Dave: This genealogy business does keep you busy, huh ? I was lucky, when I started out five years ago, The Aldrich line has been researched for years by the Aldrich Assoc., and I was able to tap myself into other peoples research. My Granny Aldrich (Tackett) wanted nothing better than to be accepted as a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution, so she did piles of research on her Tackett and Durkee lines going back to the 17oos, to find someone in there that actually fought in the Revolution. (We up here call it the Rebellion). It easy that way. Now, its different on my wife, Sonja's side. We have her back to her GGranfather Josef Eble, who was a Kaufsmann in Freiburg im Breisgau. While we haven't got her back farther than that, we did have a great time visiting Freiburg and looking through records. It is one beautiful city. Managed to find something to research two years running. Happy Anniversery. Sonja and I were 40 years last April.Don't know how she has been able to put up with me all these years. Must be my good luck, huh (eh) ? Ralf At 08:41 AM 7/5/01 -0400, you wrote: >OK: Been awhile since we've swapped words. If things are as busy around >your place as here, I understand why. Right now I'm up to the proverbial >eyebones (Pogo) in doing data entry in both our families, and it's keeping me >humping. This morning I'll be entering a lot of the results (1700s, mainly) >from our research in Carol's KEPPEL/KOPP line from Muenchberg, Oberfranken, >Bavaria. Good records there, in an abstracted format, alphabetized by >surname, then alpha by given name. However, only the basics -- no baptismal >sponsors, etc. > >Today is our 43d w.a., so a bit of celebration is in order, eh ?? > >Dave > > >==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE from this mail list send a message to: >GERMAN-LIFE-L-request@rootsweb.com and in the message add the word UNSUBSCRIBE and send. > >============================== >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

OK: Been awhile since we've swapped words. If things are as busy around your place as here, I understand why. Right now I'm up to the proverbial eyebones (Pogo) in doing data entry in both our families, and it's keeping me humping. This morning I'll be entering a lot of the results (1700s, mainly) from our research in Carol's KEPPEL/KOPP line from Muenchberg, Oberfranken, Bavaria. Good records there, in an abstracted format, alphabetized by surname, then alpha by given name. However, only the basics -- no baptismal sponsors, etc. Today is our 43d w.a., so a bit of celebration is in order, eh ?? Dave

Your the one Dave. Ralf At 08:06 AM 7/5/01 -0400, you wrote: >I don't know, Ralf, which Dave your message about the Donau route was aimed >at, but I printed it out as a guideline for a portion of our trip next >autumn. Sounds like a winner !! > >Dave Ross, Denver > > >==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== >To UNSUBSCRIBE from digest mode send a message to: >GERMAN-LIFE-D-request@rootsweb.com and add the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the message and send. > >============================== >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

I don't know, Ralf, which Dave your message about the Donau route was aimed at, but I printed it out as a guideline for a portion of our trip next autumn. Sounds like a winner !! Dave Ross, Denver

Congratulations, a German dinner is being called for.... Gail

I don't know what tour you were on but they need to more research of what is available in the city for visitors. Having been downtown today for the 4-July festival it is full of german historical heritage. There are neighboring towns such as Hermann, Westphalia, Bonnots Mill, that have the same. But you did see some of the top highlights of the capital, etc. Maybe next time. Anna

And now back to German Life: Hi Dave: Did you ever take the auto route from Tuttlingen (am Donau), down the Donau, then south east over the hump through Bergsteig and Buchheim, and then back down to the banks of the Donau at Beuron. Beuron of course is famous for a beautiful Kloster, along the lines of Ettal in Bavaria. Beuron is also famous for Edith Stein (I believe that was her name) the young Jewish girl who converted to Christianity, became a Nun, and will probably reach sainthood sometime in the future. In any case, that is not the subject of this note, no matter how beautiful Beuron is, and how touristy it has become. Seven years ago was the first time I took that beautiful "strasse" At that time as we were coming down from the "hump" I happened to glance to my right, and saw a small German graveyard, filled with the graves of German soldiers, who were killed during an engagement, shortly before the end of number Two. By whom, I don't know. As you know a German military graveyard has somewhat different grave stones than your or ours have. They are about 2.5 ft square, made out of concrete and shaped in the form of an iron cross. A low brick and mortar wall surrounded the entire thing. This particular small graveyard was run down and grown over with wild shrubs and bushes. A shame. This year, I kept an eye out for it, and saw that someone or group had cleaned up the graves and graveyard as a whole, so that it looked peaceful and presentable. It gave me the impression that these young, men who had apparently been forgotten for years, were now being remembered by their people; and so it should be. Maybe next time I am over there I will take a stroll through, to remember that the young men of both sides suffered. I have an uncle who was killed in the first war two weeks before the armistice. He is buried in the British War Graveyard at Cambrai, France. These British Cemetaries, the product of WW l are dotted all through that area of northern France and Belgium. The local citizens voluntarily keep them manicured and clean. They are sites to behold. It is satisfying to know that those young Germans soldiers who fell are now being treated similarly. Ralf

What a nice story, thanks Ralf. Gail

On 3 Jul 2001, at 12:16, Newtross@aol.com wrote: > FRED: Sorry to hear of your "failure" to land in Golden. We've had > this happen to us a couple of times, and I've always had my > printed-out confirmation to prove that it was THEIR fault !! I hope > you were able to get a place handily in Breckenridge, and I'm sorry we > missed a chance to meet. The phone bit STILL puzzles me !! You > certainly hit beautiful weather out there !! > > HAPPY 4TH !!! Thanks, the same to everyone on the list. I did not get a confirmation card which should have alerted me but didn't. Tiger Tail here in Breckenridge seems to always have some space available. I noticed that when the office closes at 5PM they have enveloped of available lots in the outside lobby. So if someone arrives late with a reservation they can pick their envelope up and will know where to go and those who show without one can pick a lot from the available ones at the rate they wish to pay. The weather here is beautiful. The mornings especialy are gorgeous with the snow capped mountains glistening a bright white. Then there are the pine trees which seem to have an aroma all of their own. In the evenings, as the sun goes down, on gets an immediate chill. At night it's in the 40s here but we don't require heat as the rig stays warm enough to be very comfy under the covers. Yesterday was one of those special memory days again. I mean for Amanda. We drove up to Hoosier pass at 11,200 feet and then took our jeep up a trail which only ended as it was blocked by snow. Amanda squeaked with joy the whole trip up as the jeep was rocking to and fro and my wife was having panic attacks. Think of those ads for jeeps and you get the idea. Problem was that once we hit the snow bank covering the road there was n where to go but back - backwards. Again, neat stuff for Amanda but not my wife. We were probably close to 13,000 feet high and the views from up there were fabulous to say the last. The whole area seems to be covered with county roads which aren't on any of our mpas but which go deep into the mountains. I think they must be snow mobile roads as there doesn't seem to be any logging going on. The trees stop below the roads. We made an approx. 200 mile round trip yesterday and saw many an old town which at one time was nothing but a mining camp. Leadville at one time was the second largest city in Colorado next to Denver. 30,000 miners worked there and lots of money was made. The town itself we'll explore some more on Thursday as we'll go down there and take a train ride back and forth from Leadville to Climax and then walk the town with its many historic buildings which go back to another time when people who had just gotten rich put up whatever their fancy called for. I still have a slight headache every morning and attempting to wash my rig this morning left me breathless. So excercise is not in the picture. I'll just do a little at a time. The washer folks here want 90 bucks to wash my rig and that is a litle too steep for me. I did do the car this morning. Got to send this now Fred

Well, Fred I graduated from high school in Leadville and have the Lake Co. web page and that is where I am heading over the weekend. You will be there Thursday and I should arrive at the lake which is about 22 miles south of Leadville on Sunday. When you are in Leadville, take the drive up California Gulch and see the ruins of all the old mines. See Tabor's mine and visit the Healy house. The old mining museum at the old high school on W. 9th St. is a must too. Take a jaunt out to the fish hatchery and get yourself some fizzy water at Soda Springs. In Stringtown you can see the remains of the old smelter. Take a run out to Twin Lakes, that is where we lived in the village of Twin Lakes. The old house is on the national register as being the old Clareton Hotel. Those old roads are to the old mines and some of them are Forest Service access roads for fire control. Enjoy Colorado!!!! Gail

On 2 Jul 2001, at 22:47, AKnaebel@aol.com wrote: > Sorry to hear of you disappointment in Jefferson City, MO. For the > most part it is mostly German. The surroundings towns are also > German. There is the historic downtown area to strol as well as the > state capital and other places of interest. The Runge Nature Center > would have been great and told you all about the habit of the area. It wassn't the city I was disappointed with but rather the tour. We had a brief tour of the capitol which lasted about 45 minutes with quite a bit of that just waiting for the group to gather in one spot with elevators being small and all that. Most of the time was spent in the house of rep's lounge with all the paintings. We also went to the restored house on the riverfront and saw a movie there. Then there was a trip to the Jefferson monument high up on the river bank. That plus our meal was the tour. Oh, yes, we did stop at the Runge Nature Center but there was never enough time. My granddaughter was so intent on reading the displays that she lost our group and was not to be found on the bus. I ran back and forth looking for her but couldn't find her anywhere. I then had them announ ce her name in the center and there she was wondering what all the fuss was about. If I had taken a car over there and did my own tour of the city I would have gotten much more out f the trip. Fred

> Fred, > You should have taken your own car and visited Herman and the surrounding > very German area. An afternoon visiting the winery's and eating Brats can be > a lot of fun..........Barbara The Berlin Wall Sculpture and the Churchill Memorial in Fulton, just east of Columbia, is definately worth a stop... http://www.westminster-mo.edu/churchill_memorial/index.asp Jackie

Fred, You should have taken your own car and visited Herman and the surrounding very German area. An afternoon visiting the winery's and eating Brats can be a lot of fun..........Barbara >From: "W. Fred Rump" <FredRump@earthlink.net> >Reply-To: GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com >To: GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Still here, but now in Colorado >Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 10:56:12 -0400 > >On 2 Jul 2001, at 22:47, AKnaebel@aol.com wrote: > > > Sorry to hear of you disappointment in Jefferson City, MO. For the > > most part it is mostly German. The surroundings towns are also > > German. There is the historic downtown area to strol as well as the > > state capital and other places of interest. The Runge Nature Center > > would have been great and told you all about the habit of the area. > >It wassn't the city I was disappointed with but rather the tour. We >had a brief tour of the capitol which lasted about 45 minutes with >quite a bit of that just waiting for the group to gather in one spot >with elevators being small and all that. Most of the time was spent >in the house of rep's lounge with all the paintings. We also went to >the restored house on the riverfront and saw a movie there. Then >there was a trip to the Jefferson monument high up on the river >bank. That plus our meal was the tour. Oh, yes, we did stop at the >Runge Nature Center but there was never enough time. My >granddaughter was so intent on reading the displays that she lost >our group and was not to be found on the bus. I ran back and forth >looking for her but couldn't find her anywhere. I then had them >announ ce her name in the center and there she was wondering >what all the fuss was about. > >If I had taken a car over there and did my own tour of the city I >would have gotten much more out f the trip. > >Fred > > > > >==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== >Complaints: >Contact the list administrator at: GERMAN-LIFE-L-admin@rootsweb.com > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

FRED: Sorry to hear of your "failure" to land in Golden. We've had this happen to us a couple of times, and I've always had my printed-out confirmation to prove that it was THEIR fault !! I hope you were able to get a place handily in Breckenridge, and I'm sorry we missed a chance to meet. The phone bit STILL puzzles me !! You certainly hit beautiful weather out there !! HAPPY 4TH !!! Dave Ross

Fred, Are you saying that you and Dave did not get together in Denver??? When will you be in Durango? I will be in Durango over the weekend and then headed on to Twin Lakes... Tschüss! Gail Meÿer Kilgore Casa Grande, AZ

On 2 Jul 2001, at 12:28, Newtross@aol.com wrote: > Hope you made it here OK. The "autovoice" on the phone says your > SPRINT number is dosconnected, and your other number has been busy > (Mon AM), so I assume you've maybe been online. I'll try later. > > Dave Ross. Hi Dave, I sent an earlier message as to where we were. The phones should have worked though. The 941# is a sprint Florida line which often didn't work in the mid west. The 215# is my Philly bellatlantic (Vorizin) line. It worked all the time until we got out here to the mountains. Here from Breckenridge only the Sprint line works. Go figure. I use neither cellulars for my email as that would take forever and a day. I just downloaded 334 messages at the camp office where they usually have a modem line available. Fred

Sorry to hear of you disappointment in Jefferson City, MO. For the most part it is mostly German. The surroundings towns are also German. There is the historic downtown area to strol as well as the state capital and other places of interest. The Runge Nature Center would have been great and told you all about the habit of the area. Anna

I meant to pass this along sooner, but forgot until today when I fixed myself a "lemonade" using vinegar and honey instead of lemon juice and sugar. It's a refreshing drink when iced, and nice served hot in the winter, too. Approximately 1 tablespoon of vinegar and 1 tablespoon of honey / cup of water. Actually, I keep a 2-quart container filled with the mixed honey and vinegar (1 quart of each), and pour it into my glass and dilute it to taste. Mona ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hi again, yesterday afternoon we pulled into Golden, CO and the Dakota Ridge campground knew nothing about the reservation I made on April 19th. Par for the course. I was going to meet Dave Ross there just to get to meet at least one list member and fate had me continue on Breckeridge. We are now at the Tiger Tail Resort which is quite upscale. Lots of million dollar coaches here. The landscaping is fantastic and the flowers sem to love this 9000+ altitude. Pansies in July in full bloom. As I pulled in here the guy next to our assigned lot helped me park and then told me right away that we should do absolutely nothing on our first day except to just relax. Of course I had taken the advice you guys had given us and we were guzzling water all along. I felt fine and took a little walk with our granddaughter. Shouldn't have. My heart was palpating and my blood was just pounding my vains. Strangest thing from practically nothing. So a little headache started aand I took the suggested Sudafed and we went to bed rather early. I was exhausted and very tired. This morning the view of the mountains in the early sunlight was simply fantastic. I felt fine. Little Amanda is not affected at all by any of this altitude thing. She's out there swimming and riding her bike as if there's no tommorrow. She wanted to show me something and I got my bike out to see what it was. She had already explored the whgole lace and taken the road out of the park into a condo development next door. Up and down it went over a bicycle path until it started to go up the mountain. I was supposed to climb up with her. No way! She went up a way on her own while I was panting just from the ride. I did have to promise a later combined climb before she was willing to give up on her designed task. She quite the explorer and doesn't go far from her roots. I think by tommorow the adults on this trip will be sufficiently adjusted to the thin air to actually do something. We'll probably go check out the mountains around us by driving from here to there. Thursday we're off to a train ride from Leadvill, which is the highest incorporated community in the US at over 10,000 feet. One other item. From Sedalia we took a rather dissappointing toru of Jefferson City. If it hadn't been for lunch at Das Stein Haus, the trip would have been a waste. I don't like guided tours as I need to look at my own pace. This tour was mostly spent getting to and fro and the Amtrack ride to Jeff City was nt exactly a highlight. I has assumed an old historic train or something like that. We had two busses and the lunch was Rouladen made just like at home except they didn't have any pickles in them as my wife prefers to make them. But the meal was delicious and anybody who'se ever inn the capital of Missouri should plan a meal there. Schwarzwálder Kirschtorte was the desert and it was like the real thing. Most one get mush if you order this in other restaurants. Helmut Steiner is the owner and head chef of the restaurant. I spoke a few words with him and he wasn't surprised to be addressed in German at all. So it must happen quite often. But I have no idea if there is a German community in Jeff City. We'll stay here for a week and then it's off to Durango. Fred

Hope you made it here OK. The "autovoice" on the phone says your SPRINT number is dosconnected, and your other number has been busy (Mon AM), so I assume you've maybe been online. I'll try later. Dave Ross.