Dick Eastman would put it in his also, he has one almost everyday. Mary On 6/27/2010 12:13 PM, Virginia Nuta wrote: > How about announcing our Reunion in their on-line newsletter? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Wheat"<[email protected]> > To: "Germanna Colonies"<[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:10 AM > Subject: [GERMANNA] Ancestry.com > > > >> A friend of the Germanna Foundation is arranging for me to meet with a top >> representative of Ancestry.com. >> >> What would you like me to ask Ancestry to do that would be helpful to >> Germanna researchers? >> >> We have long talked about developing a large database of Germanna >> descendants so that new researchers can quickly discover their Germanna >> heritage on-line. I would like to explore with Ancestry their suggestions >> on how we can build a virtual database by linking or cross-indexing >> smaller databases maintained Germanna Family Committes. >> >> George Durman has a great site with strength in the 2d colony. Google >> "Marc Wheat Database" for mine focused on 1st colony. I post mine on >> Rootsweb (free and well-indexed) and have links to the Germanna Foundation >> and Flickr for images of ancestors and their records. >> >> Perhaps Ancestry will let us register our databases so that they will be >> indexed as Germanna-related, which will help us all edit our overlapping >> branches. Other ideas? It's a good opportunity, and is likely to take >> place Monday over lunch. >> >> >> >> >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line >> data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 5232 (20100627) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Mary W. Ellis Registrar Battle of Alamance DAR http://www.ncgenweb.us/alamance/ http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncacgs/ http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mwellis/ http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncalaman/ (Brick Church site)

Sarge, Thank you for the reference. I also have heard the "Black Germans" were from the Black Forest area of Germany; but I think the site definition quoted below is pretty close to the mark: "Black Dutch is a term with several different meanings in United States dialect and slang. It generally refers to racial, ethnic, or cultural roots. Its meaning has varied in different parts of the nation and at different times.Black Dutch is a term with several different meanings in United States dialect and slang. It generally refers to racial, ethnic, or cultural roots. Its meaning has varied in different parts of the nation and at different times." As far as the term "Melungeon" is concerned, I believe it is a name that has covered many areas, especially in the deep south, that were wrapped up in racial conflicts that covered a whole range of ethnic and cultural backgrounds that did not fit into the general German-English-Irish settlers background. The Cherokee nation of Georgia, Alabama were brillant people, not only creating an alphabet for their language; but trying to blend into the culture by dressing and conducting business as all the other settlers, some owning property and business which were lost during the great march to the west. Many of those stayed behind and tried not to be a part of that march in various ways and many suceeded in many different ways. Chocy

How about announcing our Reunion in their on-line newsletter? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Wheat" <[email protected]> To: "Germanna Colonies" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:10 AM Subject: [GERMANNA] Ancestry.com >A friend of the Germanna Foundation is arranging for me to meet with a top >representative of Ancestry.com. > > What would you like me to ask Ancestry to do that would be helpful to > Germanna researchers? > > We have long talked about developing a large database of Germanna > descendants so that new researchers can quickly discover their Germanna > heritage on-line. I would like to explore with Ancestry their suggestions > on how we can build a virtual database by linking or cross-indexing > smaller databases maintained Germanna Family Committes. > > George Durman has a great site with strength in the 2d colony. Google > "Marc Wheat Database" for mine focused on 1st colony. I post mine on > Rootsweb (free and well-indexed) and have links to the Germanna Foundation > and Flickr for images of ancestors and their records. > > Perhaps Ancestry will let us register our databases so that they will be > indexed as Germanna-related, which will help us all edit our overlapping > branches. Other ideas? It's a good opportunity, and is likely to take > place Monday over lunch. > > > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 5232 (20100627) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > >

link should have been: left out the "e" in Wilhoite. http://www.chezjim.com/family/wilhoite-home.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "txshell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Don Raye (Don McRae Wilhoite, Jr.) > George: > I thought I sent Virginia this message back in May but I guess something > happened to it. > Shelley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "txshell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:42 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Don Raye (Don McRae Wilhoite, Jr.) > > >> 1930 Census Norfolk VA (Independent City) >> >> Wilhite, Donald M. 46, b. VA, parents b. VA, Policeman US Navy Yard. >> Wilhite, Elina(?) 43 b. VA, parents b. VA. >> Wilhite, Donald M. Jr., 21, b. DC, parents b. VA >> Dancer, Theater. >> Wilhite, Frances L., 15, b. PA, parents b. VA >> >> (Marr. record found for Donald M. Wilhoite, Jr., Lillian I. Dawson in >> Manhatten, NY, NY. 4 Apr 1932. ) >> snip..................

George: I thought I sent Virginia this message back in May but I guess something happened to it. Shelley ----- Original Message ----- From: "txshell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Don Raye (Don McRae Wilhoite, Jr.) > 1930 Census Norfolk VA (Independent City) > > Wilhite, Donald M. 46, b. VA, parents b. VA, Policeman US Navy Yard. > Wilhite, Elina(?) 43 b. VA, parents b. VA. > Wilhite, Donald M. Jr., 21, b. DC, parents b. VA > Dancer, Theater. > Wilhite, Frances L., 15, b. PA, parents b. VA > > (Marr. record found for Donald M. Wilhoite, Jr., Lillian I. Dawson in > Manhatten, NY, NY. 4 Apr 1932. ) > > 1920 Census, NY, NY, NYC > > Wilhoite, Don, 35, VA, VA, VA. no occupation > Lila, 33, VA, VA, VA. > Donald, 10, DC, VA, VA. > Frances, 5, PA, VA, VA. > > 1910 Kings Co. NY US Navy Yard > > Wilhoite, Don M., 26, VA, VA, Va, seaman. > > 1900 Census Dist. Columbia > Kenneth and Jennie Wilhoite found boarding with a family in DC. Fannie > said to have died near DC. > > 1880 Madison Co. VA > > Wilhoit, McRae, 32, VA, VA, VA. > Fannie E. 26, ditto > Jennie 8, Howard 6, Benj. K (Kenneth) 4, Nellie2, Laura !/24 (May) > Laura B. Stith 47, Mo/law > John F. Stith 21 Bro/law > various boarders > (Laura B Stith's two daughters Fannie E. and Mildred R. married brothers > McRae and David S. Wilhoit. see 1870 Henrico Co. Va. ) > > 1870 Henrico Co VA Richmond > > Stith, Laura 37, Fannie E 17, Emma T. 16, Mildred R. 13, John F. 12 all b. > VA. > > > 1880 Madison Co. VA Rapidan twp. Wolftown. > > B. G. Wilhoit 68, all b. VA > Eunice 66, David (son) 34, Mildred R. 22,d/law, female baby 2/12 (no name) > g.dau. > > Social Security death list: > Don Raye, b. 16 Mar 1909, d. 29 Jan 1985 > Los Angeles Co. CA. Mother's Maiden Name= > Slaughter. > > 1870 Madison Co, VA census: > > Wilhoit, Benj. G. 58 all b.VA > Eunice, 54, David S. 24, Jeremiah Mc. 21, Mary B. 17. > > 1860 Madison Co. VA Rapidan > > Benj G. Wilhoit 48 all b. VA > Eunice 45, Benj. W. 15, David S. 14, Jerem. Mc.11, Betty K 7. > > 1850 Madison Co VA Rapidan > > Benj. G Wilhoit 38 blacksmith VA (all) > Eunice 35, Benj. W. 5, David S. 4, Jeremiah 1. Henry and Reuben Mitton, 19 > and 18. > > Check out : > http://www.chezjim.com/family/wilhoit-home.html > Has Jeremiah McRae Wilhoite in line. Pictures of Madison Co VA. > > Missing one little link to finish off, but it looks close. Wish I could > have found him in 1900. > Ancestry public trees has him as son of Jeremiah McRae Wilhoit and Fanny > Stith. > > Shelley Gregory > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Virginia Nuta" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 6:23 AM > Subject: [GERMANNA] Don Raye (Don McRae Wilhoite, Jr.) > > >> Does anyone know the line of descendancy for Don McRae Wilhoite, Jr., >> born March 16, 1909, in Washington, D.C., said to be a Germanna >> descendant? He took a professional name of Don Raye and became a >> well-regarded composer of boogie-woogie and jazz. Best known songs would >> be "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy" and the lyrics to "This Is My Country," but >> what really impressed my husband was co-writing "Ballad of Thunder Road" >> with Robert Mitchum. He wrote a lot of music for 40s movies like >> "Reveille with Beverly." All the big bands Frank Sinatra sang his music >> and even Chuck Berry and the Rolling Stones covered "Down the Road a >> Piece." Billie Holliday sang "You Don't Know What Love Is." >> Virginia Nuta >

I called the company because I am not a male descendent and wondered if the test would help me but was told it had to be a male descendent if it came from your fathers side. If someone can tell me different I would appreciate the information. Nancy On Jun 27, 2010, at 3:23 AM, George W. Durman wrote: > At 6/21/2010 11:12 AM Monday, Corlee Morris wrote: > *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >> My dear fellow Germanna Descendants, >> There is now a DNA test that does not require a direct male or female >> line. It is Called the "Family Finder" test. As a FTDNA group administrator >> I have been hearing about it for over 9 months but I did not understand how it >> works. So I did not notify this list or any of the Germanna DNA Project >> members. >> I at last understand the "science" and I am now comfortable enough about it to >> let you all know about it. Many of the Members of the Germanna DNA Project >> have already bought the test. >> I will send out another email to the list so that anyone not following this >> email's tread will also read about it. >> Sincerely yours, >> Corlee MorrisGermanna and Morris DNA Project Lead Group Administrator >> (snip) > **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** > > Corlee, PLEASE explain this "non-female, non-male" line DNA test. > > I'm not surprised that you don't understand how it works. If you understand > the science now, and can explain it to the rest of us, please explain why we > should spend money on the test. You didn't give any results of the test. > > From what little I know about DNA testing, it's either done for the > Y-Chromosome > or the mTChromosome. What other way is there to do any kind of DNA > testing? You didn't give a URL for the website of the company doing this > unorthodox sequencing, so I'm concerned. > > Sarge > > ======================================================= > My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna > > My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: > http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry/~george/index.html > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have the information on all of Charles children, my grandmother was one of them, Flora Eva. If you need to fill in the other let me know and I will give it to you. If you can fill in from Charles and George Washington I would appreciate it as I have 2 different lines, although I am sure Mary Marcins is the correct on would like to see why other line is listed. Nancy On Jun 27, 2010, at 12:46 AM, George W. Durman wrote: > At 3/31/2010 05:45 PM Wednesday, Nancy Hinchy wrote: > *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >> I am looking for information on Charles H. Wilhite and his family. >> I have his father as George Washington Wilhite. Any help appreciated. > **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** > > Nancy, did anyone ever reply to you about Charles H. WILHITE, son > of George Washington WILHITE? > > If not, I have their ancestors back to the WILLHEIT/WILHITE/WILHOIT > emigrants, but have only one child for Charles, Nancy Elizabeth, b.1870. > My info on this family ends with Nancy. > > Sarge > > My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna > > My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: > http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry/~george/index.html > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 6/21/2010 11:12 AM Monday, Corlee Morris wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >My dear fellow Germanna Descendants, >There is now a DNA test that does not require a direct male or female >line. It is Called the "Family Finder" test. As a FTDNA group administrator >I have been hearing about it for over 9 months but I did not understand how it >works. So I did not notify this list or any of the Germanna DNA Project >members. >I at last understand the "science" and I am now comfortable enough about it to >let you all know about it. Many of the Members of the Germanna DNA Project >have already bought the test. >I will send out another email to the list so that anyone not following this >email's tread will also read about it. >Sincerely yours, >Corlee MorrisGermanna and Morris DNA Project Lead Group Administrator >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Corlee, PLEASE explain this "non-female, non-male" line DNA test. I'm not surprised that you don't understand how it works. If you understand the science now, and can explain it to the rest of us, please explain why we should spend money on the test. You didn't give any results of the test. From what little I know about DNA testing, it's either done for the Y-Chromosome or the mTChromosome. What other way is there to do any kind of DNA testing? You didn't give a URL for the website of the company doing this unorthodox sequencing, so I'm concerned. Sarge ======================================================= My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry/~george/index.html

At 6/27/2010 12:10 AM Sunday, Marc Wheat wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >A friend of the Germanna Foundation is arranging for me to meet with a top >representative of Ancestry.com. > >What would you like me to ask Ancestry to do that would be helpful to Germanna >researchers? > >We have long talked about developing a large database of Germanna descendants >so that new researchers can quickly discover their Germanna heritage >on-line. I would like to explore with Ancestry their suggestions on how we >can build a virtual database by linking or cross-indexing smaller databases >maintained Germanna Family Committes. > >George Durman has a great site with strength in the 2d colony. Google "Marc >Wheat Database" for mine focused on 1st colony. I post mine on Rootsweb (free >and well-indexed) and have links to the Germanna Foundation and Flickr for >images of ancestors and their records. > >Perhaps Ancestry will let us register our databases so that they will be >indexed as Germanna-related, which will help us all edit our overlapping >branches. Other ideas? It's a good opportunity, and is likely to take place >Monday over lunch. **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Marc, thanks for the "plug". But, I'm expanding and am adding more and more 1st Colony people to the database. I just need more input for those 1st Colony people. What's the matter people? Afraid to have the 1st Colony people added to my database? After all, it's entitled "Germanna, 1st & 2nd Colonies". Give me data! Won't promise it will be added soon, but will be added eventually. This danged Census work has crimped my database work, but I'll try to add your 1st Colony data. Just send me a GEDCOM (.GED file) and I'll add to my main database. (Fortunately, since I use RootsMagic, I can pull up my main database, and your database, and "drag and drop" people from yours to mine.) Marc has a great database on the Internet, but I'd like to have input for the 1st Colony from all you cousins. Don't expect to see your contributions right away. It not only takes time to copy the data to my main database, it also depends on how much time I have to do such editing. Marc, as far as Ancestry is concerned, I'm all for what you're trying to do. I don't have any suggestions, unless it's for cross-indexing "Germanna" surnames from all of Ancestry/Rootsweb databases into one central database source. Ha-Ha! As if that would happen. But... on reflection, why not! At least 75% of the people in the US today have at least one Germanna ancestor. We Germanna users could "take over" Ancestry/Rootsweb! Just kidding. Hope the July Reunion goes well. Sorry I can't be there, but work precludes it. Yer Cuz, George ======================================================= My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry/~george/index.html

Having studied linguistics, anthropology, archeology, social/cultural evolution, etc., for many of years, it is no mystery to me why some of our Germanna families might have some markers the same as people of "Jewish" descent. We all descend from people, thousands of years ago, from the Near-East/Mid-East, and it's no wonder that we might have the same markers as people who eventually became "Jewish", and, as a matter of fact, who eventually became "Arabic". We're from the same gene pool, c.10,000-2,000 years ago (maybe even 50,000-30,000 years ago), but that doesn't mean that any of our Germanna ancestors were "Jewish", as far as racial/ethnic identity or religion is concerned; we just have some markers that are the same from our ancient ancestors, before there was such an identity as "Jewish". If we were to compare the DNA of Germanna people to "Arabic" people, we would find many of the same marker matches, but does that mean our Germanna ancestors were "Arabic"? Of course not! You cannot compare DNA haplogroup markers while ignoring social/cultural influences. Read "The Seven Daughters of Eve" (referenced below) and read Dr. Peter A. Underhill's works on the "10 European Founding Fathers", and the books by Luigi Luca CAVALLI-SFORZA, listed below. Some books that you might read to help understand human history from pre-historic times to the present: ANTHONY, David W. - The Horse, The Wheel, And Language: How Bronze-Age Riders From The Steppes Shaped The Modern World (This one will tell you where your ancestors came from, how the languages of your ancestors came about, and how you are related to modern people who are "Jewish".) CAVALLI-SFORZA, Luigi Luca, & CAVALLI-SFORZA, Francesco - The Great Human Diasporas: The History of Diversity and Evolution CAVALLI-SFORZA, Luigi Luca - Genes, Peoples, And Languages (This one will explain the Y-Chromosome studies of our ancestors.) MITHEN, Steven - After The Ice: A Global Human History OLSON, Steve - Mapping Human History: Genes, Race, And Our Common Origins WADE, Nicholas - Before The Dawn: Recovering The Lost History of Our Ancestors SYKES, Bryan -The Seven Daughters Of Eve SYKES, Bryan - Saxons, Vikings, and Celts: The Genetic Roots of Britain And Ireland WELLS, Spencer - The Journey Of Man: A Genetic Odyssey I've read most of these books and am in the process of finishing the rest. Yes, I read several at once, switching back and forth to vary the topic. Plus, I have several more on the same topics, that I haven't even opened yet. I don't give a whit about the present discussion of whether or nor any of our Germanna ancestors were "Jewish", it's just that so many people writing on the subject are so totally ignorant of our human history. ======================================================= In reference to Clai Bachmann's post: "The Willhite Y-DNA haplogroup is R1b1b2a1a3. Haplogroup R1b1b2 is by far the most common group in western Europe and declines significantly to the east... This haplogroup is common among most of the primary groups who settled in Britain (Britons, Scots, Saxons, Vikings, Normans.) Haplogroup R1b1b2a1a3 is a small subclade of the preceding group. Outside of England, it has been found mainly in men from the Württemberg/Rhine Valley area of Germany (home of our ancestor). Present indications are that it arrived in England with the Anglo-Saxons. This subclade is defined by the presence of the marker L1/S26/DYS439(null). It occurs in less than half of a percent of R1b males, mainly with roots in the south and east of England and in Germany. I have seen other references that said in a sense our roots may have very well been Jewish and we were part of a people who fled persecution and settled in and around the Mainz area in Germany. Alls I know it awaits the results of further study." What is said about the Haplogroups is correct, but the inference that "our roots may have very well been Jewish..." is making assumptions in the absence of any sort of credible genetic data. If we trace back far enough, we'll find genetic data that puts us in the same families as those who eventually became "Jewish"; but, so what?! Damn It! If we go back far enough, we'll find connections to the present occupants of Africa -- does that mean we're "Africans"? Leave this "Jewish question" alone! Out Germanna ancestors were Christian for many, many centuries before immigrating from Germany. Who cares if they have "some" "Jewish" markers?! They were not "Jewish", either racially, ethnically, or culturally! If you go back far enough, you'll find, via DNA, that all the Kings and Queens of Europe have some "Jewish" markers in their DNA. If you could go back and sample Caesar's DNA, you'd probably find he had some Haplogroup markers in common with future "Jewish" people. In short, whether or not our Germanna ancestors share Haplogroup markers with "Jewish" people, those Germanna ancestors were not "Jewish", racially, culturally, or socially. Those Germanna ancestors never knew the word "Jewish" as it applied to their families! So, let's stop with this pseudo-analysis of DNA of "Jewishness". Do a lot of reading and then come back and argue the point. If you do nothing else, read David W. Anthony's book referenced above. It will set you straight. Sarge ======================================================= My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry/~george/index.html

At 5/20/2010 03:42 PM Thursday, you wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Betty, > I, of course, don't know the whole truth of this, but, I was always >told by relatives that we were part Black Dutch, "Black Dutch" meaning from >the northern regions of today's Germany. This is the part of my family that >came from Saxony and Mecklenburg, all having the physical appearance as >short and stout (in my words, built like power tanks!) Our family from that >region, while some having snow white hair in their very early youth, all had >dark hair. Both of my grandmothers were built like tanks; my other German >folk were blonds with blue eyes and medium to tall with that lean look, >those were from the southern part of Germany. > But as we all know, by the time of the first two generations, our big >German families married into other sects and than into the other English >Virginia colonies' families and those that moved into the Shenandoah Valley, >like your YEAGERS and my HITE-CHRISMANS, found some of those fast tempered >and hard fighting Scot-Irish families to marry. >Chocy **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Hi Chocy: Has anyone read the definition of "Black Dutch" at Wikipedia? If not, it's worth looking at. Lots of "what ifs". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Dutch Sarge My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry/~george/index.html

At 5/2/2010 07:23 AM Sunday, you wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Does anyone know the line of descendancy for Don McRae Wilhoite, Jr., born >March 16, 1909, in Washington, D.C., said to be a Germanna descendant? He >took a professional name of Don Raye and became a well-regarded composer of >boogie-woogie and jazz. Best known songs would be "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy" >and the lyrics to "This Is My Country," but what really impressed my husband >was co-writing "Ballad of Thunder Road" with Robert Mitchum. He wrote a lot >of music for 40s movies like "Reveille with Beverly." All the big bands Frank >Sinatra sang his music and even Chuck Berry and the Rolling Stones covered >"Down the Road a Piece." Billie Holliday sang "You Don't Know What Love Is." > >Virginia Nuta **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Hi Virginia, I've wondered about his ancestry too. I found his "bio" on the Internet, but it gives no clues about his parents, other than that his father was Don McRae Wilhoite, Sr. I don't see any replies to your query, and hope that someone will see my reply and give us a clue. BTW, for the rest of you, you can see his bio at: http://songwritershalloffame.org/exhibits/bio/C99 Don Raye was born Donald MacRae Wilhoite, Jr. in Washington, D. C. on March 16, 1909. After graduating from New York University, Raye began his career appearing in vaudeville shows, touring extensively throughout the United States and Europe. In 1935, he organized a nightclub act in New York and began writing his own material for the show. Under contract with film studios, Raye moved to Hollywood in 1940, however, in 1941, he joined the US Army and served during World War II. After the War, Raye returned to songwriting and produced a catalog of hit standards. Throughout his career, Raye worked with several collaborators, most notably, Gene De Paul. Other collaborators included Hughie Prince, Pat Johnston, Harry James, Freddie Slack, Artie Shaw, Charles Shavers and Benny Carter. The Raye catalog includes "Rhythm in My Nursery Rhymes", "Why Begin Again?", "He's My Guy", "Cow Cow Boogie", "Mister Five By Five", "Milkman, Keep Those Bottles Quiet", "Star Eyes", "I'll Remember April", "You Don't Know What Love Is", "Irresistible You", "Music Makers", "The House of Blue Lights", "Pig Foot Pete", "A Song Was Born", "Your Red Wagon", "They Were Doing the Mambo", "Down the Road a Piece", "Scrub Me Mama With a Boogie Beat", "Beat Me Daddy Eight to the Bar", "Rhumboogie", "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy", "This Is My Country", "Traveling Down a Lonely Road", "Domino", "Too Little Time", "Ballad of Thunder Road", "I'm Looking Out the Window", "I Know What God Is" and "Gentle Is My Love". Don Raye died in 1985. ======================================================= An even more in-depth bio can be viewed here: http://www.answers.com/topic/don-raye-1 ======================================================= If anyone can help with Don's ancestry, PLEASE post here! Sarge My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry/~george/index.html

At 3/31/2010 05:45 PM Wednesday, Nancy Hinchy wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >I am looking for information on Charles H. Wilhite and his family. >I have his father as George Washington Wilhite. Any help appreciated. **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** Nancy, did anyone ever reply to you about Charles H. WILHITE, son of George Washington WILHITE? If not, I have their ancestors back to the WILLHEIT/WILHITE/WILHOIT emigrants, but have only one child for Charles, Nancy Elizabeth, b.1870. My info on this family ends with Nancy. Sarge My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry/~george/index.html

How about William Dodson BROYLES, Jr.? Screenwriter. Robinson Crusoe - Cast Away (Movie) China Beach (TV Series) Apollo 13 (Movie) Entrapment (Movie) Planet of the Apes (Movie) Unfaithful (Movie) The Polar Express (Movie) Jarhead (Movie) Lost Shadows (Movie) Flags of Our Fathers (Movie) etc., etc. William Dodson BROYLES, Jr. ..William Dodson BROYLES, Sr. & Elizabeth BILLS ....John Summerfield BROYLES & Catherine COZZENS ......David Crockett BROYLES & Alice Fanny DODSON ........John Summerfield BROYLES & Mary Ann CROOK ..........Matthias BROYLES & Barbara LOTSPEICH ............Ephraim BROYLES & Grace McCAIN ..............Matthias BROYLES, Sr., & Eva KLUG ................Hans Jacob BROYLES & Maria Catharina FLEISCHMANN ..................Johannes BREYHEL & Ursula RUOP BROYLES, FLEISCHMANN/FLESHMAN, KLUG, LOTSPEICH! Sarge At 2/26/2010 03:24 PM Friday, you wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Do we have other descendants in the film industry? > >On Feb 26, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Betty Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > >Not only did I enjoy this funny, sweet, new movie last week but got a nice >surprise in the final scenes when my talented cousin Shea Curry appeared on >the screen. See it if you can! For Shea's background, education, training >and other credits, go to: > >http://www.sheacurry.com/ > >Betty >Elizabeth Yates Johnson >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry/~george/index.html

Very late in replying to Cary's post, but if Ancestry/Rootsweb didn't exist, what would we do? We wouldn't even be using this FREE Mailing List! No, Ancestry doesn't "comb the web" to add more data. Ancestry uses databases posted at Ancestry and Rootsweb and links all of them together, indexing them, and providing a wonderful resource for research. Don't trust entirely the data at Ancestry/Rootsweb, but know that the databases posted there give many researchers "starting points" for their further research. If it's not worth the electricity, stay off the Internet. Sarge (P.S. The reason I'm so late replying to old posts is that for the past 2 years I've been working for the Census Bureau and that work has taken precedence over my genealogy "hobby". I'm now trying to go through all the posts to all my subscribed Lists. Don't think I'll catch up, because I go back to work with the Census on 12 July.) At 1/30/2010 07:24 PM Saturday, Cary Anderson wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >rootsweb is now a part of Ancestry.com. Rootsweb was a free exchange, but >Ancestry acquired it. Some parts are still free, but Ancestry tries to comb >the web to add more data to its databases of families. Aside from actually >documents, I hardly trust much on any computer site. > >Some of these pay sites will even create a tree for you from their >infomation. At least I have seen a few that way. Not worth the >electricity! > >Cary >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry/~george/index.html

I have done quite a bit of work lately on the Germanna CRECELIUS family. I had two brothers born in TN mixed up and had some children assigned to the wrong brother. I "think" I've fixed all the problems. At least, I think so. Please take a look at my database (URL below) and see what you think. I've also added quite a bit of data on Jacob A. "Jake" CRECELIUS, last son of Otto Rudolph CRECELIUS by his 3rd wife, Maria Elisabetha DIEDERLE. Jacob left Washington Co., TN, and moved to KY for a short while, then moved on to Harrison Co., IN, which became Crawford Co. in Jul 1818. One of the reasons for my recent research was because ALL databases on this CRECELIUS Indiana family had everyone buried at the Union Chapel Cemetery in Milltown, Crawford Co. The fact is that many of the CRECELIUS family members were buried at the Union Chapel- Yates Cemetery, Grantsburg, Crawford Co., IN. Yes, the names are confusing, but they are two separate and distinct cemeteries, quite a distance apart. It seems that none of the previous researchers had ever done any actual online research for the cemeteries where members of this family were buried, and had relied on ONE original database that placed all of those members in the Union Chapel Cemetery. Whoever the "original" poster was, he/she also did not online research of the cemeteries either. Maybe no big thing, but if a descendant wanted to visit the cemetery of his/her ancestor in IN, he/she might have been guided to the wrong cemetery. Enjoy, Sarge My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry/~george/index.html

A friend of the Germanna Foundation is arranging for me to meet with a top representative of Ancestry.com. What would you like me to ask Ancestry to do that would be helpful to Germanna researchers? We have long talked about developing a large database of Germanna descendants so that new researchers can quickly discover their Germanna heritage on-line. I would like to explore with Ancestry their suggestions on how we can build a virtual database by linking or cross-indexing smaller databases maintained Germanna Family Committes. George Durman has a great site with strength in the 2d colony. Google "Marc Wheat Database" for mine focused on 1st colony. I post mine on Rootsweb (free and well-indexed) and have links to the Germanna Foundation and Flickr for images of ancestors and their records. Perhaps Ancestry will let us register our databases so that they will be indexed as Germanna-related, which will help us all edit our overlapping branches. Other ideas? It's a good opportunity, and is likely to take place Monday over lunch.

At 6/4/2010 12:56 PM Friday, Joan Horsley wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Marilyn, > >As for figuring out what counties were where when, then and now, you may >already know about this site. It's the best I've found to make those things >easier and are available for all the states. You can then combine this >information with USGS or atlas maps when locating specific properties where a >stream or other landmark is included in the deeds. > >This is the URL for the Virginia county formation map and you can find the >other states from there: >http://www.myvirginiagenealogy.com/va-maps.html > >Good luck! Sounds like a very helpful and worthwhile project. > >Joan >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** If you want a page that gives really detailed information about the formation of VA counties, see my page at: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/countyformations/virginiaformationmaps.html It's similar to the one Marilyn posted, but is MUCH, MUCH more detailed. I also have similar pages for other states: Tennessee: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/countyformations/tennesseeformationmaps.html Pennsylvania: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/countyformations/pennsylvaniaformationmaps.html North Carolina: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/countyformations/northcarolinaformationmaps.html Maryland: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/countyformations/marylandformationmaps.html Kentucky: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/countyformations/kentuckyformationmaps.html You can also navigate to other states than VA in the example given by Marilyn above. Just replace "virginia" with the state of your choice: e.g. http://www.mystategenealogy.com, where "state" is replaced by the name of the state you're researching. (No CAPS, all lower case.) Once on the website for that state, scroll down and look on the left for "County Formation Maps". On the next page, scroll down in the middle of the page to find your state page. OR... Go directly to FamilyHistory101 and look for your state: http://www.familyhistory101.com/maps.html Hope this helps, Sarge My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry/~george/index.html

If you are completely comfortable and happy with your present software and it is compatable with todays computer systems then I see no reason to switch. However if your software is as old as mine and you have to come up with new patches every time an updated windows operating system comes out you stand a very good chance to find you are at the end of the road for your tree program. I am being told that there is no patch available to make my tree program work with Vista and I have not had manufacturer support for many years, so I think it's time to switch and update. I think it would be much better to get used to another tree program then to upgrade my computer and figure out later I can't use my obsolete program at all and be in the "what now" situation and have to scramble to find a solution. Good Luck, Dan <<I still use an old free download of Legacy 7.0. Are there advantages to changing or upgrading?>>

In 2006 I transcribed two books on Pittsylvania County, VA- "Land Tax List of Pittsylvania County 1782-1802" and "Abstracts of Pittsylvania County, VaA Deeds 1783-1790"- which were published by Southern Historical Press in Greenville, SC. My contract called for me to receive $750.00 per book- a one time payment. LaBruce Lucas, the owner of Southern Historical Press, has only paid me for one of the books even though I have called him many times over the last four years. If you are interested in publishing a genealogy book, I would suggest that you not consider Southern Historical Press. Therefore I am going to sell the CDs of the books. I would be interested if any of you have any ideas on marketing these CDs. I will probably also put it on Amazon and Ebay. You can contact me privately at [email protected] I am working on several other Pittsylvania Books but haven't had the heart to really get back into it. Thanks for listening. Gayle Austin