If Fred had stopped in St.Louis we all could have boarded his motor home. I don't think Mrs. Fred would have minded a few hitchikers. He could have seen the antique car road race here also. It was in Kirkwood yesterday and featured on chanel 5. Interesting......Barbara >From: mona_houser@juno.com >Reply-To: GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com >To: GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] where is Fred >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 00:02:10 -0500 > >Seems we could gather a whole van full or more from the St. Louis area if >we decided to join the party. > >Mona >Jefferson Co., MO > >On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:09:07 EDT ESPALT@aol.com writes: > > > > I am in Fenton in St. Louis county. > > Erna > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > > Complaints: > > Contact the list administrator at: GERMAN-LIFE-L-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > > #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > >==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== >GERMAN-FOOD-L@rootsweb.com to subscribe send a message to: >GERMAN-FOOD-L-request@rootsweb.com > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Saw that subject line and thought it was about candy. :-)) Mona ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Here's the message that I"ve been saving, and wishing I could attend. Mona --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Leslie A. Riggle" <lesrig@feist.com> To: "Larry Messer" <lamesser@uswest.net> Cc: Pommern-L@genealogy.net Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 16:05:27 -0700 Subject: RE: Pommern Tag Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000530160527.007c4100@feist.com> References: <200005291730.NAA23779@tisch.mail.mindspring.net> Hello Larry, You asked: >When and where is Pommern Tag? First of all, do not confuse this with the Pommerntage (plural), or Pommerntreffen, that is held every two years in Greifswald in Vorpommern. The Pommerntag Mary Ann Conklin was speaking of is the one sponsored by Pommerscher Verein Freistadt. It is a one-day affair held on the last Sunday of June. This year it will be held at Mequon City Park in Mequon, Wisconsin. We will have continuous entertainment with music by the Alte Kameraden Brass Band and Pomeranian folk dancing by Pommersche Tanzdeel Freistadt. There will be cultural and genealogical exhibits and German food. Also, the best beer this side of Munich will be available. Activities will begin at noon and will continue until about five. There will be a flag raising of the American and Pomeranian flags and we will sing "The Star Spangled Banner" and "Das Pommernlied". Martha and I expect to be there and so do several other members of Pommern-L. Les Riggle ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

In a message dated 06/21/2001 9:44:43 AM Mountain Daylight Time, kcook@signalgraphics-hou.com writes: > <<Call it Coors.>> CALL IT "ROCKY MOUNTAIN KOOL-ADE !!" ) Well, whatever. Dave Ross

Fred: One thing to do when you hit our altitude is drink plenty of water !! Dave Ross, Denver

Yeah, the can it up there. Call it Coors. Klaus Dieter Cook Houston, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: <Newtross@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] New Game...In Fred's Honor > Fred: One thing to do when you hit our altitude is drink plenty of water !! > > Dave Ross, Denver > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this mail list send a message to: > GERMAN-LIFE-L-request@rootsweb.com and in the message add the word UNSUBSCRIBE and send. > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

On 20 Jun 2001, at 11:57, Gail Meyer Kilgore wrote: > He won't tell us when he is going to be in Colorado as he is going to > NM too. :-) Today was another wonderful day here in Hannibal. We took the tram tour of the city sites and jumped off at the old city art where Mark Twain used to hang out. It was quite fascinating as to what the city has to offer. I didn't even know Twain wrote THAT many books. They had complete sets of his works there which must have 5 to 6 feet long in their shelves. One lives and earns. We walked down to the big river wharf where it all happened for Twain and then ate in a very bucolic old style restaurant. I had the Twain Superburger. The whole thing brought back tidbits of memories of times when I read the various stories of Twain. I must say it's all still a bit mixed up. I don't even know where and when I read these things. It must have been in Germany and in German of course. he caves don't come to mind at all and yet Becky and Huck went there a lot to explore but I keep confusing Huck with Tom Sawyer. Twain is typically Tom and Huck a composite of three other kids Twain knew as a boy. I can could and still can identify with the characters as I went through a lot of it myself as a boy. Most do I guess. The situations might have been different but the expereinces still very much the same because we all got into trouble with the powers to be. I could describe in some detail the old war-crippled professor who would walk 5 KM to teach my sister and I some English. My parents hired him out of their meager resources as refugees but still wanting us to have a head start in our new country. Well, I used to spie and had other help me with signals as to when the professor would arrive. I was not permitted out and had to wait. With his arrival I'd be out the window more often then not as I simply couldn't stand his English lessons and in genral was not one for school - period. I just liked to read a lot all on my wn and what interested me. I guess I was into Huck Finn back then and got my ideas from him. :-) Seriously, much f what I imagined America to be was from such stories and they must have been Twain. I mean I thought all the houses were on a river and had big white columns and large driveways with big trees on each side. It was a very romantic imagery of the old south. I must have gotten it from Twain but I just can't remember the details. One can imagine the surprise when I met my first row houses in Philadelphia. THIS is America with everything stuck together? But one gets used to reality rather quickly. In the moring we're off to Columbia t witness the great cross country antique car race or ralley. They'll have 110 old classics there around lunch. They'll stop and their drivers get some refeshments (lunch) and then they move on. It's all by the clock and should be very interesting. The day after we'll be going out to dinner in an old bordello and then we'll see 'Mame' in the Columbia local repertory theater. Saturday it's off to Sedalia where well over 1000 coaches made by Newmar will be assembling for a rally of birds who fly together. That will last a week. Part of the program we signed up for is a train trip to Jefferson City where we'll get a city tour and stop for lunch in a German restaurant in town. I'll report more on that as it happens. Once were done with Sedalia we'll be off to Golden where the idea is simply to get used to the elevation a few feet at a time. We'll probably only stay a day or two and then get up high in Breckenridge where we hope not to get the headaches we had on an earlier trip to the Grand canyon and other places. Does anyone have any good medicine against altitude sickness> I asked the guy at the drugstore when I picked up my bee sting stuff and he said to just take Sudafed. Breckenridge will be a longer stay with various trip planned up and down the mountain sides. There are also train rides on the agenda. Same in Durango. From there it's oof to Chama, NM and then some other place and eventually Santa Fe. Fred

When I first got my computer and started genealogy, I spent so much time surfing the internet (I was off work for 2 weeks due to foot surgery) that my dreams were all in internet format--pages and pages on a screen! It was really weird! Dorie ----- Original Message ----- From: Tina McGarry <tmccain@us.inter.net> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] sleep vs genealogy > > Mona: It's even WORSE when the genealogy gets in the way of SLEEPING !! > > > > Dave Ross > > You are so right Mona! > I can't even do my genealogy before bedtime. I have spent many nights > wandering through the library looking for a book I can never find, driving > about rural MO looking for my ancestors farm or trying to fill out family > group sheets and then I can't remember how to write! I wake up feeling as if > I had no sleep what-so-ever. Gotta put those files aside at least an hour > before hitting the hay! > > Tina > > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from digest mode send a message to: > GERMAN-LIFE-D-request@rootsweb.com and add the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the message and send. > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

Thank you, Klaus. I assume there is still a German mint in Wien, but it is not making Deutschmarks. I wish I had gotten some Austrian coins, maybe that would have been possible in Liechtenstein. I think of Austria as being German too, although I have read that Wien is an international city. Also Alsace/Lorraine - my trip to Germany also included Strassbourg, although, strangely enough, they did not understand my Deutsch there. My language requirement at the University of Minnesota was completed by my four years of High School German und two German history courses. One was on Germany from 1648 to 1870, which greatly involved Österreich, at least until the end. The other course I took was Austrian History from 1918 to present. I was in favor of the Anschluss, but not the fact that it took place under Nazi rule. At one point, it seemed as though the Habsburgs of Austria would rule all of Europe - they ruled the Holy Roman Empire, the Austo-Hungarian Empire, the Spanish throne und the Netherlands. France und England were able to break up this coalition. The infamous or famous French Queen Marie Antoinette was also a Habsburg. Thomas Koch ----- Original Message ----- From: Klaus Dieter Cook <kcook@signalgraphics-hou.com> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:47 PM Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Mint Marks on German Coins > Tom Koch raised the question last night why the German mints were not > identified by the first letter of their respective cities, i.e. Berlin is A, > why not B - Hamburg is J, why not H. > > Way back into the empire days the German mints were named in alphabetical > order. So that A (the first one) was Berlin, B was Hanover, and so forth. > One of the German mints was even in Vienna and took the mint mark of the > Hanover mint (B). The letters we have now (A,D,F,G,J) are the mints that are > remaining, i.e.. B,C,E and H are no longer minting coins or printing > currency. > > The only deactivated mints that I could find out about was B-Hanover and > E-Muldenhütten near Dresden. The latter of the two was pressed into service > again during the division of Germany and minted coins for the DDR for > approx. 5 years. (And before someone asks - the other DDR mint was located > in Berlin and had a mint mark of A). > > Klaus Dieter Cook, > Houston, Texas > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this mail list send a message to: > GERMAN-LIFE-L-request@rootsweb.com and in the message add the word UNSUBSCRIBE and send. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Actually, I mean "where" is this Pommern Tag? Milwaukee? What does it involve? Pommern is a little bit East for me. My people were all Rhinelanders, west und south, except for three unknowns - Kahler, Rudolph und Koster, the last two presumed to be Prussian. Thomas Koch, half a day from Milwaukee ----- Original Message ----- From: <mona_houser@juno.com> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] New Game...In Fred's Honor > So why aren't we all in WI this week-end for the Pommern Tag? > >:-(( Same reason we aren't on our way to CO. > > It's sad when our work gets in the way of our genealogy. > > Mona > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:08:26 EDT Newtross@aol.com writes: > > Mona: Get withn the others in that area on the FRONTIER flight !! > > > > Dave Ross > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > GERMAN-FOOD-L@rootsweb.com to subscribe send a message to: > GERMAN-FOOD-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Dave, I had already thought of making myself available to be "collected" in Missouri as it is just a few hours north of me. BUT as I have plans to go south to Ft. Worth this weekend, I guess I will have to hitch a ride next year. (Fred, are you paying attention?!!) It really would be great to meet up with everyone. I enjoy our friendship and fun immensely. Theola ----- Original Message ----- From: <Newtross@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] New Game...In Fred's Honor | Theola, et al.: Maybe Fred could pick up all the listers along the way and | we could have one HUGE German get-together here in Colorado !! | | Dave Ross | | ______________________________

Fred, ...I'm glad you can see where you're driving!!! :-) Theola ***************************************************** | I still have this huge bag under my eye but my sight is normal | again. Quite a relief as I can see what I type. | | Fred | | ______________________________

Seems we could gather a whole van full or more from the St. Louis area if we decided to join the party. Mona Jefferson Co., MO On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:09:07 EDT ESPALT@aol.com writes: > > I am in Fenton in St. Louis county. > Erna > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Complaints: > Contact the list administrator at: GERMAN-LIFE-L-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I am in Fenton in St. Louis county. Erna

Tom Koch raised the question last night why the German mints were not identified by the first letter of their respective cities, i.e. Berlin is A, why not B - Hamburg is J, why not H. Way back into the empire days the German mints were named in alphabetical order. So that A (the first one) was Berlin, B was Hanover, and so forth. One of the German mints was even in Vienna and took the mint mark of the Hanover mint (B). The letters we have now (A,D,F,G,J) are the mints that are remaining, i.e.. B,C,E and H are no longer minting coins or printing currency. The only deactivated mints that I could find out about was B-Hanover and E-Muldenhütten near Dresden. The latter of the two was pressed into service again during the division of Germany and minted coins for the DDR for approx. 5 years. (And before someone asks - the other DDR mint was located in Berlin and had a mint mark of A). Klaus Dieter Cook, Houston, Texas

> Mona: It's even WORSE when the genealogy gets in the way of SLEEPING !! > > Dave Ross You are so right Mona! I can't even do my genealogy before bedtime. I have spent many nights wandering through the library looking for a book I can never find, driving about rural MO looking for my ancestors farm or trying to fill out family group sheets and then I can't remember how to write! I wake up feeling as if I had no sleep what-so-ever. Gotta put those files aside at least an hour before hitting the hay! Tina

> >It's even WORSE when the genealogy gets in the way of SLEEPING !! > > Dave Ross > Dave: You have it wrong. It's worse when SLEEPING gets in the way > of genealogy! > Lois Yep, Lois, that's how it is here, too. Mona ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Well, Lois, you're not wrong !! I've been at it here at the key-punch beast since 3:45 this AM !! Dave Ross

In a message dated 6/20/2001 5:04:54 PM Central Daylight Time, Newtross@aol.com writes: > Mona: It's even WORSE when the genealogy gets in the way of SLEEPING !! > > Dave Ross > > Dave: You have it wrong. It's worse when SLEEPING gets in the way of genealogy! Lois

Mona: It's even WORSE when the genealogy gets in the way of SLEEPING !! Dave Ross In a message dated 06/20/2001 2:29:47 PM Mountain Daylight Time, mona_houser@juno.com writes: > So why aren't we all in WI this week-end for the Pommern Tag? > > :-(( Same reason we aren't on our way to CO. > > It's sad when our work gets in the way of our genealogy. > > Mona > David and Carol (Benck) Ross Surnames for David Newton Ross; Denver, CO NEWTROSS@aol.com Ross (both sides); Owen; Wright (end of great-grandparent surnames): Alt; Bacher; Beckett; Bishop; Blue; Broad; Burton; Cole; Colonii/Colonius; Cooper; Critton/Critten; Damen; Deaver/Dever/Devor; Dechant/Dechen/Dechent; Dennis; Diebold/Debold; Dietrich; Demmitt/Dimmitt; Fox (Vogt); Frame; Franck; Frey; Garrett; Garth; Gies; Grimmel; Haas; Haggerty; Hawkins; Hehl/Heel; Heinemann; Hemler; Henry; Holzhausen; Jack; Jakobi/Jacoby; Jockers ; Johnson; Jones; Kirchhofer/Kirchhofter; La Roux/La Rue; Lane; Laubenstein; Laubscher; Leitner/Lightner; Loy/Leÿ; Lubberger; Mantz; Martense; Massey; Miller; Müll; Musser; Nesen/Schunck; Niese (a form of Nesen); Ogden; Parks; Parrish; Perrine/Prine; Proctor; Rambler/Rammler; Reed; Sale; Sharpe; Sharrett; Shell/Sheel; Shultz; Simonton; Smith; Sontag; Spriggs; Steurer; Stone; Treon/Trion/Drion; Trout/Troud/Traudt; Tutt; Usile; Vogt (Fox); Walker; Wallauer/Wallaner; Waters; Witt; Zoll Surnames for Carol M. (Benck) Ross (same e-mail address) Ackermann, Auler, Bauer, Baumann, Benck, Benker, Brauer, Brechwalt, Bruhn, Crackow, Dietel, Doehler/Dohler/Döhla/Döla, Ebels, Edelmann, Eiden, Elling, Erdmann, Evert(s), Fabig, Fehres, Fischer, Frehse, Grewe/Greve, Grube, Gruber, Gundlach, Haase, Haidig, Harder, Hartleb, Hertrich, Höffter, Höpner, Jarchow, Joern/Jörn, Junger, Katers, Kayser, Keppel, Kich, Kielgast, Kießling, Klemm, Knoll, Koch/Kock, Kriegling/Kritzlin, Krumm, Lang, Lauer, Linow, Möller/Müller, Peltzer, Petri/Petry, Pfeufer, Putz, Reinhardt, Rössler, Rübel, Rüp, Schiffmann, Schmidt, Schneider, Schroeder/Schröder, Schwab, Seiferth/Seifert, Sittig, Steiner, Taubmann, Thiel, Wagner, Wehrmann