Hi Gordon, Thanks for the tip on the 1880 census. Seems to be down this weekend but will check on Monday. Kind regards. Inez

Hello Niall , Thank you so very much for your leads. Isn't it amazing how small the world is getting? There you are in Australia helping me in California. Again thank you. Inez Gardner

Any info re Gustav Dettloff either born in Schwerin or Berlin in the mid 19th century. I don't know the year he arrived in NY. He was cited by the City of Brooklyn, as a Naval veteren, for his part in the Civil war. He served on the Sasacus and was wounded in Albermarle Sound ..then taken to New Bern, NC. to recover. He was the founder of the first German Lodge of the Masonic order in Brooklyn, NY. He also was VP of the East New York Savings Bank and a comptroller with the NY Life Insurance Co. He married Catherine Murphy and lived in Evergreen, (Brooklyn), New York. He also had something to do with the Cypress Hills Crematory and was connected in some way with the water/ sanitation commission for the city of Brooklyn. His son, my grandfather, was John Barton Dettloff of Brooklyn, NY, married to Catherine Lynch. If anyone has any information re my mother's family It would be greatly appreciated. I understand there was a book written re the Dettloff family of Schwerin. Please send any information to: [email protected] and [email protected] Ever grateful, KNJennings

This is a message to all the Shaumburg-Lippers out there, I am seeking info on the following ancestors who immigrated to Maxfield Township, Bremer County, Iowa. Their lineages all trace back to Schaumburg-Lippe in the 19th century. Their surnames are: Meyer/Tegtmeier, from Gross Nenndorf, Kur Hesse Moeller from Suelbeck, near Buckburg Kraeft/ Bartels from Niedernholz & Hulshagen Gerber/Steuerberg from Vornhagen, Beckdorf, & Probsthagen Let me know if any of you see connections, Joe Kenney, Palmer, Alaska

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http://www.worldroots.com/brigitte/occupat.htm Ok, now just click & go. This works fine with my MS Internet Explorer. Leslie (Bridges) Kohler: Rootsweb List Owner for ~ McMURRY TROTTER MOADAIR KOEHLER MO-ABSTRACTS

Hi Shirley, It's not Lippe-Detmond, but Lippe-Detmold. It is a region in Westfalen, Germany. Maybe you should also join the Westfalen list? You can subscribe by mailing to: [email protected] and write 'subscribe westfalen-l', without quotes in the message body. (Note, the last character of westfalen-l is an L) Kind regards / Met vriendelijke groet, Sietske Hoogerhuis <[email protected]> Hoofddorp, Netherlands Researching GROTJOHAN(N), STOCK, STOCKMEIJER in Westfalen, Germany ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: <[email protected]> Aan: <[email protected]> Verzonden: zaterdag 11 september 1999 3:02 Onderwerp: [GERMANKING] Rickmeyer > Looking for information and descendents of.the Rickmeyer (Rickmeier) and > Depping family from Rickbruch near Almena, Lippe-Detmond. Grateful for any > contacts. There were 3 sons that came to Wisconsin with a large group of > Lippe-Detmonders in the 1850. Interested in the migration of these people to > America. Thanks > Shirley > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > >

From Pennsylvania German Pioneers [List 172C] At the Court House at Philadelphia, Tuesday, the 24th September 1751. Present: William Peters, Esquire The Foreigners whose names are underwriten, imported in the Ship Neptune, John Mason, Commander, from Rotterdam & last from Cowes, did this day take the usual Qualifications & subscribe them. By List 144. Whole Freights 300. Messrs. Shoemaker. Melchior Trautman Johann Petter Trautmann Johan Leonhart Trautman There is a DISCOUSTION on where these men came from and how they are related! There are two possible towns in Germany, any help narrowing this down would be appreciated. there are coppies of there signitures and other data at http://members.aol.com/troutman98/ if it would help anyone. Bayern, Germany or maybe Oldenwald German Keith _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Folks The URL is NOT underlined correctly. The " mark is clearly underscored and therefore is in the address and your browser has no reason to ignore it because it IS there. Computers do not think they only do as they are told, and if they are told that the address has a " on the end than they can not ignore it because they have no ability to ignore. That is a human quality. Try this to get to the occupations URL. http://www.worldroots.com/brigitte/occupat.htm Kevin M. Palan Hawley, PA -----Original Message----- From: Fritsche, Juergen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, September 10, 1999 8:46 AM Subject: [GERMANKING] AW: URL problems >Hi Bob and all, > >sorry, have no special "magic" skills! It is to say that the said URL ( >http://www.worldroots.com/brigitte/occupat.htm".) is underlined correctly: >ending with the "m" of htm. So every browser should (and obviously really >does) ignore the " and . at the end which are not underlined and thus not >perceptible by browsers as part of the URL. > >My Netscape ignores the " and it shows no error messages at all. Re >Microsoft, I know a nice phrase: "Gates oder Gates nicht?", pronounced like >the German question "geht's oder geht's nicht?" which means in English "does >it work or not?" ... > >I don't use the IE, so I'm not able to test this. But I asked a colleague >using the IE to do this, and *it worked fine*!!! > >Juergen

Hello list My Mecklenburg ancestry is as follows. I would be pleased to hear from anyone who has any interest in any of these individuals. Arnold Weirmeir, Apsley, Ontario, Canada [email protected] Direct Descendants of Cordt Wihrmeier 1 Cordt WIHRMEIER b: Bef. 1686 d: Aft. 1707 .. +Greta LANGEN b: Bef. 1686 m: October 25, 1702 in Evangelical Lutheran Church at Retschow d: Aft. 1707 ......... 2 Cordt Hinrics WIHRMEYER b: September 26, 1707 in Groß Siemen, Mecklenberg-Schwerin, Germany d: Aft. 1734 ............. +Greta Dorthe HÜNMÖRDERS b: December 09, 1714 in Groß Siemen, Mecklenberg-Schwerin, Germany m: October 27, 1730 in Evangelical Lutheran Church at Retschow d: Aft. 1734 Father: Hans HÜNMÖRDERS Mother: Gretta SCHOMACHER .................... 3 Daniel Christian WIERMEYER b: December 27, 1734 in Groß Siemen, Mecklenberg-Schwerin, Germany d: May 08, 1784 ........................ +Maria Margaretha ERICHEN b: Bef. 1739 m: October 31, 1755 in Evangelical Lutheran Church at Retschow d: Aft. 1771 ............................... 4 Claus Hinrich WIERMEÝER b: June 04, 1767 in Groß Siemen, Mecklenberg-Schwerin, Germany d: May 13, 1819 in Groß Siemen, Mecklenberg-Schwerin, Germany ................................... +Catharina Charlotta REIRER b: January 20, 1776 in Poischendorf, Mecklenberg-Schwerin, Germany m: October 24, 1799 in Evangelical Lutheran Church in Retschow d: May 19, 1815 in Püschow, Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Germany Father: Johann Jochim REIRER ........................................... 5 Georg Friedrich Daniel WIERMEÝER b: November 09, 1807 in Groß Siemen, Mecklenberg-Schwerin, Germany d: Unknown ............................................... +Catharina Maria Elisabeth SCHUMACHER b: October 18, 1807 in Lüningshagen, Mecklenberg-Schwerin, Germany m: May 05, 1831 in Evangelical Lutheran Church in Satow d: May 01, 1837 in Püschow, Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Germany Father: Peter Christopher SCHUMACHER Mother: Anna Elisabeth Ilsabe BÜHLOW ...................................................... 6 Joachim Peter Christian WIERMEYER b: July 11, 1831 in Lüningshagen, Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Germany d: August 01, 1905 in Palmerston, Ont. .......................................................... +Henrica Christine Friederica Ernestine RUWOLDT b: October 29, 1830 in Satow, Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Germany m: May 15, 1857 in Evangelical Lutheran Church in Retschow d: November 14, 1877 in Bentinck Twp., Grey Co. ON Father: Johann SCHROEDER Mother: Catharina Maria Hanna RUWOLDT ................................................................. 7 Joachim Hinrich Christian WIERMEIER b: March 13, 1858 in Püschow, Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Germany d: May 21, 1939 in Bentinck Twp., Grey Co. ON ..................................................................... +Sophia MAUER b: 1854 in Bentinck Twp., Grey Co., ON m: June 02, 1881 in Hanover, Ont. d: January 12, 1934 in Hanover, Ont. Father: Elias MAUER Mother: Sophia 'Henrietta' Maria BLUHM ............................................................................ 8 Herman Frederick WEIRMEIR b: April 30, 1891 in Bentinck Twp., Grey Co. ON d: August 21, 1942 in Kingston General Hospital, Kingston, Ont. ............................... *2nd Wife of Claus Hinrich WIERMEÝER:

Hi all, The URL in this latest post from Juergen worked for me just as it appears there. Regards :0) Stan

Keith, Do you have access to the Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1999 supp, vol.2? I think I found Johann and his family listed there. It indicates they came from Saarland (Prussia) in 1846. It gives references to check for more information. My great-grandfather came from a different area about the same time. I believe the German government in each area at that time had to give you permission to leave. Forced military service was a good reason to leave. Hope this is helpful. Let me know. Kathleen

Looking for information and descendents of.the Rickmeyer (Rickmeier) and Depping family from Rickbruch near Almena, Lippe-Detmond. Grateful for any contacts. There were 3 sons that came to Wisconsin with a large group of Lippe-Detmonders in the 1850. Interested in the migration of these people to America. Thanks Shirley

Hi, No, it doesn't work with IE. Just remove the ".) at the end of the URL, and it works fine. Kind regards / Met vriendelijke groet, Sietske Hoogerhuis <[email protected]> Researching GROTJOHAN(N), STOCK, STOCKMEIJER ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: Fritsche, Juergen <[email protected]> Aan: <[email protected]sweb.com> Verzonden: vrijdag 10 september 1999 14:46 Onderwerp: [GERMANKING] AW: URL problems Hi Bob and all, sorry, have no special "magic" skills! It is to say that the said URL ( http://www.worldroots.com/brigitte/occupat.htm".) is underlined correctly: ending with the "m" of htm. So every browser should (and obviously really does) ignore the " and . at the end which are not underlined and thus not perceptible by browsers as part of the URL. My Netscape ignores the " and it shows no error messages at all. Re Microsoft, I know a nice phrase: "Gates oder Gates nicht?", pronounced like the German question "geht's oder geht's nicht?" which means in English "does it work or not?" ... I don't use the IE, so I'm not able to test this. But I asked a colleague using the IE to do this, and *it worked fine*!!! Juergen > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Robert Albert [SMTP:[email protected]] > Gesendet am: Dienstag, 7. September 1999 18:20 > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Fw: [GERMANKING] AW: German terms of occupations > > Very strange. I cannot click on your url and get anything but an error > message. I am using Internet Explorer and on Prodigy. When I click on the > original message I sent back a little while ago I get the site immediately. > Also when I typed it in the last email I got there quickly, but the one you > sent yesterday doesn't work for me. Are you a computer wizard and have > insight into this? Viele Danke > > Robert > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fritsche, Juergen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 6:43 AM > Subject: [GERMANKING] AW: German terms of occupations > > > Hi Keith, > > someone posted the following URL tip regarding "German terms of occupations" > lately on another list: > > "This particular site is one of the best I have found for finding > occupations, both current and archaic. While I am sure that many people have > seen this site over the years, here it is again: > http://www.worldroots.com/brigitte/occupat.htm". > > Hope it is helpful. > > Juergen > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Keith Kurtz [SMTP:[email protected]] > > Gesendet am: Dienstag, 7. September 1999 05:33 > > An: [email protected] > > Betreff: [GERMANKING] Loesch > > > > On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, "Michael Palmer" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Der Ackerer Johann Loesch, 43 Jahre, mit seiner Frau Katharina Fuchs, > > 44 Jahre, und den Kindern Peter, 15 Jahre; Katharina, 13 Jahre; > > Barbara, 11 Jahre; Johann, 9 Jahre; Jakob, 4 Jahre; und Maria, 6 > > Monate. Of Uchtelfangen [now part of D-66557 Illingen]. Permission > > to emigrate to the U.S.A., 26 June 1846. > > > > > > I can not find the word Ackerer, but I found that acker is to till or > > of the land I thought Ackerer is a farmer but there was another word > > in the dictionary for farmer. Could Ackerer be the land owner or > > perhaps a farm laborer and not a farmer? > > > > Who gave the permission to emigrate, The German Government, or was it > > permission from the US government to enter the US? > > > > What German government would have been in power in Uchtelfangen at that > time? > > > > According to my other records Peter should have been 17 in 1846, My > > Aunt once told me that her great grandparents (Johann) had emigrated > > to keep Peter from having to go to war. What where the laws like > > regarding military service ? If they they had admitted he was 17 > > could he have left the country? Was there a specific war going on or > > just the never ending fueds? > > > > > > I am trying to find the ship they sailed on. Once permission was > > granted to leave how long would they have to wait to get a boat and > > from what port would they have likely taken? > > > > > > Your help and patience is appreciated. > > Keith Kurtz > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== Sister, Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected]

The history I started with when I first tried to understand Germany was "A Concise History of Germany," by Mary Fuylbrook, published by Cambridge Unversity Press, first published in 1990. It's available in paperback. I found it on the shelf at a Barnes & Noble store and it seemed to give me a once over to sort of set the stage for how Germany came to be. It's easy to read. Won't give a lot of detail abt. specific areas, but it did help me grasp the overall history. pat smith brooklyn, ny

Dear Denise and Listmembers, Your posts about books in English on German history and other topics prompts me to list some that I have found to be worthwhile reading. Lest you think that there are not many books on German history in English, let me assure you that you'll never run out of reading if you look for some of these, either in your library or on net book dealers' lists. Barraclough, Geoffrey. Mediæval Germany, 911-1250 - Essays by German Historians. 2v. Oxford: Basil Blackwell, 1948 Barraclough, Geoffrey. The Origins of Modern Germany. New York: Capricorn [rpt of 1946 edn.], 1963 (other editions exist). Benecke, Gerhard. Society and Politics in Germany 1500-1750. London/Toronto: Routledge & Kegan Paul/University of Toronto Press, 1974. Benecke, Gerhard. Germany in the Thirty Years' War. New York: St. Martin's Press, 1979. Bruford, W.H. Germany in the Eighteenth Century - The Social Background of the Literary Revival. Cambridge: Cambridge U.P., 1968. Cohn, Henry J. The Government of the Rhine Palatinate in the Fifteenth Century. Oxford: Oxford U.P., 1965. Dorwart, Reinhold August. The Prussian Welfare State before 1740. Cambridge MA: Harvard U.P., 1971. Ergang, Robert. The Myth of the All-Destructive Fury of the Thirty Years' War. Pocono Pines PA: The Craftsmen, 1956. Ford, Guy Stanton. Hanover and Prussia, 1795-1803 - A Study in Neutrality. New York: AMS Press [rpt of 1903 edn.], 1967. Friedrichs, Christopher R. Urban Society in an Age of War: Nördlingen, 1580-1720. Princeton: Princeton U.P., 1979. Hughes, Michael. Early Modern Germany, 1477-1806. London: Macmillan, 1992. Imhof, Arthur E. Lost Worlds - How Our European Ancestors Coped with Everyday Life and Why Life is So Hard Today. Charlottesville/London: University Press of Virginia, 1996. Janssen, Johannes. History of the German People at the Close of the Middle Ages. St. Louis MO: B. Herder, n.d. Kamphoefner, Walter D., Wolfgang Helbich and Ulrike Sommer. News from the Land of Freedom - German Immigrants Write Home. Susan Carter Vogel, trans. Ithaca/London: Cornell University Press, 1988, 1991. Keil, Hartmut (ed.). German Workers' Culture in the United States, 1850-1920. Washington/London: Smithsonian Institution Press, 1988. Luebke, Frederick C. Germans in the New World - Essays in the History of Immigration. Urbana/Chicago: University of Illinois Press, 1990. Mayhew, Alan. Rural Settlement and Farming in Germany. New York: Barnes and Noble, 1973. Nadel, Stanley. Little Germany - Ethnicity, Religion, and Class in New York City, 1845-80. Urbana/Chicago: University of Illinois Press, 1990. Pedlow, Gregory W. The Survival of the Hessian Nobility 1770-1870. Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1988. Polisensky, J.V. The Thirty Years War. London: New English Library, 1974. Rabb, Theodore K. (ed.). The Thirty Years' War. Lexington MA: D.C. Heath, 1972. Rivinius, Karl Josef. The Social Movement in 19th Century Germany. Munich: Heinz Moos Verlag, 1979. Schneider, Dorothee. Trade Unions and Community - The German Working Class in New York City, 1870-1900. Urbana/Chicago: University of Illinois Press, 1994. Scribner, Bob and Gerhard Benecke. The German Peasant War 1525 - New Viewpoints. London: George Allen & Unwin, 1979. Strauss, Gerald. Nuremberg in the 16th Century. New York: John Wiley & Sons, 1966. Tolzmann, Don Heinrich (ed.). The German Immigrant in America: F.W. Bogen's Guidebook. Bowie, MD: Heritage, 1992. Walker, Mack. German Home Towns - Community, State, and General Estate 1648-1871. Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 1971. Wust, Klaus and Heinz Moos (eds.). Three Hundred Years of German Immigrants in North American/Dreihundert Jahre Deutsche Einwanderer in Nordamerika, 1683-1983. Gräfelfing vor München: "300 Jahre Deutsche in Amerika" Verlags-GmbH, 1983 Hope you can find something of interest among the above. All best wishes, Doug Nicol, Santa Rosa CA

http://www.worldroots.com/brigitte/occupat.htm Ok, now just click & go. This works fine with my MS Internet Explorer. Leslie (Bridges) Kohler: Rootsweb List Owner for ~ McMURRY TROTTER MOADAIR KOEHLER MO-ABSTRACTS

Don't know if you're related to the aristocracy of zur Lippe or not, but sounds like there may be a connection somewhere. The Principality of Lippe is available in English as a test version http://www2.genealogy.net/gene/reg/NRHE-WFA/lippe.html or http://www.genealogy.net/gene/reg/NRHE-WFA/lippe.html "Barbara Tabor" <[email protected]> on 09/09/99 06:06:22 PM To: [email protected] cc: Subject: [GERMANKING] Lipps I'm researching the Lipps (Leepe, Leaps, Lippe) family, evidently from Lippestadt. Henry Lipps sailed from Rotterdam to Philadelphia in 1752. He was my gggggrandfather, who later migrated to Greenbrier Co., WV. Barbara Lipps Tabor ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== Sister, Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected]

My IE5/OE did not ignore the quote period parenthesis, but the minute I receive an error, I backed past the quote period parenthesis and hit the carriage return and went right to the site. Good site. Thanks! Elaine Researching S.L.E.P.I.C.K.A. and H.R.U.S.K.A. ----- Original Message ----- From: Juanetta Powers <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 9:56 AM Subject: [GERMANKING] URL Problems I have been clicking on this URL out of curiosity ever since it was first sent in and alot of you were reporting problems. I thought since I'm new to using the internet I might have a problem but I get through every time. I use Netscape Navigator. Juanetta Powers > Subject: [GERMANKING] AW: URL problems > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:46:03 +0200 > From: "Fritsche, Juergen" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hi Bob and all, > > sorry, have no special "magic" skills! It is to say that the said URL ( > http://www.worldroots.com/brigitte/occupat.htm".) is underlined correctly: > ending with the "m" of htm. So every browser should (and obviously really > does) ignore the " and . at the end which are not underlined and thus not > perceptible by browsers as part of the URL. > > My Netscape ignores the " and it shows no error messages at all. Re > Microsoft, I know a nice phrase: "Gates oder Gates nicht?", pronounced like > the German question "geht's oder geht's nicht?" which means in English "does > it work or not?" ... > > I don't use the IE, so I'm not able to test this. But I asked a colleague > using the IE to do this, and *it worked fine*!!! > > Juergen > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Robert Albert [SMTP:[email protected]] > > Gesendet am: Dienstag, 7. September 1999 18:20 > > An: [email protected] > > Betreff: Fw: [GERMANKING] AW: German terms of occupations > > > > Very strange. I cannot click on your url and get anything but an error > > message. I am using Internet Explorer and on Prodigy. When I click on the > > original message I sent back a little while ago I get the site > immediately. > > Also when I typed it in the last email I got there quickly, but the one > you > > sent yesterday doesn't work for me. Are you a computer wizard and have > > insight into this? Viele Danke > > > > Robert > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fritsche, Juergen <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 6:43 AM > > Subject: [GERMANKING] AW: German terms of occupations > > > > > > Hi Keith, > > > > someone posted the following URL tip regarding "German terms of > occupations" > > lately on another list: > > > > "This particular site is one of the best I have found for finding > > occupations, both current and archaic. While I am sure that many people > have > > seen this site over the years, here it is again: > > http://www.worldroots.com/brigitte/occupat.htm". > > > > Hope it is helpful. > > > > Juergen > >

Hi Inez, is the quotation mark of the said URL *underlined* (like the complete URL) or not? If not, it should be *not* considered by IE as part of the URL! Sorry, I can't help more at the moment. Maybe Bill Gates is more knowledgeable ... ;-) Juergen > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Inez Gardner [SMTP:[email protected]] > Gesendet am: Freitag, 10. September 1999 15:59 > An: [email protected] > Betreff: [GERMANKING] quotation marks > > Juergen, > My Internet Explorer 5 won't ignore quotation marks either;o) > > Inez