We are trying to find out what area Voigtland covered. The only map we were able to find was about a quarter of an inch high. If someone knows of a place on the Internet or someplace else where we could find a map that would show the boundaries and the cities that were within those boundries we would appreciate it. Thank you for your help. Also, if the name was spelled differently please let us know.

Johann Alban DIETZE born 13 Apr 1832, died 31 May 1898 Penig, Leipzig, Saxony Married Auguste Wilhelmine FRIEDRICH on 25 July 1853 Penig, she born 03 Feb 1831 Penig, died 28 Dec 1907 Neider-Planitz, Zwickau. Family History Center lists only this child, Johann Alban DIETZE for family of Johann Gottfried DIETZE and Johanne Sophie KRENKEL.. I am searching for additional children of this family. In particular August DIETZE, my Great Grandfather born about 1830.and his son Robert August DIETZ > 1882 USA. Most all family names of this family have filtered down in my line to include my Father, Johann Alban DIETZ. Any leads greatly appreciated. Anne

Hello George(e?) -- You may be interested to know about a Leipzig genealogist that has helped me immensely. He is a young graduate ( about 32 years old), who has extensive experience and fabulous connections in both research and webpage construction. There is a financial blessing too; he doesn't charge as much like some do. Try the URL below -- to give you an idea of his capabilities. I'm very happy with the results I received. http://ilabws.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~andre/roots/query.html >, and ... for his e-mail: Andre & Jana - SCHMIDT- <andre@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> Another help for researching immigration is the URL below. ----------------- For Immgration Ships Transciber's Guild and many ways to search ships lists using indexes, see: http://istg.rootsweb.com/ ----------------- Personally, I'm searching for surnames in places as follows: Gross / Limmer / Nitzsche in Werdau / Klingenthal / Neukirchen (bei Crimmitschau) Caroline Louisa Gross, B: 24 Jan 1832 in Werdau. Daughter of Johann Heinrich Gross , B: 25 Dec 1779 in Werdau and Caroline Friederike Limmer, B: Abt 1790, probably Klingenthal. Parents were married on 21 June 1825 in Werdau. Johann Heinrich Gross, B:25 Dec 1779 in Werdau. Son of Johann Hermann Gross, B: Abt 1750 in Neukirchen and Johanna Nitzsche, B: Abt 1752 Place unknown. She died 14 Jun 1819. Parents were married on 10 Jan 1784 in Place unknown. Writer is interested to exchange information with anyone who may be related to the above. Best Wishes in all of your research. Also, any help would be appreciated / Ich wuerde mich ueber jede Hilfe freuen. Please respond to me privately, Charlie. < cnaundorf@worldnet.att.net > Charles H. & Doris S. NAUNDORF Western New York State, USA ======================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: <Georgeedn@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-KINGDOMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, 24 June, 2000 09:02 Subject: [GERMANKING] ALFRED RICHTER > I am researching Alfred Richter, born in Leipzig around 1906(a passenger list > SNIP

Hello List, I am researching several lines that I believe go back to Germany. A few I have actually found place names for. August ANSCHUTZ, b. 3 Dec 1826 in Allendorf, Rudolstadt, Germany. Johanna Christiane Caroline WOHLFARTH, b. 1824 in Kleingoelitz, Rudolstadt. These two were married 10 Apr 1854 in the East Side Moravian Church, Green Bay, Brown County, Wisconsin, USA. John BLEY, b. 5 Sep 1834 in Grand Duchy of Sachsen-Weimar, Germany. He was the youngest son of George BLEY. Other surnames I am researching include ATKINSON, HAMMOND, HASELHUHN, HILLA, JUNG, KIELKOPF, KOWALSKI, LEASUM, LEDUC, LESAGE, MARTIN, NORTHRUP, PETERS, REICHRAD, RITTENBERG, STEINKE, STROBL, TOBIAS, URBAN, WARREN, and WATT. Tracy LeSage Kernersville, NC Teu666@aol.com

Hello Listers: I am trying to locate the place of birth of Luise Johanne Friederike BLEY, who married my grandfather, Louis Wilhelm Richard MEYER (from Berlin) sometime prior to 1884. They lived in Berlin. All I know about Luise Johanne Friederike BLEY is that she was from somewhere in the HARZ MOUNTAINS in central Germany (I actually grew up only 30 miles from Bad Harzburg, so I know the Harz well). Anyone with any clues will earn my undying gratitude. If you have any Bleys from the Harz in your tree, I would love to hear from you. Best regards to all, Thilo C. Agthe Brooklyn, NY tagthe@earthlink.net

I am researching Alfred Richter, born in Leipzig around 1906(a passenger list also lists birth at Sajonia). He immigrated to the US from Madrid Spain in 1928 and went from NY to Puerto Rico, where he stayed one month and returned to the US. On his return he was to stay with a cousin, Mrs. Emile Stern in Irvington NJ. His father was Karl Wilhelm Emil Richter and his mother Anna Bertha Hartung, and he had at least one sibling, Arno Henry born in 1901. I have not been able to find anything further on his to this date.

Looking for anywhere to start with this name. Does this look familiar to any particular region of Germany? Thanks, Rick

This MIELCAREK branch has a Polish lineage, but was probably Prussian. Does this name sound familiar to anyone?. I have very little to go by. My MIELCAREK relatives all lived in the Tonawanda (Buffalo) NY area. The earliest name I have is Stanislaus Mielcarek (187?) who married Victoria Potocki (sp).(1877). Thanks for any pointers Rick

The Mielcarek surname is found 203 times in today's online German telephone directory. Go to the website below, click on the telephone symbol in the Table of Links. Choose Teleauskunft, then the English language version (unless you speak German). Type in the surname Mielcarek. Leave every- thing else blank. Plot the locations where the name is found. Watch for clusters of the name in certain locations. You can do this with any surname in Germany. ;~) Don http://go.to/Hessen ----- Original Message ----- From: <RWhite4277@aol.com> To: <GERMAN-KINGDOMS-L@rootsweb.com> This MIELCAREK branch has a Polish lineage, but was probably Prussian. Does this name sound familiar to anyone?

I am looking for Johann and Anna Buchler. They came to America from Schwarzburg. That is the only place that is listed on the census or the naturalization records. They came to America between 1845 and 1848. Johann Born @1807 Anna 1808 CHILDREN of Johann and Anna all years are approximate. Birth places are accurate Charles 1839 Schwarzburg Christopher 1842 " Wilhelmina 1845 " Dorothy 1847 Michigan USA Henry 1849 " If you know anything about this family please get back in touch Anna

If this turns out to be a duplicate message, my apologies, but I think the first one bounced..anyway..death certificate for Otto Emil Rudloff states that he was b. 1857 in Schaunechau, Germany (per his widow)...I have searched some 19th century maps to no avail..if anyone has heard of this place, or can give me additional places to look for it, would be grateful...jerri in cal..

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Is anyone out there familiar with the above? It now houses the Goethe Museum in Dusseldorf. The Michelin Tourist Guide says it was the one-time home of the Electors Master of the Hunt, dates from the 18thC. I am interested in knowing if this could have been the home of JOBST HEINRICH JäGER, Royal Saxon Game Warden. He was married to Magdalene nee Seneff born 15 Dec 1753 in Muesebach. Will appreciate any info you might have. Thanks. Edythe

Your messages on your digest are not clear to me. I am looking for the KOEPPE Surname...............is anyone out there in cyberspace have the same name? Thank you. June D. Koeppe

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Some very handy pages to search with additional links. http://home.foni.net/~adelsforschung/ http://worldroots.clicktron.com/brigitte/royal/royalb.htm http://worldroots.clicktron.com/brigitte/royal/royal.htm http://home.foni.net/~adelsforschung/index1.htm#77 Go to link - Gotha. http://www.vd17.de/ - Some surprises here. Noel Iszlaub Australia Researching EISLEB - ISLEIB - ISLAUB - ISLEB - ISLEUB (with 'ss' - 's' - 'ß') (ending with '-er' or '-en') All Germany ----- Original Message ----- From: Herbert Mahler Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 12:38 PM Subject: [GERMANKING] History of Sachsen=Gotha > In response to P. Duerfel's question, Herzog Ernst I > of Sachsen=Gotha ruled in Gotha from 1641 to 1675 and > his son Herzog Friedrich I followed from 1675 to 1691, > then this Duke's son, Friedrich II, followed from 1693 > to 1732 and then he in turn was followed by his son, > Friedrich III from 1732 to 1772 etc. I hope you find > this helpful. > > Regards, > H.W. Mahler

Further to the history of this, they also had a very close connection to the Portuguese Royalty. One of the sons married a Portuguese princess. Ines ----- Original Message ----- From: Herbert Mahler <hwmahler@yahoo.com> To: <GERMAN-KINGDOMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 8:38 PM Subject: [GERMANKING] History of Sachsen=Gotha > In response to P. Duerfel's question, Herzog Ernst I > of Sachsen=Gotha ruled in Gotha from 1641 to 1675 and > his son Herzog Friedrich I followed from 1675 to 1691, > then this Duke's son, Friedrich II, followed from 1693 > to 1732 and then he in turn was followed by his son, > Friedrich III from 1732 to 1772 etc. I hope you find > this helpful. > > Regards, > H.W. Mahler > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Subscribers: > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >