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    1. Re: [GERMANNA] States of Germanna
    2. Cathy Gottsch
    3. Take Texas off the list too. I have an aunt and several cousins who live there.  Cathy G. ________________________________ On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Virginia Nuta <[email protected]> wrote: > > Okay, we now have heard from Germanna descendants PRESENTLY living in all > states except: > > 1. Alabama > 2. Alaska > 3. Connecticut > 4. Delaware > 5. Georgia > 6. Hawaii > 7. Idaho > 8. Iowa > 9. Massachusetts > 10. Michigan > 11. Minnesota > 12. New Hampshire > 13. New Mexico > 14. North Dakota > 15. Rhode Island > 16. South Dakota > 17. Texas > 18. Vermont > 19. Wisconsin > > (I took TN off the "absent" list because I know Sgt. George lives there, > even though he hasn't responded!)  Anyone else? > > Virginia Nuta > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- "A busily sniffing dog reading its scent version of the morning newspaper." Dawn Ackerman http://bethnewport.redbubble.com/ If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/23/2010 02:00:43
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna'speoplelived under?
    2. Sherry Nay
    3. Wyoming for me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Wheat" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna'speoplelived under? when I last checked, we had Germanna Foundation members in 47 states, Canada, Australia, and Germany --- On Thu, 7/22/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna's > peoplelived under? > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 4:06 PM > > and how many states and countries are represented TODAY > from Germanna -- I can claim Mississippi. Take care. > Marilyn > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marc Wheat <[email protected]> > To: germanna_colonies <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 12:58 pm > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have > Germanna's peoplelived under? > > > Cary - thanks - I was unaware of northwest Georgia > seceding. And very good > point about Western States under the Spanish or Mexican > governments. > > We have Rector descendants born and raised in Australia, > and we had two > attendees of the reunion from Sakatoon, Saskatchewan. > > > On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:56 AM, "Cary Anderson" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Marc, > > You did not ask "How many other governments and > constitutions..." so yes you > are missing The United States of America. Then of > course Virginia or some > other states considered themselves sovereign identities at > one time or > another. While in Texas before their War of > Independence, those living > there were under the governance of the Republic of Mexico > and the same for > those in what is now California, Utah, Nevada, Arizonian, > New Mexico, parts > of Colorado, Oklahoma, and Kansas. > > Then there is the Indian Nation that was "independent" of > the USA. Some got > to Hawaii prior to the take over there; others there. > Some got out into > French held lands probably. > > Then, perhaps the northwest part of Georgia that seceded > from Georgia in the > Civil War and formed their own govt. might be considered. > > They should be very much at home as things were shifting as > far as govt. is > concerned, just like back at home. > > I'm sure others will be speaking up on others that I've > forgotten. I never > tried to make a list of these before; nor, do I have very > good knowledge of > just where all Germanna people had scattered, but that did > happen rather > quickly for quite a few. > > I sure there are several others I am missing. > > Glad you brought up a "new" subject. > > Cary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Wheat" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:00 AM > Subject: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have > Germanna's > peoplelived under? > > > > On September 18, the Germanna Foundation will be holding an > event to > celebrate the U.S. Constitution with assistance from the > Center for the > Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier. > > See our calendar entry at http://www.germanna.org/node/387 > > I would like to relate to the attendees how many > governments and > constitutions Germanna people have lived under since > emigrating from > German-speaking lands: British Empire, Articles of > Confederation, West > Florida Republic, Republic of Texas, the California > Republic, the > Confederates States of America. > > Am I missing any? > > Can anyone name for me the Germanna descendants who lived > in the West > Florida Republic (I have the three Kemper brothers), > Republic of Texas, or > the California Republic? > > > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to > your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to > your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of > the message > > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to > your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of > the message > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to > your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/23/2010 01:59:39
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] States of Germanna
    2. Beth Perry Johnston
    3. I forgot about my daughter and her family in Massachusetts and my son and his family in Illinois. The former should add another state to the list. <s> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Virginia Nuta <[email protected]> wrote: > > Okay, we now have heard from Germanna descendants PRESENTLY living in all > states except: > > 1. Alabama > 2. Alaska > 3. Connecticut > 4. Delaware > 5. Georgia > 6. Hawaii > 7. Idaho > 8. Iowa > 9. Massachusetts > 10. Michigan > 11. Minnesota > 12. New Hampshire > 13. New Mexico > 14. North Dakota > 15. Rhode Island > 16. South Dakota > 17. Texas > 18. Vermont > 19. Wisconsin > > (I took TN off the "absent" list because I know Sgt. George lives there, > even though he hasn't responded!)  Anyone else? > > Virginia Nuta > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- "A busily sniffing dog reading its scent version of the morning newspaper." Dawn Ackerman http://bethnewport.redbubble.com/

    07/23/2010 01:55:56
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] States of Germanna
    2. Patty Sims
    3. Yup Virginia,   Mine came out of Alabama, Georgia, Texas and on to California. Cousins live in Oregon and Washington.   Patty --- On Fri, 7/23/10, Virginia Nuta <[email protected]> wrote: From: Virginia Nuta <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] States of Germanna To: [email protected] Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 7:28 AM Okay, we now have heard from Germanna descendants PRESENTLY living in all states except: 1. Alabama 2. Alaska 3. Connecticut 4. Delaware 5. Georgia 6. Hawaii 7. Idaho 8. Iowa 9. Massachusetts 10. Michigan 11. Minnesota 12. New Hampshire 13. New Mexico 14. North Dakota 15. Rhode Island 16. South Dakota 17. Texas 18. Vermont 19. Wisconsin (I took TN off the "absent" list because I know Sgt. George lives there, even though he hasn't responded!)  Anyone else? Virginia Nuta If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/23/2010 01:35:08
    1. [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna's people lived under?
    2. Patty Sims
    3. In the United States my family begins with Leonard Mathais Kreisler and Barbara Von Schellenberg. My family has come through PA>VA>SC>AL>GA>AR>TX>CA> and cousins are in OR and WA as Crisler, Christler, Chrysler. Those suffering the greatest loss included my Crisler/Barr family in GA and AL during the Civil War. Patty Sims Quincy, CA

    07/22/2010 11:26:12
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna's peoplelived under?
    2. Hi Jim, Barlow as in the Barlow Trail part of the Oregon Trail? Cathi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barlow" <[email protected]> To: "germanna colonies" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:09:15 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna's        peoplelived under? Oregon and Maine ... My Barlow line has also had trees in Kentucky,   Indiana, Missouri, Minnesota, Kansas, Arkansas, Texas and Tennessee.   And briefly Iowa shortly before the Civil War. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Marc Wheat <[email protected]> wrote: > > when I last checked, we had Germanna Foundation members in 47   > states, Canada, Australia, and Germany > > > --- On Thu, 7/22/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have   >> Germanna's peoplelived under? >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 4:06 PM >> >> and how many states and countries are represented TODAY >> from Germanna -- I can claim Mississippi. Take care. >> Marilyn >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Marc Wheat <[email protected]> >> To: germanna_colonies <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 12:58 pm >> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have >> Germanna's peoplelived under? >> >> >> Cary - thanks - I was unaware of northwest Georgia >> seceding.  And very good >> point about Western States under the Spanish or Mexican >> governments. >> >> We have Rector descendants born and raised in Australia, >> and we had two >> attendees of the reunion from Sakatoon, Saskatchewan. >> >> >> On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:56 AM, "Cary Anderson" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Marc, >> >> You did not ask "How many other governments and >> constitutions..." so yes you >> are missing The United States of America.  Then of >> course Virginia or some >> other states considered themselves sovereign identities at >> one time or >> another.  While in Texas before their War of >> Independence, those living >> there were under the governance of the Republic of Mexico >> and the same for >> those in what is now California, Utah, Nevada, Arizonian, >> New Mexico, parts >> of Colorado, Oklahoma, and Kansas. >> >> Then there is the Indian Nation that was "independent" of >> the USA.  Some got >> to Hawaii prior to the take over there; others there. >> Some got out into >> French held lands probably. >> >> Then, perhaps the northwest part of Georgia that seceded >> from Georgia in the >> Civil War and formed their own govt. might be considered. >> >> They should be very much at home as things were shifting as >> far as govt. is >> concerned, just like back at home. >> >> I'm sure others will be speaking up on others that I've >> forgotten.  I never >> tried to make a list of these before; nor, do I have very >> good knowledge of >> just where all Germanna people had scattered, but that did >> happen rather >> quickly for quite a few. >> >> I sure there are several others I am missing. >> >> Glad you brought up a "new" subject. >> >> Cary >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marc Wheat" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:00 AM >> Subject: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have >> Germanna's >> peoplelived under? >> >> >> >> On September 18, the Germanna Foundation will be holding an >> event to >> celebrate the U.S. Constitution with assistance from the >> Center for the >> Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier. >> >> See our calendar entry at http://www.germanna.org/node/387 >> >> I would like to relate to the attendees how many >> governments and >> constitutions Germanna people have lived under since >> emigrating from >> German-speaking lands:  British Empire, Articles of >> Confederation, West >> Florida Republic, Republic of Texas, the California >> Republic, the >> Confederates States of America. >> >> Am I missing any? >> >> Can anyone name for me the Germanna descendants who lived >> in the West >> Florida Republic (I have the three Kemper brothers), >> Republic of Texas, or >> the California Republic? >> >> >> >> >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to >> your on-line >> data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to >> your on-line data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of >> the message >> >> >> >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to >> your on-line data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of >> the message >> >> >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to >> your on-line data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on- > line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >  with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and   > the body of the message If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/22/2010 11:13:02
    1. [GERMANNA] St Kitts
    2. Marc Wheat
    3. Who lived in St Kitts? On Jul 22, 2010, at 4:59 PM, [email protected] (HOPE A. CARNICLE) wrote: and how many states and countries are represented TODAY from Germanna Arizona Virginia Colorado Florida Texas South Dakota St Kitts Hope Carnicle Descended from Melchior Brumbach If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/22/2010 10:11:00
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] How many states have Germanna's people lived under?
    2. PJ
    3. I'm in Missouri with family in Kansas. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3022 - Release Date: 07/22/10 13:36:00

    07/22/2010 05:45:52
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna's peoplelived under?
    2. Jim Barlow
    3. No, the Oregon Trail's Barlow family was not connected with Germanna. But that Barlow, Samuel, who opened up the Barlow Pass, was convicted and then pardoned in the first murder case in Hendricks County, Indiana, where I grew up. After his pardon he headed West. The Barlow Pass trail remains today a wonderful hike. I did part of it last fall. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:13 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > Hi Jim, > > > > Barlow as in the Barlow Trail part of the Oregon Trail? > > > > Cathi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Barlow" <[email protected]> > To: "germanna colonies" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:09:15 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have > Germanna's peoplelived under? > > Oregon and Maine ... My Barlow line has also had trees in Kentucky, > Indiana, Missouri, Minnesota, Kansas, Arkansas, Texas and Tennessee. > And briefly Iowa shortly before the Civil War. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Marc Wheat <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> when I last checked, we had Germanna Foundation members in 47 >> states, Canada, Australia, and Germany >> >> >> --- On Thu, 7/22/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have >>> Germanna's peoplelived under? >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 4:06 PM >>> >>> and how many states and countries are represented TODAY >>> from Germanna -- I can claim Mississippi. Take care. >>> Marilyn >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Marc Wheat <[email protected]> >>> To: germanna_colonies <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 12:58 pm >>> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have >>> Germanna's peoplelived under? >>> >>> >>> Cary - thanks - I was unaware of northwest Georgia >>> seceding. And very good >>> point about Western States under the Spanish or Mexican >>> governments. >>> >>> We have Rector descendants born and raised in Australia, >>> and we had two >>> attendees of the reunion from Sakatoon, Saskatchewan. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:56 AM, "Cary Anderson" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Marc, >>> >>> You did not ask "How many other governments and >>> constitutions..." so yes you >>> are missing The United States of America. Then of >>> course Virginia or some >>> other states considered themselves sovereign identities at >>> one time or >>> another. While in Texas before their War of >>> Independence, those living >>> there were under the gover

    07/22/2010 04:37:33
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna's peoplelived under?
    2. Jim Barlow
    3. Oregon and Maine ... My Barlow line has also had trees in Kentucky, Indiana, Missouri, Minnesota, Kansas, Arkansas, Texas and Tennessee. And briefly Iowa shortly before the Civil War. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Marc Wheat <[email protected]> wrote: > > when I last checked, we had Germanna Foundation members in 47 > states, Canada, Australia, and Germany > > > --- On Thu, 7/22/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have >> Germanna's peoplelived under? >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 4:06 PM >> >> and how many states and countries are represented TODAY >> from Germanna -- I can claim Mississippi. Take care. >> Marilyn >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Marc Wheat <[email protected]> >> To: germanna_colonies <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 12:58 pm >> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have >> Germanna's peoplelived under? >> >> >> Cary - thanks - I was unaware of northwest Georgia >> seceding. And very good >> point about Western States under the Spanish or Mexican >> governments. >> >> We have Rector descendants born and raised in Australia, >> and we had two >> attendees of the reunion from Sakatoon, Saskatchewan. >> >> >> On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:56 AM, "Cary Anderson" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Marc, >> >> You did not ask "How many other governments and >> constitutions..." so yes you >> are missing The United States of America. Then of >> course Virginia or some >> other states considered themselves sovereign identities at >> one time or >> another. While in Texas before their War of >> Independence, those living >> there were under the governance of the Republic of Mexico >> and the same for >> those in what is now California, Utah, Nevada, Arizonian, >> New Mexico, parts >> of Colorado, Oklahoma, and Kansas. >> >> Then there is the Indian Nation that was "independent" of >> the USA. Some got >> to Hawaii prior to the take over there; others there. >> Some got out into >> French held lands probably. >> >> Then, perhaps the northwest part of Georgia that seceded >> from Georgia in the >> Civil War and formed their own govt. might be considered. >> >> They should be very much at home as things were shifting as >> far as govt. is >> concerned, just like back at home. >> >> I'm sure others will be speaking up on others that I've >> forgotten. I never >> tried to make a list of these before; nor, do I have very >> good knowledge of >> just where all Germanna people had scattered, but that did >> happen rather >> quickly for quite a few. >> >> I sure there are several others I am missing. >> >> Glad you brought up a "new" subject. >> >> Cary >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marc Wheat" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:00 AM >> Subject: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have >> Germanna's >> peoplelived under? >> >> >> >> On September 18, the Germanna Foundation will be holding an >> event to >> celebrate the U.S. Constitution with assistance from the >> Center for the >> Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier. >> >> See our calendar entry at http://www.germanna.org/node/387 >> >> I would like to relate to the attendees how many >> governments and >> constitutions Germanna people have lived under since >> emigrating from >> German-speaking lands: British Empire, Articles of >> Confederation, West >> Florida Republic, Republic of Texas, the California >> Republic, the >> Confederates States of America. >> >> Am I missing any? >> >> Can anyone name for me the Germanna descendants who lived >> in the West >> Florida Republic (I have the three Kemper brothers), >> Republic of Texas, or >> the California Republic? >> >> >> >> >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to >> your on-line >> data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to >> your on-line data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of >> the message >> >> >> >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to >> your on-line data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of >> the message >> >> >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to >> your on-line data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on- > line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    07/22/2010 04:09:15
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] States of Germanna
    2. Virginia Nuta
    3. Okay--where are folks from KENTUCKY and TENNESSEE and ALABAMA--is it that you are not home yet from the Reunion? And, um, TEXAS? And no New Englanders at all?

    07/22/2010 02:32:47
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] States of Germanna
    2. Illinois here. In a message dated 7/22/2010 7:59:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: That's 20 states (and Puerto Rico). Come on, where are the rest of you? If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/22/2010 02:23:32
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] States of Germanna
    2. Tom Carpenter
    3. Unfortunately I still haven't found the smoking gun, but - Kentucky here. Tom --- On Thu, 7/22/10, Virginia Nuta <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Virginia Nuta <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] States of Germanna > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 8:32 PM > Okay--where are folks from KENTUCKY > and TENNESSEE and ALABAMA--is it that > you are not home yet from the Reunion?  And, um, > TEXAS? > > And no New Englanders at all? > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to > your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

    07/22/2010 02:08:12
    1. [GERMANNA] States of Germanna
    2. Virginia Nuta
    3. That's 20 states (and Puerto Rico). Come on, where are the rest of you?

    07/22/2010 01:58:36
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] Too many HENRY MILLERS
    2. pndodge
    3. HENRY MILLER descendants, I need your help ! My problem is sorting out the various Culpeper/Madison and Culpeper/ Rappannock County HENRY MILLERS and finding sources for the Miller information I do have. HENRY MILLER #1 Culpeper/Madison Co. My interest is in the Culpeper/ Madison Co.HENRY MILLER with wife SUSANNA SIBLER who came from Pa. to the Robinson River area in Va. sometime before Jan 1772, when some of his children were baptized in the German Lutheran Church ( Hebron). His will was written in 1796. He died in 1801 and his Estate was settled in 1807 ( Mad.Co.W.B.#1 pp.271,272.281-3,290-5,) The baptismal sponsors for five of their eleven children were from the MAJER/MAYER/MOYER and VOLCK families. Sponsor: George UTZ'S mother was a MAJER/MAYER and his wife, Margaret Weber's mother was a MAJER/VOLCK Sponsor: Elizabeth (BLANKENBAKER) Wayland's mother was either a MAJER/MAYER or a VOLCK. Sponsor: Christina ( FINK) Blankenbaker's mother was most likely Anna Christina VOLCK At least one and maybe two of the children who were baptized in Pa., had a MOYER sponsor, Was it Henry Miller or Susanna Sibler who was related to the Majer/Mayers or Volcks? I believe it was Susanna Sibler but I have no proof. Not only were the MAJER/MAYER/MOYER and VOLCK baptismal sponsors, they also sold Henry Miller land. 7 Sept 1776 John Hanback and Mary ( dau. of Sabina VOLCK and John Huffman) sold HENRY MILLER 20 acres of land. Witt: Ambrose Bohannan, John Back, Henry Back March 1781 John Hanback and Mary sold HENRY MILLER 50 acres on Little River.... to Robinson River... to corner of Henry Miller's own land... ( part of this land was given to Mary from her father, John Huffman) Witt; James Barbour, John Weaver, John Miller The 1787- Culpeper Co. Va. Goodrich Lightfoot Land Tax list shows HENRY MILLER with 78 acres of land. The 1788- Culpeper Co. Va. John Hume Land Tax list shows HENRY MILLER with 78 acres of land, 21 Apr 1788 HENRY MILLER along with James Barbour and William Eastham wittnessed the Will of John Christian Lipp 1790 - HENRY MILLER, Andreas Gaar and John Weaver Sr.made an inventory of the estate of Michael Utz. Will of HENRY MILLER of Madison Co, ( 21 Nov 1796 Madison Co. Will Book 1) HENRY MILLER Sr. to his wife, Susanna, fifty one pounds, thirteen shillings and household furnishings and other property.....son Adam to have the plantation ....the balance of his estate to be sold and equally divided among his daughters and his wife... his clothes and silver plate to be divided among his four sons. Sons Henry and John Miller to be executors... Witt Ezeliel Haines, Richard Jackson. 26 Jan 1797 Henry Back and wife Elizabeth ( dau. of Sabina VOLCK and John Huffman) sold HENRY MILLER 17 acres of land 25 June 1801 HENRY MILLER'S will was proved in court by his sons, Henry Miller and John Miller. 25 June 1801 Bond , John Miller, Henry Miller, Lewis Crigler, and Richard Tutt...bound three thousand dollars ,,,John and Henry Miller to make a true and perfect inventory... 27 June 1801 Appraisal of Estate of HENRY MILLER Sr. by John Miller, Adam Wayland , Joshua Wayland and Jonas Blankenbaker.. 20 July 180 Sale of Personal Estate of HENRY MILLER Sr. ... total amt. 107 pounds, 5 shilling and 10 pence 5 Dec 1801 Sale of the Leather. Value 6 pounds 11 shillings 26 Nov 1807 Settlement of Estate of HENRY MILLER SR.. Paid Dr John Clark, Dr Booker, Dr James Jackson ... amount also shows eleven uncollected accounts...Paid Molly Haynes, widow of Issac Haynes, Jesse Baxter, Jesse Berry, Elizabeth Miller, Burgess Rogers, and Susanna Miller, the widow of Henry Miller dec'd Amount 529 pounds, 12 shillings and 8 3/4 pence.....Settled by Robert Thomas, Paschal Early and Wm, Jones. Children of HENRY and SUSANNA ( Sibler) MILLER: ( From "Hebron" Baptismal Register p.4- John Blankenbaker 2003 and the above Estate settlement)) 1. Maria Miller b.1756 married Issac Haynes- (Source: Henry Miller's Estate Settlement) 2. Sara Miller b 1757 3. Henry Miller Jr. b.1759 ( Born in Philadelphia, Pa. married Achsah Warner in Frederick Co. Va.on 14 May 1782, died in Culpeper Co. Va. on 7 Jan 1833.(.From a Family Group sheet of Henry Miller Family. No sources given.) I question the Frederick Co. marriage. What proof is there that this Henry Jr. was the son of Henry and Susanna Sibler? 4. John Miller b.1762 (Married Nancy HITT dau of Peter HITT and Sarah James.in Fauquier Co. Va. Died 1 Aug.1841 in Rappahannock Co. Va. :( From Henry Miller Family Group Sheet. No source given ) I do not believe the John Miller who married Nancy HITT was the John Miller b.1762, son of Henry and Susanna Miller. Most likely Henry and Susanna Miller's son John b.1762. was the John Miller who married Susanna, daughter of George UTZ and Margaret WEAVER.,John and Susanna ( UTZ) Miller's neighbors in 1795 were Adam UTZ, Absolum UTZ ( his brother-in-law), Issac HAYNES, ( his brother-in-law) Henry Terrel and Adam Yager and his wife, Juriah Berry. In 1798, John and Susanna (UTZ) Miller sold 94 acres of land to Adam UTZ and may have moved in the early 1800's to the Naked Creek area of Rockingham Co. Va. 5 Susannah Miller b. 1763 6. Twins, George & Margaret Miller 8. Elizabeth Miller b. 1768 Unmarried in 1807 ( Source: Her father's estate settlement.) 9. Adam Miller b. 1769 married Mary Wilhoit daughter of John & Elizabeth Blankenbaker 10. Sophia Miller b. 1771 married Burgess Rodgers 15 Oct 1792. Min Isham Tatum ( Source her father's Estate Settlement and "Marriages of Culpeper County Virginia 1781-1815 "- Knorr 1954 ) 11.Anna Miller b. 1772 married Jesse Barry 15 July 1790 Min. Wm. Carpenter ( Source- her father's Estate Settlement &"Marriages of Culpeper County Virginia 1781-1815" - Knorr 1954 ) HENRY MILLER #2 Culpeper/ Rappannock Co. 25 Aug.1780 Culpeper Co. Va. Philip Gatewood and wife , Susanna....for 7000 pounds...sold HENRY MILLER two tracts of land...one an estimated 732 acres...land on the North side of the Rush River...the second tract containing an estimated 804 acres located near the Peaked Mts Witt:John Ehart Oelschlegel, John Hastie, W.Jacoby and James Jett 1782 Culpeper Land Tax list. HENRY MILLER is taxed for 1400 acres In 1784 HENRY MILLER gave his son John 366 acres of land on North east side of the Rush River. In 1785 HENRY MILLER and wife ( not named) give their son Henry Jr. 580 acres of land located at the Fotherstack Mt.... adj.to corner of George Miller ....to north side of Peaked Mt. Alterations made in Land assignments in Culpeper Co. Va.in 1785 HENRY MILLER Jr.. 580 acres JOHN MILLER 366 acres HENRY MILLER Sr.. for the balance of his land 454 acres 1788 Culpeper Land Tax list of Dan Brown HENRY MILLER Sr, taxed for 454 acres HENRY MILLER Jr 580 acres JOHN MILLER 366 acres . Note: 1788 John Hume ( Robinson River area) Tax list .Culpeper/Madison .HENRY MILLER #1 is listed with 78 acres. Culpeper/ Rappahannock HENRY MILLERS- Will of a HENRY MILLER , Culpeper Co.-written in 1783 Will,of a HENRY MILLER Sr. Culpeper Co.-W.B M p,462 ( date missing ) Estate accounting of a HENRY MILLER Sr. in 1834 Cul Co. W.B.N p.192 Estate accounting of a HENRY MILLER in 1836 Cul.Co. W.B.N p.462 Rappahannock Co. Inventory of a HENRY MILLER Sr.in 1839 W.B.A. p.314 What if any is the relationship between Henry Miller #1 and Henry Miller #2 ? Are they the same person as some claim? I believe that Henry #1 & Henry #2 were different men. Both had sons named Henry and John. They were probably related in some way.and have been unintentionally mixed up. All help is appreciated. Nancy Moyers Dodge

    07/22/2010 01:55:27
    1. [GERMANNA] Germanna Foundation in almost every state
    2. Marc Wheat
    3. http://www.germanna.org/germana_message_board#comment-217 is a comment I posted some time ago on the Germanna website. Back then, we had three states with no Germanna members, but several with only a few. Does anyone know descendants in these unrepresented or under-represented states who would enjoy a gift membership from you? We're going to be competing for some grants this year on behalf of our members, and it is much stronger to say we have members in 50 states than just 47!

    07/22/2010 01:39:02
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna's peoplelived under?
    2. J Palermo
    3. I forgot to mention Kansas and Nebraska. On Jul 22, 2010, at 4:36 PM, J Palermo wrote: > Missouri, California, South Carolina, Nevada > > On Jul 22, 2010, at 3:06 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> >> and how many states and countries are represented TODAY from >> Germanna -- I can claim Mississippi. Take care. Marilyn >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Marc Wheat <[email protected]> >> To: germanna_colonies <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 12:58 pm >> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have >> Germanna's peoplelived under? >> >> >> Cary - thanks - I was unaware of northwest Georgia seceding. And >> very good >> point about Western States under the Spanish or Mexican governments. >> >> We have Rector descendants born and raised in Australia, and we had >> two >> attendees of the reunion from Sakatoon, Saskatchewan. >> >> On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:56 AM, "Cary Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Marc, >> >> You did not ask "How many other governments and constitutions..." so >> yes you >> are missing The United States of America. Then of course Virginia >> or some >> other states considered themselves sovereign identities at one time >> or >> another. While in Texas before their War of Independence, those >> living >> there were under the governance of the Republic of Mexico and the >> same for >> those in what is now California, Utah, Nevada, Arizonian, New >> Mexico, parts >> of Colorado, Oklahoma, and Kansas. >> >> Then there is the Indian Nation that was "independent" of the USA. >> Some got >> to Hawaii prior to the take over there; others there. Some got out >> into >> French held lands probably. >> >> Then, perhaps the northwest part of Georgia that seceded from >> Georgia in the >> Civil War and formed their own govt. might be considered. >> >> They should be very much at home as things were shifting as far as >> govt. is >> concerned, just like back at home. >> >> I'm sure others will be speaking up on others that I've forgotten. >> I never >> tried to make a list of these before; nor, do I have very good >> knowledge of >> just where all Germanna people had scattered, but that did happen >> rather >> quickly for quite a few. >> >> I sure there are several others I am missing. >> >> Glad you brought up a "new" subject. >> >> Cary >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marc Wheat" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:00 AM >> Subject: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna's >> peoplelived under? >> >> >> >> On September 18, the Germanna Foundation will be holding an event to >> celebrate the U.S. Constitution with assistance from the Center for >> the >> Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier. >> >> See our calendar entry at http://www.germanna.org/node/387 >> >> I would like to relate to the attendees how many governments and >> constitutions Germanna people have lived under since emigrating from >> German-speaking lands: British Empire, Articles of Confederation, >> West >> Florida Republic, Republic of Texas, the California Republic, the >> Confederates States of America. >> >> Am I missing any? >> >> Can anyone name for me the Germanna descendants who lived in the West >> Florida Republic (I have the three Kemper brothers), Republic of >> Texas, or >> the California Republic? >> >> >> >> >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line >> data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on- >> line data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of >> the message >> >> >> >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on- >> line data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of >> the message >> >> >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on- >> line data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on- > line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    07/22/2010 01:25:32
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] Fw: How many sovereign governmentshaveGermanna'speoplelived under?
    2. Kathleen B. Simons
    3. Virginia, Maryland, California, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Washington (off the top of my head) On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Janice Murnan <[email protected]> wrote: > Indiana - Florida > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra Cowan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:23 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign > governmentshaveGermanna'speoplelived under? > > > > West Virginia, Maryland and Montana > > > > David Garr Cowan > > > > Sandy > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > > data. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kathleen Bowen Simons Falls Church, Virginia Imagine keeping it simple: Worship, Community & Service at Image Church ( http://www.imagechurch.com; listen to Pastor Chris Rhodenhizer's thought-provoking messages by clicking on the Audio link!) Listen to a beautiful song, "Feel the Ocean Calling," by Roderick C. Simons: http://www.myspace.com/roderickcsimons

    07/22/2010 01:14:05
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna's peoplelived under?
    2. Marc Wheat
    3. when I last checked, we had Germanna Foundation members in 47 states, Canada, Australia, and Germany --- On Thu, 7/22/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna's peoplelived under? > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 4:06 PM > > and how many states and countries are represented TODAY > from Germanna -- I can claim Mississippi. Take care. > Marilyn > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marc Wheat <[email protected]> > To: germanna_colonies <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 12:58 pm > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have > Germanna's peoplelived under? > > > Cary - thanks - I was unaware of northwest Georgia > seceding.  And very good > point about Western States under the Spanish or Mexican > governments. > > We have Rector descendants born and raised in Australia, > and we had two > attendees of the reunion from Sakatoon, Saskatchewan.  > > > On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:56 AM, "Cary Anderson" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Marc, > > You did not ask "How many other governments and > constitutions..." so yes you > are missing The United States of America.  Then of > course Virginia or some > other states considered themselves sovereign identities at > one time or > another.  While in Texas before their War of > Independence, those living > there were under the governance of the Republic of Mexico > and the same for > those in what is now California, Utah, Nevada, Arizonian, > New Mexico, parts > of Colorado, Oklahoma, and Kansas. > > Then there is the Indian Nation that was "independent" of > the USA.  Some got > to Hawaii prior to the take over there; others there.  > Some got out into > French held lands probably. > > Then, perhaps the northwest part of Georgia that seceded > from Georgia in the > Civil War and formed their own govt. might be considered. > > They should be very much at home as things were shifting as > far as govt. is > concerned, just like back at home. > > I'm sure others will be speaking up on others that I've > forgotten.  I never > tried to make a list of these before; nor, do I have very > good knowledge of > just where all Germanna people had scattered, but that did > happen rather > quickly for quite a few. > > I sure there are several others I am missing. > > Glad you brought up a "new" subject. > > Cary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Wheat" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:00 AM > Subject: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have > Germanna's > peoplelived under? > > > > On September 18, the Germanna Foundation will be holding an > event to > celebrate the U.S. Constitution with assistance from the > Center for the > Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier. > > See our calendar entry at http://www.germanna.org/node/387 > > I would like to relate to the attendees how many > governments and > constitutions Germanna people have lived under since > emigrating from > German-speaking lands:  British Empire, Articles of > Confederation, West > Florida Republic, Republic of Texas, the California > Republic, the > Confederates States of America. > > Am I missing any? > > Can anyone name for me the Germanna descendants who lived > in the West > Florida Republic (I have the three Kemper brothers), > Republic of Texas, or > the California Republic? > > > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to > your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to > your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of > the message > > > >       > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to > your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of > the message > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to > your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

    07/22/2010 01:11:25
    1. Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna's peoplelived under?
    2. Cary Anderson
    3. I don't think I saw Arkansas. Four governors, one a Fishback, another a Rector and two Conways, whose mother was Rector. Fishback was a cousin about 3 times removed or so. Cary ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna's peoplelived under? > > and how many states and countries are represented TODAY from Germanna -- I can claim Mississippi. Take care. Marilyn > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marc Wheat <[email protected]> > To: germanna_colonies <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 12:58 pm > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna's peoplelived under? > > > Cary - thanks - I was unaware of northwest Georgia seceding. And very good > point about Western States under the Spanish or Mexican governments. > > We have Rector descendants born and raised in Australia, and we had two > attendees of the reunion from Sakatoon, Saskatchewan. > > On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:56 AM, "Cary Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Marc, > > You did not ask "How many other governments and constitutions..." so yes you > are missing The United States of America. Then of course Virginia or some > other states considered themselves sovereign identities at one time or > another. While in Texas before their War of Independence, those living > there were under the governance of the Republic of Mexico and the same for > those in what is now California, Utah, Nevada, Arizonian, New Mexico, parts > of Colorado, Oklahoma, and Kansas. > > Then there is the Indian Nation that was "independent" of the USA. Some got > to Hawaii prior to the take over there; others there. Some got out into > French held lands probably. > > Then, perhaps the northwest part of Georgia that seceded from Georgia in the > Civil War and formed their own govt. might be considered. > > They should be very much at home as things were shifting as far as govt. is > concerned, just like back at home. > > I'm sure others will be speaking up on others that I've forgotten. I never > tried to make a list of these before; nor, do I have very good knowledge of > just where all Germanna people had scattered, but that did happen rather > quickly for quite a few. > > I sure there are several others I am missing. > > Glad you brought up a "new" subject. > > Cary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marc Wheat" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:00 AM > Subject: [GERMANNA] How many sovereign governments have Germanna's > peoplelived under? > > > > On September 18, the Germanna Foundation will be holding an event to > celebrate the U.S. Constitution with assistance from the Center for the > Constitution at James Madison's Montpelier. > > See our calendar entry at http://www.germanna.org/node/387 > > I would like to relate to the attendees how many governments and > constitutions Germanna people have lived under since emigrating from > German-speaking lands: British Empire, Articles of Confederation, West > Florida Republic, Republic of Texas, the California Republic, the > Confederates States of America. > > Am I missing any? > > Can anyone name for me the Germanna descendants who lived in the West > Florida Republic (I have the three Kemper brothers), Republic of Texas, or > the California Republic? > > > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/22/2010 12:46:09