Trying to tie down some dates for Thomas family ASSUMING that they came in 1717 and that Margaret and Michael were born in VA. I currently have Margaret born about 1718 and Michael about 1720 but am going to reverse those dates just because I think Michael is older -- is a male-- and apparently got married earlier than Margaret. What are the birth years for the Aylor children of Margaret? What are the birth years for the 5 Kaiffer daughters of Anna Maria Blankenbaker Thomas Kaiffer. I have that Johannes Thomas must have died about 1721 and am assuming that was based on Anna Maria's 2nd marriage date but don't have any info to support that. I need book and page # for 1747 grant of to Henry Aylor -- Michael thomas chain carrier I am about finished with as much info that I can gather on Michael Thomas -- other than the purchase of land on Fish Pot Run in PA. There are a couple of land disputes for a Michael Thomas in the frontier of VA/PA but not sure if these were for Michael Sr/Michael Jr or another Michael who was in the area so they are omitted unitl I learn more. Many thanks to John for all of his Germanna notes, Bud Thomas, and all of you who have helped me document this info. If I have missed something, please let me know More About Michael THOMAS: Court records 1: 1747,Orange Co., VA Chain Carrier for grant of Henry Aylor (brother in law) Court records 2: November02, 1752, Virginia-Council approved a 30,000 acre grant on the Monongahela,awarded to Reverend Klug and 17 others (to include Michael Thomas). Surveydescriptions have "MT" on boundaries. Land not developed due toFrench Indian War. Court records 3: 1760,Culpeper Co., VA Witnessed the will of John Harnsberger Court records 4: 1761,Culpeper Co., VA Witnessed the will of Anne Mary Gabbard Court records 5: 1763,Culpeper Co., VA received payment from the estate of Christopher Yowell for adebt Court records 6: 1776,Washington Co., PA (now) Yohogania Co., VA (then) signed a petition to the 2ndContinental Congress to recognize Westsylvania as the 14th State. "Thememorial of the inhabitants of the country west of the Allegheny Mountains"/Washington Co., PA Court records 7: March1776, Harrodsburg, KY Fincastle Co., VA (then) Signed the petition opposing theformation of Transylvania/Harrodsburg, Mercer Co., KY. "from Ten MileCreek area ---driven back to PA by Indians" Collins' History of Kentucky -Volume 2, p. 511 Court records 8: 1783,Washington Co., PA Signed petition of Inhabitants on the west side of LaurelHill and western Wilderness to lay off a new state to relieve them ofproblems-- land claimed by no one. "Monongalia of Old" by Veach DNA Match: 1685,Spotsylvania Co., VA to ancestral- Johannes for sons Henry, Abraham and Michael Jr. Land Purchase 1: June 24,1726, Spotsylvania Co., VA Patent, John and Michael Tomer (brothers) of St.George Parish, 156 acres, Forks of the Rappahannock,both sides of Robinson River Patent Bk 12 pg 475 Land Purchase 2: February1741/42, Orange Co., VA- 1/2 of original patent from his brother, John DB 7 pg98 Land Purchase 3: April 27,1780, Washington Co., PA (now)Yohogania Co. VA (then) Certificate for right ofsettlement made in 1774 - 318 acres on Pigeon Creek Land Entry Book 368 OHI 164– Entry 580/Washington Co., PA Land Purchase 4: June 21,1780, Lincoln Co., KY (originally issued in Kentucky Co., VA) Certificate forright of settlement for raising a crop of corn in 1776- 400 acres on South sideof Dick's River, BK 1 page 76 #728 Land Purchase 5: June 27,1780, Lincoln Co., KY by Henry Thomas-premption warrant # 955 for 1000 acres Land Sale 1: January 17,1769, Culpeper Co., VA Michael/Eve Susannah Margaret to Elliott Bohannon(Original Thomas patent) 156 acres DB E pg 734 Land Sale 2: March 10,1781, Lincoln Co., KY # 728 Settlement and # 955 preemptive land assigned toJohn Crow BK 1 page 102 Land Sale 3: September 14,1790, Washington Co., PA to George Kintner 318 Acres on Pigeon Creek A74 pg 192 Land Sale 4: November 01,1790, Washington Co., PA 100 acres on Fish Pot Run FHL # 1, 449,139 microfilm Migration: Bet. 1769 -1790, Culpeper Co., VA to Bedford/Washington Co., PA to Fayette Co., KY Military service 1: 1758,Culpeper Co., VA Militia - Sent to frontier to build a fort, under Capt.William Brown, near Pattisons Creek, Hampshire Co., VA. Stayed 63 days andreturned home without discharge. Commissioners asked House of Burgess forpayment/Culpeper Co., VA Military service 2: 1775,Washington Co., PA - (now) District of West Augusta, VA (then) Dunmore's War -Paid on 4 dates for providing mutton to milita, feeding cattle of militia,providing a hog and loaning a mare to the troops/Washington Co., PA Military service 3: 1776, Pittsburgh, PARegister 08464 payroll for 128 days service. Pd 9-12-6. Certifcates deliveredby Capt. Paul Froman. VA state Library records Military service 4: October1776, Washington Co., PA (now) District of West Augusta, Virginia(then) Revolutionary War, Captain, "Historical Register of Virginians in the Revolution" byGwathmey gives date and rank Military service 5: Bet.1778 - 1783, Washington Co., PA Stockley's Frontier Rangers Nationality: German Patriot Index: DAR and SAR Personal Interest: Bet.1718 - 1799, Michael was twice married - father of 15 children by 1st wife and10 by his second. He gave valient service in the War of Revolution and was aman of influence and prominece in the community" Ragan's History of LewisCo., KY page 414 Residence 1: Bet. 1726 -1769, Spotsylvania/Orange/Culpeper Co., VA Residence 2: 1769,Cumberland Co., PA (then) Fayette Co., PA (now) West side of the MonongaliaRiver at the Mouth of Ten Mile Creek on George Bomgardner's settlement"The Ten Mile Country and Its Pioneeer Families" by Leckey pg170/Cumberland Co., PA Tax records 1: 1764,Culpeper Co., VA Rent roll Tax records 2: 1773,Bedford Co., PA/Spring Hill Twp. Tax records 3: Bet. 1781 -1786, Washington Co., PA /Amwell Twp. - 400 acres Tax records 4: Bet. 1790 -1799, Fayette Co., KY Will Probate: December1800, Fayette Co., KY DB 6 pg 93 Will Written: March 31,Fayette Co., KY - damaged in courthouse fire, fragments left - wife Sus,children: Rachel, Eve, George, Solomon, Barbara, Abraham, Michael, Israel,Daniel

I just noticed the subject of an email was John Wilhoit/Willheit and Margaret Weaver. Her name is more correctly Walburga/Waldburga, not Margaret. She was born at "sea" since she was not listed in departing from Gemmingen but does appear on Spotswood's head right list as "Burga." John Blankenbaker

Thanks to all who answered my questions. Its nice to have people who are not shy about sharing their hard work. Why my family didn't want to tell us things about my grandmothers family I don't know but haven't found anything to be ashamed of being a Germanna descendent. Sarge, have to ask Army or Marine. Nancy

In re-looking at Germanna #13 and recognizing the fact that I lost a lot of my family in a virus many years ago. Do we know the names of their parents? Barbara Rector Hill

Sarge As Joel W married to Mary Wilhite is one of mine I have a question. Did Matthias and his brother Tobias both have a Joel? In the will I read of Tobias, Joel wasn't mentioned. Mary Broyles, Jessee, William, Michael, Conrad and wife Catherine were. I haven't a will of Joel in my program and have him dead in 1827. Have a Property List 1783, a marriage c 1766 and birth c 1743. Did Matthias(1721) ever have a will? I know Margery Ballenger married Stokeley Towles Jr. Was Mary Ballenger, wife of Matthais, Margery's sister? Any help here?

---- Elke Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > I am sure she thought about the name Johanna or Johann. You also wouldn't > pronounce it as we do here like John but like she pronounced your name, > Joanne. :) > > Elke Hi Elke, had hoped you would jump in and help with the "j." Loved my time in Germany, never knowing that my ancestors came from very near where I lived. Too soon old and too late smart. Joanne > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:30 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Jaeger > > > My name is Joanne and when I lived in Germany, my landlady called me Youan, > as the German "J" is > pronounced "yout." That is as close to the spelling of the sound as I can > come. > Joanne Yeager Thorne > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, the land that Marilyn asks about is the land that I mentioned once. Note the date of 1752. Before any action could be taken the French and Indian war broke out and that made any action impossible for a number of years. George Samuel Klug's son tried to revive the action about a decade later but nothing came of it. John Blankenbaker On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:03 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > In one of John's notes, he mentioned some land that involved Pastor Klug and that Michael Thomas may have marked the boundaries for the survey. Just wondering if this source is for the same transaction > > I needto ask John Blankenbaker if this is this was the land scheme that hewrote of at one time that had MT on the borders of the survey . .

Sorry folks, that wasn't supposed to go to the list. Virginia Nuta

Hi Virginia, You and I are also 7th cousins, once removed! Small world isn't it? I use RootsMagic for my genealogy databases and it calculates all the relationships. When I calculated how you and I were related, this is what I got: 7th cousin, once removed-ancestors Johannes BREYEL 7th cousin, once removed-ancestor Anna Barbara SCHÖNE 7th cousin, twice removed-ancestor Anna Barbara SCHÖNE 10th cousin, once removed-ancestor Conrad DÜRR You and I and Mary Marcin are related through the same people. We all go back to Johannes BREYEL (John BROYLES) and to Anna Barbara SCHÖNE; Anna's son, Hans Peter "John" FLEISCHMAN married John BROYLES' daughter, Maria Elizabetha BROYLES. 'Course all those FLESHMAN/FLEISCHMAN descendants married into most all the other Germanna families as did the BROYLES and WILHITE/WILHOIT families. At 6/29/2010 08:41 PM Tuesday, Virginia Nuta wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >I calculated my degree of cousinhood for Mary Marcin and we are also 7th >cousins, once removed. Framily Tree Maker picked John Cristian Wilhoit and >Waldburga Weaver for this calculation. I am also descended from Adam >Wilheit and Catherine Broyles. So what am I to you, Sarge? I don't have >your descent. My line is: > >Adam Wilheit and Catherine Broyles >George Wilheit and Elizabeth Utz >Margaret Wilheit and John W. Yager >Laban Yager and Sarah Carpenter >Franklin W. Yager and Harriet Kelley >Joan Yager and Alfred J. Rhodes >Lee Rhodes and Edna Habegger >Dad > >I have noticed that my Family Tree Maker relationships chart will only >calculate ONE relationship, when -- because the lines get so entangled, I >sometimes have more than one degree of cousinhood. How do other databases >do in that regard? > >Virginia Nuta (snip) My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html

I guess I am also 7th cousin to you since Mary and I are related by our grandmothers who were sisters. Its nice to have more relatives. Nancy On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Virginia Nuta wrote: > I calculated my degree of cousinhood for Mary Marcin and we are also 7th > cousins, once removed. Framily Tree Maker picked John Cristian Wilhoit and > Waldburga Weaver for this calculation. I am also descended from Adam > Wilheit and Catherine Broyles. So what am I to you, Sarge? I don't have > your descent. My line is: > > Adam Wilheit and Catherine Broyles > George Wilheit and Elizabeth Utz > Margaret Wilheit and John W. Yager > Laban Yager and Sarah Carpenter > Franklin W. Yager and Harriet Kelley > Joan Yager and Alfred J. Rhodes > Lee Rhodes and Edna Habegger > Dad > > I have noticed that my Family Tree Maker relationships chart will only > calculate ONE relationship, when -- because the lines get so entangled, I > sometimes have more than one degree of cousinhood. How do other databases > do in that regard? > > Virginia Nuta > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George W. Durman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:29 AM > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Charles H. Wilhite > > >> Hello Mary, >> >> I put your ancestors into my database, then did a "Relationship >> Calculation" in the program. You and I are 7th Cousins, once >> removed! Now I have another cousin I never knew about. >> >> Yer Cuz, >> Sarge >> >> At 6/28/2010 12:10 PM Monday, Mary Marcin wrote: >> *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >>> Hi, >>> I am Mary Boicourt Marcin G-Great Granddaughter of Charles Henry >>> Wilhite. My Great Grandmother was Nancy Elizabeth Wilhite. My >>> grandmother was her daughter Lillian Speer and my mother was Lenna Mae >>> Bays who married Ray L. Boicourt. >>> >>> What I may have said is that Charles Wilhite is the product of two >>> WILLHEIT/WILHITE/WILHOIT lines. His parents were George Washington >>> Wilhite & Nancy Wilhoit Wilhite. >>> His paternal Grandfather was Humphrey Wilhite. The maternal grandfather >>> of Charles H. Wilhite was Joseph Thornton Wilhite. >>> >>> >>> The first wife of Charles H. Wilhite was Mary Elizabeth Combs who also >>> had Germanna roots. Mary E. Combs is the G-Granddaughter of Elizabeth >>> Gaar/Garr. Her G-G-Grandparents were Benjamin Gaar/Garr and Margaret >>> Crigler >>> Mary >>> (snip) >> **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line >> data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 5236 (20100629) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I calculated my degree of cousinhood for Mary Marcin and we are also 7th cousins, once removed. Framily Tree Maker picked John Cristian Wilhoit and Waldburga Weaver for this calculation. I am also descended from Adam Wilheit and Catherine Broyles. So what am I to you, Sarge? I don't have your descent. My line is: Adam Wilheit and Catherine Broyles George Wilheit and Elizabeth Utz Margaret Wilheit and John W. Yager Laban Yager and Sarah Carpenter Franklin W. Yager and Harriet Kelley Joan Yager and Alfred J. Rhodes Lee Rhodes and Edna Habegger Dad I have noticed that my Family Tree Maker relationships chart will only calculate ONE relationship, when -- because the lines get so entangled, I sometimes have more than one degree of cousinhood. How do other databases do in that regard? Virginia Nuta ----- Original Message ----- From: "George W. Durman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Charles H. Wilhite > Hello Mary, > > I put your ancestors into my database, then did a "Relationship > Calculation" in the program. You and I are 7th Cousins, once > removed! Now I have another cousin I never knew about. > > Yer Cuz, > Sarge > > At 6/28/2010 12:10 PM Monday, Mary Marcin wrote: > *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >>Hi, >>I am Mary Boicourt Marcin G-Great Granddaughter of Charles Henry >>Wilhite. My Great Grandmother was Nancy Elizabeth Wilhite. My >>grandmother was her daughter Lillian Speer and my mother was Lenna Mae >>Bays who married Ray L. Boicourt. >> >>What I may have said is that Charles Wilhite is the product of two >>WILLHEIT/WILHITE/WILHOIT lines. His parents were George Washington >>Wilhite & Nancy Wilhoit Wilhite. >>His paternal Grandfather was Humphrey Wilhite. The maternal grandfather >>of Charles H. Wilhite was Joseph Thornton Wilhite. >> >> >>The first wife of Charles H. Wilhite was Mary Elizabeth Combs who also >>had Germanna roots. Mary E. Combs is the G-Granddaughter of Elizabeth >>Gaar/Garr. Her G-G-Grandparents were Benjamin Gaar/Garr and Margaret >>Crigler >>Mary >>(snip) > **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 5236 (20100629) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > >

I am sure she thought about the name Johanna or Johann. You also wouldn't pronounce it as we do here like John but like she pronounced your name, Joanne. :) Elke -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Jaeger My name is Joanne and when I lived in Germany, my landlady called me Youan, as the German "J" is pronounced "yout." That is as close to the spelling of the sound as I can come. Joanne Yeager Thorne If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In one of John's notes, he mentioned some land that involved Pastor Klug and that Michael Thomas may have marked the boundaries for the survey. Just wondering if this source is for the same transaction I needto ask John Blankenbaker if this is this was the land scheme that hewrote of at one time that had MT on the borders of the survey "Executive Journals of the Council of ColonialVirginia on page 694 of the volume for miscellaneous papers. It showsthat on 2 November 1752 the Council approved a 30,000 acre grant on theMonongahela, north of the Greenbrier and south of the Youghiogheny onwhat is called the "Goose River". This is significant since it suggeststhat the Tygart Valley River may have been called the Goose River in1752. And the name fits since names such as Goose Creek in RitcbieCounty were so named since flocks of wild geese were seen at thoselocations by early settlers (See Comstock Page 1940). Geese aremigratory birds that graze on grass which suggests that there may havebeen significant amounts of grassland in the Tygart Valley in 1752.The 1752 grant was awarded to Reverend George Samuel Klug, a Luthernminister from the area that is today in Madison County, Virginia, alongwith 17 others, evidently members of his congregation. They includeMichael Thomas, Nicholas Nutt, Jacob Burner, Henry Baughman, AbrahamMyers, Stephen Sewell, Abraham Brown, Adam Wayland, Adam Broyle, Adamand John Barler, Matthew and Nicholas Smith, Henry Ailer, MichaelRussell, John Ralchbach and Paul Lederer. At least nine of these namesappear in the early records of western Virginia" http://pages.swcp.com/~dhickman/journals/V6I3/nicknutt.html

Virginia, If you go to yourself, in your database, and do a kinship report, it will create a savable report showing multiple kinship to various cousins. I don't quite recall where, but it can also be configured to show half-cousins. ~don -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Virginia Nuta Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Charles H. Wilhite I calculated my degree of cousinhood for Mary Marcin and we are also 7th cousins, once removed. Framily Tree Maker picked John Cristian Wilhoit and Waldburga Weaver for this calculation. I am also descended from Adam Wilheit and Catherine Broyles. So what am I to you, Sarge? I don't have your descent. My line is: Adam Wilheit and Catherine Broyles George Wilheit and Elizabeth Utz Margaret Wilheit and John W. Yager Laban Yager and Sarah Carpenter Franklin W. Yager and Harriet Kelley Joan Yager and Alfred J. Rhodes Lee Rhodes and Edna Habegger Dad I have noticed that my Family Tree Maker relationships chart will only calculate ONE relationship, when -- because the lines get so entangled, I sometimes have more than one degree of cousinhood. How do other databases do in that regard? Virginia Nuta ----- Original Message ----- From: "George W. Durman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Charles H. Wilhite > Hello Mary, > > I put your ancestors into my database, then did a "Relationship > Calculation" in the program. You and I are 7th Cousins, once > removed! Now I have another cousin I never knew about. > > Yer Cuz, > Sarge > > At 6/28/2010 12:10 PM Monday, Mary Marcin wrote: > *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >>Hi, >>I am Mary Boicourt Marcin G-Great Granddaughter of Charles Henry >>Wilhite. My Great Grandmother was Nancy Elizabeth Wilhite. My >>grandmother was her daughter Lillian Speer and my mother was Lenna Mae >>Bays who married Ray L. Boicourt. >> >>What I may have said is that Charles Wilhite is the product of two >>WILLHEIT/WILHITE/WILHOIT lines. His parents were George Washington >>Wilhite & Nancy Wilhoit Wilhite. >>His paternal Grandfather was Humphrey Wilhite. The maternal grandfather >>of Charles H. Wilhite was Joseph Thornton Wilhite. >> >> >>The first wife of Charles H. Wilhite was Mary Elizabeth Combs who also >>had Germanna roots. Mary E. Combs is the G-Granddaughter of Elizabeth >>Gaar/Garr. Her G-G-Grandparents were Benjamin Gaar/Garr and Margaret >>Crigler >>Mary >>(snip) > **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 5236 (20100629) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My name is Joanne and when I lived in Germany, my landlady called me Youan, as the German "J" is pronounced "yout." That is as close to the spelling of the sound as I can come. Joanne Yeager Thorne

Mary, thanks for the update. Going to see I have this other Charles in my database, and, if not, to add his family. Sarge At 6/29/2010 12:08 PM Tuesday, Mary Marcin wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Two Charles Wilhites > >I recently discovered another Charles Wilhite born around the same time >as my G-Great Grandfather Charles Henry Wilhite. He is Charles P >Wilhite born in Indiana. Aaron Wilhoit/Wilhite is the great grandfather >of both Charles Wilhites. > >Charles Henry Wilhite is the son of George Washington Wilhite, Grandson >of Humphrey Wilhite & Great Grandson of Joel Wilhite. Charles H. Wilhite >was born in Illinois in 1844. > >Charles P Wilhite is the son of Elijah L. Wilhite, Grandson of Lameck >Wilhoit & Great Grandson of Joel Wilhite. Charles P. Wilhite was born in >Indiana in1859. > > >Mary Boicourt Marcin >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html

Oh, I'm all for "embracing" Germanna women! Sarge At 6/29/2010 08:47 AM Tuesday, [email protected] wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >I think Sarge would agree with me that it's time we start embracing more > >Germanna women! ;-) > >So true -- now if I could only identify the first wife of Michael Thomas and >the two wives of John Thomas, I would be ONE HAPPY CAMPER. Oh well, it's not >going to happen so I'll just be a HAPPY CAMPER anyway. Take care. Marilyn My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html

Absolutely Agree! My Germanna ancestry includes, besides BROYLES: FLEISCHMANN/FLESHMAN, KLUG, SCHÖNE, & ÜHL/YOWELL, plus other German families from the Baden-Württemberg area: BAST/BOST, GEORGE, GESSLER/CASTLER, GOTTSAURIN, MÖHLER, RUOP, SCHNELL, & SIGMAN. Sarge At 6/29/2010 08:33 AM Tuesday, Marc Wheat wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Other families that are "glue" include the Heimbach and Otterbach >families. Probably the reason they are not embraced by many descendants is >that these were female lines and the surname did not descend as widely in >America. > >I think Sarge would agree with me that it's time we start embracing more >Germanna women! ;-) > > >On Jun 29, 2010, at 1:28 AM, "George W. Durman" <[email protected]> >wrote: > >I saw this from Virginia Nuta: > >Hi Mary-- > >I always think of the Willheits as being Second Colony glue--so many of us >have Willheit genes mixed in with our other families. >(sip) > >Virginia Nuta > >======================================================= >In our recent discussions of WILHITE/WILHOIT/however it was spelled >over time, much has been made about how that family was/is related to so >many other Germanna families. What I wonder is, "Why is the BROYLES >family never mentioned in the same light? Adam WILHITE married Catherine >BROYLES, daughter of the emigrant Johannes BREYEL (John BROYLES); >Conrad Reuben WILHOITE married Mary Elizabeth BROYLES, granddaughter >of John BROYLES. > >Descendants of Adam and Conrad Reuben include the following families: >CARPENTER, CRISLER, UTZ, SNYDER, CLORE, BLANKENBAKER, AYLOR, >ROUSE, TANNER, WEAVER, WAYLAND, YOWELL, FISHBACK, MILLER, >RACER, CREIGLER, SOUTHER, YAGER, GAAR/GARR, PAINTER, HOLT, >FINKS, and others. But no mention is never made about the BROYLES >contribution to relationships of all the rest of the Germanna families. If >you >have a WILHITE/WILHOIT/etc. ancestor, chances are pretty dang good >that you also have a BROYLES ancestor. > >I guess what I'm getting at is that WILHITE/WILHOIT gets top billing but we >so very rarely see the BROYLES family referred to as "Second Colony glue". >Why? > >Sarge My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html

Absolutely Agree! My Germanna ancestry includes, besides BROYLES: FLEISCHMANN/FLESHMAN, KLUG, SCHÖNE, & ÜHL/YOWELL, plus other German families from the Baden-Württemberg area: BAST/BOST, GEORGE, GESSLER/CASTLER, GOTTSAURIN, MÖHLER, RUOP, SCHNELL, & SIGMAN. Sarge At 6/29/2010 08:33 AM Tuesday, Marc Wheat wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Other families that are "glue" include the Heimbach and Otterbach >families. Probably the reason they are not embraced by many descendants is >that these were female lines and the surname did not descend as widely in >America. > >I think Sarge would agree with me that it's time we start embracing more >Germanna women! ;-) > > >On Jun 29, 2010, at 1:28 AM, "George W. Durman" <[email protected]> >wrote: > >I saw this from Virginia Nuta: > >Hi Mary-- > >I always think of the Willheits as being Second Colony glue--so many of us >have Willheit genes mixed in with our other families. >(sip) > >Virginia Nuta > >======================================================= >In our recent discussions of WILHITE/WILHOIT/however it was spelled >over time, much has been made about how that family was/is related to so >many other Germanna families. What I wonder is, "Why is the BROYLES >family never mentioned in the same light? Adam WILHITE married Catherine >BROYLES, daughter of the emigrant Johannes BREYEL (John BROYLES); >Conrad Reuben WILHOITE married Mary Elizabeth BROYLES, granddaughter >of John BROYLES. > >Descendants of Adam and Conrad Reuben include the following families: >CARPENTER, CRISLER, UTZ, SNYDER, CLORE, BLANKENBAKER, AYLOR, >ROUSE, TANNER, WEAVER, WAYLAND, YOWELL, FISHBACK, MILLER, >RACER, CREIGLER, SOUTHER, YAGER, GAAR/GARR, PAINTER, HOLT, >FINKS, and others. But no mention is never made about the BROYLES >contribution to relationships of all the rest of the Germanna families. If >you >have a WILHITE/WILHOIT/etc. ancestor, chances are pretty dang good >that you also have a BROYLES ancestor. > >I guess what I'm getting at is that WILHITE/WILHOIT gets top billing but we >so very rarely see the BROYLES family referred to as "Second Colony glue". >Why? > >Sarge My Germanna Database at Rootsweb: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=germanna My Germanna Website at Rootsweb: http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/index.html

Begin forwarded message: > From: Nancy Hinchy <[email protected]> > Date: June 29, 2010 10:07:21 AM EDT > To: GERMANNa COLONIES <[email protected]> > Subject: Charles H. Wilhite > > Here is what I have on Charles, it was mostly given to me by a lovely lady named Mary Marcin who has this on her Ancestry web site. He was born 1844-09-24 in Morgan Cty, Il. Died 1933 07-28 in Paris, MO He married Mary Combs who was related to the Garr/Gaar-Crigler family of Germanna. They had 10 children, 9 of whom survived to adulthood. Flora Eva, my grandmother, born 1882-04-28 in Cass Cty Il died 1958 Beardstown, Il. Nancy Elizabeth born 1870-01-04, Rozella born 1878-0006-08, James Roy born 1885, Samuel, Addie Milli born 1868, William Samuel born 1872, Charles Clarence born 1880, Lillie Frances born 1874, Margaret Ann born 1876. > Having come lately to the Germanna Colonies web site I am still in the process of finding ancestors. Hope this helps Sarge, if you want anything else let me know. > Nancy