Debbie & Dieter, If you use the JewishGen shtetl seeker: <http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm> and use the Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex system, you will find Azelshof (as Eichelshof) at Lat.49.18/ Long. 9.32 in Baden-Wurttemberg near the Neckar River. MapQuest says 278.6 Miles SW of Berlin, but it looks further than that. Gross-Butzin (Grossbutzin) is 53.53/12.28, 102 Miles NNW of Berlin in Mecklenberg. Hope this helps. Pat Schubert Zippin >At 7:01 PM -0700 9/28/99, [email protected] wrote: >In a message dated 9/28/99 5:02:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< Because I did not find any Azelshof or Groß-Bützin in my maps, > Sorry.> > Dieter >> > >Ah, this is not good news, Dieter! The USA (Buffalo, NY) German Evangelical >church records for the children's baptisms list these two places for the >towns of birth for the WITT and KRUEGER parents! >I need to find more maps? I have to explore other types of >records? (will do this in any case) >debbie in california > >______________________________