Hi Claire, I will post it this evening on the food list. Katharina > >Hi Katharina -- could be -- do you have a recipe for the Hazelnussgebaeck? >Claire > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Katharina Hines" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 11:19 PM >Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Re: [GERMAN-FOOD] Fw: traditions for Christmas > > >If there alot of nuts in the cookie, it could be Hazelnut cookies >(Haselnußgebäck). >Katharina > > > >Thanks for your response Katharina -- but this is coarser and crunchier > >then > >lebkuchen. The nuts are like a fine coarse cut (if this makes sense) -- > >not > >big chunks but not ground to a flour. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Katharina Hines" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 6:07 PM > >Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Re: [GERMAN-FOOD] Fw: traditions for Christmas > > > > > >| Hi Claire, > >| I don't know every thing. I just was lucky to lived in Germany for >over > >20 > >| years. My grandmother raised me. So I learned a lot of the old > >traditions.As > >| a child I ask alot of questions. > >| > >| It could be Lebkuchen.Gingerbread > >| Because it is spicy and brown in color. > >| The made houses from them, ornaments in all different size and shapes > >| The would be hang on the tree or wall and good to eat. > >| I don't cut them out any more I am getting lazy. I make Lebkuchen bars. > >| I make my batter, put icing on and cut in squares. > >| Katharina > >| > > >| >I'm looking for a recipe that we bought from a bakery when I was a > >child -- > >| >and they were a nutty, slightly spicy, golden cinnamon colored cookie > >that > >| >were cut into hearts and diamonds and round scalloped. Does this >sound > >| >familiar to anyone -- Katharina you seem to know everything? This was > >the > >| >only cookie we bought and it was from a Swiss-German bakery that no > >longer > >| >exists. > >| > > >| >Thank you again. > >| >Claire > >| > > >| > > >| > > >| >==== GERMAN-FOOD Mailing List ==== > >| >Problems? > >| >Email [email protected] > >| > > >| > >| > >___________________________________________________________________________ >_ > >_________ > >| Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > >http://explorer.msn.com > >| > >| > > > >____________________________________________________________________________ >_________ >Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com > > > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Is there a chance that we can drop this thread, it does not pertain to German Culture? Gail List Host

Don't understand what the "angelfire" is all about.

Go to this site to see what LYCOS/ANGELFIRE is .... http://angelfire.lycos.com/ ...... ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 07:42 Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Re: GERMAN-LIFE-D Digest V00 #357 > Don't understand what the "angelfire" is all about. > >

thank you Claire ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Fw: traditions for Christmas | > I was wondering if anyone has a recipe for Basel Leckerli? | > | > I'm looking for a recipe that we bought from a bakery when I was a child | -- | > and they were a nutty, slightly spicy, golden cinnamon colored cooky that | > were cut into hearts and diamonds and round scalloped. Does this sound | > familiar to anyone -- Katharina you seem to know everything? This was the | > only cookie we bought and it was from a Swiss-German bakery that no longer | > exists. | > | > Thank you again. | > Claire | | Go to google.com Type in Basel Leckerli | | | Mike Mattes | El Paso, Texas | [email protected] | Searching for: MATTES, DINAN, DONOUGHUE, TUFFY, KEANLE/KIENLE | Germany, Ireland, Wayne Co., PA, Brooklyn and Queens, NY | I think my ancestors were born under a bridge and buried in the backyard. |

> I was wondering if anyone has a recipe for Basel Leckerli? > > I'm looking for a recipe that we bought from a bakery when I was a child -- > and they were a nutty, slightly spicy, golden cinnamon colored cooky that > were cut into hearts and diamonds and round scalloped. Does this sound > familiar to anyone -- Katharina you seem to know everything? This was the > only cookie we bought and it was from a Swiss-German bakery that no longer > exists. > > Thank you again. > Claire Go to google.com Type in Basel Leckerli Mike Mattes El Paso, Texas [email protected] Searching for: MATTES, DINAN, DONOUGHUE, TUFFY, KEANLE/KIENLE Germany, Ireland, Wayne Co., PA, Brooklyn and Queens, NY I think my ancestors were born under a bridge and buried in the backyard.

Hi everyone and keep the information flowing -- I love it! I was wondering if anyone has a recipe for Basel Leckerli? I'm looking for a recipe that we bought from a bakery when I was a child -- and they were a nutty, slightly spicy, golden cinnamon colored cooky that were cut into hearts and diamonds and round scalloped. Does this sound familiar to anyone -- Katharina you seem to know everything? This was the only cookie we bought and it was from a Swiss-German bakery that no longer exists. Thank you again. Claire

Hi Katharina -- could be -- do you have a recipe for the Hazelnussgebaeck? Claire ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katharina Hines" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Re: [GERMAN-FOOD] Fw: traditions for Christmas If there alot of nuts in the cookie, it could be Hazelnut cookies (Haselnußgebäck). Katharina > >Thanks for your response Katharina -- but this is coarser and crunchier >then >lebkuchen. The nuts are like a fine coarse cut (if this makes sense) -- >not >big chunks but not ground to a flour. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Katharina Hines" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 6:07 PM >Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Re: [GERMAN-FOOD] Fw: traditions for Christmas > > >| Hi Claire, >| I don't know every thing. I just was lucky to lived in Germany for over >20 >| years. My grandmother raised me. So I learned a lot of the old >traditions.As >| a child I ask alot of questions. >| >| It could be Lebkuchen.Gingerbread >| Because it is spicy and brown in color. >| The made houses from them, ornaments in all different size and shapes >| The would be hang on the tree or wall and good to eat. >| I don't cut them out any more I am getting lazy. I make Lebkuchen bars. >| I make my batter, put icing on and cut in squares. >| Katharina >| > >| >I'm looking for a recipe that we bought from a bakery when I was a >child -- >| >and they were a nutty, slightly spicy, golden cinnamon colored cookie >that >| >were cut into hearts and diamonds and round scalloped. Does this sound >| >familiar to anyone -- Katharina you seem to know everything? This was >the >| >only cookie we bought and it was from a Swiss-German bakery that no >longer >| >exists. >| > >| >Thank you again. >| >Claire >| > >| > >| > >| >==== GERMAN-FOOD Mailing List ==== >| >Problems? >| >Email [email protected] >| > >| >| >___________________________________________________________________________ _ >_________ >| Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com >| >| > ____________________________________________________________________________ _________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Alright, I hope I'm not the only person here who doesn't understand what pinging means. Can someone explain, please? The only pinging I know about has to do with a sound, and often relates to submarines! ;-) Dorie ----- Original Message ----- From: dick <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Pinging > Dan > > Thanks for the "info" ..... kinda justifies my suspicions about those > so called "free" website providers. > > All I can add is ........ (<g> ) AWK!! > > Guess it's time to "unlink" my genealogy site from Angelfire > > Dick S. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Reinhold" <[email protected]> > To: "dick" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 16:26 > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Pinging > > > > Dick and list. I'll respond with annotations ***. > > > > At 02:51 PM 12/05/2000 -0800, dick wrote: > > >Dan > > > > > >Who was this directed at? ... Since it wasn't sent to me > personally, > > >I assume it was meant for this "list"! > > *** Yes, it was for the list. > > > > > > > > >Are you saying that those who go to ANY of my (or any other) > > >ANGELFIRE sponsored webpages are being "pinged" by the > > >Lycos/Angelfire people, and having THEIR material taken ... or > were > > >you refering to the site itself being "pinged"? > > *** I expect that any connection to Angelfire will have the user get > pinged > > and information from his computer transferred to Angelfire, then is > will be > > compiled abd sold to others. This is a very common practice. > > > > > > > > >All the data ... graphics, etc is "stored" at Angelfire thru FTP, > > >wouldn't a firewall would prevent it (the page) from being > accessed? > > *** I am not sure without testing this. I expect that WSFTP would > transfer > > without giving up any information. > > > > > > > > >This is the first time I've heard this "accusation" ..... if > true, > > >would it also apply to sites done thru YAHOO / GEOCITIES ... > ANCESTRY > > >/ ROOTSWEB .... and others like them? > > *** It could, but I believe that these mentioned do NOT ping. I go > to all > > of these sites and have never been pinged by them. > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dick S. > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Daniel Reinhold" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 11:39 > > >Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Pinging > > > > > > > > > > The site: > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/testbase/ > > > > With the German / Austrian graves uses angelfire.com. This site > > >pings your > > > > computet and downloads information from it. I strongly reccomend > > >that you > > > > put up a firewall or never visit this site. > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > Daniel Gensemer REINHOLD III > > > > Web Page Designer - See: http://www.paperchase.com/ > > > > Clinton Computer Consultants > > > > RR 4 Box 45 > > > > Mill Hall, PA 17751-9622 > > > > Voice phone (570) 748-3201 > > > > Internet [email protected] > > > > > > > > My Motto is from John Stuart Mill "On Liberty": > > > > If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, and only one > person > > > > were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified > > > > in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, > would be > > > > justified in silencing mankind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > Daniel Gensemer REINHOLD III > > Web Page Designer - See: http://www.paperchase.com/ > > Clinton Computer Consultants > > RR 4 Box 45 > > Mill Hall, PA 17751-9622 > > Voice phone (570) 748-3201 > > Internet [email protected] > > > > My Motto is from John Stuart Mill "On Liberty": > > If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, and only one person > > were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified > > in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be > > justified in silencing mankind. > > > > > > >

Dick and list. I'll respond with annotations ***. At 02:51 PM 12/05/2000 -0800, dick wrote: >Dan > >Who was this directed at? ... Since it wasn't sent to me personally, >I assume it was meant for this "list"! *** Yes, it was for the list. >Are you saying that those who go to ANY of my (or any other) >ANGELFIRE sponsored webpages are being "pinged" by the >Lycos/Angelfire people, and having THEIR material taken ... or were >you refering to the site itself being "pinged"? *** I expect that any connection to Angelfire will have the user get pinged and information from his computer transferred to Angelfire, then is will be compiled abd sold to others. This is a very common practice. >All the data ... graphics, etc is "stored" at Angelfire thru FTP, >wouldn't a firewall would prevent it (the page) from being accessed? *** I am not sure without testing this. I expect that WSFTP would transfer without giving up any information. >This is the first time I've heard this "accusation" ..... if true, >would it also apply to sites done thru YAHOO / GEOCITIES ... ANCESTRY >/ ROOTSWEB .... and others like them? *** It could, but I believe that these mentioned do NOT ping. I go to all of these sites and have never been pinged by them. >Dick S. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daniel Reinhold" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 11:39 >Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Pinging > > > > The site: > > http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/testbase/ > > With the German / Austrian graves uses angelfire.com. This site >pings your > > computet and downloads information from it. I strongly reccomend >that you > > put up a firewall or never visit this site. > > > > Dan > > > > Daniel Gensemer REINHOLD III > > Web Page Designer - See: http://www.paperchase.com/ > > Clinton Computer Consultants > > RR 4 Box 45 > > Mill Hall, PA 17751-9622 > > Voice phone (570) 748-3201 > > Internet [email protected] > > > > My Motto is from John Stuart Mill "On Liberty": > > If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, and only one person > > were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified > > in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be > > justified in silencing mankind. > > > > Dan Daniel Gensemer REINHOLD III Web Page Designer - See: http://www.paperchase.com/ Clinton Computer Consultants RR 4 Box 45 Mill Hall, PA 17751-9622 Voice phone (570) 748-3201 Internet [email protected] My Motto is from John Stuart Mill "On Liberty": If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.

Germany fells forest swastika. Fall colors have always brought an embarrassment to one tranquil German village. When the needles turned golden brown, the trees suddenly formed a swastika visible from the air. No one remembers how the pastoral plains north of Berlin wound up with the lasting Nazi symbol more than 60 years ago. What ever the history, local officials want to make sure the pat no longer flowers in the rural village of Zernikow- and chain saw crews moved in Monday to take the trees down. Forest wardens thought they had banished Adolf Hitler's ghost five years ago when they cut down some of the larches, which change colors in the fall and contrast with surrounding evergreen pines to form a swastika. but the remaining trees grew to fill in the spaces, and the symbol was visible again this fall. Officials in the eastern state of Brandenburg say the relic near Zernikow, 60 miles north of Berlin, is an eyesore in that area they would rather have known for the natural beauty of its lakes and heaths. They also got tired of the publicity, hardly helpful for a region that often makes headlines because of racist violence, and apparently feared the forest could attract neo- Nazi pilgrims. " This is something of a wound, so we really want to do something." state agriculture minister spokesman Jens-Uwe Schade said. Why the conifers were planted to honor the Führer it is a mystery that's hard to unravel decades later. A local forestwarden is believed to have planted them in 1938, Schade said. German media have offered at least two theories about the reason: He wanted to help the local manor owner show he was a good Nazi or, a simple conformist, he acted on Nazi orders. Either way, chain saws broke the morning silence at the 200- by 200 foot site Monday as forest workers began felling 245 of the 57 trees, hoping to break up the offensive pattern once and far all. Schade said forest swastikas were planted at several places during the Nazi era, but others had been removed long ago. For a dedicated forester, Monday' s tree clearing also had a sad note,- because larches have a life span of a good 200 years. Politically , it is correct to destroy the witness to those times, said forester Ulrich Koch. But unfortunately we are also bringing down larches we would rather have left standing. This in a story I read today in the paper. Katharina _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Simply put, "pinging" is a means of seeing how fast it's sent ... and where your email is routed through ... in most cases it's a tool used by programmers and "pro" website developers There are many sites where a "ping" utility can be found / downloaded ...... TUCOWS would be one such place All told, I wouldn't get overly concerned, unless you've got some extremely "sensitive/personal material on your computer. Dick S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike and Dorie Brennecke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 18:09 Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Pinging > Alright, I hope I'm not the only person here who doesn't understand what > pinging means. Can someone explain, please? The only pinging I know about > has to do with a sound, and often relates to submarines! ;-) Dorie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dick <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Pinging > > > > Dan > > > > Thanks for the "info" ..... kinda justifies my suspicions about those > > so called "free" website providers. > > > > All I can add is ........ (<g> ) AWK!! > > > > Guess it's time to "unlink" my genealogy site from Angelfire > > > > Dick S. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Daniel Reinhold" <[email protected]> > > To: "dick" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 16:26 > > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Pinging > > > > > > > Dick and list. I'll respond with annotations ***. > > > > > > At 02:51 PM 12/05/2000 -0800, dick wrote: > > > >Dan > > > > > > > >Who was this directed at? ... Since it wasn't sent to me > > personally, > > > >I assume it was meant for this "list"! > > > *** Yes, it was for the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > >Are you saying that those who go to ANY of my (or any other) > > > >ANGELFIRE sponsored webpages are being "pinged" by the > > > >Lycos/Angelfire people, and having THEIR material taken ... or > > were > > > >you refering to the site itself being "pinged"? > > > *** I expect that any connection to Angelfire will have the user get > > pinged > > > and information from his computer transferred to Angelfire, then is > > will be > > > compiled abd sold to others. This is a very common practice. > > > > > > > > > > > > >All the data ... graphics, etc is "stored" at Angelfire thru FTP, > > > >wouldn't a firewall would prevent it (the page) from being > > accessed? > > > *** I am not sure without testing this. I expect that WSFTP would > > transfer > > > without giving up any information. > > > > > > > > > > > > >This is the first time I've heard this "accusation" ..... if > > true, > > > >would it also apply to sites done thru YAHOO / GEOCITIES ... > > ANCESTRY > > > >/ ROOTSWEB .... and others like them? > > > *** It could, but I believe that these mentioned do NOT ping. I go > > to all > > > of these sites and have never been pinged by them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dick S. > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Daniel Reinhold" <[email protected]> > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 11:39 > > > >Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Pinging > > > > > > > > > > > > > The site: > > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/testbase/ > > > > > With the German / Austrian graves uses angelfire.com. This site > > > >pings your > > > > > computet and downloads information from it. I strongly reccomend > > > >that you > > > > > put up a firewall or never visit this site. > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > Daniel Gensemer REINHOLD III > > > > > Web Page Designer - See: http://www.paperchase.com/ > > > > > Clinton Computer Consultants > > > > > RR 4 Box 45 > > > > > Mill Hall, PA 17751-9622 > > > > > Voice phone (570) 748-3201 > > > > > Internet [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > My Motto is from John Stuart Mill "On Liberty": > > > > > If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, and only one > > person > > > > > were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified > > > > > in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, > > would be > > > > > justified in silencing mankind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > Daniel Gensemer REINHOLD III > > > Web Page Designer - See: http://www.paperchase.com/ > > > Clinton Computer Consultants > > > RR 4 Box 45 > > > Mill Hall, PA 17751-9622 > > > Voice phone (570) 748-3201 > > > Internet [email protected] > > > > > > My Motto is from John Stuart Mill "On Liberty": > > > If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, and only one person > > > were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified > > > in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be > > > justified in silencing mankind. > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Dan Thanks for the "info" ..... kinda justifies my suspicions about those so called "free" website providers. All I can add is ........ (<g> ) AWK!! Guess it's time to "unlink" my genealogy site from Angelfire Dick S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Reinhold" <[email protected]> To: "dick" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 16:26 Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Pinging > Dick and list. I'll respond with annotations ***. > > At 02:51 PM 12/05/2000 -0800, dick wrote: > >Dan > > > >Who was this directed at? ... Since it wasn't sent to me personally, > >I assume it was meant for this "list"! > *** Yes, it was for the list. > > > > >Are you saying that those who go to ANY of my (or any other) > >ANGELFIRE sponsored webpages are being "pinged" by the > >Lycos/Angelfire people, and having THEIR material taken ... or were > >you refering to the site itself being "pinged"? > *** I expect that any connection to Angelfire will have the user get pinged > and information from his computer transferred to Angelfire, then is will be > compiled abd sold to others. This is a very common practice. > > > > >All the data ... graphics, etc is "stored" at Angelfire thru FTP, > >wouldn't a firewall would prevent it (the page) from being accessed? > *** I am not sure without testing this. I expect that WSFTP would transfer > without giving up any information. > > > > >This is the first time I've heard this "accusation" ..... if true, > >would it also apply to sites done thru YAHOO / GEOCITIES ... ANCESTRY > >/ ROOTSWEB .... and others like them? > *** It could, but I believe that these mentioned do NOT ping. I go to all > of these sites and have never been pinged by them. > > > > > > >Dick S. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Daniel Reinhold" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 11:39 > >Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Pinging > > > > > > > The site: > > > http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/testbase/ > > > With the German / Austrian graves uses angelfire.com. This site > >pings your > > > computet and downloads information from it. I strongly reccomend > >that you > > > put up a firewall or never visit this site. > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > Daniel Gensemer REINHOLD III > > > Web Page Designer - See: http://www.paperchase.com/ > > > Clinton Computer Consultants > > > RR 4 Box 45 > > > Mill Hall, PA 17751-9622 > > > Voice phone (570) 748-3201 > > > Internet [email protected] > > > > > > My Motto is from John Stuart Mill "On Liberty": > > > If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, and only one person > > > were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified > > > in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be > > > justified in silencing mankind. > > > > > > > > > Dan > > Daniel Gensemer REINHOLD III > Web Page Designer - See: http://www.paperchase.com/ > Clinton Computer Consultants > RR 4 Box 45 > Mill Hall, PA 17751-9622 > Voice phone (570) 748-3201 > Internet [email protected] > > My Motto is from John Stuart Mill "On Liberty": > If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, and only one person > were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified > in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be > justified in silencing mankind. > > >

I just re-read your posting .... I sincerely hope you're NOT saying that I'm "stealing" other peoples material!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Reinhold" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 11:39 Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Pinging > The site: > http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/testbase/ > With the German / Austrian graves uses angelfire.com. This site pings your > computet and downloads information from it. I stromgly reccomend that you > put up a firewall or never visit this site. > > Dan > > Daniel Gensemer REINHOLD III > Web Page Designer - See: http://www.paperchase.com/ > Clinton Computer Consultants > RR 4 Box 45 > Mill Hall, PA 17751-9622 > Voice phone (570) 748-3201 > Internet [email protected] > > My Motto is from John Stuart Mill "On Liberty": > If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, and only one person > were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified > in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be > justified in silencing mankind. > >

Dan Who was this directed at? ... Since it wasn't sent to me personally, I assume it was meant for this "list"! Are you saying that those who go to ANY of my (or any other) ANGELFIRE sponsored webpages are being "pinged" by the Lycos/Angelfire people, and having THEIR material taken ... or were you refering to the site itself being "pinged"? All the data ... graphics, etc is "stored" at Angelfire thru FTP, wouldn't a firewall would prevent it (the page) from being accessed? This is the first time I've heard this "accusation" ..... if true, would it also apply to sites done thru YAHOO / GEOCITIES ... ANCESTRY / ROOTSWEB .... and others like them? Dick S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Reinhold" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 11:39 Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Pinging > The site: > http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/testbase/ > With the German / Austrian graves uses angelfire.com. This site pings your > computet and downloads information from it. I stromgly reccomend that you > put up a firewall or never visit this site. > > Dan > > Daniel Gensemer REINHOLD III > Web Page Designer - See: http://www.paperchase.com/ > Clinton Computer Consultants > RR 4 Box 45 > Mill Hall, PA 17751-9622 > Voice phone (570) 748-3201 > Internet [email protected] > > My Motto is from John Stuart Mill "On Liberty": > If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, and only one person > were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified > in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be > justified in silencing mankind. > >

The site: http://www.angelfire.com/wa2/testbase/ With the German / Austrian graves uses angelfire.com. This site pings your computet and downloads information from it. I stromgly reccomend that you put up a firewall or never visit this site. Dan Daniel Gensemer REINHOLD III Web Page Designer - See: http://www.paperchase.com/ Clinton Computer Consultants RR 4 Box 45 Mill Hall, PA 17751-9622 Voice phone (570) 748-3201 Internet [email protected] My Motto is from John Stuart Mill "On Liberty": If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.

[email protected] wrote: > > Stan, > sounds like a 'Hefezopf'. > Here is a recipe: http://www.keil.net/new_page_5.htm > It calls for 'Schwabenmehl' - you can use all purpose flour. > Mary-Ann > Thanks very much. I went there and bookmarked the site. I also requested confirmation that Schwaebischer Hefezopf is the same thing as salt rising bread. I'll let you know what they say. > > Stan from Livonia > >>

[email protected] wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > I think my grandmother used to make salt rising bread. I used the google.com > search engine and there are a lot of recipes. Below is one that sounded > good. Apparrently it is not the easiest bread to make. > > > Karen JENTER > Michigan > USA > Many thanks for the recipe. I might take up cooking myself. Stan from Livonia, MI

In my home town the Kirmes was a fall fest.( It is a village fest). Katharina > >Since we are on the topic of German holidays, I wonder if anyone has heard >of a holiday called Kerpner Kirmes. In letters from German relatives >living in Wisconsin (dated 1880-98) there are references to a big party >that happens on Oct. 3rd after the corn has been "bushed" and the turnips >are finished. In the afternoon there is bird shooting and at night there >is a big dance. From one letter: "Can you call/dance the German >Quadrille?". There are letters saying "it is best to come to our house >rather than [the other cousins' house], because we live on the plain and >they live in the valley where you can't see anything" (but see what?). > >At any rate is Kerpner Kirmes some sort of dialect phrase for Ocktoberfest? > These folks were from the Cologne and Bonn areas. > >Thanks, >Sue Schafer/Schaefer >Seattle > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

If there alot of nuts in the cookie, it could be Hazelnut cookies (Haselnußgebäck). Katharina > >Thanks for your response Katharina -- but this is coarser and crunchier >then >lebkuchen. The nuts are like a fine coarse cut (if this makes sense) -- >not >big chunks but not ground to a flour. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Katharina Hines" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 6:07 PM >Subject: [GERMAN-LIFE] Re: [GERMAN-FOOD] Fw: traditions for Christmas > > >| Hi Claire, >| I don't know every thing. I just was lucky to lived in Germany for over >20 >| years. My grandmother raised me. So I learned a lot of the old >traditions.As >| a child I ask alot of questions. >| >| It could be Lebkuchen.Gingerbread >| Because it is spicy and brown in color. >| The made houses from them, ornaments in all different size and shapes >| The would be hang on the tree or wall and good to eat. >| I don't cut them out any more I am getting lazy. I make Lebkuchen bars. >| I make my batter, put icing on and cut in squares. >| Katharina >| > >| >I'm looking for a recipe that we bought from a bakery when I was a >child -- >| >and they were a nutty, slightly spicy, golden cinnamon colored cookie >that >| >were cut into hearts and diamonds and round scalloped. Does this sound >| >familiar to anyone -- Katharina you seem to know everything? This was >the >| >only cookie we bought and it was from a Swiss-German bakery that no >longer >| >exists. >| > >| >Thank you again. >| >Claire >| > >| > >| > >| >==== GERMAN-FOOD Mailing List ==== >| >Problems? >| >Email [email protected] >| > >| >| >____________________________________________________________________________ >_________ >| Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >http://explorer.msn.com >| >| > _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com