Yes, that would be correct. Many of the early secondary sources identify the wife of my Francis Slaughter as a "Miss Luggett," but she was in fact Jemima Suggett. Their daughter Mary married Capt. Hankerson Read. He settled in Woodford Co., KY, while their daughter Winifred (my ancestor) and her husband Rev. William Bledsoe eventually wound up in Gallatin Co., KY. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Winifred K Miller Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 2:15 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Slaughter and related to Jeff Ok, we are related as Robert Slaughter Jr. and Mary Smith also had William Slaughter married to Katherine Zimmerman. Their son Gabriel married Frances Sophia Hord. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

LNU is a productive family! Rootsweb just produced 55,676 hits for me! Perhaps we should upload the LNU tree! <g>

Older sources always linked this Slaughter family to an Anglo-Virginian named Francis Slaughter who was one of the many husbands of Elizabeth Underwood in the mid-17th century. This "theory" has been known to be wrong for decades, but you'll still find it popping up all over the internet. The truth, at least as far as I know, is that we know nothing about the origins of Robert Slaughter, Sr. I don't know that anyone has ever proposed that he might be German in origin, but I suppose it's not impossible. That being said, however, even if he was German I doubt that he'd have any connection to any Germanna family. He's generally said to have been born ca. 1680 in Essex County, and again as far as I can determine is usually assumed to be English in origin. Sorry I can't be more helpful. Jeff Duvall -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fred Duncan Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 4:49 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Slaughter Don/Jeff Question: I have always heard your Slaughter family is of English origin, but don't know ....I'm asking here? I am a Duncan researcher, but my Duncan line married into German Slaughters or Schlotterers, beginning in mid to late 1700's and continued intermarrying for couple of generations. Now, I'm pretty sure, via Y-DNA, that I have Duncan family relatives in early Fauquier, but have never seen a connection to your Slaughters there. My ancestor, Jacob Schlotterer, arrived in PA, in 1749 ....His history below: He was born July 25, 1732 in Bodelshausen, Wurttemberg (about 40 miles south of Stuttgart). He was the youngest of 7 children born to Jacob Schlotterer and Anna Barbara Albrecht. He and his brother Martin (born April 15, 1727) travelled to Rotterdam, Holland, boarded the ship Chesterfield, sailed to Cowes, England for supplies, then sailed to Philadelphia. Shortly after arriving, they signed the oath of allegiance to King George II of England on September 2, 1749 at the courthouse in Philadelphia. The arrival of the ship was reported in the September 7, 1749 issue of the Pennsylvania Gazette (published by Benjamin Franklin). Jacob was only 17, so he probably was single. I assume he lived with Martin until he got married. I think he lived in Germantown for a while, but no proof. But, Martin Schlotterer is buried at St. Michael's Evangelical Lutheran Church in Germantown. There is a marriage record for Christ Church, Philadelphia which says a Jacob Schlotterer married Mary Hoffman on March 17, 1761. Jacob acquired land grant in NC in 1757 and I believe he moved to NC after his marriage. I have always been intrigued by your Slaughter family, since I have a Duncan Y-DNA cousin who married Elizabeth Holtzclaw circa 1760 in Fauquier. Also, since Jacob's Schlotterer family married into Albrecht family, have always wondered if he was second/third generation. Anna Barbara Albrecht's father was a Johann Albrecht (b.1644) of same place in Germany. On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Duvall, Jeffery A <jduvall@iupui.edu>wrote: > Don, > > It's possible, but would require a fair amount of research to determine, > one way or the other. I don't know that anyone has ever published a > in-depth history of the Virginia Slaughters (i.e., the descendants of Robert > and Frances Jones Slaughter), although I know from private correspondence > with Mr. Dorman he once considered such a project. > > Jeff > > > Fred Duncan 136 Kirk Adams Road Angier, North Carolina 27501 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For some reason, about half of my emails sent to this list are returned saying that the Germanna Colonies email address is not valid.  So I am trying again to send this. Suzanne ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Suzanne Matson <holtzclaw.research@yahoo.com> To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:12:37 AM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wiley Family Cemetery in Rappahannock County OK-here goes.  Author is William S. Simpson, Jr Title is Virginia Baptist Ministers, 1760-1790:  A Biographical Survey Cemetery location was given by Mr. Simpson.  From the description given, Mr. Simpson visited the cemetery in 1988 or received detailed directions on its location from a local homeowner at that time.  He did not state that the cemetery was located on the local homeowner's land.  He did state that the cemetery was still there in 1988.  He gave no description of the area surrounding the cemetery so I don't know the topography.  He only said the graves were still visible but he could not see stones.  This statement seems to indicate that he actually visited the cemetery.  I don't know if anyone has attempted to locate stones that might be buried.  Allen Wiley was a Baptist minister at least part of his life.  Semple's history about the Baptists in Virginia mention him.  He is also mentioned in the minutes of Broad Run Baptist Church and Hartwood Baptist Church among others.  According to an article written by Dr. B. C. Holtzclaw in 1962 for The Virginia Baptist Register, Allen Wiley was instrumental in introducing the Baptist denomination to Culpeper and Orange Counties.  Thus he was included in Mr. Simpson's survey. I don't have access to Eugene Scheel's map of Rappahannock County.  I do have a topo map of VA but it does not show this cemetery.  I do not have any copies of the Rappahannock County Historical Society's cemetery surveys.  Suzanne ----- Original Message ---- From: Craig Kilby <persisto@earthlink.net> Some thoughts on this. What do you mean by "it is said that...."  Said by whom?  On what  authority?  When did they say it? Do you have Eugene Scheel's map of Rappahanoock County that may show  this cemetery? Do you have a topo map that may show this cemetery?  (or a cemetery  at all). Have you checked the Rappahannock County Historical Society's  cemetery survey records? Craig

(Thought you might enjoy Joan's serious, and sometimes light-hearted, explanation of "unknown" names in databases. Sarge) ================================================ Perhaps this article might help. (I sent this to the list earlier but I haven't seen it posted and it isn't archived--so please forgive me if this comes through twice): Previously published in RootsWeb Review: Vol. 6, No. 35, 27 August 2003. (From the RootsMagic Mailing List at Rootsweb.) In Search of the Wild LNUs A long time ago in a kingdom far away there lived a fair maiden by the name of Fnu MNU. She married a handsome young knight named Sir Arthur LNU and thus she became Fnu (MNU) LNU. Wait! Stop! Does this sound a bit like a page out of YOUR family tree? Are you spending sleepless nights prowling the Web in search of your elusive MNU and LNU ancestors? Or perhaps you've encountered them in someone's GEDCOM file on WorldConnect at RootsWeb, and after doing more searches have come to the conclusion that there are many researchers out there hunting those wild and crazy LNUs. Well, it's time to let you in on one of genealogy's best kept secrets: LNU, MNU, and FNU are not real names. They are acronyms. (Acronyms are combinations of the first letters/syllables in a group of words to form a new grouping of letters that can be pronounced as a word.) They are: First Name Unknown (FNU), Maiden Name Unknown (MNU), and Last Name Unknown (LNU). They are first cousins to the mysterious UNK ancestors that you might have spent time tracking down until you realized that UNK was short for "unknown". Researchers have used these acronyms, and other symbols and abbreviations, for years, with little or no uniformity from file to file, to indicate the unknown or missing names. The meaning of these acronyms is often unclear and can be mistaken for actual names by new -- and not so new -- genealogists. After all, we all have a few oddly spelled names in our trees, so what's a MNU or two? On another note, be careful should you encounter any DITTO ancestors in your line. DITTO is an actual surname, but it is frequently mistaken as a sur- name by those reading an enumerator's "ditto" entry to denote that the name is the same as the one listed above it. (DITTO and DITTOE are Anglicized forms of a Huguenot name of unexplained etymology. The names are found in North America by 1700. Ditto also is a short form of the Italian personal name Benedetto.) All of this name confusion serves to reinforce the notion that while user- compiled genealogies are a valuable tool in research, you need to examine original records to verify or refute what the compiled records indicate. When possible examine the records for yourself. What can you do to make your files clear as to the abbreviation or acronyms you use to indicate any unknown given names, maiden names, or surnames? There are no perfect solutions or worldwide standards. Some compilers, especially those who use genealogy software, put a question mark to indicate that a name is not known, but this is not recommended as some creative family historians use one question mark, while others use two or three, and a ? for a name might mean one thing to you and something else to another researcher A recent unscientific search at WorldConnect at Rootsweb.Ancestry.com revealed the following are being used as names: Unknown-- 2,742,761 LNU/Lnu -- 14,134 UNK/Unk -- 39,332 FNU -- 139 MNU/Mnu -- 3,357 ?? -- 78,201 ?,? -- 605,694 ??? -- 140,665 ___ (underscores of variable lengths) 6,244 - (one hyphen) 6,491 MRS/Mrs (as a given name) -- 555,699 [--?--] 3,125 Obviously there is no standard for indicating that a name is not known -- hence the confusion. The search even turned up an ancestor by the name of Unk FNU -- with FNU probably used as an acronym for Family Name Unknown. Not surprisingly, there was no birth date or place for her and one wonders why such information is even included. It serves no purpose. [Here Sarge MUST step in and comment. I agree 100%!!!!! FNU/Fnu, MNU/Mnu, LNU/Lnu, etc., are totally asinine when included in genealogy databases! Leave the names blank if you don't have anything to enter!!!!! The only exception to this that I would advocate is to list a wife's surname as something like "(wife of CRECELIUS, John)", when no given or maiden name is known, or something like "Martha (wife of CRECELIUS, John)" when only the first name is known.] Unknown maiden names should be indicated by using square brackets with a single em dash (or two hyphens, if the software, typesetting or word- processing programs will not accept or use em dashes), or use a question mark amid the em dashes -- e. g. Catherine [--] or Catherine [--?--]. The same format can be used when the given name is unknown or in doubt. The latter happens sometimes when you learn your female ancestor married someone whose surname is known, but not his given name. Such references can be recorded as [--?--] Smith. Some of the popular genealogy soft- ware has to be forced to use this format. [Again, Sarge steps in here. There's nothing that says that "Unknown maiden names should be indicated by using square brackets..." Heck, use whatever convention suits your scheme -- just BE CONSISTENT!!!!! I REALLY like entering an unknown surname as "(wife of CRECELIUS, John)" or "(husband of WILHITE, Eliza)", using the known spouse's surname.] In formal genealogical writing, the English tradition of putting a woman's maiden name in parentheses -- Elizabeth (Smith) Jones -- is commonly used by many genealogists. Therefore nicknames should not be put in parentheses, but rather enclosed in quotation marks. Example: Catherine "Cathy" [--?--] Jones. Again, your genealogy software program may or may not handle nicknames in this format or might require some tweaking. For those female ancestors with middle names that might be (or mistaken for) surnames, such as Mary Morgan Kirby, it is important to indicate that Kirby is her maiden name. If her nickname was Polly, and she married a Smith her name should be recorded so that in a family history publication it appears as: Mary "Polly" Morgan (Kirby) Smith. [Again, old Sarge must issue a disclaimer!!!!! I don't know of ANY "English tradition" of entering a woman's maiden name in parentheses. (SORRY JOAN!) I don't worry about what a woman's MARRIED name might have been when she married another husband; I enter her name as THE BIRTH SURNAME!!!!! Then, I show that she married so-and-so; and, finally, I include a NOTE explaining what her maiden name was, what her married name was from the first husband, etc. In other words, A WOMAN'S NAME SHOULD ALWAYS BE ENTERED INTO A GENEALOGY DATABASE AS HER MAIDEN NAME!!!!! Just that, nothing more, nothing less -- let your Notes explain the rest. After all, why do genealogy programs have Notes? Do you forget to use them?] Remember you do not have to fill in every field in your genealogy software. If you do not know the given or maiden name of a woman, either leave the field blank or use [--?--]. Her given name is not MRS, and certainly not Mrs. King William of England. [From Sarge: Thank you good spirits for giving us Joan to emphasize this simple concept! A woman's name is certainly not MRS!!!!! Her surname is certainly not her husband's surname!!!!! In order to make sure I am ABSOLUTELY understood, let me reiterate this concept. In genealogy program databases a woman's name is NOT "Mrs. Samuel SMITH" or "Mrs. Smith" or "Mrs. anything!!!!! When you enter a wife's surname as that of her husband, you just screw up the whole thing!!!!! THE HUSBAND'S SURNAME WAS NOT "HER" SURNAME!!!!! Get over it; stop doing this! If you MUST enter a surname, use some kind of convention that is more definitive, e. g. show her as something like "wife of SMITH, Samuel" or whatever you want.] Using acronyms or various symbols when names are unknown is not a good idea because you want to make it clear that the name is unknown so as not to send others and generations of future researchers on an endless and futile search for the wild LNU. Don't put your cousins in the position of having to ask, "What's MNU? Or who is Unk FNU?" Joan =============================================== Thank you Joan. We're almost "on the same page". Maybe one of these days we'll all agree on standards for genealogy database entries that are not only good practice, but also make sense. Sarge

Suzanne: Some thoughts on this. What do you mean by "it is said that...." Said by whom? On what authority? When did they say it? Do you have Eugene Scheel's map of Rappahanoock County that may show this cemetery? Do you have a topo map that may show this cemetery? (or a cemetery at all). Have you checked the Rappahannock County Historical Society's cemetery survey records? If there was a standing stone, I'd bet somebody would know. That long ago, chances are there never was a stone, or if there ever was, its was long since kicked to rubble by foraging cows, pigs and horses. But, there is always the chance it may still stand in some forlorn clump of trees. Craig On Feb 16, 2009, at 1:00 PM, germanna_colonies-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Has anyone seen the family cemetery of Allen Wiley and Eve > Holtzclaw?? Eve was the daughter of Hans Jacob Holtzclaw and his > second wife, Catherine.? It is said to be just off US 522 south of > the unincorporated town of Flint Hill.? At the time of his death, > this was still part of Culpeper County.? Today it would be located > in Rappahannock County. > > Suzanne Collins Matson

Sandi Gorin of Kentucky runs a rootsweb page about Kentucky Research. I believe you have to subscribe, but frequently I am able to access the older posts on rootsweb lists by searching the archives of the older posts of selected lists.. Lately she has been posting *delayed birth certificates* of Kentucky counties, and I spied a baby girl with the surname UTZ. In case someone is interested, here is the name of the rootsweb _KYRESEARCH@rootsweb.com_ (mailto:KYRESEARCH@rootsweb.com) And this is one of the latest subjects: TIP #740 – KY DELAYED BIRTH CERTIFICATE INDEX - BOONE CONCLUSION & BOURBON PART 1 These certificagtes pertain to children who have been born in the last few years. (When I think of delayed birth certificates, I think of those filed by my parents, born in the early 20th century, when their birth state did NOT require birth certificates. However, when the Social Security act passed, people began filing for delayed birth certificates. The interesting thing about my parents' delayed birth records was that each one had a lving parent who could vouch for the date of the birth, etc.) By the way, just to vertify that UTZ was one of the second Germanna colony, I did a search of the Family History Library catalog and did a surname search for the surname UTZ. If you have not done a similar search (surname search under the tab Library and then catalog) on the URL familysearch.org, I urge you to do so. You may find a family history or two submitted by a distant cousin. And a lot of these family histories have been filmed, and you can borrow the film, most of the time, through your nearby Family History Center--for a small fee. Remember there may be errors, but you may find some wonderful information! E.W.Wallace **************Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000003)

If memory serves me right, there is a website on Ludwig Fisher and his descendants. I don't remember it now but I'm sure if you googled it you'd find it. I ran across it searching for my own Fishers, but can't connect to that line. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Palermo" <jjpal25@kc.rr.com> To: "germanna colonies" <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:06:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Adam Fisher, Jr. My Fisher family line comes from Ludwig (Lewis) Fisher born abt 1710 in Germany. He married Anna Barbara Blankenbaker in Virginia. His sons were Stephen Albert, Adam and Barnardt/Barnett. I wonder if there is some connection? The name change could be why we do not know more about our Lewis Fisher.

Being the Smith's have been discussed recently wondering if anyone has come across Hugh Smith b. 1757 Barbara Rector Hill

Descendants of Augustine Warner 1 Augustine Warner 1610 - 1674 b: Abt. 1610 in England>Goucester Co., Va. c. 1628 d: 12/04/1674 in Gloucester Co., Va. .. +Mary Towneley 1614 - 1662 b: 05/15/1614 d: 08/11/1662 ..... 2 Augustine Warner II 1642 - 1681 b: 07/03/1642 d: 06/19/1681 in Gloucester Co., Va. ......... +Mildred Reade 1641 - b: Aft. 1641 --do George READE and Elizabeth MARTIAU/MARTIN (Nicholas) ............ 3 Elizabeth Warner 1672 - 1720 b: 11/24/1672 in Chesake, Gloucester Co., Virginia d: 02/05/1720 in Gloucester Co., Va. ................ +John Taliaferro Lewis, II, Col. 1668 - 1745 b: 11/30/1668 in Chemokins, New Kent Co., Virginia d: 11/14/1745 in lived in Warner Hall, Gloucester Co., Va ................... 4 John Lewis III 1694 - 1754 b: 1694 in Warner Hall, Gloucester Co., Va. d: 01/17/1754 in lived Warner Hall--Gloucester Co., Va ....................... +Frances Fielding 1702 - 1731 b: Abt. 1702 in Virginia d: 10/27/1731 in Warner Hall, Gloucester Co., Va. ................... *2nd Wife of John Lewis III: ....................... +Priscilla Churchill 1719 - b: Bef. 1719 ................... 4 Charles Lewis, Col. 1696 - 1779 b: 10/13/1696 in Chemokins, New Kent Co., Virginia d: 1779 in lived in The Byrd--Goochland Co., Va. ....................... +Mary Howell 1702 - b: Bef. 1702 ................... 4 Robert Lewis, Col. 1704 - 1765 b: 1704 in Warner Hall, Gloucester Co., Va. d: 1765 in lived Belvoir--Albemarle Co., Va. ....................... +Elizabeth (Thornton) Meriwether ................... *2nd Wife of Robert Lewis, Col.: ....................... +Jane Meriwether 1689 - b: Bef. 1689 ................... *3rd Wife of Robert Lewis, Col.: ....................... +Elizabeth Thornton 1713 - 1774 b: 1713 in Snow Creek, Spotsylvania Co., Virginia d: Bef. 10/1774 in Albemarle Co., Virginia ................... 4 Catherine Lewis 1705 - 1705 b: 11/02/1705 d: 1705 ................... 4 Elizabeth Lewis 1705 - 1705 b: 11/02/1705 d: 1705 ................... 4 Elizabeth Lewis 1706 - b: 05/1706 ....................... +John Bolling 1706 - b: Abt. 1706 ................... 4 Isabella Lewis 1707 - 1741 b: 1707 d: 1741 ....................... +Thomas Clayton, Dr. ................... 4 Mary Lewis 1709 - 1748 b: 1709 in Warner Hall, Gloucester Co., Virginia d: 1748 ....................... +Robert Throckmorton 1710 - b: Abt. 1710 ................... *2nd Husband of Mary Lewis: ....................... +Robert Throckmorton 1693 - 1768 b: 1693 in Ware Parish, Gloucester Co., Virginia d: Aft. 1768 in Ware Parish, Gloucester Co., Virginia ................... 4 Anne Lewis 1711 - b: Bet. 1711 - 1712 ............ 3 Mary Warner - 1700 d: 11/13/1700 ................ +John Smith 1662 - b: 1662 in of Purton, Gloucester Co., Virginia ................... 4 John Smith, Jr. 1680 - b: Aft. 1680 ....................... +Anne Alexander 1690 - b: Abt. 1690 ................... 4 Elizabeth Smith 1680 - b: Aft. 1680 ....................... +Henry Harrison ................... *2nd Husband of Elizabeth Smith: ....................... +Francis Willis, Col. ................... 4 Augustine Smith 1680 - b: Aft. 1680 in Lived "Shooters Hill" Middlesex Co., Virginia ....................... +Sarah Carver 1696 - b: Bef. 1696 in of Purton, Gloucester Co., Virginia ............ 3 Mildred Warner 1671 - 1701 b: 1671 d: 1701 in England ................ +Lawrence Washington 1659 - 1699 b: 1659 in Mattox Creek, Westmoreland Co., Virginia d: 03/30/1699 in Bridges Creek, Westmoreland Co., Virginia ................... 4 John Washington 1690 - 1746 b: 1690 in Westmoreland Co., Virginia d: 1746 ................... 4 Augustine Washington 1694 - 1743 b: 1694 in Bridges Creek, Westmoreland Co., Virginia d: 04/12/1743 in Ferry Farm, King Geo. Co., Va. ....................... +Jane Butler 1699 - 1728 b: 1699 d: 11/24/1728 in Bridges Creek, Westmoreland Co., Virginia ................... *2nd Wife of Augustine Washington: ....................... +Mary Ball, Washington 1708 - 1789 b: 1708 in Epping Forest, Lancaster Co., Virginia d: 08/25/1789 in Fredericksburg, Va. (breast cancer) ................... 4 Mildred Washington 1696 - b: 1696 in Bridge's Creek, Westmoreland Co., Va. d: in Spotsylvania Co, Va. ....................... +John Lewis 1690 - 1716 b: Abt. 1690 in Westmoreland Co., Virginia d: Abt. 1716 ................... *2nd Husband of Mildred Washington: ....................... +Roger Gregory, Col. 1685 - 1730 b: 1685 in Of Stratton-Major Parish, King and Queen Co., Virginia d: Bet. 1730 - 1731 in Spotsylvania Co, Va. ................... *3rd Husband of Mildred Washington: ....................... +Henry Willis, Col. 1691 - 1740 b: 1691 in Ware River Parish, Gloucester Co., Va. d: 09/14/1740 in Fredericksburg, Spotsylvania Co., Va. ............ *2nd Husband of Mildred Warner: ................ +George Gayle ............ 3 Augustine Warner III 1666 - b: 01/17/1666 in Gloucester Co., Va. ............ 3 George Warner ............ 3 Robert Warner William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Papers, Vol. 2, No. 4. (Apr., 1894), pp. 219-229 WARNER HALL. Augustine warner 30 Deceased ye 24th of December 1674, Aged 63 Yeares 2 Mth 26Ds. Thos dead whilest most men live he canot dy His name will live fresh in their memory True worth is highly shown in living well When future ages of his praise shall tell OLD TOMBS IN GLOUCESTER CO. 227 Mary Warner ye wife of Augus- tine Warner Esq. was Born 15th of May 1614 And Dyed ye 11th Day of August 1662. OLD TOMBS IN GLOUCESTER CO. 227 Here Lyeth the Body of Coll Augustine Warner31 who was born ye 3d of June 1642 and Died ye 19th of June 1681. Here Lyeth interred Augustine Warner son of Coll Augustine & Mildred Warner born ye 17th of January, 1666/7, And deceased ye 17th of March, 1686-7. 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Don/Jeff Question: I have always heard your Slaughter family is of English origin, but don't know ....I'm asking here? I am a Duncan researcher, but my Duncan line married into German Slaughters or Schlotterers, beginning in mid to late 1700's and continued intermarrying for couple of generations. Now, I'm pretty sure, via Y-DNA, that I have Duncan family relatives in early Fauquier, but have never seen a connection to your Slaughters there. My ancestor, Jacob Schlotterer, arrived in PA, in 1749 ....His history below: He was born July 25, 1732 in Bodelshausen, Wurttemberg (about 40 miles south of Stuttgart). He was the youngest of 7 children born to Jacob Schlotterer and Anna Barbara Albrecht. He and his brother Martin (born April 15, 1727) travelled to Rotterdam, Holland, boarded the ship Chesterfield, sailed to Cowes, England for supplies, then sailed to Philadelphia. Shortly after arriving, they signed the oath of allegiance to King George II of England on September 2, 1749 at the courthouse in Philadelphia. The arrival of the ship was reported in the September 7, 1749 issue of the Pennsylvania Gazette (published by Benjamin Franklin). Jacob was only 17, so he probably was single. I assume he lived with Martin until he got married. I think he lived in Germantown for a while, but no proof. But, Martin Schlotterer is buried at St. Michael's Evangelical Lutheran Church in Germantown. There is a marriage record for Christ Church, Philadelphia which says a Jacob Schlotterer married Mary Hoffman on March 17, 1761. Jacob acquired land grant in NC in 1757 and I believe he moved to NC after his marriage. I have always been intrigued by your Slaughter family, since I have a Duncan Y-DNA cousin who married Elizabeth Holtzclaw circa 1760 in Fauquier. Also, since Jacob's Schlotterer family married into Albrecht family, have always wondered if he was second/third generation. Anna Barbara Albrecht's father was a Johann Albrecht (b.1644) of same place in Germany. On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Duvall, Jeffery A <jduvall@iupui.edu>wrote: > Don, > > It's possible, but would require a fair amount of research to determine, > one way or the other. I don't know that anyone has ever published a > in-depth history of the Virginia Slaughters (i.e., the descendants of Robert > and Frances Jones Slaughter), although I know from private correspondence > with Mr. Dorman he once considered such a project. > > Jeff > > > Fred Duncan 136 Kirk Adams Road Angier, North Carolina 27501

Thank you, J. On Feb 16, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Rick Yeager wrote: > I have William Lambert Yager/Yeager as the child of Simeon Yager and > Elizabeth Lambert (Godfrey, Adam, Nicholas, Paul, Claus) > ----- Original Message ----- > >

I have William Lambert Yager/Yeager as the child of Simeon Yager and Elizabeth Lambert (Godfrey, Adam, Nicholas, Paul, Claus) ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Palermo" <jjpal25@kc.rr.com> To: <germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] William Lambert Yager > > The Crenshaw family was a very prominent family in and around > Independence, Missouri. > Do you have the name of William Lambert Yager's parents? > > On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:08 PM, Pat wrote: > >> Interesting connection. I descend from Rosetta Yeager (dau of William >> Lambert Yager). Rosetta's granddaughter married a Crenshaw, who are >> very >> predominant in the Lobb Cemetery. >> >> Small world. >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1952 - Release Date: 02/13/09 18:29:00

As far as I can find Lawrence Smith and Mary? had: John married to Elizabeth Cox, Lawrence married to Mildred Chisman, William married to Elizabeth Ballard, Augustine married to Mary?, his will proved 30 July 1736, Charles to Dorothy ?, Elizabeth to John Battails and Sarah to John Taliaferro. I have not checked the other relationships as yet. Found another note: "Robert married Mary, daughter of Augustine Smith in 1723. I will have to check this date. Some of this information in notebooks hand written and I really hadn't read all of the books she made notes in 1940's. You have done me a great favor. " James Slaughter, guardian of Frances Ellen Slaughter, executor of Smith Slaughter's estate signed 8 May 1827 for four hundred dollars to Cloudsley W Smith". He was the one that ran away with the money and left Frances Ellen for at least ten years with one daughter. Came home ill, however not too ill to not have George Lawrence Smith.

Sorry Fred, I really haven't a clue... but at the same time, I do seem to think that ~mine~ were of English origin... It has been a long time and I really couldn't say for certain. ~don -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fred Duncan Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 3:49 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Slaughter Don/Jeff Question: I have always heard your Slaughter family is of English origin, but don't know ....I'm asking here? I am a Duncan researcher, but my Duncan line married into German Slaughters or Schlotterers, beginning in mid to late 1700's and continued intermarrying for couple of generations. Now, I'm pretty sure, via Y-DNA, that I have Duncan family relatives in early Fauquier, but have never seen a connection to your Slaughters there. My ancestor, Jacob Schlotterer, arrived in PA, in 1749 ....His history below: He was born July 25, 1732 in Bodelshausen, Wurttemberg (about 40 miles south of Stuttgart). He was the youngest of 7 children born to Jacob Schlotterer and Anna Barbara Albrecht. He and his brother Martin (born April 15, 1727) travelled to Rotterdam, Holland, boarded the ship Chesterfield, sailed to Cowes, England for supplies, then sailed to Philadelphia. Shortly after arriving, they signed the oath of allegiance to King George II of England on September 2, 1749 at the courthouse in Philadelphia. The arrival of the ship was reported in the September 7, 1749 issue of the Pennsylvania Gazette (published by Benjamin Franklin). Jacob was only 17, so he probably was single. I assume he lived with Martin until he got married. I think he lived in Germantown for a while, but no proof. But, Martin Schlotterer is buried at St. Michael's Evangelical Lutheran Church in Germantown. There is a marriage record for Christ Church, Philadelphia which says a Jacob Schlotterer married Mary Hoffman on March 17, 1761. Jacob acquired land grant in NC in 1757 and I believe he moved to NC after his marriage. I have always been intrigued by your Slaughter family, since I have a Duncan Y-DNA cousin who married Elizabeth Holtzclaw circa 1760 in Fauquier. Also, since Jacob's Schlotterer family married into Albrecht family, have always wondered if he was second/third generation. Anna Barbara Albrecht's father was a Johann Albrecht (b.1644) of same place in Germany. On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Duvall, Jeffery A <jduvall@iupui.edu>wrote: > Don, > > It's possible, but would require a fair amount of research to determine, > one way or the other. I don't know that anyone has ever published a > in-depth history of the Virginia Slaughters (i.e., the descendants of Robert > and Frances Jones Slaughter), although I know from private correspondence > with Mr. Dorman he once considered such a project. > > Jeff > > > Fred Duncan 136 Kirk Adams Road Angier, North Carolina 27501 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't really think that there's any real question about Augustine's daughter Mary Smith being the wife of Col. Robert Slaughter, is there? I'm pretty sure that he names her as such in his will. It will probably take a few days, but I have a photocopy of a transcript (or more likely, partial transcript) of his will in a file, somewhere buried under a pile of dissertation research. I'll see if I can track that down. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Winifred K Miller Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 2:37 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wife of Augustine Warner immigrant 1635, thanks Jeff Yes I have many letters from John Frederick Dorman starting back in the late 40's early 50's written to my mother. He was young then and I believe lived in Louisville, KY at one time. He was the young genealogist that worked at the Filson Club. Let me do some more investigating. I know Augustine Smith, named Mary married to Robert Slaughter of the same county, as his daughter when he granted land to her Nov. 1, 1726 and later Augustine Smith to Robert Slaughter 5 Nov. 1728. Thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes I have many letters from John Frederick Dorman starting back in the late 40's early 50's written to my mother. He was young then and I believe lived in Louisville, KY at one time. He was the young genealogist that worked at the Filson Club. Let me do some more investigating. I know Augustine Smith, named Mary married to Robert Slaughter of the same county, as his daughter when he granted land to her Nov. 1, 1726 and later Augustine Smith to Robert Slaughter 5 Nov. 1728. Thanks

Thanks Jeff! I'm not descendant of SLAUGHTER so let's let it pass. I tend to recall Surnames and had to look at my database... -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Duvall, Jeffery A Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:19 PM To: 'germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com' Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Slaughter Don, It's possible, but would require a fair amount of research to determine, one way or the other. I don't know that anyone has ever published a in-depth history of the Virginia Slaughters (i.e., the descendants of Robert and Frances Jones Slaughter), although I know from private correspondence with Mr. Dorman he once considered such a project. Jeff

Here's the citations for the articles on the Warner/Towneley and Smith connections: Mary B. D. McCurdy, "A Discovery Concerning the Towneley and Warner Families of Virginia" and "The Towneleys and Warners of Virginia and Their English Connections" in Genealogies of Virginia Families From The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, vol. 5 (1981), pp. 538-90. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Winifred K Miller Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 2:15 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Slaughter and related to Jeff Ok, we are related as Robert Slaughter Jr. and Mary Smith also had William Slaughter married to Katherine Zimmerman. Their son Gabriel married Frances Sophia Hord. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don, It's possible, but would require a fair amount of research to determine, one way or the other. I don't know that anyone has ever published a in-depth history of the Virginia Slaughters (i.e., the descendants of Robert and Frances Jones Slaughter), although I know from private correspondence with Mr. Dorman he once considered such a project. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Don Johnson Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 2:04 PM To: germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANNA] Slaughter Jeff, Would this be the SLAUGHTER family that is associated with the WITCHER family? Mary C. Witcher, Nov 10, 1826, Georgia, married William E. Slaughter, Sr. on May 01, 1851 in Carroll County, Georgia. Mary is my 2nd cousin 4 times removed... ~don -----Original Message----- From: germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germanna_colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Duvall, Jeffery A Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 12:54 PM To: 'germanna_colonies@rootsweb.com' Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Wife of Augustine Warner immigrant 1635 Jeff Duvall (descended from Col. Robert Slaughter, Jr., and Mary Smith's son Col. Francis Slaughter) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANNA_COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message