In response to P. Duerfel's question, Herzog Ernst I of Sachsen=Gotha ruled in Gotha from 1641 to 1675 and his son Herzog Friedrich I followed from 1675 to 1691, then this Duke's son, Friedrich II, followed from 1693 to 1732 and then he in turn was followed by his son, Friedrich III from 1732 to 1772 etc. I hope you find this helpful. Regards, H.W. Mahler __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

Searching for information on my gr-gr-grandfather, Casper ANSCHUTZ, born in SAXE-MEININGEN (according to his naturalization petition) in 1831 (gravestone), died in Cuyahoga Co, OH (Cleveland) 11 Jul 1896. He arrived in the US in April 1853, and was naturalized in Cleveland, 13 Jun 1860. On 13 Apr 1856 in Cuyahoga Co, he married Christiana BURKHART, born Gondelsheim, Baden, in 1831, died 29 May 1899. Casper & Christiana had the following children: Charles A; Louis R; Louisa A, m Robinson; William H; Emma K; Mary A; Edward C, and George C. I would be grateful for any information anyone may have on this family. Claire Mache ozobryum@netnitco.net, hcmerrill@usa.net

Ich suche Informationen zu folgenden Familiennamen aus Thüringen. Orte: Weissensee, Wenigensömmern, Schlossvippach, Ottenhausen, Leubingen, Erfurt-Hochheim Namen: Simon, Heise, Halle, We(h)nd, Büschel, Koch, Lessing-en, Wittig, Buchholz, Falls ein Nachname bekannt erscheint, schreiben Sie mir einfach. M.Lewerenz

> >Hi, >I need the date of birth from a Ernst August SELMER >married 1784 a Johanna Hedwig Wilhelmine Schröder in Neustrelitz. >Would be the date of birth listed on the on the marriage certification? >If it is listed on the marriage certificate, were do I write to,to get the >information >Schwerin or Neustrelitz? >Any help will be appreciated. >Thank you >Katharina >

> >Hi, >I need to look at some church records from Benzin. >I found 2 Benzin in Mecklenburg. >One between Ratzeburg and Schwerin, >the other one around Pachmin. >I found Church records from the LDS under >Evangelische Kirche Lübz. >Under which Church would be the other Benzin, between Ratzeburg and >Schwerin? >The copy of the 'Taufschein' says getauft in Benzin >Dammen is the town were the Copy was made. >I found a Da(h)mmmen that is around Pachmin. >I will appreciate any help I can get with the location of the Church. >Thank you >Katharina >

Hi all - > Last year we spent two weeks in Europe and only had a reservation for > one night. We got in the habit of starting to look for a place to > stay around 4 or 5 in the afternoon. I am wondering what time of year John was traveling. It is much easier to find places in months that are not as popular with tourists. I think July and August are considered high season in Germany. Also, this year it will depend on where you go. There will be lots more visitors to southern Germany because of the 10-yr. cycle of the Passion Play at Oberammagau. I have been warned not to go there unless I really need to. Another thought is that it depends on one's requirements--whether you are willing and able to take pot luck, so to speak or whether you need handicapped accessibility, etc. Nancy

I have a question about public education in Heligenstadt (now Thuringen) during the 1830 to 1846 period. My great grandfather and his brothers and sisters had all of their public school education in Heiligenstadt between 1830 and 1846. What type of education did they receive? Last year someone on the Hessen list provided an actual curriculum that was required in a Duchy in that area for about that time. I believe he also indicated that educational curriculum for most of Germany had been published and was available in some reference books. Can any kind soul help me on this? Many thanks, Pryse

I have a Gotha (now in Thuringen) history question. Several of my ancestors worked in one capacity or another for the Court that was in place at the Schloss Friedenstein in Gotha form the years 1680 to 1760. Which Duchy(s) were the in place there and then? Which Dukes were the rulers of the (those) Duchy(s) during those times? Many thanks, Pryse

At 1:10 AM -0500 6/17/00, Janice Danielson wrote: > I think we have all of our major city hotels, trains, and >car rentals taken care of. But we still do not have any hotels or >bed and breakfasts booked in between the major cities. Are we >totally stupid to just start driving and hope to find somewhere to >stay? I'd say you are probably over-planned. If you travel the main auto-bahns you should have no trouble finding something. They don't have motels at every intersection like we do, but you will find them. Just give yourself plenty of time. In the US we start looking for a motel around 9 or 10 in the evening, over there you would be smarter to start looking much earlier. Last year we spent two weeks in Europe and only had a reservation for one night. We got in the habit of starting to look for a place to stay around 4 or 5 in the afternoon. If we found something right away, it gave us plenty of time to enjoy a leisurely meal and an evening exploring the local countryside. If we didn't find something, we had enough time to keep looking. - John

Just wanted to let all of you know that we are closing in on our trip to Sweden and Germany! We will be leaving on Monday, June 19th. I think we have all of our major city hotels, trains, and car rentals taken care of. But we still do not have any hotels or bed and breakfasts booked in between the major cities. Are we totally stupid to just start driving and hope to find somewhere to stay? I hope we aren't. Just wondered if anyone can tell me if I am being too optimistic here. We are truly excited about getting to come to Sweden and Germany. We are hoping to find some records for my husbands family in Ljungsbro, Sweden, and one of my families in Schwalenberg, Germany. We would even be thrilled to find someone still in Sweden and Germany that is related to us! Wouldn't that be terrific? Anyway, I am sitting here not knowing for sure if what we are planning is the right thing! Help! We are just hoping things come out right. Janice Danielson

Hi, Is there anyone on the list researching the names BOLDUAN, BOEHLKE or LOLL/LULL? the ones I am looking for are from Stukershagen, Versin for Bolduan or Weitenhagen/Versin. Henriette BOLDUAN born 1817 Stuckenhagen died 1878 Versin married August Boehlke born 1812 Weitenhagen and died 10 Novemvber 1891 Versin. Any information would be appreciated. Kay Gassan Queensland Australia

Someone in the past was looking for ships lists with only one German person among those of other nationalities, but I don't remember who was looking. I just found, Augustus Goettell, 19, Male, Laborer, Germany, on the ship Macedonia from Liverpool, Eng. to Boston, MA, on 21 Aug 1847. I found it in Vol. 3 of ISTG. It is on NARA M277, Reel 23, List 321. If the person looking sees this note and is still interested let me know as I check the ISTG about once a week. LaVerne ltboehmke@aol.com

If you have relatives who are among the American or Canadian military personnel serving in Germany, or if you are yourself in that category, you may want to visit the website at http://www.family.rootsweb.com/~military-families/index.html ;~) Don Watson http://go.to/Hessen

Hi, Iam looking for information on the Selmer Family. I found out the Selmer family goes back to the Middle German Family History. to a Johann Selmer.1700 Maybe some one can give me some help I found a Johann Selmerin the 1700's I think from Riestadt Sachsen/ Thüringen? I found a Riestedt. Maybe that is the same town. I like to get a hold of the birth certificiate from Johann Selmer can any one tell me if there is a 'Kartei' registration from that time. Any help will be appriciated Thank you Katharina hines60@hotmail.com German below Vielleicht kann mir jemand weiter helfen. Ich habe einen Johann SELMER in Riestadt Sachsen/ Thüringen? Die Familie geht zurück zur Mitteldeutschen Familienkunde. Könnte es villeicht ein Screibfehler sein. Ich habe Riestedt gefunden. Wo würde ich die Geburtsurkunde finden? Es ist aus dem 17. Jahrhundert. Kennt jemand, wo ich von der Zeit eine Katei finde. Ich bedanke mich für jede Hilfe. Katharina hines60@hotmail.com

Bitte, what is the latitude and longitude of Biethoff?

I have Karl Ferdinand Berendorf who was a master Shoemaker in Pasewalk Pommerania and I cannot locate the Guild records for him at Griefswald or Pasewalk. I think it is the only way I will be able to ever find out where he came from originally. Kay Gassan -----

Patsy, I believe generally that the Guild records are kept in the local town archives. In the stockingmaker guild, the letters written by the Guild are in the Zeulenroda town archive. The Staatsarchiv in Greiz had copies of letters received by the Reuss Alte Linie government from the Guild together with the Governments answer. For your ancestors, you should first write to Weimar town archive, also asking, that if they don't have the records, who has. The biggest problem in Germany is finding the right archive, but the people most likely to know are the archivists. They are generally very helpful. Jon

Recently on the Baden - Wurttemberg list they have talked about guild records. Eventually I sent an article that I wrote about Guild records in Thüringen and which was published by the Anglo-German Family History Society in England in issue 51 of their magazine "Mitteilungsblatt" (I have the still the copyright to this article) It seems appropiate that send this article here too. The records I found were in Zeulenroda town archive and Greiz Staatsarchiv. I would be interested to know if anyone else is researching in Zeulenroda. Franz Ferdinand Jähnert - Stockingmaker Recently I did some research into the Jähnert family in Zeulenroda, which is now in Thüringen. Peter Towey gave me the address of the Staatsarchiv Greiz, and I wrote to them, explaining all I knew about the Jähnerts, which under other things was that they were stockingmakers (Strumpfwirker). These were craft workers who produced about 12 pairs of socks a week using a machine invented in 1589 in Cambridge, by a possible ancestor of mine, William Lee. Eventually I received about 20 pages of copies of letters written by the stockingmakers and the Stockinmakers Guild in Zeulenroda to the Government of the time, and the Governments replies. Most of these were from the 1860's, period when sockmaking was a dying trade, unable to compete with the new factories. The sockmakers were dependant on orders from the merchants, but the merchants were building the new factories. The sockmakers were getting fewer contracts and becoming rapidly poorer. Zeulenroda was at this time part of a small principality, Reuss Alte Linie, which consisted of three or four towns and several villages.The government, despite promises made during the 1848 uprisings, was still very feudal. In 1866 the Austrian - Prussian war broke out and Reuss Alte Linie sided with the Austrians. For strategic reasons, their small army of mostly Jäger (Riflemen),was sent to Rastatt in Baden, with exception of about twenty men.In the meantime the Austrians lost the battle of Königgrätz, and with it the war. The last-twenty Reuss Alte Linie soldiers were released from duty, just before the Prussian army arrived in Greiz by train. One of the released soldiers tore off his uniform and ran for three hours to his home village in his underclothes. Another went to the railway station and spent two hours chatting with the Prussian soldiers, before they realised that he was the enemy. He was made a prisoner of war and taken to Hof in Bavaria, but was released after a few days. Such are the local legends of this day. In October 1866 the army was recalled from Rastatt and released from duty, so that it could be reorganised under Prussian lines. Reuss Alte Linie was forced to join the Norddeutsche Bund, a coalition of northern German states led by Prussia. Shortly after this Franz Ferdinand Jähnert, who had finished of his apprenticeship wrote the following letter to the ruling Duke Heinrich XXII. (The hard-to-read parts are represented by question marks.) Most serene Duke Most Merciful and serene Duke and Lord Before the steps of the radiant favour and lenience and justice dares the subservient reserve rifleman and sockmaking apprentice* Franz Ferdinand Jähnert from Zeulenroda, to submit this request, with regards his intention to become a master (sockmaker) After my release from school, I learnt the sockmaking profession, but after the apprenticeship, I couldn't journey**, because I wanted to earn decent? clothes first, because when one just goes with nothing into the world, one gets no respect (or attention.) As I came finally to decent apparel?, I had the honour in the year 1863 to exchange my simple civil rank with the call of my warlords. I stood 2 ½ years by the flag, and took part in the campaign to Rastatt, after which I went in the reserve and continued my profession. I the subservient requestor, am in my 26th year and want to gain citizenship and Master rights in Zeulenroda, but for the earlier mentioned reasons, couldn't journey, and after my return from Rastatt, I was too old for that. I do therefore in this affair dare request the well known grace and mercy of my country and war ruler to consider this most submissive request: That you yourself, full of mercy and full power, if it pleases, to release me from journeying and from completing a masterpiece, then I am a poor fellow and cannot get anything from my parents for my intention, and also to allow the governmental master fee to fall. With honour and submissiveness Your serene Duke Zeulenroda, 21st June 1867 most servile, true? obedient Franz Ferdinand Jähnert After the letter the following was noted Resol Sereniss ad. No. 404 29/VI. 67. Dispensed and released one half of of the Fees He didn't have to become a journeyman or complete a masterpiece, but he still had to pay three Thaler, six Groschen and six Pfennig, which at this time was about one weeks wages. The following year the sockmakers Guild was dissolved. Without contracts and work, the sockmakers earned nothing, and were forced to leave the Guild so that they could earn a living by other means. I hope that Franz Ferdinand didn't pay these fees; the master title would most likely have been of little use to him. I am still trying to find this out. I wrote this article to show how much can be found in German Guild records and that with luck it is possible to get from them, the genealogists' dream, a short life history written by the ancestor, his or herself. * The proper translation is journeyman, but considering the content of the letter, this is confusing.. ** Journey as in the sense of a journeyman. Jon Scott

My Great-great-grandfather Hermann KNOCH was listed in 1860 census of Ross county, Ohio, USA. He stated his place of birth as "Saxe Weimar." Is it possible for me to request his birth record based on this information or do I need a more specific locality? Any advice regarding this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks you! Lorena KNOCH ALEGUS, BENTLEY, BROWN, CARPENTER, CHAFFEE, COREY, COX, COYKENDALL, CRANSTON, DAVENPORT, GOLTOIA / GOLTATNE, HANLON, JOHNSON, JONES, KNOCH, LARSON, MARSH, MASSEY, MASTEN, McARTHUR, McNAIR, MOORE, PETERSON, PITTON, SOPER, WHREISTER / REISTER

I really did enjoy Jon Scott's comments on German Guilds. From German church records I have the following ancestors: Carl Rabenaldt, about 1850 was a shoe maker from Wolferstadt Johann Georg Wilhelm Schmidt, Master Linen weaver d. 1883 Weimar Johann Theodor Wilhelm Bauer, stocking weaver d. 1838 Weimar Johannes Goldmann, Tailormaster d. 1871 Kullstedt I have always wondered how I might locate Guild records and if it would be worth the trouble. Patsy Hand