Hey Ross, Let me tell you a story about Spätzle. It was about 1961, and I had met my wife, who had emigrated from Germany in 1959. I decided that I would begin courting. As I began , she made me a lunch of Schäbischepfannekuchen. It was there and then that I told myself that "This confirms, I must court in earnest." The next week, she made me a German dinner that included Spätzle vom Brett. (for those that don't know the term, it is the original way of making spätzle. The dough is put on a wooden cutting board (brett) and then using a large knife cut the dough into small pieces into the boiling water.) I said to myself, "This is the person for me- I cannot let her get away from me." We were married ........and that was the last time I had Schwäbische pfannekuchen and Spätzle vom brett for over 40 years. However, I must admit, if the Kaesespätzle was made from Spätzle vom Brett, I would join you and raise a Schwabenbraeu as well. PS - Ross, do you know what really draws me to the Schwabenbraeu. It is the pop cap that goes on the top of the bottle. It allows you to have half a bottle and snap it back on to save for later. Best regards Ralf At 06:12 PM 6/12/01 -0400, you wrote: >Ah, Ralf: I'd hoist a Schwabenbraeu with you anytime !! How about over a >good platter of Kaesespaetzle ?? !! :-))) > > And, if you go to Australia, don't refer to your bum bag as a "fanny pack." >Hoo boy !!! > >Dave Ross > > > > >==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== >GERMAN-FOOD-L@rootsweb.com to subscribe send a message to: >GERMAN-FOOD-L-request@rootsweb.com and add the word SUBSCRIBE in the message and send. > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Ah, Ralf: I'd hoist a Schwabenbraeu with you anytime !! How about over a good platter of Kaesespaetzle ?? !! :-))) And, if you go to Australia, don't refer to your bum bag as a "fanny pack." Hoo boy !!! Dave Ross

Gail: I couldn't agree more. As an example, I will cite a news report of over 30 years ago. Apparently the makers of Vix Vapour Rub wished to expand into Germany. They put on a very concentrated sales campaign in Germany when the introduced their product, only to find that Vix, pronounced in German Fix, was a very vulgar sexual slang term. Apparently the Vix vapour rub, whoever they were then were very embarrassed, and were of course subject to a great deal of derision in Germany. If you go to Germany now, and catch a chest cold, you may wish to buy Wix Vapour Rub, because that is the way it is spelled today. Regardless of this, however, I would draw the line at Neo Nazi propaganda. The Baden-Wurtemberg list had a fellow join who signed on as HorstWessel@ etc. and while he was very knowledgeable, he kept spouting the Neo Nazi line. He was invited to leave the list. For those wondering who Horst Wessel was, just go to google and type in the name. My favourite German beer is Schwabenbraeu, only available in Schwabenland. Ralf Aldrich At 01:22 PM 6/12/01 -0700, you wrote: > > Ok, when someone posts something to this mail list, a mail list that is for > sharing German life and for having fun with our fellow mail list members who > are of the German heritage it is VERY untactful to send emails to an > individual privately telling them you don't like what they posted.  If you > don't like it, delete it and move on with your day.  We are not here to > criticizes other peoples emails... how would you like it if you got > bombarded with private mails about something that you posted... we are not > perfect and there has been nothing posted on this list that in some way > isn't comical, entertaining, knowledgeable.  Barbara for instance, posted > something and got a not so nice reply so she stopped posting... Mark posted > a nursery rhyme.... we all have different beliefs and tastes and if you are > in a crowd of people and if something is said that you don't like in the > crowd you move away from the subject and move on...do the same here... you > are in a crowd of almost 400 people and the option is yours to read or > delete.... > > Gail > List ????? > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE from digest mode send a message to: > GERMAN-LIFE-D-request@rootsweb.com  and add the word  UNSUBSCRIBE  in the > message and send. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > <http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Amen Gail !! On another list today, to a person who was picking extremely sour grapes, I said (on the list) just about the same thing. If we want to let our feelings hang out on our sleeves, then we need to get a life somewhere else. Let's have fun, join in the fun, or shut up !! Dave Ross

Theola, your Blackberry cordial explosion story brought reminders of our own Ed's Red (#3 son's homebrew). No one was home when a few bottles exploded in the basement. I found out when I went down to do some laundry. Everything smelled of beer! Since it was his mess, I let him clean it up. Eventually he bought his own place and moved out, beer and all. He told everyone the main reason he bought his own place was that his mother wouldn't let him fill the refrigerator with homebrew. Can you imagine? I told him I needed space for food. His response: "Beer is the PERFECT food." He's had at least one minor explosion at his home. BTW, his second reason for moving out was that we bought a minivan, and he thought we bought it to help him move. Lois

Sounds like a little bit of heritage pops out in all of us... I was making some wine and knew I was going to be gone for a week and my Dad was coming up to the house to check everything while I was gone... so I put my two crocks in the sink and covered them....mistake!!! I guess my peach wine blew all over my white kitchen with its black floor... my Dad said that he scrubbed and scrubbed, ceiling to floor cleaning up my ungodly wine mess... he never let me live that one down... g

I am proud to say, that the members of this list have been very open minded about their questions and replies on the Nazi area and if we have a spouter like your former mail lister, he would be gone from here too.... we have grown and we have learned..... Gail

Ok, when someone posts something to this mail list, a mail list that is for sharing German life and for having fun with our fellow mail list members who are of the German heritage it is VERY untactful to send emails to an individual privately telling them you don't like what they posted. If you don't like it, delete it and move on with your day. We are not here to criticizes other peoples emails... how would you like it if you got bombarded with private mails about something that you posted... we are not perfect and there has been nothing posted on this list that in some way isn't comical, entertaining, knowledgeable. Barbara for instance, posted something and got a not so nice reply so she stopped posting... Mark posted a nursery rhyme.... we all have different beliefs and tastes and if you are in a crowd of people and if something is said that you don't like in the crowd you move away from the subject and move on...do the same here... you are in a crowd of almost 400 people and the option is yours to read or delete.... Gail List ?????

On 12 Jun 2001, at 7:45, JudyMcKinn@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > > "Fischers Fritze fischte"..........etc. > What is this--the German equivelent of "Peter Piper picked a peck of > Pickled peppers....."? If so, is there a rough translation? Just > curious, as it sounds like a real tongue twister. LOL Judy Yes, it's the pied piper of Germany. :-) To translate: boy this is tough. Premise - there is son named Fritz Fischer. So, Fischer's Fritz fished fresh fish, fresh fish were caught by Fischer's Fritz ... Fred

Theola, I'm going to sue you. I just fell off my chair laughing. Just kidding about the sue. I'm going to send this story to all my friends. Barbara >From: "Theola Walden Baker" <bakermail@alltel.net> >Reply-To: GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com >To: GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Re:American Beer >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 03:02:50 -0700 > >Was the Czech beer really bitter? Yuck. I know a German in B-W who swears >Czech beer is the best. > >My husband's experiment with micro-brewing produced something (I hesitate >to >call it beer) very dark and with an alcohol content approaching that of >Everclear. > >I used to make some wonderful wild Blackberry cordial that I would serve on >holidays and give as gifts. Amazingly, though, it would sometimes turn >into >sparkling wine. I never could figure out how I did that. I used to bottle >it in Grolsch beer bottles--you know the ones with ceramic stoppers and >wire >bales. Well, one year the stuff was so potent they started blowing their >tops. The first time was in the middle of the night. I thought a gun had >gone off in the house. Scared me Scheiße-less. I don't know how many >hundreds of pounds of pressure there was in the pink bubbly, but those >stoppers and bales were no match. You should have seen my pink-purple, >formerly white ceiling. For about a week I was spending my days washing >walls and furniture after each sticky explosion. As I recall, I lost 7 >bottles. Got to where I was scared to get near the bottles, even to remove >them from the house. I was afraid I'd get killed. (And my death >certificate would read "due to wine." What would my future descendants >think of that?!!) I swore off the stuff after that year. > >Theola > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Newtross@aol.com> >To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:33 AM >Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Re:American Beer > > >| Ah yes, Lois: The minibrews, my experience has shown, that are now quite >| prevalent in various locales are really quite superior to the "canned" >beer >| available in stores. I've never, for instance, been a particular fan of >| Budweiser (though my wife is, if she's going to drink American beer at >all), >| though I like Michelob. We were very recently in the Czech Republic and >had >| opportunity to try the original Budweis -- and we didn't care for it at >all >| !! Tastes do vary :-)) >| >| Dave Ross >| >| ______________________________ > > > >==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== >Complaints: >Contact the list administrator at: GERMAN-LIFE-L-admin@rootsweb.com > >============================== >Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history >learning and how-to articles on the Internet. >http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

In a message dated 06/10/2001 7:05:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, GERMAN-LIFE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > You know in this computer world with all the technology I had wanted my kids > and grandkids to see the information on the site and I was in shock when > there was nothing but I sat here and cried when Fran sent me the info. My > grandfather is the only one in ALL my family that immigrated that came thru > Ellis Island. When I say ALL, I am 100% of German heritage... so my > mother's side came into earlier ports.. Castle Garden, I think. > > Gail > > All of my Grandparents who arrived in NY in the 1860 to 1890's came thru Castle Garden. There is a great site about it and how it was used. Go to google and just type in Castle Garden, now called Castle Clinton. Betty

Hi, "Fischers Fritze fischte"..........etc. What is this--the German equivelent of "Peter Piper picked a peck of Pickled peppers....."? If so, is there a rough translation? Just curious, as it sounds like a real tongue twister. LOL Judy

Was the Czech beer really bitter? Yuck. I know a German in B-W who swears Czech beer is the best. My husband's experiment with micro-brewing produced something (I hesitate to call it beer) very dark and with an alcohol content approaching that of Everclear. I used to make some wonderful wild Blackberry cordial that I would serve on holidays and give as gifts. Amazingly, though, it would sometimes turn into sparkling wine. I never could figure out how I did that. I used to bottle it in Grolsch beer bottles--you know the ones with ceramic stoppers and wire bales. Well, one year the stuff was so potent they started blowing their tops. The first time was in the middle of the night. I thought a gun had gone off in the house. Scared me Scheiße-less. I don't know how many hundreds of pounds of pressure there was in the pink bubbly, but those stoppers and bales were no match. You should have seen my pink-purple, formerly white ceiling. For about a week I was spending my days washing walls and furniture after each sticky explosion. As I recall, I lost 7 bottles. Got to where I was scared to get near the bottles, even to remove them from the house. I was afraid I'd get killed. (And my death certificate would read "due to wine." What would my future descendants think of that?!!) I swore off the stuff after that year. Theola ----- Original Message ----- From: <Newtross@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] Re:American Beer | Ah yes, Lois: The minibrews, my experience has shown, that are now quite | prevalent in various locales are really quite superior to the "canned" beer | available in stores. I've never, for instance, been a particular fan of | Budweiser (though my wife is, if she's going to drink American beer at all), | though I like Michelob. We were very recently in the Czech Republic and had | opportunity to try the original Budweis -- and we didn't care for it at all | !! Tastes do vary :-)) | | Dave Ross | | ______________________________

On 11 Jun 2001, at 18:45, _Mark wrote: > Sorry if I offended someone with an attempt of "humor". I found > this little saying at a German site. Not an American site. Any > misspelling of the phrase would be theirs. Not mine. Why is everybody so apologetic here all the time. No one was offended. It's just that Fischers Fritze fischte .. has been ingrained in my mind since I was a kid. One stumbles on the words, no? Fred

By the way Mark, it's your spelling which I know as well :) _________________________ Heinz L. Zulauf Flotowstrasse 9 D-64287 Darmstadt Germany zulauf@bigfoot.de _______________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "_Mark" <markme59@mindspring.com> To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] A Little Humor For The List > Sorry if I offended someone with an attempt of "humor". I found this > little saying at a German site. Not an American site. Any misspelling of the > phrase would be theirs. Not mine. > > Mark Overlock > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <FredRump@earthlink.net> > To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, 10 June, 2001 08:55 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] A Little Humor For The List > > > > On 10 Jun 2001, at 18:54, _Mark wrote: > > > > > Fischers Fritz fischt frische Fische, frische Fische fischt Fischers > > > Fritz. > > > > Well, if we're going to stumble we might as well do it right. > > > > Fischers Fritze fischte frische Fische, frische Fische fischte > > Fischers Fritze. > > > > Fred > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from digest mode send a message to: > > GERMAN-LIFE-D-request@rootsweb.com and add the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the > message and send. > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Check the German Food list out at: > GERMAN-FOOD-L@rootsweb.com to subscribe send a message to: > GERMAN-FOOD-L-request@rootsweb.com and add the word SUBSCRIBE in the message and send. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

I agree Fred, more people seem to apologize for what they said when we are all here for the fun of it, well Fred and Heinz do get into things a little deeeeeper.... but seriously, say what you want but don't flame......ugh!!! ;-) Gail

Hi, guess I'll jump in also. The Ellis Island site can be used as an index to find the microfilmed copy of the passenger list from NARA or the LDS. As a volunteer at NARA, pouring through their indexes is very time consuming. I'm very happy they are there. But the EI site can cut through a lot of that searching. The more indexes we have, the more we can find. Elsie PS Please be gentle with me, God isn't finished with me yet. :-) Katharina Hines wrote: > > > > > > > Well, if everyone is bored let us start a new topic... Ellis Island.. > > > > > > > > > >Since mine all came pre-Ellis Island the only one I've checked for is my > >husband's grandmother and she's not there either. It's likely that the > >first > >time she came was pre-Ellis Island, but we know she went back to Germany > >for > >a while. > I went on Vacation to New York, and went to Ellis Island. > I was told then, that most of the information you get from Ellis Island > were posted from the family. > Because we looked for a relative, were we know, that he came thru Ellis > Island. He was not listed. > You are better off, when you get the ships records from the harbor were > the ship departed. > Katharina > Katharina > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > Complaints: > Contact the list administrator at: GERMAN-LIFE-L-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

I will be there before you, in July! Seriously, I have been to 3 museums that I can highly recommend. 1. Hessen Park is a wonderful open-air depiction of life in the state of Hessen. 2. Vogtsbauernhof, in Wuerttemberg. 3. Can't remember the name of it, but a farm museum between Illertissen and Ulm, I think, which was also very interesting. Karen Celia Mitschelen wrote: > > For those interested in learning more about how their ancestors lived, and I > believe that was at least part of the purpose of starting this List, the > Freilicht (open-air) Museums should not be overlooked on your visits to > Germany. > > Most of these are agriculturally based as that was the way of life for the > majority of people. They will vary from area to area as did the culture of > the times. I find them all interesting. > > There is an industrial one at Hagen which we also enjoyed very much. It was > built along a stream which was used for power until eventually it was > changed to electricity and continued in use up into the 20th century, 1930s > I think. I have a sickle which I watched a man make starting with a short > round iron bar and moving from station to station for different operations. > We came in too late to see the demonstration and were just looking at the > machinery when he recognized a foreigner and offered to do a demonstration > for the 3 of us. Of course as soon as the machinery started making a noise > people flocked in but every time he moved he would motion me to the front to > a good viewing area. When finished he wrapped it in newspaper and presented > it to me. It was not sharpened only shaped with one end of the original bar > for the handle and the curved sickle blade the other. Sharpening was > apparently done some place else or perhaps left out for a safety precaution. > > Up the hill farther where it leveled out there was a bakery. The bread is no > longer made there but brought out to be baked in the ovens. We bought a loaf > of hot raisin bread and sat and tore it apart in chunks and devoured it with > nothing on it. I never tasted anything better. We tried to buy another loaf > but by then it was all gone. We waited a short while until another kind came > out of the ovens but we'll never forget that hot raisin bread. > > One of my favorite spots in Wuerttemberg is Blautopf at Blaubeuren. It is a > geological oddity, a small flowing spring fed by an underground river. The > caves the river runs through have been explored mainly by one man, Jochen > Hasenmayer who has been a leading cave explorer in Europe. The water is > clear and is chemically colored by copper compounds leached out of the > limestone. The beauty and intensity of the color is unbelievable. Do a > search for Blaubeuren there is a site with the story and pictures. There is > a famous Kloster there as well. I have a neat picture of Blautopf with the > spire of the Cloister reflected in the water. I found a site with some > pictures but they do not do just to the magnificent color of Blautopf. The > ones I took are much better color-wise. > > One last thing, check out your "home town" to see if they have a > Heimatmuseum. Many do and the artifacts displayed there will be those of > your ancestors and their neighbors. You may even find them mentioned or > pictured. > > Celia, who won't get there until September > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jerry & Chris Thiessen <jthiesen@ipa.net> > To: <GERMAN-LIFE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 11:34 AM > Subject: RE: Re: [GERMAN-LIFE] NO MAIL > > > > > Ralf, > > > > Thank you for sharing your trip. I long for the cool air of the > > Schwartzwald and the beautiful villages. Sigmaringen is a lovely spot. I > am > > familiar with most of the places you mentioned. We lived just south of > > Stuttgart in the small village of Mussberg for three years in the 90s. We > > were back a couple of years ago for a visit. I am homesick just reading > > your post! > > Chris in MO > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this mail list send a message to: > > GERMAN-LIFE-L-request@rootsweb.com and in the message add the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and send. > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > ==== GERMAN-LIFE Mailing List ==== > GERMAN-FOOD-L@rootsweb.com to subscribe send a message to: > GERMAN-FOOD-L-request@rootsweb.com and add the word SUBSCRIBE in the message and send. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

My father was at Cornell University for nine months, 1943-1944 during the war for German instruction. Although, as a young boy his family spoke only German in the home and he spoke it very fluently. He was during the war an interpreter. He investigated and processed questionnaires of Germans. Also interpreted in German for officers and translated. He was with H 52nd CO A MIL GOVT. REGT. Karen

While I missed the group that went in May, I am planning on 4 weeks in July-August, and am open to any and all suggestions. We arrive in Düsseldorf on the 12th, and spend the first night in Nürnberg and the second night in München. We will be driving, by the way, and staying in Ibis Hotels, which we reserved on the internet. Then on Saturday we are off to Grundlsee to a timeshare for one week. The following week we will spend 7 days in Oberstaufen in a timeshare. I have seen Lindau, Meersburg, Uberlingen, etc. and would like any other suggestions. I was thinking about Kempten, as I have never been there. From there we will spend a night in Haguenau, and hope to see Freiburg and Colmar on the way. The next night we will spend in Luxembourg City and hope to see Metz on the way. Any other ideas I might have missed? Thanks.