Amen to that. (Ancestors turning over in their graves). One question I have concerning German life is when the people were living in that area classified as Alsace Lorraine and the borders kept changing, did everyone have to change the country of birth they listed on their applications for naturalization. What if it was France when they were born and then Germany when they left? Just wondering how the general population dealt with all the government change. Thanks. Jerilyn Jerilyn Lappin Koskan Cook Co., Illinois [email protected] FTM user BREWER-Daniel Belmont, OH, Northumberland, Indiana and Jefferson, PA DAVIS/DAVIDSON-Marium/Mary b1803 Bucks, PA Mother Rachel Greene DUSATKO-Barbara, Anton late 1800s Butler, NE DYE-William, David, Daniel in Monroe, OH early 1800s. FISHER-Joseph, b abt 1805 OH, last Morgan, OH 1850. Wife Judith Lappin. Children John, Knight, Elizabeth, Thomas, Hannah, Mary, Rachel, Ruth GRAY-Ogden b 1850 Morgan, OH, d Fulton, IL. Children - Ogden, Lafayette, Mary A., Cornelius, Elizabeth, Rachel GREENE-Rachel, b abt 1770, Bucks, PA HANNA-Archibald, d 1793 Westmoreland, PA Children Hugh, William, Hannah, Mary (wed Robert Williams) KIRK-Elizabeth, Quaker, daughter Joseph Kirk/Judith Knight, wed Robert Lappin abt 1790. Chester & Fayette, PA Belmont, OH KOSKAN-Vaclav, b 1850s Czechoslovakia d Butler, NE LAPPIN-PA and OH late 1700s/1800s LEAK/LEEK-MD & Eastern, OH in late 1700s and 1800s MITCHELL-Thomas Mitchell, b 1770s Greene, PA -d Monroe, OH. Daughter Maria wed William Dye. MONROE-Nicholas Monroe, b PA, died Belmont, OH early 1850s. Children Curtis, William, John, Samuel, Mary (Hendershot), Eleanor (Maring), Rebecca (Murphy), Miller, George, Richard. MONTGOMERY-Daniel, d 1842 Vinton, OH Family to Wayne, IL Wife Alice Lappin, Children William, Mariah, John, Elizabeth, Rachel, Letticia, Ruth, Euphemia OATES-Sarah Elizabeth born Lewis, WV, adopted Samuel McCluster - to Decatur, KS Parents supposedly Elizabeth Puffenbarger/Benjamin Oates SLUSHER-Frederick, b PA, lived Monroe, OH, d Wayne, IL SMITH-Aaron 1755/Anna Foster Bucks, PA Children John, Amos, Hannah, Samuel, Charles, Mary STARBUCKS-John and Ann Lappin of Belmont, OH STARKEY - b 1810 PA, wed Belmont, OH TODD - Wm. & Rachel Lappin, d late 1800s Morgan, OH WADSWORTH-Alcinda, Martha, Wm., Rachel, Emily, Ruth b Belmont, OH
On 21 Nov 2000, at 9:31, [email protected] wrote: > Amen to that. (Ancestors turning over in their graves). > > One question I have concerning German life is when the people were > living in that area classified as Alsace Lorraine and the borders kept > changing, did everyone have to change the country of birth they listed > on their applications for naturalization. What if it was France when > they were born and then Germany when they left? Just wondering how > the general population dealt with all the government change. One normally "feels" what one is. It goes back to the mother tongue. Obviously a document reflects the current situation when issued otherwise it would be a lie but in their heart people know who they are. For example, my passport says that I was born in Elbing, Germany even though, when issued, Elbing had been incorporated into Poland as Elblag. In other words, when I was born it was Germany and the passport reflects that truth. Fred 4788 Corian Court Naples, FL 34114 941-775-7838 [email protected] Florida Law - count dimples but not military votes
And my mother, who was born in Tilsit, in East Prussia (now Sowietsk, Russia) is a German, no question about it! She would probably have a coronary if anyone suggested she must be Russian! Dorie ----- Original Message ----- From: W. Fred Rump <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Germany or France > On 21 Nov 2000, at 9:31, [email protected] wrote: > > > Amen to that. (Ancestors turning over in their graves). > > > > One question I have concerning German life is when the people were > > living in that area classified as Alsace Lorraine and the borders kept > > changing, did everyone have to change the country of birth they listed > > on their applications for naturalization. What if it was France when > > they were born and then Germany when they left? Just wondering how > > the general population dealt with all the government change. > > One normally "feels" what one is. It goes back to the mother tongue. > Obviously a document reflects the current situation when issued > otherwise it would be a lie but in their heart people know who they > are. > > For example, my passport says that I was born in Elbing, Germany > even though, when issued, Elbing had been incorporated into > Poland as Elblag. In other words, when I was born it was Germany > and the passport reflects that truth. > > Fred > > > 4788 Corian Court > Naples, FL 34114 > 941-775-7838 > [email protected] > Florida Law - count dimples but not military votes