Hi Theola, Save traveling! Happy visiting! Let us know when you are back! All the best to you Mona On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:12:14 -0700 "Theola Walden Baker" <bakermail@alltel.net> writes: > Best Friends, One and All, > > Starting Saturday morning, I will be off-list for the next 10-14 > days--going > to visit the old hometown of Ft. Worth, TX. > > I will have intermittent access to a 'puter throughout my stay. If > you need > to/would care to contact me, I can be found at miezekatze@msn.com > > Love yourselves and each other while I'm gone, for I will surely be > thinking > of you (and wondering what I am missing...and "Where, oh where, Fred > Is" > <G>). > > Theola > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <GERMAN-LIFE-D-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <GERMAN-LIFE-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:30 PM > Subject: GERMAN-LIFE-D Digest V01 #231 > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this mail list send a message to: > GERMAN-LIFE-L-request@rootsweb.com and in the message add the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and send. > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & > Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I think it balance the pH in the body. An old doctor told me to try it. Bev -----Original Message----- From: Mark Overlock [mailto:markme59@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 3:12 PM To: GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] altitude sickness Vinegar for altitude sickness? How would that help? Mark **************************************************** Get paid cash every time you receive email! I do! Sign up FREE at: http://www.MintMail.com/?m=673399 **************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. Fred Rump" <FredRump@earthlink.net> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 22 June, 2001 05:12 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] altitude sickness > On 21 Jun 2001, at 21:46, Gail Meyer Kilgore wrote: > > > Drink some vinegar..... > > Yuck. Are you serious? > > Fred > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Complaints: > Contact the list administrator at: GERMAN-LIFE-L-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE from digest mode send a message to: GERMAN-LIFE-D-request@rootsweb.com and add the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the message and send. ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

I think our autos have been wrapped up into the whole American notion of freedom and independance - going where you want, when you want. Who wants to check some bus and train schedule to see how to get somewhere and then wait for the bus and train in 100+ summer weather? This seems to be the attitude when I've been privy to such discussions. Here in Houston, "light rail" as it is called, is contantly under attack and only recently has a small line been approved that will run through the hospital district to downtown. The construction is a mess, buildings and roads have been ripped up, the costs are astronomical and it will take years to complete. It's a hard sell and it's just too bad that city planners didn't do it while the city was expanding. My Mom just called from her cell phone. She's in a rental car on her way downtown to pick up her newly repaired vehicle from the Range Rover (lol) dealership. She's been stuck on I-10 for an hour. So much for freedom. Tina ----- Original Message ----- From: CJ Lisa <cjlisa@worldnet.att.net> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] German walking habits; transportation > Maybe this was all designed for the American public to buy cars (many years > ago) and put trains out of business. Ford was no idiot -- his first sales > market was his own employees. It doesn't seem to me (especially today)that > there is much social conscience when it comes to making money. What is best > for the people is not what is best when greed is involved. > > As a child and teen I lived in a city environment in New Jersey and had the > conveniences of avenues with local stores where you would see neighbors and > friends when you walked the avenue. Bus transportation was incredible -- > they ran so often to the next towns or to New York City. City life was not > a life of deprivation as some would have you believe. My grandparents had a > summer home in a wooded area and on a lake -- which eventually became a > year-round home -- and which is now my home. It's beautiful and peaceful, > but it takes a half hour to get to any store that doesn't exist nearby. > Buses are inconvenient and forget about going to NY on one. They stop > running after 12 midnight. There used to be trains and train tracks here -- > and people would commute to NY on them. They were pulled out 40 years ago. > > I just returned from Switzerland and it seems that the design of the towns > was similar to the design of the city in NJ where I lived, houses clustered > around the main street which contained the shopping areas, parks > interspersed, and transportation around the perimeters. Interestingly, the > NJ town was probably designed by Germans as I understand the original > incorp. papers were in German and predominantly occupied by Swiss and > German. > > I wish we had the trains and mass transport that is in Switzerland, but that > would mean razing bldgs and housing and roads so that trains could come back > into the towns -- and the American people are too used to jumping into their > cars -- it would mean a change in mental attitude and a new way of living. > Carpooling didn't work for the majority. > > I would love to live in Switzerland for 1 year just to get back in shape > again. I walked so much when I was there, exploring each town that I was > in -- it was wonderful. For some reason, I don't seem to have the time > here. > Claire > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Koch" <ferdinad@omnitelcom.com> > To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 6:10 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] German walking habits > > > > The thing is, our workplaces, shopping und family are becoming further > > away, because the automobile makes this possible. Thus making life very > > difficult without it. Urban sprawl is not inevitable, but rather a result > of > > our planning, or lack of planning, that makes our cities grow that way. If > > you added up all the acreage that is devoted to parking lots und highways > in > > this country, how much would that total area be? The size of England at > > leat. > > > > Thomas Koch > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mike and Dorie Brennecke <doitnow@netins.net> > > To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 9:40 AM > > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] German walking habits > > > > > > > I think that our workplaces and shopping areas in the US are so far from > > > home that it makes it rather unrealistic to think of walking instead of > > > driving. Everything is so much bigger here, and spread out, while in > > Europe > > > there is less land and the population is more concentrated, so things > are > > > closer to home. Plus, we are just too "busy" in our lives. On top of > > that, > > > we have developed such a fascination our cars, unfortunately! > > > Dorie > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Christine Bailey <r.bailey@home.com> > > > To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 10:54 AM > > > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] German walking habits > > > > > > > > > > I'm really not sure what it's like in the cities in the states but > here > > in > > > > Calgary we have tons of walking/biking trails. How ever I believe > that > > > > because the U.S. and Canada have really gone away from the small > > > > neighborhood shops, unlike in Germany, and to the many chain stores, > > that > > > > seem to congregate in one commercial area we've lost a great deal. In > > my > > > > area of the city I don't even have a 7-11 to go to. It takes me ten > > > minutes > > > > just to drive to the nearest grocery store and about 20 to get to the > > > > nearest mall. What do you all think? > > > > > > > > Chris, > > > > Calgary, Ab > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Karin Book" <karin4467@yahoo.com> > > > > To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:13 AM > > > > Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] German walking habits > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although I can't speak for all Germans, I know that my > > > > > family walks much more than the average American here > > > > > does. 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Maybe this was all designed for the American public to buy cars (many years ago) and put trains out of business. Ford was no idiot -- his first sales market was his own employees. It doesn't seem to me (especially today)that there is much social conscience when it comes to making money. What is best for the people is not what is best when greed is involved. As a child and teen I lived in a city environment in New Jersey and had the conveniences of avenues with local stores where you would see neighbors and friends when you walked the avenue. Bus transportation was incredible -- they ran so often to the next towns or to New York City. City life was not a life of deprivation as some would have you believe. My grandparents had a summer home in a wooded area and on a lake -- which eventually became a year-round home -- and which is now my home. It's beautiful and peaceful, but it takes a half hour to get to any store that doesn't exist nearby. Buses are inconvenient and forget about going to NY on one. They stop running after 12 midnight. There used to be trains and train tracks here -- and people would commute to NY on them. They were pulled out 40 years ago. I just returned from Switzerland and it seems that the design of the towns was similar to the design of the city in NJ where I lived, houses clustered around the main street which contained the shopping areas, parks interspersed, and transportation around the perimeters. Interestingly, the NJ town was probably designed by Germans as I understand the original incorp. papers were in German and predominantly occupied by Swiss and German. I wish we had the trains and mass transport that is in Switzerland, but that would mean razing bldgs and housing and roads so that trains could come back into the towns -- and the American people are too used to jumping into their cars -- it would mean a change in mental attitude and a new way of living. Carpooling didn't work for the majority. I would love to live in Switzerland for 1 year just to get back in shape again. I walked so much when I was there, exploring each town that I was in -- it was wonderful. For some reason, I don't seem to have the time here. Claire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Koch" <ferdinad@omnitelcom.com> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] German walking habits > The thing is, our workplaces, shopping und family are becoming further > away, because the automobile makes this possible. Thus making life very > difficult without it. Urban sprawl is not inevitable, but rather a result of > our planning, or lack of planning, that makes our cities grow that way. If > you added up all the acreage that is devoted to parking lots und highways in > this country, how much would that total area be? The size of England at > leat. > > Thomas Koch > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike and Dorie Brennecke <doitnow@netins.net> > To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] German walking habits > > > > I think that our workplaces and shopping areas in the US are so far from > > home that it makes it rather unrealistic to think of walking instead of > > driving. Everything is so much bigger here, and spread out, while in > Europe > > there is less land and the population is more concentrated, so things are > > closer to home. Plus, we are just too "busy" in our lives. On top of > that, > > we have developed such a fascination our cars, unfortunately! > > Dorie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Christine Bailey <r.bailey@home.com> > > To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 10:54 AM > > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] German walking habits > > > > > > > I'm really not sure what it's like in the cities in the states but here > in > > > Calgary we have tons of walking/biking trails. How ever I believe that > > > because the U.S. and Canada have really gone away from the small > > > neighborhood shops, unlike in Germany, and to the many chain stores, > that > > > seem to congregate in one commercial area we've lost a great deal. In > my > > > area of the city I don't even have a 7-11 to go to. It takes me ten > > minutes > > > just to drive to the nearest grocery store and about 20 to get to the > > > nearest mall. What do you all think? > > > > > > Chris, > > > Calgary, Ab > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Karin Book" <karin4467@yahoo.com> > > > To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:13 AM > > > Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] German walking habits > > > > > > > > > > Although I can't speak for all Germans, I know that my > > > > family walks much more than the average American here > > > > does. 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Thanks Klaus -- my email piled up and I did find out what that was about. Instead of reading from the oldest to the newest -- I've been doing reverse. Claire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klaus Dieter Cook" <kcook@signalgraphics-hou.com> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 9:06 PM Subject: Re: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Gas Prices That's that funny dollar that they use north of the border up in Canada. Klaus Dieter Cook Houston, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "CJ Lisa" <cjlisa@worldnet.att.net> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Gas Prices > Hi could someone please explain what the C$ is -- is that the Euro $ or is > Euro $ something else again. BTW I was just in Switzerland and the xchange > rate was US 1$ - CHF 1.78 (Swiss Francs) Now I'm sorry that I didn't spend > some time in Germany as well. > > Thanks > Claire > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <lumby@air.on.ca> > To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 6:02 PM > Subject: Fwd: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Gas Prices > > > >Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:58:31 -0400 > >To: "Heinz L. Zulauf" <zulauf@bigfoot.de> > >From: lumby@air.on.ca > >Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Gas Prices > > > >Well, lets see, Heinz > > > >According to the Toronto Globe and Mail the following are Saturday, > exchange rates: > > > >1 US $ = C$ 1.52 > >1 C $ = US $ .66 > > > >1 DM = C$ .67 > >1 C$ = DM 1.48 > > > >1US $ = DM 2.26 > >1 DM = US$ .4414 > > > >The exchange rate of the US vs C $ is why I spend my holidays in Germansy > rather than the US. While the C$ sank drastically compared to the US $, it > stayed the same as it has for the last 5 years against the Deutsche Mark. > > > >The other reason became evident this year, when my wife Sonja had an > accident on the same day we arrived in Stuttgard, and had to spend two days > in the Böblingen Krieskrankenhaus for tests. The entire stay, plus a > battery of tests,(she was considered "Privat") came to less that C$ 1400.00. > >I shudder to think what it would have cost in the US. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >At 11:37 PM 6/18/01 +0200, you wrote: > >>Would be great Ralf, please do. > >>_________________________ > >>Heinz L. Zulauf > >>Flotowstrasse 9 > >>D-64287 Darmstadt > >>Germany > >>zulauf@bigfoot.de > >>_______________________ > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: <lumby@air.on.ca> > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Check the German Food list out at: > GERMAN-FOOD-L@rootsweb.com to subscribe send a message to: > GERMAN-FOOD-L-request@rootsweb.com and add the word SUBSCRIBE in the > message and send. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > GERMAN-FOOD-L@rootsweb.com to subscribe send a message to: > GERMAN-FOOD-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE from digest mode send a message to: GERMAN-LIFE-D-request@rootsweb.com and add the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the message and send. ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

My thoughts about living in and visiting Germany. It was in November of 1962 that I found out that I was being transferred from Toronto, Canada, to Cologne (Koeln) Germany. We left Canada shortly after New Years day to New York where we boarded the SS United States for its next trip to Bremerhaven. With us we had our eight month old daughter, Karen. The ship had just returned from the Carribean Sea, where it had been battered by a tropical storm, and all was not ship shape. In addition, crossing the North Atlantic in January, was not at all something to look forward to, and we were right. The ship sped up during the night and slowed down during the day. It didn't matter, Sonja and I both lay in bed most of the days, just to keep everything down. What upset us even more was Karen, our daughter, stood in the crib, bouncing up and down, thoroughly enjoying herself. We landed in Bremerhaven and next day boarded the train to Koeln. My first impressions of Germany were helped by the fact that Sonja was completely fluent in German, albeit with a southern dialect. As we travelled on the very fast European train, down from the north, I was struck by the buildings still in ruins from the war, along some portions of the RR line. We spent the next three months living on the 12 floor of the Bull Building in Koeln/Muelheim. First things first, of course. We bought a used Ford Opel Caravan. and within a month had ventured out on the Autobahn, south past Limburg, Frankfurt, Mannheim, cut off on the AB to Heidelburg, through Sinsheim and finally to Heilbronn, and my Mother-in-law, Wilma Eble, in Heilbronn/Sontheim. The first thing Sonja said to me when we arrived at the house where she spent her youth, on the outskirts of Sontheim, was "The house and property don't look as big as I remember them." What do I remember about my first trip on the Autobahn? German drivers were CRAZY. There was no speed limit on the autobahn back then. (There is now, but no on pays any attention to it). I learned very soon, that when you passed someone, you had to do it very quickly, because those blinking headlights 3to 4 kms behind you in the passing lane, was probably a huge Mercedes Benz,, telling you to get the hell out of the way, because everyone should know, you do not impede a person in a very large, expensive car on the Autobahn. I then found out how big a Merc looked when it was only about 1cm from my bumper. This rather frightening habit of blinking headlights and tailgaiting was made illegal sometime between the time we left Germany in 1971, and when we went back in 1994. Thank God. It was however, also made illegal to impede traffic in the passing lane. When you want to pass, you had to do it quickly, in and out. When I took to the autobahn when we returned in 1995, I was ready to get back on the plane and go back to Canada. They were still crazy. I found out, however, if you can make through the first three days of driving, and you learn their rules (not the legal rules, the "in practice rules" ) then you are able to drive comfortably because you become as crazy as they are. Back in the 60s there were only half the number of autobahns that there are today, and half the traffic. The most dangerous part of driving on the autobahn back then was rounding a curve or over a slight rise, and finding traffic stacked up for kilometers. Today, of course, the central Radio network reports every fifteen minutes on the "Stau" throughout Germany. i.e. translated into English) "-on the Autobahn # -- between Munich and Augsburg there is a 15km long stau". At any given time throughout Germany there are about 5-10 "Stau". All I can advise is that unless you absolutely must, stay off the autobahn, and see the real Germany on the secondary roads. Back to my story. About three months after we arrived in Koeln, we were transferred to Munich, where we lived until 1967. Two of our daughters were born in Munich and are therefor both original "Münchner Kindl". When I think back now, I truly believe that Munich was the nicest city in which we have ever lived. (Perhaps Ottawa, Ontario, runs a close second.) During our stay in Munich, we were very close to the German culture of Bavaria and southern Germany, and I came to love it very dearly. The life style was very attractive. the customs extremely interesting and memorable and the beer great. The Octoberfest in Munich (held in September) was one of the most interesting phenomenon in which I have ever overindulged, but wouldn't have missed my three years involvement in trying to have a krug in each tent. To bring this to an end, I will say that the thing that impressed me the most about Germany in the 60s was that in the cities and elsewhere, a person could walk through a park at any time , day or night, and never have any fear of being attacked. This was a sentiment that was expressed by all persons visiting from North America. Whether it is the same today, I don't know, since I stay away from the big cities. Too much traffic, resulting in too many "Stau". Enough is now enough. Best Regards. Ralf

I'm really ignorant here and would like to be enlightened on what the background and translation of Pommern Tag is? Thanks Claire ----- Original Message ----- From: <mona_houser@juno.com> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 2:49 PM Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Fw: RE: Pommern Tag > Here's the message that I"ve been saving, and wishing I could attend. > > Mona > > > --------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Leslie A. Riggle" <lesrig@feist.com> > To: "Larry Messer" <lamesser@uswest.net> > Cc: Pommern-L@genealogy.net > Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 16:05:27 -0700 > Subject: RE: Pommern Tag > Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000530160527.007c4100@feist.com> > References: <200005291730.NAA23779@tisch.mail.mindspring.net> > > Hello Larry, > > You asked: > > >When and where is Pommern Tag? > > First of all, do not confuse this with the Pommerntage (plural), or > Pommerntreffen, that is held every two years in Greifswald in Vorpommern. > > The CPommerntag Mary Ann Conklin was speaking of is the one sponsored by > Pommerscher Verein Freistadt. It is a one-day affair held on the last > Sunday of June. This year it will be held at Mequon City Park in Mequon, > Wisconsin. We will have continuous entertainment with music by the Alte > Kameraden Brass Band and Pomeranian folk dancing by Pommersche Tanzdeel > Freistadt. There will be cultural and genealogical exhibits and German > food. Also, the best beer this side of Munich will be available. > > Activities will begin at noon and will continue until about five. There > will be a flag raising of the American and Pomeranian flags and we will > sing "The Star Spangled Banner" and "Das Pommernlied". > > Martha and I expect to be there and so do several other members of > Pommern-L. > > Les Riggle > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Complaints: > Contact the list administrator at: GERMAN-LIFE-L-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

Hey Fred -- sounds like you are having a great time!! Claire ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. Fred Rump" <FredRump@earthlink.net> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] the Great America Race > On 21 Jun 2001, at 12:05, Newtross@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 06/21/2001 9:44:43 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > > kcook@signalgraphics-hou.com writes: > > > > > > > <<Call it Coors.>> CALL IT "ROCKY MOUNTAIN KOOL-ADE !!" ) > > Well, whatever. > > > I'll tell you guys something. No way am I going to touch a drop of > alcohol in that for us unusually high athmosphere. I spent time at a > meeting once in Timberland Lodge on Mt Hood. Had a Gin & Tonic > and felt pretty good. Had another one and thought I was going to > die. :-) I became unbelievably sick and had a hangover which cured > any further such adventures with even limited alcohol intake. > > In the Grand Canyon area I also got sick, was vomiting like crazy > and had one hell of a smashing headache to boot. No alcohol there > - just too much thin air. :-) > > This time around I'd like to take precautions and I'll go with plenty > of water for now. > > While I'm here - today we arrived in Columbia and witnessed the > lunch break for the www.GreatAmerica.com race from Atlanta to > Pasadena. We spoke with some of the drivers and took lots of > pictures. There were all kinds of cars involved from a 1949 VW to > those big giant road and racing machines of the 1910s. It had been > raining earlier and these open air cars present a special challenge > to the drivers and navigators. The directions sort of bleed in the > rain. It's all about accurate speedometers, odometers and clocks. > Top prize is $250,000. Basic entry fee is $5K, a sponsorship is > $10K. With expenses we figured that you can't run the race for less > then $25-30K. > > The team my friend was taking to lunch as a sponsor was on the > third of three water pumps and they were just hoping that their > three mechanics could either locate another one of fix one f the old > ones. All the critical parts which drive the cars have to be original. > > But I can tell you this, those cars all purred like little kittens. They > probably run better now then they did brand new. They are babied > nd rebuilt while the driver/navigator team sleeps each night. > > Fred > > > PS BTW the History Channel is the main sponsor of this annual > event and they show this on TV also but I don't know when. > > > > PPS I just read through the program book we bought. There are no > odometers allowed but the speedometers are accurate to 1/4 of a > mile per hour. Tires are nitrogen gfilled to avoid heat expansion and > changing the circumference. Engines are supertuned to run cleaner > then today's modern cars without any of the electronics. There are > no electronic anything permitted. > > Brakes are hydrolic for safety. Seatbelts are also a new addition. > The race is really better called a timed endurance rally-race where > seconds matter. The daily winner may have a few seconds over his > next rival in accurate timing. All cars are times electronically at > various checkpoints using Qualcomm equipment tied to a > central computer database. > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Complaints: > Contact the list administrator at: GERMAN-LIFE-L-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

On 21 Jun 2001, at 12:05, Newtross@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 06/21/2001 9:44:43 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > kcook@signalgraphics-hou.com writes: > > > > <<Call it Coors.>> CALL IT "ROCKY MOUNTAIN KOOL-ADE !!" ) > Well, whatever. I'll tell you guys something. No way am I going to touch a drop of alcohol in that for us unusually high athmosphere. I spent time at a meeting once in Timberland Lodge on Mt Hood. Had a Gin & Tonic and felt pretty good. Had another one and thought I was going to die. :-) I became unbelievably sick and had a hangover which cured any further such adventures with even limited alcohol intake. In the Grand Canyon area I also got sick, was vomiting like crazy and had one hell of a smashing headache to boot. No alcohol there - just too much thin air. :-) This time around I'd like to take precautions and I'll go with plenty of water for now. While I'm here - today we arrived in Columbia and witnessed the lunch break for the www.GreatAmerica.com race from Atlanta to Pasadena. We spoke with some of the drivers and took lots of pictures. There were all kinds of cars involved from a 1949 VW to those big giant road and racing machines of the 1910s. It had been raining earlier and these open air cars present a special challenge to the drivers and navigators. The directions sort of bleed in the rain. It's all about accurate speedometers, odometers and clocks. Top prize is $250,000. Basic entry fee is $5K, a sponsorship is $10K. With expenses we figured that you can't run the race for less then $25-30K. The team my friend was taking to lunch as a sponsor was on the third of three water pumps and they were just hoping that their three mechanics could either locate another one of fix one f the old ones. All the critical parts which drive the cars have to be original. But I can tell you this, those cars all purred like little kittens. They probably run better now then they did brand new. They are babied nd rebuilt while the driver/navigator team sleeps each night. Fred PS BTW the History Channel is the main sponsor of this annual event and they show this on TV also but I don't know when. PPS I just read through the program book we bought. There are no odometers allowed but the speedometers are accurate to 1/4 of a mile per hour. Tires are nitrogen gfilled to avoid heat expansion and changing the circumference. Engines are supertuned to run cleaner then today's modern cars without any of the electronics. There are no electronic anything permitted. Brakes are hydrolic for safety. Seatbelts are also a new addition. The race is really better called a timed endurance rally-race where seconds matter. The daily winner may have a few seconds over his next rival in accurate timing. All cars are times electronically at various checkpoints using Qualcomm equipment tied to a central computer database.

On 21 Jun 2001, at 19:10, Barbara Heiles wrote: > > If Fred had stopped in St.Louis we all could have boarded his motor > home. I don't think Mrs. Fred would have minded a few hitchikers. He > could have seen the antique car road race here also. It was in > Kirkwood yesterday and featured on chanel 5. Interesting......Barbara Let me see what will happen on our return trip. Maybe we can actually meet in St. Louis. Seems like a bunch of folks live in the neighborhood. I've never been up on the Arch and our grand daughter would certainly like the experience. Who is all near St Louis? Fred

..Or form a blockade to stop Fred! <G> Theola | Seems we could gather a whole van full or more from the St. Louis area if | we decided to join the party. | | Mona | Jefferson Co., MO |

Best Friends, One and All, Starting Saturday morning, I will be off-list for the next 10-14 days--going to visit the old hometown of Ft. Worth, TX. I will have intermittent access to a 'puter throughout my stay. If you need to/would care to contact me, I can be found at miezekatze@msn.com Love yourselves and each other while I'm gone, for I will surely be thinking of you (and wondering what I am missing...and "Where, oh where, Fred Is" <G>). Theola ----- Original Message ----- From: <GERMAN-LIFE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 11:30 PM Subject: GERMAN-LIFE-D Digest V01 #231

Dave, Where are you in Denve? I was in Denver last month. My son lives there and I visited him for a few days. I also spent 4 days in Boulder at a glass beadmaking convention. Many years ago I lived in Littleton. Our first son was born in Denver but we move to Ohio when he was 6 months old. Erna

In a message dated 06/21/2001 2:02:41 PM, GERMAN-LIFE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Does anyone have any good medicine against altitude sickness> >> Drink lots of water and stay away from caffeine and alcohol drinks. Erna

In a message dated 06/21/2001 1:33:09 AM, GERMAN-LIFE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Seems we could gather a whole van full or more from the St. Louis area if we decided to join the party. >> Maybe we people from the St. Louis area should get together sometime and get to know one another. Erna

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:13:07 EDT ESPALT@aol.com writes: > > Maybe we people from the St. Louis area should get together > sometime and get to know one another. > Erna Ooohh. that sounds like fun! Can we come to your house, Erna.? :-)) Have any of you been a part of the German Cultural Society? I've not, but I've visited their website a few times. http://www.germanstl.org/intro.html Mona ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

> If Fred had stopped in St.Louis we all could have boarded his motor > home. I > don't think Mrs. Fred would have minded a few hitchikers. He could > have seen > the antique car road race here also. It was in Kirkwood yesterday > and > featured on chanel 5. Interesting......Barbara Right! What's a dozen or so extra passenger?!! Mona ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Drink some vinegar.....

On an educational tour through Europe, I was told that the word dollar comes from the Latin taler(sp) for the word salt. Salt was a valuable commodity before the days of refrigeration and was often used for trade. I would guess that the (Prussian-German?) term thaler also comes from that root word. Barb Coburn

Hi Mona, I'm familiar with the great work you do in Jefferson County. In the last year we've been visiting the De Soto area quite a lot having found our first Missouri roots there about 1821. According to a book in the De Soto library Vineland was named for my family........Barbara >From: mona_houser@juno.com >Reply-To: GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com >To: GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] New Game...In Fred's Honor >Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:57:06 -0500 > > > > I'm in St. Louis and I think I've already been passed by.....Barbara > >Theola, I cede my "winner" status to Barbara, who is about 35 closer to >Hannibal (and Fred) than I. > >Barbara, Hi neighbor! -- I'm down near Hillsboro. > >Mona > >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > >==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE from this mail list send a message to: >GERMAN-LIFE-L-request@rootsweb.com and in the message add the word >UNSUBSCRIBE and send. > >============================== >Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate >your heritage! >http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com