Can anyone tell me how to do research of finding my great grandfather and his parents that supposedly were from Sonderhausen? I have found other family members from the 1800's on the Internet and they are in the area's of Gotha, Sonderhausen and Menteroda. It was only ever said that our family was from Sonderhausen. I am told his name was August Karl Rauch and that his parents names were Louise Kleemann and a Fredrick Rauch. Karl was said to have deserted the German Army at age 21, he was maybe born in 1864. I was also told he did receive a pardon from Kaiser Wilhelm. I just don't know where to go, I thought I was on a roll finding my Rauch's and Fritsch's, but it just stops with him. He married in the United States, but her parents were found in Germany with their first two children. Karl's wife's name was Martha Mathilda Fritsch. I am enjoying learning about Germany, can anyone make my enjoyment any greater?

Hello....I found my GGGrandfather and family on the 1860 Wayne County, Indiana, USA Census with the following information..... WAGGONER, Frederick...39...M...Laborer..........Wertembergh " , Hennietta...42...F................................Meiningen " , Perlina........9...F.................................Saxony " , Caroline......6...F................................Saxony We believe his wife's maiden name was DILKA (or other like spellings)....the child "Perlina" was actually Paulina, according to all other sources I have found. Would greatly appreciate any information on these names or sources that I could check. Thanks.....Judy Hart

Hi Mary Lou, you're right, there are two places Starkow in Mecklenburg; one is part of 18469 Altenhagen and the other one is part of 18195 Thelkow (numbers are German zip codes). In search for your ancestors, you'd better ask the church parishes for records. Try to write a basic English, it surely would be understood. The next churches and parishes are Velgast and Tessin: Evangelisches Pfarramt Velgast Ernst-Thälmann-Strasse D-18469 Velgast Tel +49 38324-358 Evangelisch-Lutherische Kirchgemeinden Tessin, Vilz, Thelkow Pfarramt Rostocker Strasse 5 D-18195 Tessin Tel +49 38205-13243 Did you already try the Mecklenburg-L? If you want to subscribe to the list, send a message containing the following text: subscribe mecklenburg-l to: majordomo@genealogy.net Do not include anything else in the text portion of the message, as this may confuse majordomo (ie no signatures). Please be aware that the listowner must approve all subscriptions, so there may be a slight delay in getting subscribed. Take care, Juergen ***************************** Jürgen Fritsche (Germany) ----------------------------- genealogy@ib-fritsche.de ***************************** > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Jerry G. Bartee [mailto:t-bar@worldnet.att.net] > Gesendet am: Samstag, 29. Juli 2000 23:11 > An: GERMAN-KINGDOMS-L@rootsweb.com > Betreff: [GERMANKING] two choices, Starkow, Mecklenburg, Germany > > How does a person decide where they are from especially when there are two > places in Mecklenburg Vorpommera, by the name of Starkow. This > is according > to MapQuest. > > Mary Lou > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Going on Vacation? Longer than 5 days? Please unsubscribe > It is click and send ready > mailto:German-Kingdoms-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >

> >HALL - BERG - MAUEL - SCHMELZER > >A translation of the notes, in the prayer book, of Mathias Wilhelm Hall. >Excerpt of the original...translated into English. > >"This book I received from my daughter-in-law, Rosa Hall for a Christmas >and New Years present in the year 1888 to 1889. Best thanks for it from >her loyal Father-in-Law, Mathias Wilhelm Hall. Praise be to Jesus Christ >for all eternity, Amen. > >I Mathias Wilhelm Hall, was born March 19, 1819 in Sinzenich, Euskirchen, >Colonge Germany. I married Anna Maria Mauel on October 18, 1846. She was >born on Feb., 2, 1819, in the same place as I was. > >On the 22nd of May 1847 I left my wife with her parents in Germany and came >to North America with my brother-in-law, John Mauel on a sailing ship that >took 42 days to reach Quebec. From there we journeyed to Milwaukee, >Wisconsin and each of us took up a claim for 160 acres for our families in >town 13, about 60 miles north from Milwaukee, or 16 miles from Fond du Lac, >in Ashford. > >One year later my wife came with our first son and her brothers and sister >and her parents, and my own brothers and sisters to Ashford. Two years >after I came, I was followed by my Father Wilhelm Hall, born in 1784, who >died in Ashford, Wisconsin, on May 27, 1865, 81 years old. My mother, Anna >Catherine Hall nee Schmelzer was born March 10, 1787 and died in Ashford >June 10, 1858, 71 years old. My wife Anna Maria, died November 10, 1881, >in LaBette City, Kansas and is buried in Lador, Kansas beside our eldest >daughter, Anna and her two children by her husband Michael Berg." > >Signed: Mathias Wilhelm Hall > >A small note is made by John W. Hall, son of M.W. Hall, he has written next >tot he information about Anna M. (Mauel) Hall, died at the age of 49 years >of Typhoid. > >

Hi! I am new to this list. How do I find members researching these names for an info exchange? BRENNECKE Sebexen, Hannover Kingdom > Missouri in 1844 MUELLER Nuertingen am Neckar, Wuerttemberg > St. Louis, MO in 1866 Norm B.

Helen, yes, you are still on the list to us, but did you receive your note on list? Welcome back, Patricia Schubert Zippin At 5:28 PM -0600 7/29/00, Helene Pockrus wrote: >My ISP crashed for 36 hours and I have received no further messages >since. >Helene Pockrus >txphlp44@enol.com

My ISP crashed for 36 hours and I have received no further messages since. Helene Pockrus txphlp44@enol.com

How does a person decide where they are from especially when there are two places in Mecklenburg Vorpommera, by the name of Starkow. This is according to MapQuest. Mary Lou

Hi all I'm trying to find any descendants or even relatives in Germany of Harold Flentjar and Olga Namanu..They were my g/g/g grandparents,their son,my g/g/grandfather John Harms Flentjar was born in Hannover Germany in 1840..He arrived in Australia about 1861 and the story is that he jumped ship in Melbourne,nothing is known of his family back in Germany and it is not known how he spent his first 10 years in Australia.. Regards Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <GERMAN-KINGDOMS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <GERMAN-KINGDOMS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 11:00 AM Subject: GERMAN-KINGDOMS-D Digest V00 #335

Hello List, I am doing research for a friend, she does not have Internet access. She is looking for the following family members: John Wilhelm Lange Born: July 30, 1864 Griefswald, Germany Adolph Lange Born: July 1866 Griefswald, Germany Came To America About 1889 August Lange Born: Unknown Griefswald, Germany These family members also may be related to Wilhelm Kaiser II. My friend has a old picture of Wilhelm Kaiser II with other military members. If anyone has any family history on Wilhelm Kaiser II please e-mail me. If I am on the wrong list please let me know....Thank you!! Happy Hunting!!! ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Dear Helpers: I am looking for Info on and would like to know more about the Kussmaul (Kushmaul_ family and names and if there are many left in Germany. My Dad's family came from Baden, Wurttemburg, Moetzing, and other towns. Do you know where I could find some History on these areas as I like to learn what it was like, where they lived, along with searching for the families. I would appreciate some news on this. I sure do a lot of searching in many different sites as it is easier than going to the Library. Thank you for the work and encouragement you do give the people as I read all the letters coming in and I think I do learn a lot from this and the various URLs too. Johannes Kussmaul birth/Christening 16 Feb 1621 no other particulars. Johann Martin Kussmaul b abt 1688 unknown town Germany; m Catherine Morlock b 1690, m May 24, 1710. I do not have the list of all the children, just Jacob b 1713 m Ursula ? Sept 1749 (I would like to receive these if they are available and the children of other marriages) Johann Martin Kussmaul b 1779 (Luthern) m Casserina Morlock b 1774 (Catholic) m Oct 22, 1805 in Moetzing, Germany. They had ten children and the 7th one Jonathon Kussmaul b 28 Dec 1814 in Wertumberg m Sarah (Sally) ? , b 1823 Baden, in Maryland after landing (?Boston) Lived there awhile then wagon trained down through Pennsylvania and then to Lima, Ohio USA I truly would like to know more about the families there and the ones that left there... and the history of the towns etc.. Thank you again for taking the time to read and listen and for all of your kind help. Betty Parmer Michigan USA

In a message dated 7/24/2000 20:06:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, GERMAN-KINGDOMS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > "House #38, son of Kolon Schakel" That just means "son of Farmer Schakel" Bob

Hi all> PLEASE SEE IF YOU CAN HELP. Like so many, I need info. as to where to search, people I can contact and so forth. Carl Emil Wilhelm FRITZE, b 2 21 1847 Friesack, Germany. Son of Carl Friedrich and Marie Dorethea VOIGT. Married to Marie Treresia GORSLAR b May 9,1852 in Niederorschel. Daughter of Lorenz Gorslar & Maria WALDHEIM. Marie Voigt was Catholic and of the Parish Orchel. Carl Wilhelm Fritze enlisted in the military 12 16 1867,Rathennow,district of Rathenow. May have been discharged 1871. Need help on Birth, Marriage,Military documents. If you know of any connections to these families or how/ where to write, please contact me at SecurePJ@aol.com. I will gladly pay for records. THANK YOU. PJ MATHON

~=~=~= URL: http://www.auswanderer.lad-bw.de/ TITLE: Auswanderung aus Württemberg DESCRIPTION: Because I don't read German, I can't tell much about this site other than it does list records of German Immigration. I bumped around here and found the record of my fourth great grandfather. There is more to the site but, it will take someone with knowledge of the German language to understand the site fully. =~

I am working on WILHELM FUECHTEMANN b. l832 Cologne? He went to St. Louis MO. and married ELIZABETH ELLERBRACK. He may have fought in the Civil War and died around 1899 in St. Louis. Is anyone working on these surnames? So far I have not found him on a ship's list. Peggy N. VA

--part1_ae.8349fa5.26adb198_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_ae.8349fa5.26adb198_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <PaulandFrieda@aol.com> From: PaulandFrieda@aol.com Full-name: Paul and Frieda Message-ID: <a3.900caa8.26acc770@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 18:10:56 EDT Subject: Grandpa Schakel To: ebbeler@ix.netcom.com, dwat@mmcable.com, pduerfel@nmu.edu CC: mardon@actcom.net, BStegemerten@t-online.de, PaulandFrieda@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 109 Dear Don, I am forever in your debt. Had been working for ten weeks, writing to Trinity Lutheran Church in Indianapolis (where Grandpa and Grandma had been married), a cousin on the Lutheran Cemetery Board in Indianapolis, and many hours on the net to several different genealogy organizations, all trying to accomplish what you did for me in a day. I only got on the net in January and admitedly had much to learn and was very slow. I am 77 years old and practiced my early professional life, as a structural engineer, with a slide rule and hand-cranked adding machine. So computers were a bit scary at first. Thanks for answering all my questions! I was amazed at how many people tried to help me. Some gave useful suggestions but I was still miles from the answers. I only have one area that is not totally clear to me. I think I know the answer but if I'm wrong, please let me know: The emigration index which covers Grandpa says "House #38, son of Kolon Schakel". I interpret that to mean "House #38 in son-of- Kolon Schakel village" because several paragraphs later, it gives Schakel, Carl Friedrich as Grandpa's father living at #38 Kolon. My great grandfather was Carl Friedrich, right? I have extensive information and "Tree" on Dad's side, the Brandts of Cammer - - going all the way back to 1640+/-. Got it from a DISTANT cousin. I was quite surprised to learn that Grandpa Schakel also was from the church in Frille. All my gggg-grandfather Brandts were baptized there. I had the privilege of attending church there in 1994. We stayed in Weitersheim about 2 1/2 miles east of Frille and walked to church on Sunday morning. Weitersheim, Papinghausen, Cammer, and Aminghausen are all villages in a 2 mile radius of Frille and all attended the church in Frille. Frille is roughly northeast of Minden. According to my great uncle Louis C. Brandt (in an interview I had with him in 1957 - - he was born in 1869), Cammer was a 1 1/2 hour walk from Minden and a 2/12 hour walk from Bueckeburg. I'm reasonably certain that Bueckeburg is south of Frille and east of Minden. I'm also sure he was correct on that distance, since he courted and married a young lady from Bueckeburg. He also told me that in the War of 1866, half of the congregation lived in and fought for Prussia and the other half of the congregation lived in and fought for Schaumburg-Lippe. I hope to be able to share what I have about the Cammer-Frille area and my branch of the Brandts with anyone interested. I've made one attempt at doing this with LDS but haven't had the ability to get through their red tape. I plan to share this note with several net-friends who have been helpful in my search, by sending copies to them. Again many, many thanks for your wonderful help. Paul Brandt Professor Emeritus Auburn University Department of Building Science (teaching future building contractors - - not a Phd) --part1_ae.8349fa5.26adb198_boundary--

Hello Helmut I am sorry, I intended to respond to the list instead of you directly, but accidents sometimes happen. So here it is for every one to see. I have ancestors from that town. My name is Kevin Palan My ancestor was Martha Selma Wilhelm born 24Jan 1866. According to her birth record it was Oberweissbach, Schwarzburg, Rudolstatt. (Some of the script is hard to read so don't quote me on the spelling. She was the Daughter of (Amaudus?) Gotthilf Wilhelm b.11Aug 1833, and Emmiline Walther 24Apr 1840. Why do you ask? Kevin -----Original Message----- From: GERMAN-KINGDOMS-D-request@rootsweb.com <GERMAN-KINGDOMS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: GERMAN-KINGDOMS-D@rootsweb.com <GERMAN-KINGDOMS-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, July 23, 2000 4:18 PM Subject: GERMAN-KINGDOMS-D Digest V00 #257

I am looking for information on August Carle Frederick Stade born in 1850 in Mecklenburg Schwerin, Northern Germany. He settled in northern Illinois where he married Augusta Catherina Whilelmina Roloff in 1880. Augusta was born in Cook County, Illinois. Her parents were Christopher and Anna. Christopher was born in Mechlenburg Stalatz, Germany. I would like any information on either the Stade or Roloff family. Sue Stewart

Still looking for the Bernhardt Koeppe family who came from Germany and settled in Wisconsin, late 1860's era. Bernhardt, and wife, Dorothea, and one son, Bernhardt, Jr. After they settled in Neenah, Wisconsin, they had Hedwig (later known as Hattie), William, and in 1870, Louis Arthur Koeppe was born. He would be my late husband's grandfather.................Does anyone know/heard of this family? Thank you, June D. Koeppe

Would love to hear from anyone researching the same line: Descendants of Heinrich Maurer 1 Heinrich MAURER . +Maria SCHNEIDER ........ 2 Heinrich MAURER b: Abt. 1776 in Hundheim, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany d: 26 January 1838 ............ +Maria Rosina STROBEL b: 27 December 1777 in Bosenbach, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany m: 26 February 1799 d: 11 November 1842 ................... 3 Jacob MAURER b: 04 May 1801 in Bosenbach, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany ................... 3 Daniel MAURER b: 03 February 1803 in Bosenbach, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany ....................... +Margaretha KOEBEL b: in Neiderstaufenbach, Germany m: 12 February 1828 ................... 3 Maria (Katharina) MAURER b: 09 March 1809 in Bosenbach, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany d: 14 February 1880 ....................... +(Georg) Peter DICK b: 01 September 1806 in Bosenbach, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany m: 12 December 1833 d: 11 March 1877 ................... 3 Peter MAURER b: 12 March 1812 in Bosenbach, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany d: 31 January 1834 ................... 3 (infant) MAURER b: 14 September 1814 in Bosenbach, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany d: 14 September 1814 ................... 3 Maria Margaretha MAURER b: 21 June 1817 in Bosenbach, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany ................... 3 Friedrich MAURER b: 20 January 1823 in Bosenbach, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany d: 04 November 1837 Regards, Nancy M. Atkinson SEARCH my GEDCOM at Rootsweb: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=rascalz ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Researching Surnames England - ATKINSON, GLEDHILL (Halifax Yorkshire), TAYLOR (Lanchester, Durham) Germany - DICK, JUNG, ZSCHAU, GRIESBACH, LEIXNER, SCHMITT, SCHMIDT, GILCHER, MAURER, MERCKER, STROBEL, WEBER Connecticut & Massachusetts - BERARD Massachusetts - GAGUE Ireland - O'DONNELL, CANNON, SHEA, VALLELY