Lisa at Grey Horse schrieb: > > My g-g-grandfather Frederick OTTO's records are all very consistent that > he came from Saxon Weimar in 1854. Where exactly is Saxon Weimar? > Today in Thuringia. The old principalities there were splitted to many parts, that makes it difficult to describe the exact geographic position. Look at my web site: http://home.t-online.de/home/Dieter.Taube/ahnen.htm There you find some Thuringia maps to download. Dieter

Does anyone know of a good mailing list for research in Wales? I have many Welsh lines, little time, and no expertise in Welsh research, but am curious to see others are doing. I like information about sources especially. Peter

My g-g-grandfather Frederick OTTO's records are all very consistent that he came from Saxon Weimar in 1854. Where exactly is Saxon Weimar? Thanks. Lisa in Wisconsin

Hi, It is a German book Called"Familiennamen ,Alter, Herkunft und Bedeutung" Family names , age,origin and meaning. Katharina > > >Could you please give a little more iformation on your posting. What do >you mean by "The name Hentschel (year 1369 Hensel-Pechmann in eng.bad >luck man or unlucky man)." What are your soures for this information? > >Katharina Hines wrote: > > > Hi, > > The name Hentschel (year 1369 Hensel-Pechmann in eng.bad luck man > > or unlucky man). > > Katharina > > > > > >The earliest Hentzschel thay exists in my background > > >is from Doebeln, Saxony. It seems to be a name > > >associated with the Saxony state. Margarethe > > >Hentzschel * Jan 1562 in Obergoseln, + 20 Dec 1629 in > > >Doebeln, oo Martin Peter Wetzig 16 Nov 1583 in > > >Doebeln. > > > > > >--- Herbert Mahler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > To: Mary Ann, > > > > Your posting is interesting to me as my great aunt > > > > married a Theodor Hentschel on 23.iv.1872 in Muskau > > > > on > > > > the Neiße River. Muskau was located in > > > > Niederschlesien (Lower Silesia) in the Kingdom of > > > > Prussia near the border of the Kingdom of Saxony. > > > > The > > > > Hentschel brothers had a local department store > > > > there > > > > that was, I believe, later move to Hirschberg also > > > > in > > > > Niederschlesien. I have some pictures. These could > > > > be > > > > relatives of your Hentschels. > > > > In regard to Graschwitz, I have located it on the > > > > map > > > > about 5 or 6 km south and just slightly west of > > > > Bautzen. Bautzen was in the Kingdom of Saxony and > > > > is > > > > about 50 km south west of Muskau, which is now on > > > > the > > > > Polish border and is now included in the Free State > > > > of > > > > Saxony. > > > > Regards, > > > > Herbert Mahler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > > > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:48:00 -0700 > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > To: GERMAN-KI[email protected] > > > > > Subject: [GERMANKING] HENTSCHEL > > > > > > > > > > Seeking information about ancestors and > > > > descendants > > > > > of Johann Gustav Hentshel, "b. 20 Feb 1848 in > > > > > Gnaschwitz (alternatively recorded in family > > > > > records as Graschwitz and Gnauschwitz) near > > > > Bautzen, > > > > > Saxony". Another family member says he might have > > > > > been born in Goerlitz. Part of the confusion > > > > > could be due to handwriting. > > > > > > > > > > Johann Gustav's father was Johann Carl Gottlieb > > > > > Hentschel. His wife was Johanna Augusta > > > > > Schuster-Boehme Hentschel, daughter of Fredericke > > > > > Charlotte > > > > > Schuster and adopted by her husband Mr. Boehme. > > > > > > > > > > --Mary Ann > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > > > > Brother, > > > > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > > > > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > >==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > > >Brother, > > >Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > > >Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > > Brother, > > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > > > > >==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== >Brother, >Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? >Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Could you please give a little more iformation on your posting. What do you mean by "The name Hentschel (year 1369 Hensel-Pechmann in eng.bad luck man or unlucky man)." What are your soures for this information? Katharina Hines wrote: > Hi, > The name Hentschel (year 1369 Hensel-Pechmann in eng.bad luck man > or unlucky man). > Katharina > > > >The earliest Hentzschel thay exists in my background > >is from Doebeln, Saxony. It seems to be a name > >associated with the Saxony state. Margarethe > >Hentzschel * Jan 1562 in Obergoseln, + 20 Dec 1629 in > >Doebeln, oo Martin Peter Wetzig 16 Nov 1583 in > >Doebeln. > > > >--- Herbert Mahler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > To: Mary Ann, > > > Your posting is interesting to me as my great aunt > > > married a Theodor Hentschel on 23.iv.1872 in Muskau > > > on > > > the Neiße River. Muskau was located in > > > Niederschlesien (Lower Silesia) in the Kingdom of > > > Prussia near the border of the Kingdom of Saxony. > > > The > > > Hentschel brothers had a local department store > > > there > > > that was, I believe, later move to Hirschberg also > > > in > > > Niederschlesien. I have some pictures. These could > > > be > > > relatives of your Hentschels. > > > In regard to Graschwitz, I have located it on the > > > map > > > about 5 or 6 km south and just slightly west of > > > Bautzen. Bautzen was in the Kingdom of Saxony and > > > is > > > about 50 km south west of Muskau, which is now on > > > the > > > Polish border and is now included in the Free State > > > of > > > Saxony. > > > Regards, > > > Herbert Mahler > > > > > > > > > > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:48:00 -0700 > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [GERMANKING] HENTSCHEL > > > > > > > > Seeking information about ancestors and > > > descendants > > > > of Johann Gustav Hentshel, "b. 20 Feb 1848 in > > > > Gnaschwitz (alternatively recorded in family > > > > records as Graschwitz and Gnauschwitz) near > > > Bautzen, > > > > Saxony". Another family member says he might have > > > > been born in Goerlitz. Part of the confusion > > > > could be due to handwriting. > > > > > > > > Johann Gustav's father was Johann Carl Gottlieb > > > > Hentschel. His wife was Johanna Augusta > > > > Schuster-Boehme Hentschel, daughter of Fredericke > > > > Charlotte > > > > Schuster and adopted by her husband Mr. Boehme. > > > > > > > > --Mary Ann > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > > > Brother, > > > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > > > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > >==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > >Brother, > >Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > >Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected]

Hello everyone! Just received this information from Germany on my FINCKE line. Would like to share with everyone to see if connections can be made. Have connected one family in AZ already. Our GGGGrandfathers were brothers! It's Genealogy fun!!! Copy of the tribe-records of Waldeck: Comment: Any dates (birth, death, marriage) without location happened to be in Waldeck Tribe Nr. 535 Georg Friedrich FINCKE, *14.11.1762 in Arolsen, +21.11.1824 was a curate in Netze 1789-91 Minister in Berich and Niederwerbe and principal in Waldeck 1791-95 Minister in Freienhagen 1795-1803 and Waldeck 1803-24 married 13.7.1790 Christina Elisabeth ALBRACHT, *11.3.1776 in Hüddingen, +17.3.1822 Children: (1) Johanette Dorothea Sophia Henriette *2.5.1791 in Netze, +8.1.1861 in Bringhausen married 17.8.1823 the Minister Georg KLEINSCHMIDT (2) Christian Philipp Eliser, Minister, *4.4.1793 , +6.3.1855 in Oberwaroldern married with Louise FRICKE (3) Caroline Maria Christiane, *20.1.1798 in Freienhagen, +2.1.1800 in Freienhagen (4) Johann Friedrich Christian, *21.12.1800 in Freienhagen, +28.11.1848 married 21.4.1825 Christiane Wilhelmine HENZE *17.1.1805 , +14.9.1862 (5) Georg Henrich Christian, Minister, *1.3.1804 , +30.12.1880 in Korbach married 25.8.1857 Wilhelmine Charlotte Henriette Auguste Louise ESAU *11.7.1819 in Sachsenberg +2.10.1881 in ?, Daughter of Dr.med. Karl ESAU from Sachsenberg They had a son called Adolf, * ?, +7.3.1884 in Berlin after an accident no further children known Tribe Nr. 536 Johann Friedrich Christian FINCKE (see 535), Council and farmer till 1848 *21.12.1800 in Freienhagen +28.11.1848 , married 21.4.1825 Christiane Wilhelmine HENZE *17.1.1805 , +14.9.1862 Children: (1) Dorothea Christiane Phlippine, *23.1825 , +5.12.1860 married with Johann Christian SÖHNE (2) Georg August Wilhelm Christian Theodor, *4.3.1827 , +1.12.1887 , married 29.1.1854 Henriette Louise SCHREFF (see 537) (3) Henriette, *6.4.1831, +7.4.1831 Tribe Nr. 537 Georg August Wilhelm Christian Theodor (see 536), farmer, mayor till 1887, *4.3.1827 , +1.12.1887, married 29.1.1854 Henriette Louise SCHREFF, *25.8.1837 , +13.4.1900 Children: (...take a breath, 10 following) (1) Christiane Wilhelmine Dorothea Louise, *18.7.1859 , + ?, married 6.7.1884 Berthold Daniel KÖTHNER in Bergheim (2) Sophia Adolphine Christiane, * 14.1.1862, +6.6.1864 (3) Friedrich Wilhelm Adolf, *28.9.1863, +19.11.1931 married 26.12.1895 Louise SÖHNE (see 538), married November 1905 Maria MORHENNE (see 539) (4) Karl Christian, *28.9.1863, +28.2.1866 (5) Caroline Friederike Christiane, *15.10.1865, +24.3.1912 in Marburg married 26.12.1895 Karl LAMM (6) Christian Wilhelm Ludwig Martin, *24.1.1868, +31.5.1869 (7) Karl Christian, *15.5.1870, + ? in Frankfurt, gofer (8) Anna Maria Henriette, *30.10.1872, + ?, deaconess (9) Christian Karl, *10.1.1875, +21.3.1922 in Gelsenkirchen, cartwright, married 18.11.1904 Berta KLEIN in Wuppertal-Elberfeld (10) Friedrich Heinrich Ludwig, *24.6.1877, + ? in Mettmann Tribe Nr. 538 Friedrich Wilhelm Adolf, farmer, (see 537) *28.9.1863, +19.11.1931 married 26.12.1895 Christiane Friederike Louise SÖHNE, * 23.12.1869, +15.11.1901 by tuberculosis in Marburg Children: (1) Marie Henriette Christiane, *2.10.1896, +24.1.1975 in Bad Wildungen married 15.5.1921 Friedrich PFEIFFERLING from Sachsenberg (2) Christian Friedrich Heinrich Theodor, *11.8.1898, +30.4.1982, married 14.6.1930 Christiane BECHTHOLD (see 540) (3) Friedrich Karl Heinrich, *5.6.1900, +17.4.1990 in Essen married 1.6.1929 Marie BÖTTCHER Tribe Nr. 539 Friedrich Wilhelm Adolf, farmer, (see 537), *28.9.1863, +19.11.1931 married 27.8.1905 Maria Dorothea Christiane MORHENNE *5.2.1875, +22.11.1947 Children: (1) Karl Heinrich Christian Ludwig, *29.8.1906, +29.10.1980 in Bad Wildungen married 9.3.1940 Erna SÖLZER in Netze (2) Heinrich Christian Friedrich, *19.10.1908, +14.2.1986 in Bad Wildungen (3) Matha Lina Henriette Marie, *26.11.1910, +23.7.1991 in Bad Wildungen (4) Luise, *23.7.1912, +18.3.1942 in Göttingen Tribe Nr. 540 Christian Friedrich Heinrich Theodor, farmer, (see 538), *11.8.1898, +30.4.1982 in Bad Wildungen married 14.6.1930 Christiane Johanette Friederike Louise BECHTHOLD, *2.2.1903, +12.9.1992 in Lichtenfels Children: (1) Fritz, *4.8.1931 in Sachsenberg, married 7.9.1959 Luise BANGERT (see 542) (2) Christa, *19.4.1933, married 28.3.1959 Kurt BOCK in Schadenbach (3) Ruth, *19.2.1936, +30.6.1990 in Basdorf, married 27.11.1972 Werner LOTH in Ilsdorf (4) Reinhold, *25.8.1940, married 9.2.1979 Karin Luise WIDMAIER (see 544) Tribe Nr. 541 Karl Heinrich, masterfitter, (see 539) *29.8.1906, +29.10.1980 in Bad Wildungen married 9.3.1940 Erna Lina Marie SÖLZER, *14.10.1919 in Netze Children: (1) Walter, *1.10.1942, married 4.4.1970 Elke LAMBACH (see 543) (2) Margret, *9.10.1954, married 29.7.1983 Richard KEELER in Geneve (CH), living in Canada Tribe Nr. 542 Fritz, (see 540), *4.8.1931, married 7.9.1956 Luise BANGERT, *30.6.1933 in Korbach Children: (1) Eckhard, *31.12.1956, married Elke KIRCHHOFF (2) Friedrich, *9.7.1959 in Korbach (3) Ulrich, *2.4.1961 in Bad Wildungen, married 5.5.1989 Carola VALENTIN, Sachsenberg (see 545) Tribe Nr. 543 Walter, masterfitter, (see 541), *1.10.1942 in Sachsenhausen, married Elke LAMBACH, Hemfurth, *29.4.1945 Children: (1) Dirk Hendrik, *23.8.1970 in Bad Wildungen (2) Marc Tobias, *27.6.1973 Tribe Nr. 544 Reinhold (see 540), *25.8.1940, married 9.2.1979 Karin Luise WIDMAIER, Friedrichshafen, *22.10.1937 Tribe Nr. 545 Ulrich, (see 542), qualified engineer, *2.4.1961 in Bad Wildungen, married 5.5.1989 Carola VALENTIN, *12.3.1964, Korbach Children: (1) Jana, *29.10.1989 in Korbach (2) Elena, *1.4.1992 in Korbach Enjoy! Linda Fincke Ramsower-Boucher Burnet, Tx [email protected] Researching: Bexar Co. Texas: ACKERMANN, SCHULMEIER, LIEBE, FINCKE and GOLDBERG from Germany HUSZAR from Austria-Hungary MOREAU From New Jersey, New York and France IRMA, WATZEK, KREUTZER from Austria-Hungary FRANZ, FRICKE, ALBRACHT, KLEINSCHMIDT from Germany

Zentralstelle fur Genealogie info http://www.feefhs.org/fij/ahnstamm.html ;~) Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Reise <[email protected]> Before the German Reunification I had sent many letters to the Zentralstelle fur Genealogie (Center for Genealogy) in Leipzig

Before the German Reunification I had sent many letters to the Zentralstelle fur Genealogie (Center for Genealogy) in Leipzig about records in Mecklenburg and Thuringen. Mainly because I did not know the addresses of the churches. I would write to them in English. After an extended period of time I would get a letter in German from them forwarding the extracts from the appropriate church records. The cost was usually only $18-20. Once I got the church addresses off of the extracts, I stopped writing to Leipzig. Has anyone had contact with the Center for Genealogy, since the reunification, that they can share with the list members? Tom Reise Friendship, WI

The earliest Hentzschel thay exists in my background is from Doebeln, Saxony. It seems to be a name associated with the Saxony state. Margarethe Hentzschel * Jan 1562 in Obergoseln, + 20 Dec 1629 in Doebeln, oo Martin Peter Wetzig 16 Nov 1583 in Doebeln. --- Herbert Mahler <[email protected]> wrote: > To: Mary Ann, > Your posting is interesting to me as my great aunt > married a Theodor Hentschel on 23.iv.1872 in Muskau > on > the Nei�e River. Muskau was located in > Niederschlesien (Lower Silesia) in the Kingdom of > Prussia near the border of the Kingdom of Saxony. > The > Hentschel brothers had a local department store > there > that was, I believe, later move to Hirschberg also > in > Niederschlesien. I have some pictures. These could > be > relatives of your Hentschels. > In regard to Graschwitz, I have located it on the > map > about 5 or 6 km south and just slightly west of > Bautzen. Bautzen was in the Kingdom of Saxony and > is > about 50 km south west of Muskau, which is now on > the > Polish border and is now included in the Free State > of > Saxony. > Regards, > Herbert Mahler > > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:48:00 -0700 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [GERMANKING] HENTSCHEL > > > > Seeking information about ancestors and > descendants > > of Johann Gustav Hentshel, "b. 20 Feb 1848 in > > Gnaschwitz (alternatively recorded in family > > records as Graschwitz and Gnauschwitz) near > Bautzen, > > Saxony". Another family member says he might have > > been born in Goerlitz. Part of the confusion > > could be due to handwriting. > > > > Johann Gustav's father was Johann Carl Gottlieb > > Hentschel. His wife was Johanna Augusta > > Schuster-Boehme Hentschel, daughter of Fredericke > > Charlotte > > Schuster and adopted by her husband Mr. Boehme. > > > > --Mary Ann > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Hi, The name Hentschel (year 1369 Hensel-Pechmann in eng.bad luck man or unlucky man). Katharina > >The earliest Hentzschel thay exists in my background >is from Doebeln, Saxony. It seems to be a name >associated with the Saxony state. Margarethe >Hentzschel * Jan 1562 in Obergoseln, + 20 Dec 1629 in >Doebeln, oo Martin Peter Wetzig 16 Nov 1583 in >Doebeln. > >--- Herbert Mahler <[email protected]> wrote: > > To: Mary Ann, > > Your posting is interesting to me as my great aunt > > married a Theodor Hentschel on 23.iv.1872 in Muskau > > on > > the Neiße River. Muskau was located in > > Niederschlesien (Lower Silesia) in the Kingdom of > > Prussia near the border of the Kingdom of Saxony. > > The > > Hentschel brothers had a local department store > > there > > that was, I believe, later move to Hirschberg also > > in > > Niederschlesien. I have some pictures. These could > > be > > relatives of your Hentschels. > > In regard to Graschwitz, I have located it on the > > map > > about 5 or 6 km south and just slightly west of > > Bautzen. Bautzen was in the Kingdom of Saxony and > > is > > about 50 km south west of Muskau, which is now on > > the > > Polish border and is now included in the Free State > > of > > Saxony. > > Regards, > > Herbert Mahler > > > > > > > > --- [email protected] wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:48:00 -0700 > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [GERMANKING] HENTSCHEL > > > > > > Seeking information about ancestors and > > descendants > > > of Johann Gustav Hentshel, "b. 20 Feb 1848 in > > > Gnaschwitz (alternatively recorded in family > > > records as Graschwitz and Gnauschwitz) near > > Bautzen, > > > Saxony". Another family member says he might have > > > been born in Goerlitz. Part of the confusion > > > could be due to handwriting. > > > > > > Johann Gustav's father was Johann Carl Gottlieb > > > Hentschel. His wife was Johanna Augusta > > > Schuster-Boehme Hentschel, daughter of Fredericke > > > Charlotte > > > Schuster and adopted by her husband Mr. Boehme. > > > > > > --Mary Ann > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > > Brother, > > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > > > > > > >===== > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > >==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== >Brother, >Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? >Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Good afternoon. I've sent an e-mail to the website where Sigrid Waterholter was located but have not gotten any response yet. In the meantime, is there any possibility of anyone else researching the WATERHOLTER family? I'm still trying to locate the definite geographic location of where my great-great grandfather, William Frederick WATERHOLTER and his brother George Herman WATERHOLTER emmigrated from around 1848 to 1850. They were both in their early teens when they showed up in 1850 Washington, D.C. without their parents. Thanks! Pat McCoy

Hello: Ruthenia is a region in the Ukraine. John from Texas.

Hi Listers, I have a new problem. Where or what was Ruthenia? The people from there spoke German. They were supposed to have come from Bamberg. Are they close? The name I am looking for is Boushon in the US but I found out that it is or was Bauschan when they came to the US in 1868 or 1869, I have had both those dates given to me by different cousins. But it is a place to start. But back to Ruthenia. Any help out there? Thank you Donna

It's possible to buy a reproduction of a 1757 map of Vogtland Reuss-Plauischen-Herrschaft, which shows the area of the two main Reuss Lands. The Reuss Alte Linie was divided into the Upper Greiz lands and Lower Greiz lands at this time. This division was the cause of the buiding of the lower palace in Greiz, in addition to the already existing upper palace. The two halves were later reunited. If anyone is interested, I can go into more detail about the history from this time to the 2nd half of the 19th century. The details for the maps are Publisher: Verlag Rockstuhl, Lange Brüdergasse, D-99947 Bad Langensalza ISBN: 3-932554-09-4 for rolled map suitable for hanging on a wall, or ISBN: 3-932554-09-6 for a folded map They both cost 181.00 Austrian Schillings or 23.00 Swiss Francs or 24.80 German Marks

If your parish was located in the former East Germany, most of those books have not yet been filmed, as the East German Regime did not allow filming of documents during its reign. Also, because the socialist government did not encourage churches, some of the church books are "in a mess' as a researcher from the former East Germany told me. I have had mixed reactions, in writing to churches: at the first one I found a researcher who really helped me a lot, at other churches I did not even get a reply, or a short letter that they are not interested in helping. Also getting different addresses for what seemed to be the same parish, did not really help. Regards Almuth ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 4:24 AM Subject: [GERMANKING] Muntscha near Auma, Triptis and Zeulenroda Thuringia According to United States Civil War records my gggrandfather, Christian Gottlieb Doelz, was born 4/1/1833 in Muntscha. Can someone identify the parish name for Muntscha? Can someone give me advice on how best to research this area? I'm trying to determine if Christian had any brothers or sisters. I've used the IGI and Anchestral files online and at my local FHL but not found anything. I've searched under the following variations of surname but without luck. (dollz, doels, doltz, doles, doeltz, doelz, doellz, dolz, doelds, dolzie). The librarian at the local FHL thinks this section of Germany may not have been filmed yet. Does anyone out there know this to be true? ______________________________

--WebTV-Mail-21154-762 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit i dont remember who first posted this address but its worth posting again. if you dont read german,dont give up-type your surname or village in the rectangular box,then i scroll down to the little square boxes and x in all the ones that arent x'd in,then i scroll upwards again and for the first time, i click on the word suchen (search.) when the results page comes up,scroll down till you see all the websites and scroll till you see one that's interesting and click on its address. use your back button to rtn to the list where you left off. --WebTV-Mail-21154-762 X-URL-Title: Deutsche Meta-Suchmaschine Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit http://meta.rrzn.uni-hannover.de/ --WebTV-Mail-21154-762--

can someone differentiate between, if any, between evangelische as opposed to lutherisch..i nkow the Kaiser for example f used Reform/Lutheran into the Evangelische Kirche der Union, which was quite popular throughout Prussia but in Thuringia and Saxony there are Ev-lutherische Kirchen and Freie lutherische Kirchen...and there are Reformkirchen..perhaps someone can explain these///thanks J. Froebel-Parker ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GERMANKING] Evangelische, Germany > Date: Monday, October 11, 1999 5:50 PM > > Evangelische is a religion (evangelical lutheran = protestant), not a place. > > Hope this helps. > > Thilo Agthe > Brooklyn, NY > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Sister, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] >

At 8:45 AM -0500 10/13/99, [email protected] wrote: >Good morning >Can someone tell me what Kreis means? After this word is RA GADEBUSCH > > Thank you, > > CHs > Literally, 'Kreis' means circle, but it refers to the area *around* a particular city. In essence, consider it the same as an American "county". I'm not able to find a Kreis that was spelled 'Ragad______'. Could it be spelled differently? James

Hi - I do not know the specifics of the different parts of Germany but in general, Reformed refers to Protestants who followed John Calvin's ideas. Lutherans, of course, followed Luther's. In the early years there was no central church administration like there is today. That came gradually as the smaller 'politcal' states of Germany becoame more and more united I know that Lutherans and Reformed were fused in Prussia because someone,the king (?) who was married to a woman of the opposite faith and they could not take communion together. He thought that was ridiculous and said the had to combine and open their tables to the other. I do not know for sure if that is the same as the Prussian Union, I think it is. King Frederick William III started the Evangelical Church, the church of the PrussiianUnion in 1817. The Evangelical Church brought to this country was not Lutheran and not Reformed in the Germans who came to the USA. The Evangelical Church later merged with the Reformed church here, making the Evangelical and Reformed (E and R). That denomination later (1957) merged with the Congregational-Christian denomination to become the United Church of Christ. Paul Tillich, and the Neibuhr brothers, Richard and Reinhold, (famous American theologians) were members of the Evangelical Church. But that does not answer your whole question. but it is a start. Nancy froebel wrote: > can someone differentiate between, if any, between evangelische as opposed > to lutherisch..i nkow the Kaiser for example f used Reform/Lutheran into > the Evangelische Kirche der Union, which was quite popular throughout > Prussia but in Thuringia and Saxony there are Ev-lutherische Kirchen and > Freie lutherische Kirchen...and there are Reformkirchen..perhaps someone > can explain these///thanks > J. Froebel-Parker > > ---------- > > From: [email protected] > > To: GERMAN-K[email protected] > > Subject: Re: [GERMANKING] Evangelische, Germany > > Date: Monday, October 11, 1999 5:50 PM > > > > Evangelische is a religion (evangelical lutheran = protestant), not a > place. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Thilo Agthe > > Brooklyn, NY > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > > Sister, > > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected]

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