For more information on Mecklenberg try http://pages.prodigy.net/jhbowen/. You will be able to find the 1819 census microfilm number that covers your Gross Buetzin Arnold ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 9:01 PM Subject: [GERMANKING] Gross Buetzin and Azelshof > Hello Dieter, Don, Pat, Curt? and listmembers, > > First, let me thank you all for working on this with me. I hope this topic > is not now boring several of you on the list! It appears there are a few > scenarios being put forward as possible answers for finding these two towns. > > 1) Gross Buetzin - in the former Grand Duchy of Mecklenburg-Schwerin in > today's Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Azelshof as an "unknown" but with three > possible closeby names: Amalienhof, Annenhof and Axelshof. > > 2) No Gross Buetzin - but rather go with "Gross Buelten" (southeast of > Hannover and west of Braunschweig). This would make it the former Kingdom of > Hannover. Azelshof is again an "unknown" but there is an "Asel" 10 miles > from Gross Buelten. > > 3) Gross Buetzin (now spelled "Gross-Butzin") - again in the Mecklenburg > area - then with the JewishGen shtetl seeker and the Daitch-Mokotoff Soundex > system - get "Eichelshof" for the Azelshof - and thus find it in > Baden-Wurttenberg near the Neckar River. > > 4) "Butzen" in Brandenburg - and "nothing close to Azelshof" nearby. > > 5) And then of course there is the map program (maps.excite.com) that > wrongly told me that both town names not only exist, but indiscriminately > placed them in the middle of the country - leading me to the postings about > "Thuringia".!! (as Dieter pointed out, any town name it doesn't recognize, > it simply places "there"). > > A thought - where is that "GEOS" program again? I could try both names in > that and see what it finds too... > > It's looking to me like Gross Buetzin in MS is the likely place to start - > and it matches "exactly" to what the parish registers said. (with the umlaut > over the u of course, instead of my ue written in instead). Then, that > "Axelshof" Dieter mentioned as one possible nearby location is really "close" > in spelling to the "Azelshof". Not sure if it is close "by sound". > > Dieter, might I take you up on your offer to call Gross Buetzin tomorrow and > see what they think a likely "Azelshof" might be? Please let me know if this > is a toll call of any kind for you - so I can reimburse any costs you have to > place a call. > > As for specific names/dates you asked about - they would be: > 1) For Gross Buetzin: Ernst WITT - born 08 Oct 1854 > 2) For Azelshof: Maria W KRUEGER - born 31 May 1859. Family says her > father: Christian F Carl KRUEGER was born 23 April 1824. (married to a > Sophia HIllman?) > > Ernst & Maria's birthdates are from their US death certificates and therefore > are not yet "proven" until the actual birth records are found and Maria's > father's birthdate comes "from family" so I don't really know if it is > accurate or not. > > (Again, Dieter, please contact me privately if you run into any costs on this > so I can compensate you....) > > I find Maria's siblings Hannah, Fred. and Whilamena here in the USA also, but > have never found the parents, so don't know if they left DEU or not.... > > debbie > (One good thing from all this - I went to my basic Encyclopedia Britannica > last night and found a _lot_ of information! Page 38 to page 180 and a great > overview to help my general understanding as I move more and more into > research there...) > > > > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Sister, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] >