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    1. Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles
    2. Mike and Dorie Brennecke
    3. We always had icicles from Germany to put on our tree--silvery strands about a foot long that Mom always draped in little clumps so they really looked like icicles. The ones in the US are made of plastic and just don't have the same effect because they aren't heavy enough. The German ones we had were really metal, kind of like foil, and much heavier so they hung really straight. It turned out they were leaded, and I guess they stopped making them because the lead was dangerous or something. But we loved them, and when we couldn't get them anymore, Mom used the ones we had over and over until they just fell apart! Dorie ----- Original Message ----- From: Heinz L. Zulauf <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles > <<Heinz you live in Germany, let us know what you do on Christmas evening, > or a story what come to mind, from other Christmas evenings.>> > > Katharina, > > your description is as good as it can be. It's so typical that there isn't > very much to add. > The procedure you describe used to be the same when I was a child (must be > centuries ago). The husband and the children used to sit around somewhere in > the bedroom (or any other room a family might have had) and the wife used to > prepare the tree in the living room. We didn't have candies on the tree (may > be we couldn't afford it), and some the ornaments must have been at least > one hundred years old. Electric candles just didn't exist but we had a lot > of silvery lametta (angels' hair) and wooden ornaments. We used to go to the > Christmas service at around 5 p.m. > By the way, the whole procedure is still the same, noew as our children have > left and live in their own homes. My wife and I still have a smallish > Christmas tree with real candles and lametta and my sons come to see us in > the afternoon and celebrate Christmas Eve with us. The Christmas Dinner > habits have changed a bit since money is no longer at short supply. We now > use to have a Swiss meat fondue instead of "Frankfurter" or "Wiener", but > other than this most of the traditions have survived. > Any more questions? > > Heinz > _________________________ > Heinz L. Zulauf > Flotowstrasse 9 > D-64287 Darmstadt > Germany > e-mail: [email protected] > > Visit my Private Homepage > "The Classical Music Site" > http://myweb.vector.ch/zulauf > _________________________ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Katharina Hines" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 1:07 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles > > > The town I visit last, in Hessen, they had real candles on the Christmas > tree in church for the Christmas service. > As a child our church had two very big Christmas trees in the Church. > Each one had real candles on them. > There were 3 Christmas services in the evening and one at midnight. > Before each service all new candle would be placed on the tree. > > My family also has real candles on the christmas tree. > In the States you put a tree up around Thanksgiving. > In Germany you don't buy the tree till a few days before Christmas. > As a child , I was told ' stay in your room' from late afternoon till > Christmas eve, because the Christ-child( Christkind) will come tonight. > With out you knowing, your parents prepare the Christmas tree > (Weihnachtsbaum0.The Ornaments varies from one household to an other. > Ranging from home-made, all-natural and bought ornaments. > We always had candy on the tree, the candy we could eat off the tree, till > the tree came down. We would call it "Plündern " > After sun set we would go the Church service. > After we came home, we had to wait, till all the candles on the christmas > tree where lit. Then a little bell would ring, and we could enter the Gute > Stube (living room). > The family sings Christmas carols ,read the Christmas story, or read > Christmas poems. Then the Bescherung (gift opening) got started. > After that we would eat the dinner. > Some families eat the dinner before the Bescherung. > Heinz you live in Germany, let us know what you do on Christmas evening, > or a story what come to mind, from other Christmas evenings. > > Katharina > > > >In Germany our friends don't decorate their tree until Christmas Eve and > >they > >do use real candles. Remember they are using beeswax candles which burn > >very > >slowly and don't drip much. They also only put about 12 candles on a tree > >and someone is in the room at all times when they are lit. Jerilyn > > > >Jerilyn Lappin Koskan > >Cook Co., Illinois > >[email protected] > >FTM user > > > >BREWER-Daniel Belmont, OH, Northumberland, Indiana and Jefferson, PA > >DAVIS/DAVIDSON-Marium/Mary b1803 Bucks, PA Mother Rachel Greene > >DUSATKO-Barbara, Anton late 1800s Butler, NE > >DYE-William, David, Daniel in Monroe, OH early 1800s. > >FISHER-Joseph, b abt 1805 OH, last Morgan, OH 1850. Wife Judith Lappin. > >Children John, Knight, Elizabeth, Thomas, Hannah, Mary, Rachel, Ruth > >GRAY-Ogden b 1850 Morgan, OH, d Fulton, IL. Children - Ogden, Lafayette, > >Mary A., Cornelius, Elizabeth, Rachel > >GREENE-Rachel, b abt 1770, Bucks, PA > >HANNA-Archibald, d 1793 Westmoreland, PA Children Hugh, William, Hannah, > >Mary > >(wed Robert Williams) > >KIRK-Elizabeth, Quaker, daughter Joseph Kirk/Judith Knight, wed Robert > >Lappin > >abt 1790. Chester & Fayette, PA Belmont, OH > >KOSKAN-Vaclav, b 1850s Czechoslovakia d Butler, NE > >LAPPIN-PA and OH late 1700s/1800s > >LEAK/LEEK-MD & Eastern, OH in late 1700s and 1800s > >MITCHELL-Thomas Mitchell, b 1770s Greene, PA -d Monroe, OH. Daughter Maria > >wed William Dye. > > > >MONROE-Nicholas Monroe, b PA, died Belmont, OH early 1850s. Children > >Curtis, > >William, John, Samuel, Mary (Hendershot), Eleanor (Maring), Rebecca > >(Murphy), > >Miller, George, Richard. > >MONTGOMERY-Daniel, d 1842 Vinton, OH Family to Wayne, IL Wife Alice Lappin, > >Children William, Mariah, John, Elizabeth, Rachel, Letticia, Ruth, Euphemia > >OATES-Sarah Elizabeth born Lewis, WV, adopted Samuel McCluster - to > >Decatur, > >KS Parents supposedly Elizabeth Puffenbarger/Benjamin Oates > >SLUSHER-Frederick, b PA, lived Monroe, OH, d Wayne, IL > >SMITH-Aaron 1755/Anna Foster Bucks, PA Children John, Amos, Hannah, Samuel, > >Charles, Mary > >STARBUCKS-John and Ann Lappin of Belmont, OH > >STARKEY - b 1810 PA, wed Belmont, OH > >TODD - Wm. & Rachel Lappin, d late 1800s Morgan, OH > >WADSWORTH-Alcinda, Martha, Wm., Rachel, Emily, Ruth b Belmont, OH > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > >

    12/03/2000 12:17:54
    1. Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles
    2. Peggy Proctor
    3. As a child in the US, we had the kind of icicles you are talking about. Heavy and easily broken if pulled to hard. We tried to press them out straight and saved them each year. That part seems the same. I think the heavy ones went off the market during WWII. The metal was used for the war effort. I wonder if they weren't made out of tin foil???? That was saved for the war effort. Along with chewing gum wrappers. The wrapper back then had some foil. Peg from Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike and Dorie Brennecke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles > We always had icicles from Germany to put on our tree--silvery strands about > a foot long that Mom always draped in little clumps so they really looked > like icicles. The ones in the US are made of plastic and just don't have > the same effect because they aren't heavy enough. The German ones we had > were really metal, kind of like foil, and much heavier so they hung really > straight. It turned out they were leaded, and I guess they stopped making > them because the lead was dangerous or something. But we loved them, and > when we couldn't get them anymore, Mom used the ones we had over and over > until they just fell apart! Dorie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Heinz L. Zulauf <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles > > > > <<Heinz you live in Germany, let us know what you do on Christmas evening, > > or a story what come to mind, from other Christmas evenings.>> > > > > Katharina, > > > > your description is as good as it can be. It's so typical that there isn't > > very much to add. > > The procedure you describe used to be the same when I was a child (must be > > centuries ago). The husband and the children used to sit around somewhere > in > > the bedroom (or any other room a family might have had) and the wife used > to > > prepare the tree in the living room. We didn't have candies on the tree > (may > > be we couldn't afford it), and some the ornaments must have been at least > > one hundred years old. Electric candles just didn't exist but we had a lot > > of silvery lametta (angels' hair) and wooden ornaments. We used to go to > the > > Christmas service at around 5 p.m. > > By the way, the whole procedure is still the same, noew as our children > have > > left and live in their own homes. My wife and I still have a smallish > > Christmas tree with real candles and lametta and my sons come to see us in > > the afternoon and celebrate Christmas Eve with us. The Christmas Dinner > > habits have changed a bit since money is no longer at short supply. We now > > use to have a Swiss meat fondue instead of "Frankfurter" or "Wiener", but > > other than this most of the traditions have survived. > > Any more questions? > > > > Heinz > > _________________________ > > Heinz L. Zulauf > > Flotowstrasse 9 > > D-64287 Darmstadt > > Germany > > e-mail: [email protected] > > > > Visit my Private Homepage > > "The Classical Music Site" > > http://myweb.vector.ch/zulauf > > _________________________ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Katharina Hines" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 1:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles > > > > > > The town I visit last, in Hessen, they had real candles on the Christmas > > tree in church for the Christmas service. > > As a child our church had two very big Christmas trees in the Church. > > Each one had real candles on them. > > There were 3 Christmas services in the evening and one at midnight. > > Before each service all new candle would be placed on the tree. > > > > My family also has real candles on the christmas tree. > > In the States you put a tree up around Thanksgiving. > > In Germany you don't buy the tree till a few days before Christmas. > > As a child , I was told ' stay in your room' from late afternoon till > > Christmas eve, because the Christ-child( Christkind) will come tonight. > > With out you knowing, your parents prepare the Christmas tree > > (Weihnachtsbaum0.The Ornaments varies from one household to an other. > > Ranging from home-made, all-natural and bought ornaments. > > We always had candy on the tree, the candy we could eat off the tree, till > > the tree came down. We would call it "Plündern " > > After sun set we would go the Church service. > > After we came home, we had to wait, till all the candles on the christmas > > tree where lit. Then a little bell would ring, and we could enter the Gute > > Stube (living room). > > The family sings Christmas carols ,read the Christmas story, or read > > Christmas poems. Then the Bescherung (gift opening) got started. > > After that we would eat the dinner. > > Some families eat the dinner before the Bescherung. > > Heinz you live in Germany, let us know what you do on Christmas evening, > > or a story what come to mind, from other Christmas evenings. > > > > Katharina > > > > > > >In Germany our friends don't decorate their tree until Christmas Eve and > > >they > > >do use real candles. Remember they are using beeswax candles which burn > > >very > > >slowly and don't drip much. They also only put about 12 candles on a > tree > > >and someone is in the room at all times when they are lit. Jerilyn > > > > > >Jerilyn Lappin Koskan > > >Cook Co., Illinois > > >[email protected] > > >FTM user > > > > > >BREWER-Daniel Belmont, OH, Northumberland, Indiana and Jefferson, PA > > >DAVIS/DAVIDSON-Marium/Mary b1803 Bucks, PA Mother Rachel Greene > > >DUSATKO-Barbara, Anton late 1800s Butler, NE > > >DYE-William, David, Daniel in Monroe, OH early 1800s. > > >FISHER-Joseph, b abt 1805 OH, last Morgan, OH 1850. Wife Judith Lappin. > > >Children John, Knight, Elizabeth, Thomas, Hannah, Mary, Rachel, Ruth > > >GRAY-Ogden b 1850 Morgan, OH, d Fulton, IL. Children - Ogden, Lafayette, > > >Mary A., Cornelius, Elizabeth, Rachel > > >GREENE-Rachel, b abt 1770, Bucks, PA > > >HANNA-Archibald, d 1793 Westmoreland, PA Children Hugh, William, Hannah, > > >Mary > > >(wed Robert Williams) > > >KIRK-Elizabeth, Quaker, daughter Joseph Kirk/Judith Knight, wed Robert > > >Lappin > > >abt 1790. Chester & Fayette, PA Belmont, OH > > >KOSKAN-Vaclav, b 1850s Czechoslovakia d Butler, NE > > >LAPPIN-PA and OH late 1700s/1800s > > >LEAK/LEEK-MD & Eastern, OH in late 1700s and 1800s > > >MITCHELL-Thomas Mitchell, b 1770s Greene, PA -d Monroe, OH. Daughter > Maria > > >wed William Dye. > > > > > >MONROE-Nicholas Monroe, b PA, died Belmont, OH early 1850s. Children > > >Curtis, > > >William, John, Samuel, Mary (Hendershot), Eleanor (Maring), Rebecca > > >(Murphy), > > >Miller, George, Richard. > > >MONTGOMERY-Daniel, d 1842 Vinton, OH Family to Wayne, IL Wife Alice > Lappin, > > >Children William, Mariah, John, Elizabeth, Rachel, Letticia, Ruth, > Euphemia > > >OATES-Sarah Elizabeth born Lewis, WV, adopted Samuel McCluster - to > > >Decatur, > > >KS Parents supposedly Elizabeth Puffenbarger/Benjamin Oates > > >SLUSHER-Frederick, b PA, lived Monroe, OH, d Wayne, IL > > >SMITH-Aaron 1755/Anna Foster Bucks, PA Children John, Amos, Hannah, > Samuel, > > >Charles, Mary > > >STARBUCKS-John and Ann Lappin of Belmont, OH > > >STARKEY - b 1810 PA, wed Belmont, OH > > >TODD - Wm. & Rachel Lappin, d late 1800s Morgan, OH > > >WADSWORTH-Alcinda, Martha, Wm., Rachel, Emily, Ruth b Belmont, OH > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > _________ > > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > > > >

    12/03/2000 01:37:32
    1. Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] lead icycles
    2. C. Lisa
    3. They stopped making the lead icicles because a potential health hazard for children that ate them or put in their mouths around when lead paint became an issue. We also saved them from year to year and I still can't stop the habit of doing with the vinyl or plastic or whatever they are made of. I used to be able to throw the lead icicles on the highest branches so it would hang but not this plastic stuff -- it's too light and the static cling to your clothes. But it still looks pretty. Claire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Proctor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles As a child in the US, we had the kind of icicles you are talking about. Heavy and easily broken if pulled to hard. We tried to press them out straight and saved them each year. That part seems the same. I think the heavy ones went off the market during WWII. The metal was used for the war effort. I wonder if they weren't made out of tin foil???? That was saved for the war effort. Along with chewing gum wrappers. The wrapper back then had some foil. Peg from Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike and Dorie Brennecke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles > We always had icicles from Germany to put on our tree--silvery strands about > a foot long that Mom always draped in little clumps so they really looked > like icicles. The ones in the US are made of plastic and just don't have > the same effect because they aren't heavy enough. The German ones we had > were really metal, kind of like foil, and much heavier so they hung really > straight. It turned out they were leaded, and I guess they stopped making > them because the lead was dangerous or something. But we loved them, and > when we couldn't get them anymore, Mom used the ones we had over and over > until they just fell apart! Dorie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Heinz L. Zulauf <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles > > > > <<Heinz you live in Germany, let us know what you do on Christmas evening, > > or a story what come to mind, from other Christmas evenings.>> > > > > Katharina, > > > > your description is as good as it can be. It's so typical that there isn't > > very much to add. > > The procedure you describe used to be the same when I was a child (must be > > centuries ago). The husband and the children used to sit around somewhere > in > > the bedroom (or any other room a family might have had) and the wife used > to > > prepare the tree in the living room. We didn't have candies on the tree > (may > > be we couldn't afford it), and some the ornaments must have been at least > > one hundred years old. Electric candles just didn't exist but we had a lot > > of silvery lametta (angels' hair) and wooden ornaments. We used to go to > the > > Christmas service at around 5 p.m. > > By the way, the whole procedure is still the same, noew as our children > have > > left and live in their own homes. My wife and I still have a smallish > > Christmas tree with real candles and lametta and my sons come to see us in > > the afternoon and celebrate Christmas Eve with us. The Christmas Dinner > > habits have changed a bit since money is no longer at short supply. We now > > use to have a Swiss meat fondue instead of "Frankfurter" or "Wiener", but > > other than this most of the traditions have survived. > > Any more questions? > > > > Heinz > > _________________________ > > Heinz L. Zulauf > > Flotowstrasse 9 > > D-64287 Darmstadt > > Germany > > e-mail: [email protected] > > > > Visit my Private Homepage > > "The Classical Music Site" > > http://myweb.vector.ch/zulauf > > _________________________ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Katharina Hines" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 1:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles > > > > > > The town I visit last, in Hessen, they had real candles on the Christmas > > tree in church for the Christmas service. > > As a child our church had two very big Christmas trees in the Church. > > Each one had real candles on them. > > There were 3 Christmas services in the evening and one at midnight. > > Before each service all new candle would be placed on the tree. > > > > My family also has real candles on the christmas tree. > > In the States you put a tree up around Thanksgiving. > > In Germany you don't buy the tree till a few days before Christmas. > > As a child , I was told ' stay in your room' from late afternoon till > > Christmas eve, because the Christ-child( Christkind) will come tonight. > > With out you knowing, your parents prepare the Christmas tree > > (Weihnachtsbaum0.The Ornaments varies from one household to an other. > > Ranging from home-made, all-natural and bought ornaments. > > We always had candy on the tree, the candy we could eat off the tree, till > > the tree came down. We would call it "Plündern " > > After sun set we would go the Church service. > > After we came home, we had to wait, till all the candles on the christmas > > tree where lit. Then a little bell would ring, and we could enter the Gute > > Stube (living room). > > The family sings Christmas carols ,read the Christmas story, or read > > Christmas poems. Then the Bescherung (gift opening) got started. > > After that we would eat the dinner. > > Some families eat the dinner before the Bescherung. > > Heinz you live in Germany, let us know what you do on Christmas evening, > > or a story what come to mind, from other Christmas evenings. > > > > Katharina > > > > > > >In Germany our friends don't decorate their tree until Christmas Eve and > > >they > > >do use real candles. Remember they are using beeswax candles which burn > > >very > > >slowly and don't drip much. They also only put about 12 candles on a > tree > > >and someone is in the room at all times when they are lit. Jerilyn > > > > > >Jerilyn Lappin Koskan > > >Cook Co., Illinois > > >[email protected] > > >FTM user > > > > > >BREWER-Daniel Belmont, OH, Northumberland, Indiana and Jefferson, PA > > >DAVIS/DAVIDSON-Marium/Mary b1803 Bucks, PA Mother Rachel Greene > > >DUSATKO-Barbara, Anton late 1800s Butler, NE > > >DYE-William, David, Daniel in Monroe, OH early 1800s. > > >FISHER-Joseph, b abt 1805 OH, last Morgan, OH 1850. Wife Judith Lappin. > > >Children John, Knight, Elizabeth, Thomas, Hannah, Mary, Rachel, Ruth > > >GRAY-Ogden b 1850 Morgan, OH, d Fulton, IL. Children - Ogden, Lafayette, > > >Mary A., Cornelius, Elizabeth, Rachel > > >GREENE-Rachel, b abt 1770, Bucks, PA > > >HANNA-Archibald, d 1793 Westmoreland, PA Children Hugh, William, Hannah, > > >Mary > > >(wed Robert Williams) > > >KIRK-Elizabeth, Quaker, daughter Joseph Kirk/Judith Knight, wed Robert > > >Lappin > > >abt 1790. Chester & Fayette, PA Belmont, OH > > >KOSKAN-Vaclav, b 1850s Czechoslovakia d Butler, NE > > >LAPPIN-PA and OH late 1700s/1800s > > >LEAK/LEEK-MD & Eastern, OH in late 1700s and 1800s > > >MITCHELL-Thomas Mitchell, b 1770s Greene, PA -d Monroe, OH. Daughter > Maria > > >wed William Dye. > > > > > >MONROE-Nicholas Monroe, b PA, died Belmont, OH early 1850s. Children > > >Curtis, > > >William, John, Samuel, Mary (Hendershot), Eleanor (Maring), Rebecca > > >(Murphy), > > >Miller, George, Richard. > > >MONTGOMERY-Daniel, d 1842 Vinton, OH Family to Wayne, IL Wife Alice > Lappin, > > >Children William, Mariah, John, Elizabeth, Rachel, Letticia, Ruth, > Euphemia > > >OATES-Sarah Elizabeth born Lewis, WV, adopted Samuel McCluster - to > > >Decatur, > > >KS Parents supposedly Elizabeth Puffenbarger/Benjamin Oates > > >SLUSHER-Frederick, b PA, lived Monroe, OH, d Wayne, IL > > >SMITH-Aaron 1755/Anna Foster Bucks, PA Children John, Amos, Hannah, > Samuel, > > >Charles, Mary > > >STARBUCKS-John and Ann Lappin of Belmont, OH > > >STARKEY - b 1810 PA, wed Belmont, OH > > >TODD - Wm. & Rachel Lappin, d late 1800s Morgan, OH > > >WADSWORTH-Alcinda, Martha, Wm., Rachel, Emily, Ruth b Belmont, OH > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > _________ > > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > > > >

    12/03/2000 04:20:34
    1. Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles
    2. Heinz L. Zulauf
    3. <<The German ones we had were really metal, kind of like foil,>> Aluminium, by the way _________________________ Heinz L. Zulauf Flotowstrasse 9 D-64287 Darmstadt Germany e-mail: [email protected] Visit my Private Homepage "The Classical Music Site" http://myweb.vector.ch/zulauf _________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike and Dorie Brennecke" <[email protected]> To: "Heinz L. Zulauf" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles We always had icicles from Germany to put on our tree--silvery strands about a foot long that Mom always draped in little clumps so they really looked like icicles. The ones in the US are made of plastic and just don't have the same effect because they aren't heavy enough. The German ones we had were really metal, kind of like foil, and much heavier so they hung really straight. It turned out they were leaded, and I guess they stopped making them because the lead was dangerous or something. But we loved them, and when we couldn't get them anymore, Mom used the ones we had over and over until they just fell apart! Dorie ----- Original Message ----- From: Heinz L. Zulauf <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles > <<Heinz you live in Germany, let us know what you do on Christmas evening, > or a story what come to mind, from other Christmas evenings.>> > > Katharina, > > your description is as good as it can be. It's so typical that there isn't > very much to add. > The procedure you describe used to be the same when I was a child (must be > centuries ago). The husband and the children used to sit around somewhere in > the bedroom (or any other room a family might have had) and the wife used to > prepare the tree in the living room. We didn't have candies on the tree (may > be we couldn't afford it), and some the ornaments must have been at least > one hundred years old. Electric candles just didn't exist but we had a lot > of silvery lametta (angels' hair) and wooden ornaments. We used to go to the > Christmas service at around 5 p.m. > By the way, the whole procedure is still the same, noew as our children have > left and live in their own homes. My wife and I still have a smallish > Christmas tree with real candles and lametta and my sons come to see us in > the afternoon and celebrate Christmas Eve with us. The Christmas Dinner > habits have changed a bit since money is no longer at short supply. We now > use to have a Swiss meat fondue instead of "Frankfurter" or "Wiener", but > other than this most of the traditions have survived. > Any more questions? > > Heinz > _________________________ > Heinz L. Zulauf > Flotowstrasse 9 > D-64287 Darmstadt > Germany > e-mail: [email protected] > > Visit my Private Homepage > "The Classical Music Site" > http://myweb.vector.ch/zulauf > _________________________ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Katharina Hines" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 1:07 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Real Candles > > > The town I visit last, in Hessen, they had real candles on the Christmas > tree in church for the Christmas service. > As a child our church had two very big Christmas trees in the Church. > Each one had real candles on them. > There were 3 Christmas services in the evening and one at midnight. > Before each service all new candle would be placed on the tree. > > My family also has real candles on the christmas tree. > In the States you put a tree up around Thanksgiving. > In Germany you don't buy the tree till a few days before Christmas. > As a child , I was told ' stay in your room' from late afternoon till > Christmas eve, because the Christ-child( Christkind) will come tonight. > With out you knowing, your parents prepare the Christmas tree > (Weihnachtsbaum0.The Ornaments varies from one household to an other. > Ranging from home-made, all-natural and bought ornaments. > We always had candy on the tree, the candy we could eat off the tree, till > the tree came down. We would call it "Plündern " > After sun set we would go the Church service. > After we came home, we had to wait, till all the candles on the christmas > tree where lit. Then a little bell would ring, and we could enter the Gute > Stube (living room). > The family sings Christmas carols ,read the Christmas story, or read > Christmas poems. Then the Bescherung (gift opening) got started. > After that we would eat the dinner. > Some families eat the dinner before the Bescherung. > Heinz you live in Germany, let us know what you do on Christmas evening, > or a story what come to mind, from other Christmas evenings. > > Katharina > > > >In Germany our friends don't decorate their tree until Christmas Eve and > >they > >do use real candles. Remember they are using beeswax candles which burn > >very > >slowly and don't drip much. They also only put about 12 candles on a tree > >and someone is in the room at all times when they are lit. Jerilyn > > > >Jerilyn Lappin Koskan > >Cook Co., Illinois > >[email protected] > >FTM user > > > >BREWER-Daniel Belmont, OH, Northumberland, Indiana and Jefferson, PA > >DAVIS/DAVIDSON-Marium/Mary b1803 Bucks, PA Mother Rachel Greene > >DUSATKO-Barbara, Anton late 1800s Butler, NE > >DYE-William, David, Daniel in Monroe, OH early 1800s. > >FISHER-Joseph, b abt 1805 OH, last Morgan, OH 1850. Wife Judith Lappin. > >Children John, Knight, Elizabeth, Thomas, Hannah, Mary, Rachel, Ruth > >GRAY-Ogden b 1850 Morgan, OH, d Fulton, IL. Children - Ogden, Lafayette, > >Mary A., Cornelius, Elizabeth, Rachel > >GREENE-Rachel, b abt 1770, Bucks, PA > >HANNA-Archibald, d 1793 Westmoreland, PA Children Hugh, William, Hannah, > >Mary > >(wed Robert Williams) > >KIRK-Elizabeth, Quaker, daughter Joseph Kirk/Judith Knight, wed Robert > >Lappin > >abt 1790. Chester & Fayette, PA Belmont, OH > >KOSKAN-Vaclav, b 1850s Czechoslovakia d Butler, NE > >LAPPIN-PA and OH late 1700s/1800s > >LEAK/LEEK-MD & Eastern, OH in late 1700s and 1800s > >MITCHELL-Thomas Mitchell, b 1770s Greene, PA -d Monroe, OH. Daughter Maria > >wed William Dye. > > > >MONROE-Nicholas Monroe, b PA, died Belmont, OH early 1850s. Children > >Curtis, > >William, John, Samuel, Mary (Hendershot), Eleanor (Maring), Rebecca > >(Murphy), > >Miller, George, Richard. > >MONTGOMERY-Daniel, d 1842 Vinton, OH Family to Wayne, IL Wife Alice Lappin, > >Children William, Mariah, John, Elizabeth, Rachel, Letticia, Ruth, Euphemia > >OATES-Sarah Elizabeth born Lewis, WV, adopted Samuel McCluster - to > >Decatur, > >KS Parents supposedly Elizabeth Puffenbarger/Benjamin Oates > >SLUSHER-Frederick, b PA, lived Monroe, OH, d Wayne, IL > >SMITH-Aaron 1755/Anna Foster Bucks, PA Children John, Amos, Hannah, Samuel, > >Charles, Mary > >STARBUCKS-John and Ann Lappin of Belmont, OH > >STARKEY - b 1810 PA, wed Belmont, OH > >TODD - Wm. & Rachel Lappin, d late 1800s Morgan, OH > >WADSWORTH-Alcinda, Martha, Wm., Rachel, Emily, Ruth b Belmont, OH > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _________ > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > >

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