from Madison County, Virginia to Kentucky earlier, in 1822. Laban's father, John W. Yager was born 12 Nov. 1773; he married Margaret Wilhite or Wilhoit on Nov. 3, 1791 in what that year was Culpeper County and which shortly would be Madison County, they migrated to Boone County, KY, in 1822, and between 1830 and 1840 they migrated to Jefferson County, KY. He died 18 Apr 1851 and is buried in Hobb's Cemetery, outside Louisville, Jefferson Co., KY. Margaret had predeceased him on 25 Jan 1849; it is said she also is buried in Hobb's Cemetery. Margaret was the daughter of George Wilhoit and Elizabeth Utz. I tend to use the spelling "Wilhoit" for ease but it is not necessarily how they spelled the name. Margaret's husband, John W. Yager, unlike what this biography states, was most certainly NOT the immigrant from Germany. That honor is reserved for John W's grandfather Adam Yager and his great-grandather Nicholas Yager, who is listed as one of the original Germanna settlers and who is the progenitor of the family for whom Yager Mountain, in Madison Co., VA, is named. Harriet missed a couple of generations when she was describing the family for this 1898 biography! John W. Yager's father was "Blind" John Yager and his mother was Mary Margaret Wilhite or Wilhoit. You can see that the two generations would be pretty confusing to anyone. Mary Margaret Wilhoit was a 1st or 2nd cousin once removed from Margarent Wilhoit, her daughter-in-law. "Blind" John Yager was born 15 Dec. 1732 in Culpeper Co., VA, he lived to be very old and gradually grew blind, and died in 1826. His wife, Mary Margaret Wilhoit, was the daughter of John Christian Wilhoit and Waldburga Weaver. "Blind" John Yager was the son of Adam Yager and his mother was Susannah unknown. It was thought at one time that she was Susannah Kobler but that is no longer believed to be true. Adam was born in the area of Falkenstein, Pfalz, Germany, in 1708; he died in about 1793. Adam's father was Nicholas Yager, who was born, we believe, in Oberzell, Hesse, Germany. Oberzell is quite near the border of both Bavaria and Thuringia, and today is located in a UNESCO biosphere. Adam's mother was Anna Maria Seiber from Falkenstein, and she and Nicholas were married in 1706 in Marienthal, near Falkenstein, Pfalz, Germany. This may be more than you want to know. While I have a lot of information from John W. to the present on this family, I would say that Betty Johnson is the expert from John W. going back in time, or else Cathi Clore Frost who is NOT a Yager but who is writing a new Germanna Record on the Yagers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wetaunah Cates" <tonniec@windstream.net> To: <GERMANNA_COLONIES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:50 AM Subject: [GERMANNA] John Yager married Margaret Wilhite : Book source found >I tried to post this same message before, it never showed up, so I am >trying again. > Found this information concerning the above YAGER families in a book > entitled " Biographical and Genealogical History of Cass, Miami, Howard > and Franklin Counties, Indiana " compiled by Indiana University, > published Chicago, Lewis Publishing Company , 1898. Two Volumes. > I have these two volumes on inner library loan, and have permission to > copy anything from these books, as the copyright has long been expired, > per the loaning libray at Indiana University Libraries, DDS, 1320 E. 10th > #E065, Bloomington, Indiana 47405. > Taken from Volume I. pages 54-56, Frank W Yager >

I tried to post this same message before, it never showed up, so I am trying again. Found this information concerning the above YAGER families in a book entitled " Biographical and Genealogical History of Cass, Miami, Howard and Franklin Counties, Indiana " compiled by Indiana University, published Chicago, Lewis Publishing Company , 1898. Two Volumes. I have these two volumes on inner library loan, and have permission to copy anything from these books, as the copyright has long been expired, per the loaning libray at Indiana University Libraries, DDS, 1320 E. 10th #E065, Bloomington, Indiana 47405. Taken from Volume I. pages 54-56, Frank W Yager " In the pioneer days of northern Indiana the Yager family became identified with its history, and at an early period of our American history representatives of the name located in the Old Dominion. Industry, energy, honesty, and fildelity, -- these are some of the most marked characteristics of the Yagers, and the elemental strength of character in the subject of this review shows that these qualities are predominant in the nature. His life has been well spent in devotion to all public and private duties, and his history is an open scroll inviting the closet scrutiny. Born in Madison county, Virginia, on the 16th of October, 1822, he is a son of Labern and Sarah (Carpenter) Yager. The paternal grandparents of our subject, Frank W Yager, were John and Margaret (Wilhite) Yager, the former was a native of Germany, whence he sailed for the new world, thinking to better his financial condition in this country, where greater opportunities are offered to ambition than the older countries of Europe. Locating in Virginia, he there followed farming throughout the remainder of his days. He married Margaret, daughter of George Wilhite, also a native of Germany and the only representative of his family to come to America. His two brothers remained in the fatherland and were never married. They died in that country and left considerable wealth. Margaret Wilhite was born in Virginia, and died in Kentucky, whither she removed after her marriage. Labern Yager, father of our subject, ( Frank W Yager ), was three times married, and after his second marriage he removed from Virginia to Kentucky, in 1836, carrying on farming in the latter state. He managed his plantation with the aid of slave labor and was a very prominent and influential citizen of the community. In his church relationship, he was a methodist, and in his political faith was a democrat, but though he took a deep interest in political affairs and was well informed on the issues of the day he never sought or desired office. His death occurred at his Kentucky home in 1871. His first wife, the mother of our subject, died in 1827, in the faith of the Lutheran church, of which she was a member. They were the parents of five children : Jane, wife of J. Avinger ; William H., a resident of Kentucky ; Franklin W. ; John W., also of Kentucky ; and Sarah, wife of J. Sayers, of Illinois. After the death of his first wife, Mr Yager married Malinda Johnson, and they had four children, as follows : James M., Deceased ; Elizabeth, wife of R. Davis ; Champ C., of Kansas ; and Joseph, of Indiana. The mother of this family died in 1838, and for his third wife Mr Yager chose Frances Price, a widow, who died in 1895. Their children are: Frances, deceased ; and Elijah ; and Eli and Thomas, all of whom reside in Kentucky. To the schools conducted on the old subscriprion plan Frank W Yager is indebted for the educational privileges which he received. He grew to manhood in Kentucky, being reared upon his father's farm, where he early became familiar with all the duties that fall to the lot of the agriculturist. In 1850 he removed from Kentucky to Johnson county, Indiana where he operated rented land for seven years, when, in 1860 he came to Howard county and purchased a tract of farming land, also fifteen town lots in the village of Fairlfield. There he erected substantail residences, one of which is still his home, and for seven years he conducted a hotel in connection with the management of his farming interests. Since that time he has devoted his energies entirely to the farm, and excellent success has crowned his labors. His land is under a high state of cultivation and is improved with substantial and commodious buildings which stand as monuments to his thrift and enterprise. In 1846, while residing in Kentucky, Mr Yager married Miss Harriet Kelley, who belonged to an honored and influential family of that state, her father being, Captain Samuel Kelley. Five children were born of this union : Jane, wife of A. Rhodes ; Daily S., a farmer of Howard county, Indiana ; Albert F., also an agriculturist ; Billa B., deceased ; and Jessie H., who died at the age of fourteen years. Mrs Yager is a member of the Baptist church and has been to her husband an able companion and helpmeet on the journey of life. In politics he is a Democrat but has never been an aspirant for office. His business interests have always claimed his time and attention, and through his careful management, sound judgment and unflagging industry he has overcome many obstacles and steadily worked his way upward until prosperity has crowned his labors with a fitting reward. " I am wondering, where it states, Margaret ( Wilhite, dtr of George), born in VA, died in Kentucky, whither she removed after her marriage, in the same paragraph, it stated John Yager, her husband located in Virginia, and there followed farming the remainder of his days ? Conflicting information ? Can anyone clarify this for me? Who were John Yager's parents, and what are his dates/places of Birth, Death? I would like the same information for George Wilhite, and if known, his wife's name. Hope this can help someone. Tonnie

If any of you doing Thomas happen to notice an Aquilla Thomas in 18th early 19th century Virginia, please let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: <gneolog@aol.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:35 AM Subject: [GERMANNA] Source for early Thoma > Just checking to see if I have this source right since I did not find this > info myself. I know that Cary does FHL microfilms but also think that the > actual church book has been read - not sure about this. For the second > marriage of Albrecht Thoma/(s), his death, the marriage of his son > Johannes and the birth of Johannes 3 children, I have this for source > info -- just don't know if they are one and the same. Same info for Schön > and Blanckenbühler family. I have the info that Albrecht had two other > sons in addition to Johannes with their exact dates and the marriage of > one but no notation where this info came from -- ? same source. > > > > So this is what I have listed as my source info for these early records -- > right? wrong? too much info? All help appreciated. Take care. Marilyn > > > > > Evangelical Church Records, Oberoewisheim, Germany, FHL INTL Film # 1,192 > 078 Neuenbürg. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just checking to see if I have this source right since I did not find this info myself. I know that Cary does FHL microfilms but also think that the actual church book has been read - not sure about this. For the second marriage of Albrecht Thoma/(s), his death, the marriage of his son Johannes and the birth of Johannes 3 children, I have this for source info -- just don't know if they are one and the same. Same info for Schön and Blanckenbühler family. I have the info that Albrecht had two other sons in addition to Johannes with their exact dates and the marriage of one but no notation where this info came from -- ? same source. So this is what I have listed as my source info for these early records -- right? wrong? too much info? All help appreciated. Take care. Marilyn Evangelical Church Records, Oberoewisheim, Germany, FHL INTL Film # 1,192 078 Neuenbürg.

I would appreciate if members could be notified when their membership is about to expire. Other organizations that I belong to do this to ensure continuity. Thanks, ~Rock~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael L. Oddenino" <oddlaw@pacbell.net> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] fees for the special site > While there was regrettably some confusion arising from the letter, the > new record keeping system will insure that memberships in Germanna will > be for a one year period from when dues are paid. Previously, dues did > run from July to June because it was too difficult to keep track of > "rolling memberships." Germanna's new computer program allows the easy > handling of memberships regardless of when different people join. So, > rest assured that membership dues will cover a one year period! > > Winnie Miller wrote: >> >From my recent letter I understood I have to pay dues for 08 until June >> >when the new fees begin. That would be $60 if I am reading the letter >> >correctly. >> Makes better sense if I just wait for June. >> Am I mistaken? >> Searching Wilhite, Stapp, Towles, Lancaster, Ellis, Slaughter, old Simon >> Miller etc. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Winnie, I will send an email to you from the Germanna Foundation email and answer your questions as the Germanna Colonies List doesn't have anything to do with the Germanna Foundation, we're two separate entities. Here's my Foundation email address, too, for you: _bprice@germanna.org_ (mailto:bprice@germanna.org) Thanks and I'll talk to you soon! Barb Price In a message dated 1/27/2009 08:32:20 Pacific Standard Time, winnie-miller@att.net writes: >From my recent letter I understood I have to pay dues for 08 until June when the new fees begin. That would be $60 if I am reading the letter correctly. Makes better sense if I just wait for June. Am I mistaken? Searching Wilhite, Stapp, Towles, Lancaster, Ellis, Slaughter, old Simon Miller etc. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

>From my recent letter I understood I have to pay dues for 08 until June when the new fees begin. That would be $60 if I am reading the letter correctly. Makes better sense if I just wait for June. Am I mistaken? Searching Wilhite, Stapp, Towles, Lancaster, Ellis, Slaughter, old Simon Miller etc.

As soon as the web designers have completed some of the programming that remains to be done, an email will go out to members before their membership expires. There is a tremendous amount of work going into the new Germanna website and once all the programming is complete it will be a very friendly place. Rock Racer wrote: I would appreciate if members could be notified when their membership is about to expire. Other organizations that I belong to do this to ensure continuity. Thanks, ~Rock~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael L. Oddenino" [1]<oddlaw@pacbell.net> To: [2]<germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] fees for the special site While there was regrettably some confusion arising from the letter, the new record keeping system will insure that memberships in Germanna will be for a one year period from when dues are paid. Previously, dues did run from July to June because it was too difficult to keep track of "rolling memberships." Germanna's new computer program allows the easy handling of memberships regardless of when different people join. So, rest assured that membership dues will cover a one year period! Winnie Miller wrote: >From my recent letter I understood I have to pay dues for 08 until June when the new fees begin. That would be $60 if I am reading the letter correctly. Makes better sense if I just wait for June. Am I mistaken? Searching Wilhite, Stapp, Towles, Lancaster, Ellis, Slaughter, old Simon Miller etc. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [3]GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [4]GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5]GERMANNA_COLONIES-requ est@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:oddlaw@pacbell.net 2. mailto:germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 5. mailto:GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com

While there was regrettably some confusion arising from the letter, the new record keeping system will insure that memberships in Germanna will be for a one year period from when dues are paid. Previously, dues did run from July to June because it was too difficult to keep track of "rolling memberships." Germanna's new computer program allows the easy handling of memberships regardless of when different people join. So, rest assured that membership dues will cover a one year period! Winnie Miller wrote: > >From my recent letter I understood I have to pay dues for 08 until June when the new fees begin. That would be $60 if I am reading the letter correctly. > Makes better sense if I just wait for June. > Am I mistaken? > Searching Wilhite, Stapp, Towles, Lancaster, Ellis, Slaughter, old Simon Miller etc. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Original Message: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: [GERMANNA] What county is my town in Sandy, if you go to www.familysearch.org -- library catalog--place search (succeeding pages) and put the name of your town in the PLACE search and the state in the PART OF search, it will give you a county for your town.. Marilyn <SNIP> Marilyn, You have a very good suggestion for many records, BUT (and don't you hate qualifiers?), we're going to have to be careful that we don't corrupt our own research. So many counties have divided over the years that one farm may have been in more than one county. The land didn't move, but the boundaries sure did. One example of that is Independence, KY. My ancestors lived there in the early 1800's when it was in Campbell County. Later my ancestors still lived on that same farm when it was Kenton County. (Kenton County was formed in 1840.) So we have to be very careful when trying to change locations. We want to be consistent but we also want to be accurate. Jean

A professional genealogist will be one of the speakers at the July 2009 Germanna Conference and Reunion: http://germanna.org/all_news

---- Sherry Nay <snay2@verizon.net> wrote: Do you remember the old IGI files that were on microfiche? Do you think that it is true that all of that is now on their computer site? Sherry, Yes, to the first question, and No, to the second. Why No to the second. Human error in transmitting. All who have used the old IGI files on microfiche and then went to the original records know that there were human error in transcribing. Then, putting them online caused some other errors to creep in. However, this is not very frequently. It just pays to stick to: Check the orginial record yourself. This is why I have ordered the microfilm of Schwaigern. I have heard the Willert for Wilhoite/Wilheit, etc., for years. It just doesn't make sense to me. I beleive and trust my dear friend Elke's statements, but I want to see for myself. One would think the Kraichgau has been studied to death. My friends at the Family History Center are use to hearing me muttering things like: "That's what I thought!" "I can't believe this!" and all those other things we say when a mystery becomes clear or at least somewhat clearing. A number of us have been staring at the village of the first Walckh in Flinsbach. Almost all of us agreed that the entry in the Flinsbach churchbook was Oberzarten was correct. Well, it is for today's unified German. However, I was looking at it the other day and slapped my forehead as the Welsh do. It was written in the churchbook in the form for the times in that area. Obertzarten! The "tz" became clear as I had just been working on my Katz family which is spelled both Katz and Kaz in the village today. It was all Katz back from the 1400s up into the 1800s. Cary

Marilyn@ gneolog@aol.com wrote: > Just thought that I would pass along some info on LDS records that it took me years to learn. ...when using the IGI portion of the records if you see a B, a C or a M in the Batch number -- that info was taken from an actual Birth, Christening or Marriage Record -- church or county records.< Marilyn, One used to have to order all the Batch numbers and then read them on microfilm. However, a lot of the Batch numbers are available for viewing ot the FHS site by just clicking on the Batch number. Not all have been put online, but eventually they will be. I was surprised to find all the female births of Flinsbach online at the Family History site. That is up to sometime in the early 1700s. I just clicked on the Batch number to see what would happen. Still, one should order the church records on microfilm and read the records yourself. With the printout of the Flinsbach female births, I was able to decipher some of the script that I had not been able to get exactly straight. Also, a few typos and misreading by the extracters were noted. But we all make those errors. I am still seeing things in my copies of the records that I evidently missed before. Armchair genealogy gets easier and easier, but then there are those who were experts in leaving no records! Cary

Sandra, Would like to correspond with you regarding the Garr family. Perhaps we are related. email me at buckybarb1937@centurytel.net I spent many years indexing The Garr Genealogy. My furthest ancestor in the book is Abraham but have lines further back. Barbara Rector Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Cowan" <sacowan@gmail.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] GEDCOMS-What You Need To Do > Hi Sarge > > I will probably not submit a GEDCOM but I would like my database to be > consistent. My husband's mother's family were Garrs and are pretty well > covered in the Gar Genealogy book. I have found errors in the book but oh > well. I use Brother's Keeper and it is easy to find and change locations > and to capitalise the surname. I am interested in the format for > locations. I do mailings for two non-profits and our post office during > the > last few years has insisted " no comma or periods " so I have been > trained. > Recently, I have been using " Podunk Whatever Co VA" but since the > majority > of my database is not consistent I am willing to change. I use 04 March > 1900 for the date and probably would not change but Brother's Keeper will > change my lazy entry of 03/04/1900 to my preferred method. > > I have been researching for about five years and agree with Peggy as my > first few years were sloppy and I am still not as observant as I should > be. I need to go back and look up lots of counties to add to city and > state. I have used "cut and paste" and am now paying for my laziness. > Even > my one hand typing is no excuse. My database only has 5200 entries. If I > was a faster typist, I could add thousands of name that I have received > from > fellow researchers. I also try to verify names before I add them to my > database. I am amazed at the willingness of researchers to help and share > their information. Thanks to everyone. > > I also noticed that everyone of my sentences begin with "I" , sorry > > Thanks > Sandy Cowan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I need to go back and look up lots of counties to add to city and state. Sandy, if you go to www.familysearch.org -- library catalog--place search (succeeding pages)  and put the name of your town in the PLACE search and the state in the PART OF search, it will give you a county for your town. You need to spell out the complete word for the state -- no abbreviations. Good luck on getting your files under control. At least you are starting at the 5,000 mark and not the 15,000 like mine. The first step is always the hardest -- or so I have been told -- so I am ready to take it. <smile. Take care all, Marilyn

So that everyone knows, the Google Checkout is separate from the Germanna website in terms of username and password. Since a Google Checkout account can be used at venues other than the Germanna website, it is a separate enrollment so to speak. If you have never had a Google Checkout account then you must first sign up for Google Checkout with a blank slate. This will allow anyone so enrolled in Google Checkout to renew or start a new membership on line at the Germanna website. The Germanna website username and password is separate from Google Checkout and the Germanna website username/password will be sent to you separately. Thank you for your patience as we get these new technologies working for us and thank you for your support of Germanna! Bonnie Knauss wrote: > I couldn't even update my membership online - have sent a note so I assume > it also will get taken care of. The google check out seems to think I have > an account but won't take any of my passwords or give me a new one. Maybe > between my note to Germanna and this list I will get it fixed. > > > Bonnie S. Knauss > > > -----Original Message----- > From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nancy F. Wills > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:22 AM > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Membership to Germanna Website > > Original Message: > Does anyone know how to get the username and password needed to access the > data on the Germanna website? > <snip> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Sarge I will probably not submit a GEDCOM but I would like my database to be consistent. My husband's mother's family were Garrs and are pretty well covered in the Gar Genealogy book. I have found errors in the book but oh well. I use Brother's Keeper and it is easy to find and change locations and to capitalise the surname. I am interested in the format for locations. I do mailings for two non-profits and our post office during the last few years has insisted " no comma or periods " so I have been trained. Recently, I have been using " Podunk Whatever Co VA" but since the majority of my database is not consistent I am willing to change. I use 04 March 1900 for the date and probably would not change but Brother's Keeper will change my lazy entry of 03/04/1900 to my preferred method. I have been researching for about five years and agree with Peggy as my first few years were sloppy and I am still not as observant as I should be. I need to go back and look up lots of counties to add to city and state. I have used "cut and paste" and am now paying for my laziness. Even my one hand typing is no excuse. My database only has 5200 entries. If I was a faster typist, I could add thousands of name that I have received from fellow researchers. I also try to verify names before I add them to my database. I am amazed at the willingness of researchers to help and share their information. Thanks to everyone. I also noticed that everyone of my sentences begin with "I" , sorry Thanks Sandy Cowan

Do you remember the old IGI files that were on microfiche? Do you think that it is true that all of that is now on their computer site? ----- Original Message ----- From: <gneolog@aol.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:22 AM Subject: [GERMANNA] LDS records > Just thought that I would pass along some info on LDS records that it took > me years to learn. Most of you probably already know that many of the > files are submitted by researchers and like many doing genealogy -- some > are good researchers and some are less than good. Some are happy just > collecting names and dates and some won't submit anything without a source > for the material. BUT when using the IGI portion of the records if you see > a B, a C or a M in the Batch number -- that info was taken from an actual > Birth, Christening or Marriage Record -- church or county records. It is > still helpful to gaze upon the actual record yourself because you know the > family better and can sometimes understand the spelling of a name rather > than guessing at the spelling in old records. At least you know a date and > a location to get an actual record. So look for those letters when working > in IGI files and as far as the ancestral files-- CAUTION. Take care. > Marilyn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >