I just ran across this in a listing posted by J. Palermo at: http://www.geniecorner.com/HTML/Lobb.html Maybe her being a slave is not the only error! No, I've not personally seen the grave or been to Lobb Cemetery. ~don -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cathi Clore Frost Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:58 AM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Lobb Cemetery, Blue Springs, Jackson County, Missouri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Johnson" <voodoo@wdemail.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:00 AM Subject: [GERMANNA] Lobb Cemetery, Blue Springs, Jackson County, Missouri > LOBB, Mary E. (Yager), No date, 7 May 1876 (S) > > 54y 4m 18da, wife of J. A. Lobb, G/7 > > This is the daughter of Ananias Yager! (She is marked as being a > SLAVE!???) She was married to Jaquiline Amber "Aquilla" Lobb *************************************** Don, The Garr Genealogy says she died 8 May 1870 in Jackson Co., MO. Have you visited this cemetery and do you have a photo of her headstone or do you have a cemetery listing? Find a Grave also has date 8 May 1870 with the same age you have so I'm curious about your source. Garr lists her birthdate as 28 December 1818. Given the Find a Grave and Garr death date her birthdate calculates to 21 Dec 1815. With your cemetery info it calculates to 20 Dec 1821. Any insight? Thanks for your help with this. Cathi ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To confuse you even more..... The 1860 Missouri, Jackson County, Sni- A-Bar Township Census taken the 19th of July, says she was age 43. I may be incorrect, but I have usually listed the dates in my files to correspond with the grave marker dates. Judy On Feb 14, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Cathi Clore Frost wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Johnson" <voodoo@wdemail.com> > To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:00 AM > Subject: [GERMANNA] Lobb Cemetery, Blue Springs, Jackson County, > Missouri > > >> LOBB, Mary E. (Yager), No date, 7 May 1876 (S) >> >> 54y 4m 18da, wife of J. A. Lobb, G/7 >> >> This is the daughter of Ananias Yager! (She is marked as being a >> SLAVE!???) She was married to Jaquiline Amber "Aquilla" Lobb > *************************************** > Don, > > The Garr Genealogy says she died 8 May 1870 in Jackson Co., MO. > Have you > visited this cemetery and do you have a photo of her headstone or > do you > have a cemetery listing? Find a Grave also has date 8 May 1870 > with the > same age you have so I'm curious about your source. Garr lists her > birthdate as 28 December 1818. Given the Find a Grave and Garr > death date > her birthdate calculates to 21 Dec 1815. With your cemetery info it > calculates to 20 Dec 1821. Any insight? Thanks for your help with > this. > > Cathi > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Crenshaw family was a very prominent family in and around Independence, Missouri. Do you have the name of William Lambert Yager's parents? On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:08 PM, Pat wrote: > Interesting connection. I descend from Rosetta Yeager (dau of William > Lambert Yager). Rosetta's granddaughter married a Crenshaw, who are > very > predominant in the Lobb Cemetery. > > Small world. >

My Fisher family line comes from Ludwig (Lewis) Fisher born abt 1710 in Germany. He married Anna Barbara Blankenbaker in Virginia. His sons were Stephen Albert, Adam and Barnardt/Barnett. I wonder if there is some connection? The name change could be why we do not know more about our Lewis Fisher. Judy On Feb 14, 2009, at 7:05 AM, Janice Murnan wrote: > My Adam Fisher, Jr. was born 24 Sep 1750 in Lancaster Co., PA. He > married > Susannah Jones 1777 in MD. > I have his Father as Adam Fisher/Fischer born abt 1710...probably > in Germany > (wife Nancy) and his Grandfather Johann Adam von Fischerback, born > abt 1684 > (???) > Does this hit anyone's line? > Janice > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Johnson" <voodoo@wdemail.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 7:00 AM Subject: [GERMANNA] Lobb Cemetery, Blue Springs, Jackson County, Missouri > LOBB, Mary E. (Yager), No date, 7 May 1876 (S) > > 54y 4m 18da, wife of J. A. Lobb, G/7 > > This is the daughter of Ananias Yager! (She is marked as being a > SLAVE!???) She was married to Jaquiline Amber "Aquilla" Lobb *************************************** Don, The Garr Genealogy says she died 8 May 1870 in Jackson Co., MO. Have you visited this cemetery and do you have a photo of her headstone or do you have a cemetery listing? Find a Grave also has date 8 May 1870 with the same age you have so I'm curious about your source. Garr lists her birthdate as 28 December 1818. Given the Find a Grave and Garr death date her birthdate calculates to 21 Dec 1815. With your cemetery info it calculates to 20 Dec 1821. Any insight? Thanks for your help with this. Cathi

If this appears twice, I apologize in advance! LOBB, Mary E. (Yager), No date, 7 May 1876 (S) 54y 4m 18da, wife of J. A. Lobb, G/7 This is the daughter of Ananias Yager! (She is marked as being a SLAVE!???) She was married to Jaquiline Amber "Aquilla" Lobb. -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:08 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Adam Fisher, Jr. Interesting connection. I descend from Rosetta Yeager (dau of William Lambert Yager). Rosetta's granddaughter married a Crenshaw, who are very predominant in the Lobb Cemetery. Small world. -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J Palermo Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:46 AM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Adam Fisher, Jr. Janice, Does your Adam Fisher, Jr. connect with the Adam Fisher (b. 1783) who migrated to Mercer County, (now Boyle) Kentucky with his father and uncles Stephen and Barnard? This Adam is buried in Lobb Cemetery in Blue Springs, Jackson County, Missouri. http://www.geniecorner.com/HTML/Lobb.html If it is the same Adam, I would like to know more about his time in Indiana. Judy On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Janice Murnan wrote: > Virginia: > I also have Yager, Carpenter and Fisher ancestors. As mentioned > before on > this website, we are stuck on George W. Yager 1808 PA married to > Barbara > Carpenter/Zimmerman. > I have information on Adam Fisher, Jr. who had residence in IN. > I would appreciate hearing from you, if you have any of these > people in your > line... > Thanks, >

LOBB, Mary E. (Yager), No date, 7 May 1876 (S) 54y 4m 18da, wife of J. A. Lobb, G/7 This is the daughter of Ananias Yager! (She is marked as being a SLAVE!???) She was married to Jaquiline Amber "Aquilla" Lobb.

Marc, Awesome plans! I am trying to figure out if I can make it both Saturday and Sunday this and the service at Hebron church is added incentive for me to work it out. Kathleen On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Marc Wheat <germanna1714@yahoo.com> wrote: > I loved Rick Willhite's note, and it inspired me to write a note on what I > am really looking forward to this July. > > The Friday evening of the Reunion Weekend this July, the Germanna > Foundation will be dedicating the development of new trails and wilderness > campsites in Siegen Forest. Members of Germanna Boy Scout Troop 199 (the > troop sponsored by your Foundation) and other scouting units will be on hand > to escort descendants and guests through the trails, and will also be on > hand to assist with canoe rides on the Rapidan River. > > On Sunday, the Reunion will be held at Hebron Lutheran Church in Madison > County. We are planning a special worship service that will include the use > of the very communion service donated to the congregation that pre-dates the > church building! This is the same communion service that the very earliest > of the 1717 families first used down through the generations. > > > > --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Rick Willhite <Richard.Willhite@mks.com> wrote: > > <snipped for brevity>

My Adam Fisher, Jr. was born 24 Sep 1750 in Lancaster Co., PA. He married Susannah Jones 1777 in MD. I have his Father as Adam Fisher/Fischer born abt 1710...probably in Germany (wife Nancy) and his Grandfather Johann Adam von Fischerback, born abt 1684 (???) Does this hit anyone's line? Janice

I loved Rick Willhite's note, and it inspired me to write a note on what I am really looking forward to this July. The Friday evening of the Reunion Weekend this July, the Germanna Foundation will be dedicating the development of new trails and wilderness campsites in Siegen Forest. Members of Germanna Boy Scout Troop 199 (the troop sponsored by your Foundation) and other scouting units will be on hand to escort descendants and guests through the trails, and will also be on hand to assist with canoe rides on the Rapidan River. On Sunday, the Reunion will be held at Hebron Lutheran Church in Madison County. We are planning a special worship service that will include the use of the very communion service donated to the congregation that pre-dates the church building! This is the same communion service that the very earliest of the 1717 families first used down through the generations. --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Rick Willhite <Richard.Willhite@mks.com> wrote: > From: Rick Willhite <Richard.Willhite@mks.com> > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Walking your ancestor's step > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 11:10 AM > Or just at a very busy time of life. :) > > All three of our kids are/were active in Scouts. Our > daughter is now in > College, but we have great memories of activities such as > camping and > rafting together. Both of our sons are still active in > Scouts. Our > son, Adam, has earned the rank of Eagle. > > Adam Willhite - Eagle: 09-07-08 > http://www.troop51bsa.us/Eagles.html > > The picture on the Troop's main web page is from the > Philmont Scout > Ranch in New Mexico > http://www.troop51bsa.us/ > > But, we have hiked and camped in many of Virginia's > parks and forests, > including Old Rag > http://www.troop51bsa.us/Doc/Old_Rag_area.pdf > > I have often thought about our ancestors while out in the > beautiful > wilderness that Virginia still has to offer, wondered if > they perhaps > walked some of the same paths, saw some of the same sites, > etc. > > It was hard work at times, but the boys loved helping take > care of > animals on the nearby farm, and we do point out that what > they were > doing was an everyday event, for many of their ancestors > who came to > America years ago. > > Yes, we have chopped wood for a fire, drank - filtered - > water from > streams, cooked our meals over the fire, food that we > caught, brought, > or picked (berries for instance) along the way, and we have > slept under > Virginia's moon and stars. > > At times you cannot help but wonder, as you are looking up > and thinking > about them, could they be looking down, and thinking about > you? > > Our time here is very short; our kids are only with us for > a little > while, treasure every moment! > > Rick Willhite > > > -----Original Message----- > From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of james > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:51 AM > To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Walking your ancestor's step > > The lack of responses indicates a lot of clean shoes. > > thanks for your reply > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Interesting connection. I descend from Rosetta Yeager (dau of William Lambert Yager). Rosetta's granddaughter married a Crenshaw, who are very predominant in the Lobb Cemetery. Small world. -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J Palermo Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:46 AM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Adam Fisher, Jr. Janice, Does your Adam Fisher, Jr. connect with the Adam Fisher (b. 1783) who migrated to Mercer County, (now Boyle) Kentucky with his father and uncles Stephen and Barnard? This Adam is buried in Lobb Cemetery in Blue Springs, Jackson County, Missouri. http://www.geniecorner.com/HTML/Lobb.html If it is the same Adam, I would like to know more about his time in Indiana. Judy On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Janice Murnan wrote: > Virginia: > I also have Yager, Carpenter and Fisher ancestors. As mentioned > before on > this website, we are stuck on George W. Yager 1808 PA married to > Barbara > Carpenter/Zimmerman. > I have information on Adam Fisher, Jr. who had residence in IN. > I would appreciate hearing from you, if you have any of these > people in your > line... > Thanks, > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.234 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1950 - Release Date: 02/12/09 18:46:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.234 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1950 - Release Date: 02/12/09 18:46:00

When we bought our land here in Texas it was our first time to live in the country. At first it seemed that we had even bought my ancestors land but was a different family and we were 1/2 mile from it. We have had chickens, geese, ducks, horses, cow, numerous dogs & cats. We have made soap and tanned our first hide. It isn't as soft as storebought but we learned a lot. Every time I go out or drive down the roads I picture what our family just 100 years ago saw and experienced. We are attempting a larger than normal garden this year. I truly recommend the experience if at all possible. With the economy as it is we may all need the skills. It is getting really serious here in Texas as well. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "d bellis" <dbellis@agsourceinc.com> To: "germanna colonies" <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:36:30 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Walking your ancestor's step When my husband retired, we bought an old farm (house is 120 yrs) on the Little Kanawha River, a tributary of the Ohio River, in WV - only to learn later that Abraham Thomas (and perhaps his father, Michael, my 5th ggrandfather) claimed and settled, at least temporarily, on "land in Monongalia Co on the Main fork of the little Kanaway (Kanawha) on the south side of said Kanaway to include his Settlement made in the year 1774" (Core). They have paddled up and down the river that runs by our house. We garden, have chickens, eat deer meat and fish, and are 2 mi of dirt road to the nearest neighbor, and it's dark at night and quiet. I often think I have some sense of how folks lived -- and then use my satellite internet connection to learn the weather forecast and whether the river will flood, and have my fresh roasted coffee beans delivered by FedEx - so I remind myself, it's only the slightest inkling. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have visited the following farms where ancestors of mine lived. Has anyone an earlier time for visiting an ancestor's home? 1. Hans Gahr (Garr/Gaar) lived at Kolnpach in the time frame 1545 to 1577. The first date was his approximate date of birth and the latter date is the date of death. At some point in this time spread, he moved away from Kolnpach farm (which was really Kolmbach). 2. Kilian Planckenbuehler lived on the Planckenbichl farm outside Gresten, Austria, in 1600.  Both of these farms had their names at the date above and still do today. It is impossible for me to say that the buildings are the original buildings. Mostly likely they are highl6y modified .It is known that the house on Planckenbichl farm had a thatched roof in 1930.  John john.blankenbaker@comcast.net

On the second Germany Tour with Germanna in 2004, several of us accompanied Carolyn Lundgren, a Cuntze descendant, to Niederndorf. While we were driving in the van with Herr Moulin and Herr Hoof, our guides, I asked Herr Hoof about the Fishbacks in Niederndorf, he gave me a rather puzzled look. So, I changed the name to van Fispe and he knew who I was talking about! The oldest ancestor to date for the Fishback family is Tyl van Fispe and he owned an iron works in Niederndorf in 1444. BC Holtzclaw states that this iron works was owned by Tyl van Fispe's father, and it is listed in "the list of incomes and rents of the Counts of Nassau 1417-19"!!!! We were taken to the area where the old iron works stood at one time and where his house still stands. We were blown away!!! Barb Price In a message dated 2/13/2009 10:05:32 Pacific Standard Time, john.blankenbaker@comcast.net writes: I have visited the following farms where ancestors of mine lived. Has anyone an earlier time for visiting an ancestor's home? 1. Hans Gahr (Garr/Gaar) lived at Kolnpach in the time frame 1545 to 1577. The first date was his approximate date of birth and the latter date is the date of death. At some point in this time spread, he moved away from Kolnpach farm (which was really Kolmbach). 2. Kilian Planckenbuehler lived on the Planckenbichl farm outside Gresten, Austria, in 1600. Both of these farms had their names at the date above and still do today. It is impossible for me to say that the buildings are the original buildings. Mostly likely they are highl6y modified .It is known that the house on Planckenbichl farm had a thatched roof in 1930. John john.blankenbaker@comcast.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62)

Yes, our household loves the GS cookies too! (I and my daughters were in the GS, too) But, we also love the Samoas and Thin Mint Ice Cream that Edy's puts out every year at this time. They are REAAAALLLYY Good!!! Jennie FL In a message dated 2/13/2009 11:26:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, germanna_colonies-request@rootsweb.com writes: I ordered 'just' 8 boxes this years (2 Samoas - try them heated with French vanilla ice cream; 4 thin mints, and 2 Do-si-os). My daughters and grandbabes will help eat them and purchasing GS cookies is a good ;cause' - I have seen GS make such a different in young lives :-) **************Nothing says I love you like flowers! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000002)

People, make the subject line match what you are talking about. I've read enough about Cookies but don't want to miss anything. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Murnan" <janorm@comcast.net> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Girl Scout Cookies > Thank you for the info Don. I am not familiar with any of these names, > but > will keep a copy for my records. There is a possibility my George W. > Yager > born abt 1808 could have had a father named George... > Geo. W. had a son named John born about 1832, but I do not have a daughter > named Elizabeth. > In the 1850 census, the family is found in Elkrun, Columbiana, Ohio. > Thanks, > Janice > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for the info Don. I am not familiar with any of these names, but will keep a copy for my records. There is a possibility my George W. Yager born abt 1808 could have had a father named George... Geo. W. had a son named John born about 1832, but I do not have a daughter named Elizabeth. In the 1850 census, the family is found in Elkrun, Columbiana, Ohio. Thanks, Janice

These YEAGER don't seem to be mine (at least not of the Germanna group). I am Meffert/Mefford descendant but not a direct descendant of this Peter Meffert. I noticed a Kaemper thrown in the mix too! ~don -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janice Murnan Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 12:57 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Girl Scout Cookies Thank you for the info Don. I am not familiar with any of these names, but will keep a copy for my records. There is a possibility my George W. Yager born abt 1808 could have had a father named George... Geo. W. had a son named John born about 1832, but I do not have a daughter named Elizabeth. In the 1850 census, the family is found in Elkrun, Columbiana, Ohio. Thanks, Janice

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That sound's like a great life. In a message dated 2/13/2009 9:37:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dbellis@agsourceinc.com writes: When my husband retired, we bought an old farm (house is 120 yrs) on the Little Kanawha River, a tributary of the Ohio River, in WV - only to learn later that Abraham Thomas (and perhaps his father, Michael, my 5th ggrandfather) claimed and settled, at least temporarily, on "land in Monongalia Co on the Main fork of the little Kanaway (Kanawha) on the south side of said Kanaway to include his Settlement made in the year 1774" (Core). They have paddled up and down the river that runs by our house. We garden, have chickens, eat deer meat and fish, and are 2 mi of dirt road to the nearest neighbor, and it's dark at night and quiet. I often think I have some sense of how folks lived -- and then use my satellite internet connection to learn the weather forecast and whether the river will flood, and have my fresh roasted coffee beans delivered by FedEx - so I remind myself, it's only the slightest inkling. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000004)