Angie, I was the one who sent the first "statement". When I did that I thought one would enjoy it. If you didn't I'm deeply sorry about it. It must be my "German sense of humor" which is different from yours. Sorry again. Heinz _________________________ Heinz L. Zulauf Flotowstrasse 9 D-64287 Darmstadt Germany e-mail: [email protected] Visit my Private Homepage "The Classical Music Site" http://myweb.vector.ch/zulauf _________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Reply to British Revocation Announcement > Hello, > > At first I did not understand what this conversation had to do with German > Life. But now I think I get the connection. It must be all those AMERICANS > who risked their lives in W.W.II or else you "obedient servants of Her > Majesty" would know a whole lot more about German Life. > > I am sorely disappointed in this conversation and the fact that it was > allowed. Isn't this the same list that spent well over a month in a > discussion that strove to break the stereotypes of Germans? > > Please understand that the current state of affairs deeply concern many > Americans. We are fighting for our very foundation. Making fun right now is > down right rude. > > Angie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 11:10 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Reply to British Revocation Announcement > > > > In a message dated 17/11/00 21:11:40 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] > writes: > > Our considered replies > > << Since receiving the royal announcement, I have a few questions to as > the > > new > > goverment. > > 1. Must we salute the queen with all our fingers displayed or can we be > > selective? > > One does NOT salute the Queen (Note the capital Q) unless one is a member > of > > the armed forces when a regulation salute, made with the cap on you will > > note, never as is done in the United States sometimes in a hatless > condition. > > If one is male the correct thing to do is bow, if female, a curtsey is > > appropriate. Tuition will be given. > > 2. How many East Indian doctors will manage our clinics for public health > > care? > > About as many as appear to be employed in similar establishments in > America > > except that in the U.K. they are Indian or Pakistani. > > 3. Must we relearn how to cook bacon? > > We will allow you to retain your culinary skills, such as they are. > > 4. How can I get a seat in the house of commons and who will count the > > ballots? > > US citizens will not be eligible for a seat in the House of Commons (Note > the > > capital letters) until candidates can refrain from the overheated frenzy > of > > elections that appear to be the norm up to this time. Placards, balloons > and > > funny hats will not be countenanced. Neither will donations of more than a > > modest sum of money be allowed. Vote counting will be carried out by an > > official called the "Returning Officer" The voting issues will be simple, > > provided that the voter is able to read and write. > > A simple piece of paper bearing the names of all the candidates and their > > political party will be handed to the voter at the Polling Station. This > will > > only be provided after his or name has been checked on the register of > > voters. A X at the side of the name of the candidate of your choice is all > > that is required. There will be no other position than the vacancy for a > > Member of Parliament. Papers will not list vacancies for petty local > > officials. > > 5. Who will be crazy enough to direct traffic the first day we switch to > > driving on the left side of the roads? > > We suggest that it would help to slim down the local police force if they > > were to perform this duty. They could then be slightly prouder of the > garish > > badges that appear to be the present fashion. > > 6. Are we permitted to throw bombs on Guy Faulk's day? > > One should first learn how to spell the name which is Guy Fawkes. To throw > a > > bomb would not be emulating this person. Mr. Fawkes did not throw anything > > anywhere. He deposited barrels of gunpowder under the Houses of > Parliament. > > Caught and executed, you might remember that. > > 7. Do we get tax credit for wasting all those previous dollars on English > > sport cars? > > Do you mean precious or previous? Certainly you may claim if you have a > > legitimate and provable case. Bear in mind though that any claim may be > set > > against a certain model of unstable car called a "Discovery" and for > > cleansing the streets of the United Kingdom of discarded containers and > > wrappers from what are euphemistically called "fast food outlets" > > Dictated by and signed by > > John Bull > > Her Majesty's obedient servant > > Published in the Bradmore Gazette > > This 17th day of November in the year of Our Lord, Two Thousand > > > > > > >

Big Sigh.... My point is completely lost.... I just would not post anything that made fun of any politics to any site not geared to that subject. I guess I stand alone on this one. I'm at a loss. I thought this was a site for German history. I think I can be very funny. I think I have a good sense of humor. I just thought this was out of place. Maybe we would enjoy poking fun at each others politics on a poking fun of politics site. If some one asks about a German recipe on this list, they are directed to another site. If someone pokes fun at the American lack of vocabulary (I quote "look up the word vocabulary" from the first post) then we should all agree and let the stream of commentary clog our mail boxes. I have been a member of this site since it first began. I signed on the minute I heard about it because I want to learn more about German History. I am a little disappointed to get so many emails about my lack of humor or being the "only one" to take offense about something that did not belong here in the first place. Angie ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike and Dorie Brennecke <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 2:12 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Reply to British Revocation Announcement > I forgot one thing, and then I will be quiet on this subject. If there IS a > real problem with our election process, it's in campaign finance, rather > than election procedures. The amount of money that is spent, or wasted, in > my humble opinion, is shameful, not to mention the political favors that we > all know take place in return for huge campaign contributions. Think how > much better that money could be spent! We Americans ought to make a public > outcry and demand campaign finance reform--yesterday! One election mess in > 225 years is small potatoes compared to that problem. Our founding fathers > would turn over in their graves if they could see what has become of the > campaign process. Dorie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Angie <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:03 AM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Reply to British Revocation Announcement > > > > Hello, > > > > At first I did not understand what this conversation had to do with German > > Life. But now I think I get the connection. It must be all those AMERICANS > > who risked their lives in W.W.II or else you "obedient servants of Her > > Majesty" would know a whole lot more about German Life. > > > > I am sorely disappointed in this conversation and the fact that it was > > allowed. Isn't this the same list that spent well over a month in a > > discussion that strove to break the stereotypes of Germans? > > > > Please understand that the current state of affairs deeply concern many > > Americans. We are fighting for our very foundation. Making fun right now > is > > down right rude. > > > > Angie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 11:10 PM > > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Reply to British Revocation Announcement > > > > > > > In a message dated 17/11/00 21:11:40 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] > > writes: > > > Our considered replies > > > << Since receiving the royal announcement, I have a few questions to as > > the > > > new > > > goverment. > > > 1. Must we salute the queen with all our fingers displayed or can we be > > > selective? > > > One does NOT salute the Queen (Note the capital Q) unless one is a > member > > of > > > the armed forces when a regulation salute, made with the cap on you will > > > note, never as is done in the United States sometimes in a hatless > > condition. > > > If one is male the correct thing to do is bow, if female, a curtsey is > > > appropriate. Tuition will be given. > > > 2. How many East Indian doctors will manage our clinics for public > health > > > care? > > > About as many as appear to be employed in similar establishments in > > America > > > except that in the U.K. they are Indian or Pakistani. > > > 3. Must we relearn how to cook bacon? > > > We will allow you to retain your culinary skills, such as they are. > > > 4. How can I get a seat in the house of commons and who will count the > > > ballots? > > > US citizens will not be eligible for a seat in the House of Commons > (Note > > the > > > capital letters) until candidates can refrain from the overheated frenzy > > of > > > elections that appear to be the norm up to this time. Placards, balloons > > and > > > funny hats will not be countenanced. Neither will donations of more than > a > > > modest sum of money be allowed. Vote counting will be carried out by an > > > official called the "Returning Officer" The voting issues will be > simple, > > > provided that the voter is able to read and write. > > > A simple piece of paper bearing the names of all the candidates and > their > > > political party will be handed to the voter at the Polling Station. This > > will > > > only be provided after his or name has been checked on the register of > > > voters. A X at the side of the name of the candidate of your choice is > all > > > that is required. There will be no other position than the vacancy for a > > > Member of Parliament. Papers will not list vacancies for petty local > > > officials. > > > 5. Who will be crazy enough to direct traffic the first day we switch to > > > driving on the left side of the roads? > > > We suggest that it would help to slim down the local police force if > they > > > were to perform this duty. They could then be slightly prouder of the > > garish > > > badges that appear to be the present fashion. > > > 6. Are we permitted to throw bombs on Guy Faulk's day? > > > One should first learn how to spell the name which is Guy Fawkes. To > throw > > a > > > bomb would not be emulating this person. Mr. Fawkes did not throw > anything > > > anywhere. He deposited barrels of gunpowder under the Houses of > > Parliament. > > > Caught and executed, you might remember that. > > > 7. Do we get tax credit for wasting all those previous dollars on > English > > > sport cars? > > > Do you mean precious or previous? Certainly you may claim if you have a > > > legitimate and provable case. Bear in mind though that any claim may be > > set > > > against a certain model of unstable car called a "Discovery" and for > > > cleansing the streets of the United Kingdom of discarded containers and > > > wrappers from what are euphemistically called "fast food outlets" > > > Dictated by and signed by > > > John Bull > > > Her Majesty's obedient servant > > > Published in the Bradmore Gazette > > > This 17th day of November in the year of Our Lord, Two Thousand > > > > > > > > > >

JUDAS PRIEST .... let the thing DIE!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. Fred Rump" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 21:04 Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Voting > On 20 Nov 2000, at 23:43, mtwitch wrote: > > > People people we need to lighten up. I live in Florida and everyday > > someone sends me something re: the voting. If i took offense at them, > > i would be mad all day. Humor is great for all our ailments including > > ballot marking. We must keep remembering that we can make jokes, etc. > > and not have to worry about possible tanks and soldiers riding in for > > some kind of revolution. USA will survive whatever ..... and i bet > > we all learned a new word ... like who knew what a chad was????? > > > > > > As a fairly new Floridian I must say that it is a bit embarrassing > though. There is no honor. That is sad for our whole country. > > Someone asked me if we're changing our license plates from an > orange to a pregnant dimple and call our state Flori-duh. When > people can't follow the directions which 2nd and 3rd graders pass > with flying colors and even admit this in public, things are pretty > bad. Do we laugh or cry? > > I've also received the cover page of a new book of the Dummies > series: 'Voting for Dummies' by Richard Dalley. > > All this does not do our state or country much good. 15% of our > capital market is controlled by non-Americans. The market has > tanked. These people wonder if they have their money in the right > place with so many idiots running around. Many billions have been > lost by our voters who own stock in the last two weeks. > > And all this because one man can't admit he lost. > > Fred > > > 4788 Corian Court > Naples, FL 34114 > 941-775-7838 > [email protected] > Florida Law - count dimples but not military votes > >

Heinz -- I thought it was funny!! Lighten up, folks! Regards, Jayne

I wondered if someone could recommend a website with a nice topographic map of Germany. It is needed for a project due in about one week. If anyone could point me to a site, or if anyone has a topographic map of Germany that could be e-mailed as an attachment, I would really appreciate it! Thank you. Diane

My sentiments, exactly, and well-said, Jack! Hope you are doing well! Dorie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Reply to British Revocation Announcement > In a message dated 20/11/00 21:03:11 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] > writes: > > << At first I did not understand what this conversation had to do with German > Life. But now I think I get the connection. It must be all those AMERICANS > who risked their lives in W.W.II or else you "obedient servants of Her > Majesty" would know a whole lot more about German Life.>> Snip > >> > Angie > Its not very often I post serious messages on this list, mostly attempts at > humor or factual points. However, I must admit that my posting had nothing to > do with German Life. > The only excuse I have for being on this list that I have a distant Hessian > ancestor. You may, or may not,think this is reason enough. I must tell you > that I have a great regard for Germany and its peoples and have lived amongst > them for a number of years. > I am not sure what point you are making about WW11 and American lives, may I > just say that I know about WW11, I took part in it. My horror for the loss of > lives of WHATEVER nationality is as strong today as it was in 1945. That's > why I am not ashamed to admit that I cry every November 11th when taking part > in memorial services. > <> Snip > Quite how you bring in stereotyping Germans I cannot fathom, perhaps you will > explain. > <<Please understand that the current state of affairs deeply concern many > Americans. We are fighting for our very foundation. Making fun right now is > down right rude.>> Snip > I am aware that this is so, the vacuum caused by the delay in electing a new > President has vast repercussions throughout the world. But let me explain my > posting. > The first part of each section was written by an American in response to a > spoof declaration which you may well have read. > So, in 1 the question of saluting was the American question, mine the response > Similarly in 2 through 6, the first part is an American question and the > response mine. > I regret that the American contributor and my sense of humor are not yours. > The original proclamation of revocation which prompted all this has been > circulated over the Internet and newspapers world-wide. Yours is the first > condemnation I have seen. > Of course you are fighting for your very foundation, I appreciate that as > much as you do, where we differ is in our ability to see the humorous side. > For what is it, nearly fourteen days? Two powerful men have been arguing over > whether someone did, or did not, intend to vote for them, using all the power > of the courts to try and prove their points. Really Angie, don't you think > that humor is the only way to treat such ridiculous behavior? > The fact that America will eventually have one of them as President is > difficult for me to comprehend. > We in the UK have strange people as our leaders, if you, or anyone else, saw > fit to make fun of them I think you would be applauded by the majority of > Brits. Laughter is surely the best and only way to treat a situation where > you have no opportunity of influencing the outcome. > I rest my case. > Jack Garner

I forgot one thing, and then I will be quiet on this subject. If there IS a real problem with our election process, it's in campaign finance, rather than election procedures. The amount of money that is spent, or wasted, in my humble opinion, is shameful, not to mention the political favors that we all know take place in return for huge campaign contributions. Think how much better that money could be spent! We Americans ought to make a public outcry and demand campaign finance reform--yesterday! One election mess in 225 years is small potatoes compared to that problem. Our founding fathers would turn over in their graves if they could see what has become of the campaign process. Dorie ----- Original Message ----- From: Angie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Reply to British Revocation Announcement > Hello, > > At first I did not understand what this conversation had to do with German > Life. But now I think I get the connection. It must be all those AMERICANS > who risked their lives in W.W.II or else you "obedient servants of Her > Majesty" would know a whole lot more about German Life. > > I am sorely disappointed in this conversation and the fact that it was > allowed. Isn't this the same list that spent well over a month in a > discussion that strove to break the stereotypes of Germans? > > Please understand that the current state of affairs deeply concern many > Americans. We are fighting for our very foundation. Making fun right now is > down right rude. > > Angie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 11:10 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Reply to British Revocation Announcement > > > > In a message dated 17/11/00 21:11:40 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] > writes: > > Our considered replies > > << Since receiving the royal announcement, I have a few questions to as > the > > new > > goverment. > > 1. Must we salute the queen with all our fingers displayed or can we be > > selective? > > One does NOT salute the Queen (Note the capital Q) unless one is a member > of > > the armed forces when a regulation salute, made with the cap on you will > > note, never as is done in the United States sometimes in a hatless > condition. > > If one is male the correct thing to do is bow, if female, a curtsey is > > appropriate. Tuition will be given. > > 2. How many East Indian doctors will manage our clinics for public health > > care? > > About as many as appear to be employed in similar establishments in > America > > except that in the U.K. they are Indian or Pakistani. > > 3. Must we relearn how to cook bacon? > > We will allow you to retain your culinary skills, such as they are. > > 4. How can I get a seat in the house of commons and who will count the > > ballots? > > US citizens will not be eligible for a seat in the House of Commons (Note > the > > capital letters) until candidates can refrain from the overheated frenzy > of > > elections that appear to be the norm up to this time. Placards, balloons > and > > funny hats will not be countenanced. Neither will donations of more than a > > modest sum of money be allowed. Vote counting will be carried out by an > > official called the "Returning Officer" The voting issues will be simple, > > provided that the voter is able to read and write. > > A simple piece of paper bearing the names of all the candidates and their > > political party will be handed to the voter at the Polling Station. This > will > > only be provided after his or name has been checked on the register of > > voters. A X at the side of the name of the candidate of your choice is all > > that is required. There will be no other position than the vacancy for a > > Member of Parliament. Papers will not list vacancies for petty local > > officials. > > 5. Who will be crazy enough to direct traffic the first day we switch to > > driving on the left side of the roads? > > We suggest that it would help to slim down the local police force if they > > were to perform this duty. They could then be slightly prouder of the > garish > > badges that appear to be the present fashion. > > 6. Are we permitted to throw bombs on Guy Faulk's day? > > One should first learn how to spell the name which is Guy Fawkes. To throw > a > > bomb would not be emulating this person. Mr. Fawkes did not throw anything > > anywhere. He deposited barrels of gunpowder under the Houses of > Parliament. > > Caught and executed, you might remember that. > > 7. Do we get tax credit for wasting all those previous dollars on English > > sport cars? > > Do you mean precious or previous? Certainly you may claim if you have a > > legitimate and provable case. Bear in mind though that any claim may be > set > > against a certain model of unstable car called a "Discovery" and for > > cleansing the streets of the United Kingdom of discarded containers and > > wrappers from what are euphemistically called "fast food outlets" > > Dictated by and signed by > > John Bull > > Her Majesty's obedient servant > > Published in the Bradmore Gazette > > This 17th day of November in the year of Our Lord, Two Thousand > > > > > >

I have to say, with all due respect, that I don't agree we are fighting for our very foundation. Our foundation is just what will resolve the whole issue sooner or later. None of this would even have been an issue if the vote hadn't been so amazingly close. (We had an entire county in Iowa that was split exactly in half--the same number of votes for Bush as for Gore.) I don't believe this is the first time a ballot has been difficult to decipher, and I don't believe it's the first time that voting irregularities have occurred. It's just the first time those problems have come out of the shadows, purely because of the nearly equal split in votes. If the vote had been split 60/40, there would be no question about who had won, and these issues wouldn't be such a big deal, if they came to light at all. There are procedures in place to resolve the problem, and in due time, I believe they will be resolved. Unfortunately, approximately one-half of the population will probably be unhappy with the results, and I'm afraid I will probably be one of that group! (I will console myself with the thought that it gives the "other party's" candidate an opportunity to prove he's no better at being president than my party's candidate!) ;-) I think it's important that we not get into a panic over this. It will be very interesting and educational to see how it all plays out, but life will go on, and one of these days it will all be an interesting part of history. That's my take on the whole thing, and I think having a sense of humor about it helps to keep it in perspective. Isn't it great, and aren't we lucky, that we have laws and rules already in place to resolve the conflict? Dorie ----- Original Message ----- From: Angie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Reply to British Revocation Announcement > Hello, > > At first I did not understand what this conversation had to do with German > Life. But now I think I get the connection. It must be all those AMERICANS > who risked their lives in W.W.II or else you "obedient servants of Her > Majesty" would know a whole lot more about German Life. > > I am sorely disappointed in this conversation and the fact that it was > allowed. Isn't this the same list that spent well over a month in a > discussion that strove to break the stereotypes of Germans? > > Please understand that the current state of affairs deeply concern many > Americans. We are fighting for our very foundation. Making fun right now is > down right rude. > > Angie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 11:10 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Reply to British Revocation Announcement > > > > In a message dated 17/11/00 21:11:40 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] > writes: > > Our considered replies > > << Since receiving the royal announcement, I have a few questions to as > the > > new > > goverment. > > 1. Must we salute the queen with all our fingers displayed or can we be > > selective? > > One does NOT salute the Queen (Note the capital Q) unless one is a member > of > > the armed forces when a regulation salute, made with the cap on you will > > note, never as is done in the United States sometimes in a hatless > condition. > > If one is male the correct thing to do is bow, if female, a curtsey is > > appropriate. Tuition will be given. > > 2. How many East Indian doctors will manage our clinics for public health > > care? > > About as many as appear to be employed in similar establishments in > America > > except that in the U.K. they are Indian or Pakistani. > > 3. Must we relearn how to cook bacon? > > We will allow you to retain your culinary skills, such as they are. > > 4. How can I get a seat in the house of commons and who will count the > > ballots? > > US citizens will not be eligible for a seat in the House of Commons (Note > the > > capital letters) until candidates can refrain from the overheated frenzy > of > > elections that appear to be the norm up to this time. Placards, balloons > and > > funny hats will not be countenanced. Neither will donations of more than a > > modest sum of money be allowed. Vote counting will be carried out by an > > official called the "Returning Officer" The voting issues will be simple, > > provided that the voter is able to read and write. > > A simple piece of paper bearing the names of all the candidates and their > > political party will be handed to the voter at the Polling Station. This > will > > only be provided after his or name has been checked on the register of > > voters. A X at the side of the name of the candidate of your choice is all > > that is required. There will be no other position than the vacancy for a > > Member of Parliament. Papers will not list vacancies for petty local > > officials. > > 5. Who will be crazy enough to direct traffic the first day we switch to > > driving on the left side of the roads? > > We suggest that it would help to slim down the local police force if they > > were to perform this duty. They could then be slightly prouder of the > garish > > badges that appear to be the present fashion. > > 6. Are we permitted to throw bombs on Guy Faulk's day? > > One should first learn how to spell the name which is Guy Fawkes. To throw > a > > bomb would not be emulating this person. Mr. Fawkes did not throw anything > > anywhere. He deposited barrels of gunpowder under the Houses of > Parliament. > > Caught and executed, you might remember that. > > 7. Do we get tax credit for wasting all those previous dollars on English > > sport cars? > > Do you mean precious or previous? Certainly you may claim if you have a > > legitimate and provable case. Bear in mind though that any claim may be > set > > against a certain model of unstable car called a "Discovery" and for > > cleansing the streets of the United Kingdom of discarded containers and > > wrappers from what are euphemistically called "fast food outlets" > > Dictated by and signed by > > John Bull > > Her Majesty's obedient servant > > Published in the Bradmore Gazette > > This 17th day of November in the year of Our Lord, Two Thousand > > > > > >

Bully, Jack !! Right on !! Sense of humor intact. And how so MANY of us are abhorring the Florida Fuss; what a debacle !! Dave Ross Denver

In a message dated 20/11/00 21:03:11 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << At first I did not understand what this conversation had to do with German Life. But now I think I get the connection. It must be all those AMERICANS who risked their lives in W.W.II or else you "obedient servants of Her Majesty" would know a whole lot more about German Life.>> Snip >> Angie Its not very often I post serious messages on this list, mostly attempts at humor or factual points. However, I must admit that my posting had nothing to do with German Life. The only excuse I have for being on this list that I have a distant Hessian ancestor. You may, or may not,think this is reason enough. I must tell you that I have a great regard for Germany and its peoples and have lived amongst them for a number of years. I am not sure what point you are making about WW11 and American lives, may I just say that I know about WW11, I took part in it. My horror for the loss of lives of WHATEVER nationality is as strong today as it was in 1945. That's why I am not ashamed to admit that I cry every November 11th when taking part in memorial services. <> Snip Quite how you bring in stereotyping Germans I cannot fathom, perhaps you will explain. <<Please understand that the current state of affairs deeply concern many Americans. We are fighting for our very foundation. Making fun right now is down right rude.>> Snip I am aware that this is so, the vacuum caused by the delay in electing a new President has vast repercussions throughout the world. But let me explain my posting. The first part of each section was written by an American in response to a spoof declaration which you may well have read. So, in 1 the question of saluting was the American question, mine the response Similarly in 2 through 6, the first part is an American question and the response mine. I regret that the American contributor and my sense of humor are not yours. The original proclamation of revocation which prompted all this has been circulated over the Internet and newspapers world-wide. Yours is the first condemnation I have seen. Of course you are fighting for your very foundation, I appreciate that as much as you do, where we differ is in our ability to see the humorous side. For what is it, nearly fourteen days? Two powerful men have been arguing over whether someone did, or did not, intend to vote for them, using all the power of the courts to try and prove their points. Really Angie, don't you think that humor is the only way to treat such ridiculous behavior? The fact that America will eventually have one of them as President is difficult for me to comprehend. We in the UK have strange people as our leaders, if you, or anyone else, saw fit to make fun of them I think you would be applauded by the majority of Brits. Laughter is surely the best and only way to treat a situation where you have no opportunity of influencing the outcome. I rest my case. Jack Garner

Hello, Thank you for sharing. May every man and boy come home. Angie ----- Original Message ----- From: Theola Walden Baker <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 8:06 PM Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Fw: [B-W] German National Day of Mourning Thought I would forward this from another list. Theola *************************************************************8 > Today there is *Volkstrauertag* [National Day of Mourning] in Baden- > Württemberg and in the whole of Germany. > > It is not only a "Veterans' Day". On this day, nowadays, all the > victims of National Socialism and all the dead of the two Wold Wars, > including the civilians, are remembered. > > A *Volkstrauertag* was initiated by the *Volksbund Deutsche Kriegsgräber- > fürsorge* [German War Graves Commission] in 1920. From 1934 on the Nazis > used to call that day *Heldengedenktag* [Heroes' Remembrance Day] for > obvious reasons. The *Volkstrauertag* was revived immediately after the > end of the Second World War. > > The *Volksbund* have been doing a marvellous job in trying to find > war graves in the former Soviet Union and elsewhere with the intent > to be able to identify dead German soldiers and have very often been > able to tell the family where the son or father was buried. This is > a terribly difficult task as e.g. graves might now be hidden under a > car park, which formerly was a field, or after having found graves in > a forest the Volksbund discovered that defiler of graves had been there > before because they *collected souvenirs*, like the Iron Cross or, of > course, of more importance to them, the identity discs/tags, which they > sell. > > The *Voksbund* have been laying out new war cemeteries all the time and > are taking care of them. They are a registered charity organization that > mainly relies on donations. > > Regards, > > Lothar Schmid in Ludwigsburg > > > > ______________________________

Hello, At first I did not understand what this conversation had to do with German Life. But now I think I get the connection. It must be all those AMERICANS who risked their lives in W.W.II or else you "obedient servants of Her Majesty" would know a whole lot more about German Life. I am sorely disappointed in this conversation and the fact that it was allowed. Isn't this the same list that spent well over a month in a discussion that strove to break the stereotypes of Germans? Please understand that the current state of affairs deeply concern many Americans. We are fighting for our very foundation. Making fun right now is down right rude. Angie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Reply to British Revocation Announcement > In a message dated 17/11/00 21:11:40 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Our considered replies > << Since receiving the royal announcement, I have a few questions to as the > new > goverment. > 1. Must we salute the queen with all our fingers displayed or can we be > selective? > One does NOT salute the Queen (Note the capital Q) unless one is a member of > the armed forces when a regulation salute, made with the cap on you will > note, never as is done in the United States sometimes in a hatless condition. > If one is male the correct thing to do is bow, if female, a curtsey is > appropriate. Tuition will be given. > 2. How many East Indian doctors will manage our clinics for public health > care? > About as many as appear to be employed in similar establishments in America > except that in the U.K. they are Indian or Pakistani. > 3. Must we relearn how to cook bacon? > We will allow you to retain your culinary skills, such as they are. > 4. How can I get a seat in the house of commons and who will count the > ballots? > US citizens will not be eligible for a seat in the House of Commons (Note the > capital letters) until candidates can refrain from the overheated frenzy of > elections that appear to be the norm up to this time. Placards, balloons and > funny hats will not be countenanced. Neither will donations of more than a > modest sum of money be allowed. Vote counting will be carried out by an > official called the "Returning Officer" The voting issues will be simple, > provided that the voter is able to read and write. > A simple piece of paper bearing the names of all the candidates and their > political party will be handed to the voter at the Polling Station. This will > only be provided after his or name has been checked on the register of > voters. A X at the side of the name of the candidate of your choice is all > that is required. There will be no other position than the vacancy for a > Member of Parliament. Papers will not list vacancies for petty local > officials. > 5. Who will be crazy enough to direct traffic the first day we switch to > driving on the left side of the roads? > We suggest that it would help to slim down the local police force if they > were to perform this duty. They could then be slightly prouder of the garish > badges that appear to be the present fashion. > 6. Are we permitted to throw bombs on Guy Faulk's day? > One should first learn how to spell the name which is Guy Fawkes. To throw a > bomb would not be emulating this person. Mr. Fawkes did not throw anything > anywhere. He deposited barrels of gunpowder under the Houses of Parliament. > Caught and executed, you might remember that. > 7. Do we get tax credit for wasting all those previous dollars on English > sport cars? > Do you mean precious or previous? Certainly you may claim if you have a > legitimate and provable case. Bear in mind though that any claim may be set > against a certain model of unstable car called a "Discovery" and for > cleansing the streets of the United Kingdom of discarded containers and > wrappers from what are euphemistically called "fast food outlets" > Dictated by and signed by > John Bull > Her Majesty's obedient servant > Published in the Bradmore Gazette > This 17th day of November in the year of Our Lord, Two Thousand > > >

Does anyone know of any lists similar to this one which pertain to Denmark? Shirley

You can buy the chocolate "surprise eggs" online at http://www.germandeli.com/kindersurpriseeggs.html . Mark ------------------------------------------------------- Mark, I just lurk at this site...hoping to pick up on some good "German" stories...I lucked into this conversation about easter eggs and I just spent the last 2 hours visiting the germandeli site...Thank you. I love it and I'll use it alot ! June Lerch

Mark Thank you for the wonderful German Deli site!!!! Chris -----Original Message----- From: _Mark [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 10:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Fruit Try this link for "smoked eel" at www.GermanDeli.com . It's http://www.germandeli.com/NachtigalSchillerlocken.html . I hope this helps. Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike and Dorie Brennecke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 18 November, 2000 09:01 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Fruit > Oh, smoked eel--now you've got my mouth watering! Delicious! Wish I could > find some of that around here, but eels aren't exactly native to the > midwest, unfortunately! Dorie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Klaus Cook <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Fruit > > > > Heinz, > > Reminds me of a cute story. When my grandmother was still alive she would > > come to the States every Christmas. She would walk through customs over > here > > with smoked eel (wrapped in Christmas paper) under her arm. She never got > > caught. > > > > Klaus Dieter Cook, > > Houston, Texas > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Heinz L. Zulauf" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 4:36 PM > > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Fruit > > > > > > > <<Fruit is a no-no>> > > > > > > Not in Germany. You can pass customs with an apple in your hand. > > > _________________________ > > > Heinz L. Zulauf > > > Flotowstrasse 9 > > > D-64287 Darmstadt > > > Germany > > > e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > Visit my Private Homepage > > > "The Classical Music Site" > > > http://myweb.vector.ch/zulauf > > > _________________________ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Suzanne" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 10:44 AM > > > Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Fruit > > > > > > > > > > I doubt if the woman who took bananas with her from the U.S. was able > to > > > get through customs with them. Fruit is a no-no because you can bring > > pests > > > with you from one country to another. > > > > > > > > Suzanne Hill > > > > > > > > > > > >

These eggs sound like "KINDERSURPRISE" they are available in Canada. Pam Zaleschuk, Guelph, Ontario Canada --- [email protected] wrote: > Hi, > This is a bit trivial, but are any of you > familiar with the chocolate eggs > for children in Gemany? When there, our hosts > children got some, and I > thought they were so clever. I brought back a > couple dozen for kids in our > family here. they are a chocolate shell of > good tasting chocolate, the size > of an egg, then you break it open and inside > are the parts of a toy that can > be put together. Some of them were incredibly > clever, I thought. Our other > host joked that his granddaughter was > collecting the whole set, so this > required the purchase and sampling of many > eggs. Perhaps these can be found > here somewhere in the U.S. but I haven't found > them here in SW MO. Judy > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/

In a message dated 19-Nov-00 2:53:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: In a message dated 11/19/00 10:50:53 AM, you wrote: > Heinz-- > I don't eat uncooked fishes ANYWHERE!!!!! Ha! Judy > > <<Judy, > did you ever eat uncooked fished in a Japanese restaurant? > Heinz>> > That's called sushi and I've tried the Tuna. It's pretty good! And an ex-employer introduced me to it. She was born in Germany, too. Actually, sushi comes in a lot of varieties, served cold, but some of it is cooked. There is a squash sushi that is positively yummy. It's made with a piece of spiced squash, surrounded by rice and wrapped in a seaweed leaf. Dipped in rice wine vinegar it is excellent! I always ask for it for a treat when I babysit my grandkids (as if I needed incentive!) Cathy

Judy, did you ever eat uncooked fished in a Japanese restaurant? Heinz _________________________ Heinz L. Zulauf Flotowstrasse 9 D-64287 Darmstadt Germany e-mail: [email protected] Visit my Private Homepage "The Classical Music Site" http://myweb.vector.ch/zulauf _________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 2:41 PM Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Re: GERMAN-LIFE-D Digest V00 #315 > Hello, > The bit of talk about food on this list (rather than on the German food list) > has gotten me to thinking about the German food we had on our trips into my > ancestral villages in E. Germany. It was usually very good, but one occasion > was funny. One of the families we visited with were a retired couple who > lived in Magdeburg, and they took us to an incredible restaurant that was in > the basement of the "town hall?" was it? Had been there for several hundred > years, and had very interesting support arches all over, to support the > building on top. Very interesting architecture. We weren't able to read the > menu at all, and our host couple couldn't translate in a way we could > understand. Ursula couldn't speak any English, and Emil's was limited, often > going to his dictionary. Finally, I understood Ursula was having "fish" and > so decided that sounded hopeful, and also ordered it. Hubby finally > understood that Emil was having something to do with pork, and ordered the > same. When it came, my "fish" was pickled herring, apparently, as it was > cold, wet and slick. Ursula ate it with enjoyment, and I can remember my Mom > saying they ordered barrels of pickled herring from someplace when they first > married, and she loved it. Frankly, I could barely eat enough to be polite. > Meantime, hubby had gotten a plate with 2 items, one was something he didn't > like the looks of, either, I forget what it looked like, but the other looked > to him like a big dip of chili with no beans, sort of. It tasted good, and > he was eating that. He has always been a bit squeamish, and has made fun of > my love of beef tongue, etc. Before he was thru, he asked Emil exactly what > this was, and Emil replied "Blood", and with his accent, it was pronounced > just like Dracula says it. Hubby blanched, and that was the end of that for > him, also. Apparently it was "blood pudding". This has still struck us > funny. I sure am not putting down German type food, and we had some great > meals in Germany, but this one didn't turn out the greatest. LOL Judy >

In a message dated 11/19/00 10:50:53 AM, you wrote: Heinz-- I don't eat uncooked fishes ANYWHERE!!!!! Ha! Judy <<Judy, did you ever eat uncooked fished in a Japanese restaurant? Heinz>>

Thought I would forward this from another list. Theola *************************************************************8 > Today there is *Volkstrauertag* [National Day of Mourning] in Baden- > Württemberg and in the whole of Germany. > > It is not only a "Veterans' Day". On this day, nowadays, all the > victims of National Socialism and all the dead of the two Wold Wars, > including the civilians, are remembered. > > A *Volkstrauertag* was initiated by the *Volksbund Deutsche Kriegsgräber- > fürsorge* [German War Graves Commission] in 1920. From 1934 on the Nazis > used to call that day *Heldengedenktag* [Heroes' Remembrance Day] for > obvious reasons. The *Volkstrauertag* was revived immediately after the > end of the Second World War. > > The *Volksbund* have been doing a marvellous job in trying to find > war graves in the former Soviet Union and elsewhere with the intent > to be able to identify dead German soldiers and have very often been > able to tell the family where the son or father was buried. This is > a terribly difficult task as e.g. graves might now be hidden under a > car park, which formerly was a field, or after having found graves in > a forest the Volksbund discovered that defiler of graves had been there > before because they *collected souvenirs*, like the Iron Cross or, of > course, of more importance to them, the identity discs/tags, which they > sell. > > The *Voksbund* have been laying out new war cemeteries all the time and > are taking care of them. They are a registered charity organization that > mainly relies on donations. > > Regards, > > Lothar Schmid in Ludwigsburg > > > > ______________________________