Rick, we'll have to relay some of the Germanna points of contact we have in those areas, and request that you find other historically-minded people in these towns the Germanna Foundation can work with. The Heimatvereine in these areas are much weaker (or don't exist) than on the Siegerland. On Sep 19, 2010, at 9:02 PM, "Virginia Nuta" <[email protected]> wrote: Rick-- If I were going to spend some serious time in Germany, here is what I would be doing: 1) Pin down Nicholas' father's village. The father of our immigrant ancestor Nicholas was identified as Paul Yager of Meiyerspach in Hesse in the record of Nicholas' marriage to Anna Maria Sieber. Meiyerspach is thought to be a corruption of Weichersbach, a village in Hessen in the Mottgers parish. We have information on Yagers in that village and surrounding villages but nothing conclusive on the birth of a Nicholas that fits our Nicholas. (Not that it is a given that Nicholas is required to have been born there, he could have been born elsewhere and then his family moved.) It has been suggested by another visitor to Germany that there is a Meiyersbach, in Hessen, that could be the the father's village, rather than Weichersbach. If so, it would be a small place because I have not been able to find it. I still want to rule it out. No doubt in Germany there is someone who would know one way or another and I think it would be an important step for us. 2) Investigate the godparents of Nicholas' and Anna Maria's children. ADAM: Adam's godfather was Johann Adam Yager, a soldier of Wolfstein, and godmother Barbara, daughter of Claus Yager of Munchweiler. Munchweiler, I believe, is SW of Falkenstein. There was a Wolfstein area in Bavaria but also a village in the SW of the Palatinate. MARIA GERTRAUD: Nicolaus Jaager and Gertraud, his wife, of Munchweiler, were godparents for Nicholas' daughter, Maria Gertraud Yager in 1711. Rev. Dan Franklin, who obtained this information, thought that it is this couple who had the daughter Barbara born in 1690 in Weichersbach or Meiyersbach. ANNA MARIA: "On the 22nd of May, (1707), Nicolaus Jaeger of Falckenstein and his wife, Anna Maria, had a small daughter baptized. The daughter was born on the 19th of May at 8:00 am, and her godparents (witnesses) were Michael Jaeger of Meyersspach (Meiersspach or Weiersspach) of Hessen and his wife Anna Maria, the daughter of Johannes Wachmanns of Falkenstein and his wife Barbara, the legitimate daughter of Valentin Mayers of Muenchweiler." ANNA MARGRETHA: 1716: In April, on Easter Tuesday, a baby daughter was born to Niclas Jeger of Falckenstein and she was later baptized at the Dom Quasimod. The Godparents were Johann Theobaldt Coestner of Falckenstein and Anna Margretha, the wife of Michel Jeger of the old Glasshutte. The child was named Anna Margetha. ANNA MARIA: The godparents of the daughter Anna Maria were local from the Falkenstein area and were not Yagers. Clearly there is a Munchweiler connection as well as a Meiyersbach or Weichersbach connection. I think we have been hampered by the assumption that all our ancestors stayed in place for generations. John Blankenbaker's work shows us that this is not true. Further, when you think about the Wars of Louis IV that played out over these areas during the time our immigrant ancestors were growing up, it is more astonishing when they DID stay in place, because there were a lot of unpleasant things going on. I may be going out on a very weak limb here, but in finding out what I could about the local rulers of the Mottgers/Weichersbach/Oberzell area of Hessen, I saw that in the 17th century they were a branch of the Counts of Hanau who also controlled some lands in the SW of the Palatinate. I started to wonder if our Yagers could have been employed by this family and moving around to their different areas of influence. Also, we have assumed that because Nicholas' father was said to be of Hessen, that meant that Nicholas also was born in Hessen. But it could be possible that Nicholas' family had been in the Palatinate for some time, and it was his father who, for whatever reason, settled in Hessen. Anyway, if I could have a delightful year of research in the Old Country, I would be looking around in Munchweiler for the trail, and I would also be looking for a "Glasshutte" in those areas. Virginia Nuta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Yeager" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 5:29 PM Subject: [GERMANNA] Extended Stay in Germany I'll be spending about 1 year in Germany. I'm looking for advice on towns, churches, people, etc. to visit to pick up details on the 2nd Colony Nicholas Yager family heritage in Germany. I will be living southwest of Dusseldorf. Any advice would be welcomed. Thanks in advance. If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5462 (20100919) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I'll be spending about 1 year in Germany. I'm looking for advice on towns, churches, people, etc. to visit to pick up details on the 2nd Colony Nicholas Yager family heritage in Germany. I will be living southwest of Dusseldorf. Any advice would be welcomed. Thanks in advance.
Virginia~ Yes, my immigrant family was Hammler-- only after their arrival in the U.S. it became with one less "m"-- Hamler. For a further explanation I will be posting about the circumstances of their arrival and usual circumstances that might have kept them in New Jersey (rather then going down to Virginia or Pennsylvania) as soon as I can. They maintained their connection the New York City Lutheran Church and with the church in Gemmingen, as there are letters between the pastor at the Lutheran Church in New York City and a church leader in Gemmingen regarding Nicholas Hammler/Hamler in America, my ancestor. The New York City pastor told Nicholas Hamler that he could baptize his child at home (presumably as head of the house) in New Jersey rather than make the trip to the church in New York City; unfortunately this humiliated my ancestor (who didn't want to show his face in public for awhile) whereupon letters were exchanged between the Lutheran pastor in New York City and the home church in Germany. The child was baptized "properly" and all was well. Thanks for posting! Kathleen Hamler Purchase [email protected] In a message dated 9/19/2010 8:02:24 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Kathleen, Was the name of your immigrant "Hamler?" The Germanna Colonies that are the subject of this list are the two colonies brought to Virginia by the Lt. Gov. Spotswood in 1714 and 1717, and some other families that joined them shortly thereafter in Virginia, so those settling in other places would not be included. But we would be interested nevertheless in your ancestor because our 2nd Colony Weaver and Clore families also came from Gemmingen, which is not a big place, in the same year, 1717. Virginia Nuta ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 5:29 PM Subject: [GERMANNA] Question about Early Germans in U.S. NOT from the South > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: k_purchase > Surnames: Hamler/Homler/Hambler/Hombler/Homlar/Hammelor > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.germannacolonies/604/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I am confused about the "Germanna Colonies." My ancestry is from > Gemmingen, Germany, coming in 1717, to New York, when within the year they > moved to Somerset Co., New Jersey. My father, Grandfather and > G-Grandfather were all born in New Jersey. I am confused as to whether I > belong in Rootsweb's "Germanna Colonies" since I saw a description of the > website as being rooted in Virginia- ? Our religious background is > Lutheran. > > Thanks for any help. > > Kathleen HAMLER Purchase > [email protected] > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 5459 (20100918) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: frost_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.germannacolonies/604.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Kathleen, This morning I looked up the Gemmingen "Departure List" on pages 24-25 of the Gemmigen Death Register. Your Nicholas Hammler and his family are listed along with those families that left Gemmingen on 12 July 1717 and ended up at Germanna however it notes the Hammler family left three months earlier. Those Germans that ended up as part of the Second (1717) Germanna Colony reported that they had contracted with a ship's captain to be brought to Pennsylvania. During a layover in London he was thrown into prison for debt so the Germans were forced to spend some of their own money for additional provisions. Once he was finally free, the captain sailed the Germans to Virginia instead of the agreed upon destination of Pennsylvania and sold them to Alexander Spotswood as indentured servants claiming they had not paid the full passage. Once their indenture was over, most of this group moved to present Madison Co, VA. Another German family, the Raüser/Racer/Rasor family, lived in Sussex Co, NJ in the 1750s and 1760s before moving to present Madison Co, VA. In VA this family joined the Hebron Lutheran Church in present Madison Co. This church was built by the Second Germanna Colonists, the current building erected in 1740 but there was a log chapel (no longer in existence) prior to that date. I wonder if your Hammler family had any communication with their Gemmingen acquaintances once all were in the Colonies or word through relatives and friends back in Germany. It would be so interesting to know! Thanks for sharing! Cathi PS I'm a Cathleen too. :>) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
>From Kathy Easton, Boone county, Kentucky: Please join us for an impressive ceremony performed by the SAR ~ Sons of the American Revolution To honor Frederick Tanner as a Patriot of the American Revolutionary War at his gravesite on the World of Sports Golf Course property. Frederick Tanner is listed in "The Culpeper Classes" of Virginia during the Revolutionary War. Frederick Tanner and his wife Maria (nee Rouse) migrated to Boone County in 1813 from Culpeper County, Virginia. He was a signer of the 2nd constitution of the Hopeful Lutheran Church and many of their descendants are members of Hopeful Lutheran Church today. He purchased his 160 acres located in Florence KY for $480 on December 8, 1813. Arrangements are now final for a dedication ceremony on Sunday, October 17th at 3:00 pm at the gravesite of Frederick Tanner on his old farm land which is near the 10th hole of the World of Sport Golf Course in Florence KY. The ceremony will be conducted by the descendants and the SAR ~ Sons of the American Revolution ~ with color guard, posting of colors, music (drums, fife, taps on the trumpet). There will be a pastor for invocation & benediction and a rifle squad to provide a gun salute.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: k_purchase Surnames: Hammler/Hamler/Homler/Hambler/Hombler/Homlar Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.germannacolonies/604.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: >>1717 (Second Colony) and became indentured servants of Alexander Spotswood. The First Colony was mostly from Siegen Reformed and the Second Colony from Baden-Württemberg and mostly Lutheran. My Gemmingen families were Klaar (Clore) and Weber (Weaver). Which family went to New York? Were they listed in the Gemmingen Death Register in July 1717 as leaving to go to Pennsylvania as the Klaar and Weber families were? Would like to learn more about your family<< The description that the Gemmingen pastor used in "the death book" was also ascribed to my Hammler/Hamler family who went from Gemmingen directly to New York in 1717 and then quite quickly to Somerset County, New Jersey in 1718. There was no mention of Pennsylvania that I recall though I believe the pastor who wrote the names of the leaving congregants in the "Death Book" made such statements more than one time. They were also part of the Second Migration of German families only their destination was obviously different than your family's migration pattern. I have never been able to find what ship they sailed on to get to the New World. The family, even after moving from New York to New Jersey would return to the Lutheran Church in New York City for baptisms and marriages. The earliest information I have of this Hammler/Hamler Gemmingen family was (Hans) Nicholas Hammler Sr. born in 1677 and married Eva Magdalena Keller in Gemmingen in 13 Sep 1698. Their first child was Nicholas Hammler Jr. b. in Germany in 1700. Hank Z. Jones says this German family -- Hammler--(which means castrator of male sheep) included: 1.) (Hans) Nicholas Hammler b. 1700 2.)Eva Magdalena Hammler, b. 1708 3.) Johannes (Hans) Hammler, b. 1713 4.) Maria Margaretha Hammler, b. 1714 When this Hammler family came from Gemmingen to New York City in 1717 it was regarded as the second German migration from Europe. The mother, Eva Hammler, died within a year after their arrival and the father, Nicholas, remarried and brought his family to Somerset Co., NJ where they mostly stayed, except for movements into Morris Co., NJ, Sussex Co., NJ and Warren Co., NJ (all northern NJ area.). In the 1800s a few of them moved back and forth over the Delaware River to live in Pennsylvania. (The Delaware River, it was said, reminded them of the Rhine River in Germany.) This is Hammler family-- now calling themselves "Hamler"-- is the first indication of any Hammler family that I have found in the New World though I found many later Hamlers , migrating later to Virginia and often Black or Mulatto in race whereas my direct ancestors in New Jersey seem to be White in race though Nicholas Hammler, the father, "bought" a Black man to be a servant to him though he seems to be t! reated as a son and possibly was bought to be released . One of Nicholas Jr's sons was called Benjamin just as Nicholas Sr.'s called his so-called bought servant. Thanks very much. Kathleen [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: frost_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.germannacolonies/604.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: How interesting! Several of the families emigrating from Gemmingen in 1717 did become part of the Germanna Colonies in Virginia. If your family went to New York then they are not members of the Germanna Colonies but must have known some of the Germanna Colonists back in Germany. In a nutshell, the Germanna Colonies were two groups of Germans that arrived in Virginia in 1714 (First Colony) and 1717 (Second Colony) and became indentured servants of Alexander Spotswood. The First Colony was mostly from Siegen Reformed and the Second Colony from Baden-Württemberg and mostly Lutheran. My Gemmingen families were Klaar (Clore) and Weber (Weaver). Which family went to New York? Were they listed in the Gemmingen Death Register in July 1717 as leaving to go to Pennsylvania as the Klaar and Weber families were? Would like to learn more about your family. Thanks, Cathi Clore Frost Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Kathleen, Was the name of your immigrant "Hamler?" The Germanna Colonies that are the subject of this list are the two colonies brought to Virginia by the Lt. Gov. Spotswood in 1714 and 1717, and some other families that joined them shortly thereafter in Virginia, so those settling in other places would not be included. But we would be interested nevertheless in your ancestor because our 2nd Colony Weaver and Clore families also came from Gemmingen, which is not a big place, in the same year, 1717. Virginia Nuta ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 5:29 PM Subject: [GERMANNA] Question about Early Germans in U.S. NOT from the South > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: k_purchase > Surnames: Hamler/Homler/Hambler/Hombler/Homlar/Hammelor > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.germannacolonies/604/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I am confused about the "Germanna Colonies." My ancestry is from > Gemmingen, Germany, coming in 1717, to New York, when within the year they > moved to Somerset Co., New Jersey. My father, Grandfather and > G-Grandfather were all born in New Jersey. I am confused as to whether I > belong in Rootsweb's "Germanna Colonies" since I saw a description of the > website as being rooted in Virginia- ? Our religious background is > Lutheran. > > Thanks for any help. > > Kathleen HAMLER Purchase > [email protected] > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 5459 (20100918) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > >
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: k_purchase Surnames: Hamler/Homler/Hambler/Hombler/Homlar/Hammelor Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.virginia.germannacolonies/604/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am confused about the "Germanna Colonies." My ancestry is from Gemmingen, Germany, coming in 1717, to New York, when within the year they moved to Somerset Co., New Jersey. My father, Grandfather and G-Grandfather were all born in New Jersey. I am confused as to whether I belong in Rootsweb's "Germanna Colonies" since I saw a description of the website as being rooted in Virginia- ? Our religious background is Lutheran. Thanks for any help. Kathleen HAMLER Purchase [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
In case it helps, I think most of the stuff I isent in "Following John." Sorry it's not indexed but there's a chapter on each of the 4 men under "John's Children." ----- Original Message ----- From: Virginia Nuta <[email protected]> To: germanna colonies <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 00:36:34 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Germannans at the Battle of Tippecanoe Fantastic, Betty! Into the file this goes. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Betty Johnson" Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:59 PM To: "germanna colonies" Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Germannans at the Battle of Tippecanoe > Ginnie, > > The brothers Reuben, Abner and Lewis Yager were in the Battle of New > Orleans. They enlisted at Fayetteville in Lincoln County, TN on 13 Nov > 1814. Reuben was a private in the Infantry under Col. William Metcalf and > Captain William Sitton. Abner was also a private in the Infantry, same > officers. Lewis was a 4th corporal, Infantry, same officers (Source: Index > to the War of 1812," comp. Mrs. J. T. Moore). > > Abner and another brother, Ira Yager, also fought in the Battle of > Horseshoe Bend under Andrew Jackson, which battle is considered part of > the War of 1812. > > All four, known as "Tennessee Sharpshooters," are sons of John Yager b1750 > (Michael, Adam, Nicholas). > > Reuben, born about 1780-81 in Culpeper Co, VA, died before 6 May 1816, > when letters of administration for his estate were granted in Lincoln > County, TN. That may mean he died in battle or was wounded and died later > back home. Or neither -- because the US suffered very few casualties in > the climactic Battle of New Orleans on 8 January 1815: Reuben was the > eldest of the 3 brothers in the battle, about 35. He left 8 minor > children. > > Abner, born 1789 in Culpeper Co, VA, died 20 Apr 1863 in Arkansas. A "War > of 1812" Website on the Internet shows three enlistments for him: > 1) Abner Yager 1 Reg't (Metcalfe's) W. Tennessee Militia > 2) Abner Yager 2 Reg't Mounted Gunmen (Cannon's) West Tenn. Volunteers > 3) Abner Yager 3 Reg't (Copeland's) West Tennessee Militia > Ancestry.com Database: War of 1812 Service Records shows 2 enlistments > 1) Yager, Abner 1 REG'T (METCALFE'S) W. TENNESSEE MILITIA. > Rank at Induction: Private- Rank at Discharge: Private. Roll Box > 233 - Roll Exct 602 > 2) Yager, Abner: 2 REG'T MOUNTED GUNMEN (CANNON'S), WEST TENNESSEE > VOLUNTEERS. > Rank - Induction PRIVATE - Rank - Discharge PRIVATE. Roll Box > 233 - Roll Exct 602 > Metcalf's Reg't is shown as 1st Regt, W. TN Militia. > Yet another source ("Record of Commissions of Officers in the Tennessee > Militia, 1796-1815," compiled by Moore, p. 230, under "Lincoln County > Commissions") shows that he was commissioned a lieutenant in the 49th > Regiment the very next day after he enlisted, as follows: > "Yager, Abner -- Lieutenant, 49th Regiment, November 14, 1814." > I understand the men often "elected" their officers, so this may have been > an "elective" rank. > > Ira, born in the summer of 1791 in Laurens Co., SC, died between 1860-70 > in Morgan Co., AL > "Index to War of 1812" by Moore: Ira and his brother Abner enlisted on 18 > January 1814. Both ranked Private, in Infantry, with same commanding > officers: Col. S. Copeland and Capt. John Holshouser. > The "War of 1812" Internet Website shows two enlistments for Ira: > "IRY YAGER 2 REG'T MOUNTED GUNMEN (CANNON'S) W. TENN. VOLUNTEERS > IRA YEAGER 3 REG'T (COPELAND'S) WEST TENNESSEE MILITIA > > Lewis, born 18 Mar 1794 in Laurens County, SC, died 26 Apr 1853 in Brent, > Bibb County, Alabama. > Only one enlistment, shown above. According to his widow's application > for bounty land after his death, Lewis was a Corporal in Capt. Sitton's > Company in the Tennessee Militia. He entered the service at Fayetteville, > Tennessee, 13 November, 1814 and served until 13 May 1815. He was > discharged in the Chickasaw Nation. His grandson John Alexander Yeager > stated in a 1938 letter that Lewis was a sharpshooter and bodyguard to > Andrew Jackson. I do believe Great-uncle John was given to hyperbole, so > that may not be exactly right. However, Lewis's gravestone was paid for by > the Veterans Administration and reads: "Lewis Yager, Corp. 4 W. Tenn > Militia, War of 1812, Mar 18 1794 Apr 26 1853" so Uncle John got some of > it right. > > Those interested in reading up on the War of 1812 might like the Rimini > biography of Andrew Jackson with its blow-by-blow battle accounts (Robert > V. Remini: "Andrew Jackson," 1966). However, an excellent new work is > John Meacham's "American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House," > published 2008. Meacham's brief account of the battle on 8 Jan 1815 does > not compare with Rimini's; nor do some of the statistics they cite agree > with each other. > > Betty Johnson > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Ginnie, The brothers Reuben, Abner and Lewis Yager were in the Battle of New Orleans. They enlisted at Fayetteville in Lincoln County, TN on 13 Nov 1814. Reuben was a private in the Infantry under Col. William Metcalf and Captain William Sitton. Abner was also a private in the Infantry, same officers. Lewis was a 4th corporal, Infantry, same officers (Source: Index to the War of 1812," comp. Mrs. J. T. Moore). Abner and another brother, Ira Yager, also fought in the Battle of Horseshoe Bend under Andrew Jackson, which battle is considered part of the War of 1812. All four, known as "Tennessee Sharpshooters," are sons of John Yager b1750 (Michael, Adam, Nicholas). Reuben, born about 1780-81 in Culpeper Co, VA, died before 6 May 1816, when letters of administration for his estate were granted in Lincoln County, TN. That may mean he died in battle or was wounded and died later back home. Or neither -- because the US suffered very few casualties in the climactic Battle of New Orleans on 8 January 1815: Reuben was the eldest of the 3 brothers in the battle, about 35. He left 8 minor children. Abner, born 1789 in Culpeper Co, VA, died 20 Apr 1863 in Arkansas. A "War of 1812" Website on the Internet shows three enlistments for him: 1) Abner Yager 1 Reg't (Metcalfe's) W. Tennessee Militia 2) Abner Yager 2 Reg't Mounted Gunmen (Cannon's) West Tenn. Volunteers 3) Abner Yager 3 Reg't (Copeland's) West Tennessee Militia Ancestry.com Database: War of 1812 Service Records shows 2 enlistments 1) Yager, Abner 1 REG'T (METCALFE'S) W. TENNESSEE MILITIA. Rank at Induction: Private- Rank at Discharge: Private. Roll Box 233 - Roll Exct 602 2) Yager, Abner: 2 REG'T MOUNTED GUNMEN (CANNON'S), WEST TENNESSEE VOLUNTEERS. Rank - Induction PRIVATE - Rank - Discharge PRIVATE. Roll Box 233 - Roll Exct 602 Metcalf's Reg't is shown as 1st Regt, W. TN Militia. Yet another source ("Record of Commissions of Officers in the Tennessee Militia, 1796-1815," compiled by Moore, p. 230, under "Lincoln County Commissions") shows that he was commissioned a lieutenant in the 49th Regiment the very next day after he enlisted, as follows: "Yager, Abner -- Lieutenant, 49th Regiment, November 14, 1814." I understand the men often "elected" their officers, so this may have been an "elective" rank. Ira, born in the summer of 1791 in Laurens Co., SC, died between 1860-70 in Morgan Co., AL "Index to War of 1812" by Moore: Ira and his brother Abner enlisted on 18 January 1814. Both ranked Private, in Infantry, with same commanding officers: Col. S. Copeland and Capt. John Holshouser. The "War of 1812" Internet Website shows two enlistments for Ira: "IRY YAGER 2 REG'T MOUNTED GUNMEN (CANNON'S) W. TENN. VOLUNTEERS IRA YEAGER 3 REG'T (COPELAND'S) WEST TENNESSEE MILITIA Lewis, born 18 Mar 1794 in Laurens County, SC, died 26 Apr 1853 in Brent, Bibb County, Alabama. Only one enlistment, shown above. According to his widow's application for bounty land after his death, Lewis was a Corporal in Capt. Sitton's Company in the Tennessee Militia. He entered the service at Fayetteville, Tennessee, 13 November, 1814 and served until 13 May 1815. He was discharged in the Chickasaw Nation. His grandson John Alexander Yeager stated in a 1938 letter that Lewis was a sharpshooter and bodyguard to Andrew Jackson. I do believe Great-uncle John was given to hyperbole, so that may not be exactly right. However, Lewis's gravestone was paid for by the Veterans Administration and reads: "Lewis Yager, Corp. 4 W. Tenn Militia, War of 1812, Mar 18 1794 Apr 26 1853" so Uncle John got some of it right. Those interested in reading up on the War of 1812 might like the Rimini biography of Andrew Jackson with its blow-by-blow battle accounts (Robert V. Remini: "Andrew Jackson," 1966). However, an excellent new work is John Meacham's "American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House," published 2008. Meacham's brief account of the battle on 8 Jan 1815 does not compare with Rimini's; nor do some of the statistics they cite agree with each other. Betty Johnson
Thanks, Donna-- I think I have seen the Blankenbaker name on lists for either the Battle of Tippecanoe or the Battle of the Thames, or both....must check.... Virginia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Germannans at the Battle of Tippecanoe > Felix Blankenbaker son of Samuel Blankenbaker and Amy Anna Yeager was in > the > War of 1812. His second wife Mary, received a pension. I don't have the > actual copy but have a copy from the National Archives and Records Service > showing they found the record. On my list of things to send for. Lela > Blankenbaker/Harris had a copy (now dec.) she was a very early > Blankenbaker > researcher and my cousin. > Donna F. Bowen > >> >> Hello -- >> >> Does anyone have a Germanna ancestor who was with William Henry Harrison >> at the Battle of Tippecanoe? I am trying to put together some >> information >> on Germanna ancestors who served in the War of 1812, since its >> bicentennial is coming right up. >> >> The Battle of Tippecanoe (November, 1811) was arguably the first round in >> the War of 1812 on the frontier. It helped to open up Indiana for >> settlement, I don't want it to be overlooked the way the Battle of >> Fallen >> Timbers has been. (And if you had a Germanna ancestor at that battle, I >> would like to know that, as well). >> >> Virginia Nuta >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4415 (20090910) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 5458 (20100917) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > >
Fantastic, Betty! Into the file this goes. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Betty Johnson" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:59 PM To: "germanna colonies" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Germannans at the Battle of Tippecanoe > Ginnie, > > The brothers Reuben, Abner and Lewis Yager were in the Battle of New > Orleans. They enlisted at Fayetteville in Lincoln County, TN on 13 Nov > 1814. Reuben was a private in the Infantry under Col. William Metcalf and > Captain William Sitton. Abner was also a private in the Infantry, same > officers. Lewis was a 4th corporal, Infantry, same officers (Source: Index > to the War of 1812," comp. Mrs. J. T. Moore). > > Abner and another brother, Ira Yager, also fought in the Battle of > Horseshoe Bend under Andrew Jackson, which battle is considered part of > the War of 1812. > > All four, known as "Tennessee Sharpshooters," are sons of John Yager b1750 > (Michael, Adam, Nicholas). > > Reuben, born about 1780-81 in Culpeper Co, VA, died before 6 May 1816, > when letters of administration for his estate were granted in Lincoln > County, TN. That may mean he died in battle or was wounded and died later > back home. Or neither -- because the US suffered very few casualties in > the climactic Battle of New Orleans on 8 January 1815: Reuben was the > eldest of the 3 brothers in the battle, about 35. He left 8 minor > children. > > Abner, born 1789 in Culpeper Co, VA, died 20 Apr 1863 in Arkansas. A "War > of 1812" Website on the Internet shows three enlistments for him: > 1) Abner Yager 1 Reg't (Metcalfe's) W. Tennessee Militia > 2) Abner Yager 2 Reg't Mounted Gunmen (Cannon's) West Tenn. Volunteers > 3) Abner Yager 3 Reg't (Copeland's) West Tennessee Militia > Ancestry.com Database: War of 1812 Service Records shows 2 enlistments > 1) Yager, Abner 1 REG'T (METCALFE'S) W. TENNESSEE MILITIA. > Rank at Induction: Private- Rank at Discharge: Private. Roll Box > 233 - Roll Exct 602 > 2) Yager, Abner: 2 REG'T MOUNTED GUNMEN (CANNON'S), WEST TENNESSEE > VOLUNTEERS. > Rank - Induction PRIVATE - Rank - Discharge PRIVATE. Roll Box > 233 - Roll Exct 602 > Metcalf's Reg't is shown as 1st Regt, W. TN Militia. > Yet another source ("Record of Commissions of Officers in the Tennessee > Militia, 1796-1815," compiled by Moore, p. 230, under "Lincoln County > Commissions") shows that he was commissioned a lieutenant in the 49th > Regiment the very next day after he enlisted, as follows: > "Yager, Abner -- Lieutenant, 49th Regiment, November 14, 1814." > I understand the men often "elected" their officers, so this may have been > an "elective" rank. > > Ira, born in the summer of 1791 in Laurens Co., SC, died between 1860-70 > in Morgan Co., AL > "Index to War of 1812" by Moore: Ira and his brother Abner enlisted on 18 > January 1814. Both ranked Private, in Infantry, with same commanding > officers: Col. S. Copeland and Capt. John Holshouser. > The "War of 1812" Internet Website shows two enlistments for Ira: > "IRY YAGER 2 REG'T MOUNTED GUNMEN (CANNON'S) W. TENN. VOLUNTEERS > IRA YEAGER 3 REG'T (COPELAND'S) WEST TENNESSEE MILITIA > > Lewis, born 18 Mar 1794 in Laurens County, SC, died 26 Apr 1853 in Brent, > Bibb County, Alabama. > Only one enlistment, shown above. According to his widow's application > for bounty land after his death, Lewis was a Corporal in Capt. Sitton's > Company in the Tennessee Militia. He entered the service at Fayetteville, > Tennessee, 13 November, 1814 and served until 13 May 1815. He was > discharged in the Chickasaw Nation. His grandson John Alexander Yeager > stated in a 1938 letter that Lewis was a sharpshooter and bodyguard to > Andrew Jackson. I do believe Great-uncle John was given to hyperbole, so > that may not be exactly right. However, Lewis's gravestone was paid for by > the Veterans Administration and reads: "Lewis Yager, Corp. 4 W. Tenn > Militia, War of 1812, Mar 18 1794 Apr 26 1853" so Uncle John got some of > it right. > > Those interested in reading up on the War of 1812 might like the Rimini > biography of Andrew Jackson with its blow-by-blow battle accounts (Robert > V. Remini: "Andrew Jackson," 1966). However, an excellent new work is > John Meacham's "American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House," > published 2008. Meacham's brief account of the battle on 8 Jan 1815 does > not compare with Rimini's; nor do some of the statistics they cite agree > with each other. > > Betty Johnson > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Felix Blankenbaker son of Samuel Blankenbaker and Amy Anna Yeager was in the War of 1812. His second wife Mary, received a pension. I don't have the actual copy but have a copy from the National Archives and Records Service showing they found the record. On my list of things to send for. Lela Blankenbaker/Harris had a copy (now dec.) she was a very early Blankenbaker researcher and my cousin. Donna F. Bowen > > Hello -- > > Does anyone have a Germanna ancestor who was with William Henry Harrison > at the Battle of Tippecanoe? I am trying to put together some information > on Germanna ancestors who served in the War of 1812, since its > bicentennial is coming right up. > > The Battle of Tippecanoe (November, 1811) was arguably the first round in > the War of 1812 on the frontier. It helped to open up Indiana for > settlement, I don't want it to be overlooked the way the Battle of Fallen > Timbers has been. (And if you had a Germanna ancestor at that battle, I > would like to know that, as well). > > Virginia Nuta > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4415 (20090910) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > >
Thanks, Ron. I am going to start an "1812" file for these guys. I notice also that there is a "Hufman" on the list. Have you ever tried to find out where this particular unit served? I'm not saying it is easy but I am told it is possible. Virginia -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ron Brelsford" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:19 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Germannans at the Battle of Tippecanoe > Virginia, In response to your email requesting information on Germanna > ancestors who fought in the War of 1812 I have the following on Lewis > Hanback which may be pertinent to your query. > Lewis is my Great-Great-Great Grandfather > ."Acory BERRY, a son-in-law of Lewis HANIBACK(SIC), came from Shenandoah > Co, Virginia to Johnson Twp (Champaign County Ohio) in 1807. The year > following the arrival of BERRY and his wife in the Twp, his father-in-law, > Lewis HANBACK came to Johnson Twp and entered 160 acres in Section 14 > paying > $2.25 an acre. HANBACK brought with him his wife Barbara & 3 children and > later 3 more children were born in this Twp.HANBACK served in the War of > 1812 & while he was at the front, one of his children was born & before he > returned, his faithful wife had cleared nearly 3 acres of ground." > History > of Champaign Co. Ohio, Judge Evan P. Middleton, B.F. Bowen & Co > Indianapolis > 1917, Vol 1,P.301. > > ROLL OF CAPT. THOMAS STRETCH'S COMPANY > (Probably from Champaign County). > . Served from > November 27, until December 27, 1812. > Capt. Thomas Stretch Lieut. Ezekial Arrowsmith Ensign, > Walker Johnston > Sergt. James McLaughlin Sergt. George Faulkner Sergt. > William > Sargent > Sergt. Frederick Stonebager Corp. Joseph Hill Corp. > John Long, Sr. > Privates. . Privates. > . Privates. > Comer, David . Comer, Peter > .Clark, Marcus > Clark, Reuben . Colbert, Jesse . > Dils, Samuel > Humphries, Robert Hufman, Jeremlah . Hanback, > Lewis > Harber, Elisha . Kite, Benjamin > Kite, Samuel > Longfeller, Joseph . Lyon, John > .Long, John, Jr. > Metz, Emanuel . Monroe, James > Moody, John > Maggeat, Adam .Mitts, Samuel > Mitchell, James > Mitchell, John . Megill, John > . McAlexander, James > McIntyre, Thomas .Smith, James > Slegle, Jacob > Stephens, Christian .Runkle, Peter > Stephens, John > Whiteman, John Wilson, William > http://www.ohiohistory.org/onlinedoc/war1812/roster/1812/txt/page0128.txt > Hope this will help your research > Best Regards, Ron Brelsford, [email protected] > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4415 (20090910) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4415 (20090910) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
Virginia, In response to your email requesting information on Germanna ancestors who fought in the War of 1812 I have the following on Lewis Hanback which may be pertinent to your query. Lewis is my Great-Great-Great Grandfather ."Acory BERRY, a son-in-law of Lewis HANIBACK(SIC), came from Shenandoah Co, Virginia to Johnson Twp (Champaign County Ohio) in 1807. The year following the arrival of BERRY and his wife in the Twp, his father-in-law, Lewis HANBACK came to Johnson Twp and entered 160 acres in Section 14 paying $2.25 an acre. HANBACK brought with him his wife Barbara & 3 children and later 3 more children were born in this Twp.HANBACK served in the War of 1812 & while he was at the front, one of his children was born & before he returned, his faithful wife had cleared nearly 3 acres of ground." History of Champaign Co. Ohio, Judge Evan P. Middleton, B.F. Bowen & Co Indianapolis 1917, Vol 1,P.301. ROLL OF CAPT. THOMAS STRETCH'S COMPANY (Probably from Champaign County). . Served from November 27, until December 27, 1812. Capt. Thomas Stretch Lieut. Ezekial Arrowsmith Ensign, Walker Johnston Sergt. James McLaughlin Sergt. George Faulkner Sergt. William Sargent Sergt. Frederick Stonebager Corp. Joseph Hill Corp. John Long, Sr. Privates. . Privates. . Privates. Comer, David . Comer, Peter .Clark, Marcus Clark, Reuben . Colbert, Jesse . Dils, Samuel Humphries, Robert Hufman, Jeremlah . Hanback, Lewis Harber, Elisha . Kite, Benjamin Kite, Samuel Longfeller, Joseph . Lyon, John .Long, John, Jr. Metz, Emanuel . Monroe, James Moody, John Maggeat, Adam .Mitts, Samuel Mitchell, James Mitchell, John . Megill, John . McAlexander, James McIntyre, Thomas .Smith, James Slegle, Jacob Stephens, Christian .Runkle, Peter Stephens, John Whiteman, John Wilson, William http://www.ohiohistory.org/onlinedoc/war1812/roster/1812/txt/page0128.txt Hope this will help your research Best Regards, Ron Brelsford, [email protected]
Hello -- Does anyone have a Germanna ancestor who was with William Henry Harrison at the Battle of Tippecanoe? I am trying to put together some information on Germanna ancestors who served in the War of 1812, since its bicentennial is coming right up. The Battle of Tippecanoe (November, 1811) was arguably the first round in the War of 1812 on the frontier. It helped to open up Indiana for settlement, I don't want it to be overlooked the way the Battle of Fallen Timbers has been. (And if you had a Germanna ancestor at that battle, I would like to know that, as well). Virginia Nuta __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4415 (20090910) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
There are other early records for Hebron Lutheran Church. I do not know if they were microfilmed when the communion lists and baptismal records were microfilmed. These records pertain to the Treasurers Report which may be the 1733-1734 years. There is another book that I recall seeing several years ago when Thom and I were examining the original book in the vault of a bank in Madison? Time was short as it was Reunion time. I called Thom's attention to the book and on close examination he agreed that it was the Subscription Book for some years in 1730s. It appears that it was "Subscription Book of the Rev. Stover 1735-1339." There is a reference to these two lists in an early 1900s work. Cary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cathi Clore Frost" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] 1789 at Hebron Lutheran Church > John Blankenbaker published the existing communion lists and the baptismal > records which are what is available. > > For John's work see: > http://www.germanna.com/HCL.htm > http://www.germanna.com/HBR.htm > > Cathi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Willis" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:40 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] 1789 at Hebron Lutheran Church > > > > Is there a list of members, marriages and births in the Hebron Church? > > > > Linda Willis > > [email protected] > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "ANITA SCHMIDT" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] 1789 at Hebron Lutheran Church > > > > > >> Elizabeth Rouse, wife of Matthias Rouse, and all of their children were > >> members in 1789. > >> > >> Anita Rouse Schmidt > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Virginia > >> Nuta > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:21 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] 1789 at Hebron Lutheran Church > >> > >> Blind John Yager was an Elder of the "Dutch Church." > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------- > >> From: "Marc Wheat" <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 7:35 AM > >> To: "Germanna Colonies" <[email protected]> > >> Subject: [GERMANNA] 1789 at Hebron Lutheran Church > >> > >>> Who was a member in January and therefore probably heard James Madison > >>> debate James Monroe when they were running for Congress against each > >>> other? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > >>> data. > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >>> without > >> > >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >>> > >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > >>> signature database 4415 (20090910) __________ > >>> > >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >>> > >>> http://www.eset.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > >> signature > >> database 4415 (20090910) __________ > >> > >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >> > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > >> > >> > >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > >> data. > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > >> data. > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > > data. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Is there a list of members, marriages and births in the Hebron Church? Linda Willis [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANITA SCHMIDT" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] 1789 at Hebron Lutheran Church > Elizabeth Rouse, wife of Matthias Rouse, and all of their children were > members in 1789. > > Anita Rouse Schmidt > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Virginia Nuta > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] 1789 at Hebron Lutheran Church > > Blind John Yager was an Elder of the "Dutch Church." > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Marc Wheat" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 7:35 AM > To: "Germanna Colonies" <[email protected]> > Subject: [GERMANNA] 1789 at Hebron Lutheran Church > >> Who was a member in January and therefore probably heard James Madison >> debate James Monroe when they were running for Congress against each >> other? >> >> >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line >> data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4415 (20090910) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4415 (20090910) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
John Blankenbaker published the existing communion lists and the baptismal records which are what is available. For John's work see: http://www.germanna.com/HCL.htm http://www.germanna.com/HBR.htm Cathi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Willis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] 1789 at Hebron Lutheran Church > Is there a list of members, marriages and births in the Hebron Church? > > Linda Willis > [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ANITA SCHMIDT" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:14 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] 1789 at Hebron Lutheran Church > > >> Elizabeth Rouse, wife of Matthias Rouse, and all of their children were >> members in 1789. >> >> Anita Rouse Schmidt >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Virginia >> Nuta >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:21 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] 1789 at Hebron Lutheran Church >> >> Blind John Yager was an Elder of the "Dutch Church." >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Marc Wheat" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 7:35 AM >> To: "Germanna Colonies" <[email protected]> >> Subject: [GERMANNA] 1789 at Hebron Lutheran Church >> >>> Who was a member in January and therefore probably heard James Madison >>> debate James Monroe when they were running for Congress against each >>> other? >>> >>> >>> >>> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line >>> data. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without >> >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature database 4415 (20090910) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature >> database 4415 (20090910) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line >> data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line >> data. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > If you refer to a Germanna descendant, include a link to your on-line > data. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >