Hi Carrie -- I had to rush out to the dentist and I didn't have time to include persons from my pedigree. Sorry. Searching for surnames in places as follows: Gross / Limmer / Nitzsche in Werdau / Klingenthal / Neukirchen (bei Crimmitschau) Caroline Louisa Gross, B: 24 Jan 1832 in Werdau. Daughter of Johann Heinrich Gross , B: 25 Dec 1779 in Werdau and Caroline Friederike Limmer, B: Abt 1790, probably Klingenthal. Parents were married on 21 June 1825 in Werdau. Johann Heinrich Gross, B:25 Dec 1779 in Werdau. Son of Johann Hermann Gross, B: Abt 1750 in Neukirchen and Johanna Nitzsche, B: Abt 1752 Place unknown. She died 14 Jun 1819. Parents were married on 10 Jan 1784 in Place unknown. Writer is interested to exchange information with anyone who may be related to the above. Any help would be appreciated / Ich wuerde mich ueber jede Hilfe freuen. Please respond to me privately, Charlie. < cnaundorf@worldnet.att.net > Charles H. & Doris S. NAUNDORF 35 picture Book Park West Bloomfield, NY 14585 - 9102 USA Tel.: 716-624-1406

Searching for information on ggrandfather WEILACHER, Ludvig (Ludwig), b. 24 Oct 1844 and ggrandmother FLOCKERZI, Katherine, b. Alsace-Lorraine, unknown date. They reportedly arrived in Pittsburgh, PA USA FROM Port of Bremen, Germany in 1872. They were not married until arrival in USA. Ludvig's brother Peter reportedly accompanied them to USA. Any information on these individuals and their ancestors would be greatly appreciated. I know there are several WEILACHER's still living in this area of Germany. I would love to establish contact with any and all of them if possible. Les Weilacher 607 Zia Avenue Alamogordo, NM USA

Wer kennt einen zuverlässigen Genealogen in der Sondershausener Gegend oder kann selbst für meinen amerikanischen Bekannten einen kleinen Auftrag im Pfarramt Hohenebra erledigen? Danke für Eure Hilfe im voraus! Who knows a reliable genealogist in the Sondershausen area? Thanks in advance for your help! Juergen ***************************** Jürgen Fritsche (Germany) ----------------------------- genealogy@ib-fritsche.de *****************************

To: NAUNDORFs -- who live in Germany -- with ancestors from the SACHSEN area... such as Werdau / Crimmitschau / Ronneburg / Leipzig / Dresden / Would you like to exchange e-mail occasionally & learn from each other about culture and history? Brush up on your English? Learn about life in the USA? You might be a student, a person from the SACHSEN area, or one who has some interest in the SACHSEN area. This is a PRIVATE inquiry, having no connection with any government. My references in Germany are available for you upon request. Any help would be appreciated / Ich wuerde mich ueber jede Hilfe freuen. Please respond to me privately, Charlie.< cnaundorf@worldnet.att.net > Charles H. & Doris S. NAUNDORF from western New York state, USA. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Liebe Naundorfs in Deutschland, falls Ihre Familie aus dem Raume Sachsen stammt - insbesondere aus Werdau, Crimmitschau, Ronneburg, Leipzig oder Dresden -, würde ich gerne mit Ihnen E-mails austauschen. Meine Anfrage ist rein privat und nicht kommerziell oder behördlich. Auf Wunsch kann ich Ihnen Briefreunde in Deutschland nennen, die dies gern bestätigen. Wir könnten voneinander mehr erfahren: kulturell, geschichtlich. Vielleicht interessiert Sie, wie man in den USA lebt? Oder Sie möchten Ihr Englisch trainieren? (Diesen Brief hat ein deutscher Freund übersetzt.) Gleich, ob Sie In Sachsen leben oder nur am Raum Sachsen interessiert sind: Ich würde mich über jede Hilfe freuen. Meine E-mail-Adresse ist: cnaundorf@worldnet.att.net Bis bald, freundlich grüßen: Charles H. & Doris S. Naundorf, im Staate New York, USA ------------------------------------------------------------------- P.S. I cannot speak or read the German language. A friend of mine made the translation, so please write in English.

For those of you who missed it: Het Verleden In Beeld - Picturing The Past Address: http://geneaknowhow.net/in/beeld.htm Click on the english flag for english presentation. When you get to the list of occupations and click on one, you will see a very nice illustration plus the occupation in several languages. Can anyone provide a translation of the ?poem? in ?dutch? that is also on the page? I have german ancestor from Westpreussen (now Poland) who was trained as tailor-name of Kley...illustration says de Kleermaaker...and I never find Kley but I see ten Kley frequently. interesting... It took me a few tries to decide whether my wagonwheel maker from Hessen-Kassel was a cooper or carpenter or "coachbuilder"--picture of coachbuilder was building a wheel :-) These will make a nice addition to my website. Thanks! visit:http://community.webtv.net/web-angie/Webspinsters (always evolving)

I am looking for information on the ship SS Apolda which visited Freemanlte, Australia in 1907 and Brisbane, Queensland,Australia in January 1908 .According to the shipping list the crew had all German names, No passengers disembarked when it arrived in Brisbane. I have made a few enquiries on other mailing lists but have had no replies. is there anyone out there who could tell me what kind of a ship it was.or any other information on the "Apolda" if not then where could I look next for more information It seems my grandfather was a stoker on this ship many thanks Fay

rhea257 schrieb: > > Could someone tell me where I could find a map showing me what area was > included in Saxe-Coburg in 1840? I have 3 generations of Paschold ancestors > coming from Saxe-Coburg in 1840, but so far have not found out where. http://home.t-online.de/home/Dieter.Taube/ahnen.htm * Dieter

JBroads122@aol.com schrieb: > > I have three brothers, Lebrecht (b. 20 Apr. 1820), Ernst (b. 28 Oct. 1828), > and Gottlieb (b. 3 July 1837) SCHLECHT. They stated they were from Hulstein > in Sachsen or Thuringia. I can not find any Hulstein and do not know if this > is accurate or not. I tried to find it, with no success. Perhaps it is not spelled correctly. 'Hulstein' sounds a little strange for a location in middle Germany. > I have traced all the information (church, obituary, > etc) I can about their lives here. I have found naturalization and > immigration records, but they don't help. Does anyone know of a Hulstein in > Sachsen/Thuringia? Does anyone have any other suggestions? The only idea I have is to search in German telephone registers for the name SCHLECHT. Surely you will see hundreds of them, but perhaps you can detect any concentrations in Saxony or Thuringia. And maybe one of them lives in a village named Hu*%st$e)n ? * Dieter

Hülsten is just north of the megopolis of Duisberg-Dortmund-Gelsenkirchen-Bochum. ?? ;~) Don http://go.to/Hessen ----- Original Message ----- From: Calvin Zippin <czippin@itsa.ucsf.edu> To: <GERMAN-KINGDOMS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANKING] SCHLECHT/Hulstein(?) Germany J Broads I did a quick search of Ravenstein's 1883 atlas and the closest I could come to it was Hultschin in Schlesien.

Could someone tell me where I could find a map showing me what area was included in Saxe-Coburg in 1840? I have 3 generations of Paschold ancestors coming from Saxe-Coburg in 1840, but so far have not found out where. Thanks, Rhea in Arizona

J Broads I did a quick search of Ravenstein's 1883 atlas and the closest I could come to it was Hultschin in Schlesien. map 6 SW (FG9) approx. 50ºN 36ºE The Calle maps had nothing, so I went to the JewishGen shtetl seeker. I gather it's now in Poland - probably SE of Breslau (Wroclaw). Way down by the border there are a couple of Hulskie, Hulcze 50N24E, At this point I gave up since I don't know where to find a map with both German/Polish names. If your town of Hulstein still exists, perhaps someone else on this list will know exactly. Sorry, Patricia SCHUBERT Zippin >I have three brothers, Lebrecht (b. 20 Apr. 1820), Ernst (b. 28 Oct. 1828), >and Gottlieb (b. 3 July 1837) SCHLECHT. They stated they were from Hulstein >in Sachsen or Thuringia. I can not find any Hulstein and do not know if this >is accurate or not. I have traced all the information (church, obituary, >etc) I can about their lives here. I have found naturalization and >immigration records, but they don't help. Does anyone know of a Hulstein in >Sachsen/Thuringia? Does anyone have any other suggestions? Thanks.

I have three brothers, Lebrecht (b. 20 Apr. 1820), Ernst (b. 28 Oct. 1828), and Gottlieb (b. 3 July 1837) SCHLECHT. They stated they were from Hulstein in Sachsen or Thuringia. I can not find any Hulstein and do not know if this is accurate or not. I have traced all the information (church, obituary, etc) I can about their lives here. I have found naturalization and immigration records, but they don't help. Does anyone know of a Hulstein in Sachsen/Thuringia? Does anyone have any other suggestions? Thanks.

A major vacation weekend is fast approaching for those in USA (it's Fourth of July long weekend). The unsubscribe messages are in taglines (in individual messages) or just under the subject listing for those who get digests. W. David Samuelsen, LO

http://www.vitalrec.com/oh.html - this is the Ohio address. For any other State change the two letter abbreviation after .com/ This will take you to the State site with downloadable forms for State, County, etc. vital records, and where each can be found, and how to do it, and the cost. It will also give the address of State and local Genealogy Societies and archives. Saves lots of time and energy. Patricia SCHUBERT Zippin >www.pueblo.gsa.gov > >Birth, death, marriage and divorce certificates are important documents. >Publication has a listing of state and local vital statistic offices and what >facts to include when requesting copies. >Booklet costs $2.25 > Call 1-888- 878-3256 credit card. ITEM # 135F > >Or write and send check for $2.25 to: > Consumer Information Center > Dept. 135 F > Pueblo CO 81009 > >______________________________

hello I am Kirsten Hawkes from Australia researching the surname DE SAXE and I am hoping this mailing list may have some answers? Any De SAXE names from any places and dates interest me at thsi stage thank you Kirsten Friis Holm Hawkes Kariong NSW Australia researching SMEE - London 1800's and Sydney after 1836 CHRISTEY - as above DE SAXE - Australia & Gibraltar ( Spain? Holland? Germany? France?) GREEN - Sydney from 1859 RUFF- Beds/Bucks 1835

Hello: After searching for two years plus, have recently heard 'snippets' of information as to origin of JOHANNES [John] HARNICK, born June 20, 1823---[died Ont. Canada-1882] Emigrated c1850-? Settled Tavistock, ON. One source said "Straza [??], Mecklenburg"; another said northern Holland. Where would one go now with that little information ? or is there any hope ? Sorry for the vagueness. J B Harnick

Just wanted to let you know, I just called the toll free number (888-878-3256) to order the Item #135F for Vital Statistics from Consumer Information Center . Due to a price adjustment in the new catalog the cost is now $2.50.

www.pueblo.gsa.gov Birth, death, marriage and divorce certificates are important documents. Publication has a listing of state and local vital statistic offices and what facts to include when requesting copies. Booklet costs $2.25 Call 1-888- 878-3256 credit card. ITEM # 135F Or write and send check for $2.25 to: Consumer Information Center Dept. 135 F Pueblo CO 81009

As a new member of the list I would like to introduce myself. I am Jerry Dittman of Boonsboro, Maryland; born in Duquesne, Pennsylvania. I am researching my grandmothers ancestors in the Wipperfuerth area. My grandmother was Mary RAAB daughter of Kilian RAAB and Emilie ZELZ. Emilie married Kilian 30 Jan 1860 in Allegheny City, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. Emilie ZELZ was born in Wippperfuerth, Koeln, Germany 08 Dec 1840 a daughter of Henry ZELZ and Cath. HUCKENSTEIN. I believe that they emigrated to the US about 1858 when Emilie was about 18 years old. I have a photograph of a gentleman taken in Pittsburgh in the late 1800s. This photo is identified as a 3 great grandfather ALPERT, no first name given, of Mary RAAB. I also have a reference to a Feargott ALPERT in Kilian's Civl War Pension application. As far as I can determine this Alpert would be the father of the mother of either Henry ZELZ or Cath. HUCKENSTEIN. Looking for anyone researching these families or who may have some information on them. Also would appreciate any assistance on researching these names in Wipperfuerth or Koeln, Germany. Jerry Dittman Boonsboro, MD

I am searching for information about the two subject surnames and about their life and times in or near Hannover. Frederick WICKMAN, his wife (Mary GREINER), their children, and Mary's parents (maybe some of her siblings, too) came to Jackson County, Michigan where a son, Henry WICKMAN, founded the town of Hanover in 1835. I have quite a bit of the lineage to date from then. I need info about their German home and life before then. Stan Wickman