My g-uncle was born 06 Jul 1853 in Nichtewitz, Kingdom of Saxoney. I cannot find the location of this city. I would like to find a church so I may request info there. Thanks to everyone in advance, Kristina

Roquey G Jobes Jr, wrote: > > Need help in identification of birth palace of heritage, please! > In a citizenship application of 1872 in Texas, USA he > indicated his birth place was: > > +++ " Kreis Leiblenetz, Bezek, Upper Silesia " +++ That must be "Lublinitz, Bezirk Oberschlesien". Guttentag is about 18 km far from Lublinitz (today: Lubliniec), which was the county town there. You will find it north of Gleiwitz and Beuthen. > His name was Jacob ZAJAC ( or Americanized to Jacob ZAIONTZ) > born c. 1819 immigrated c.1854 Texas with wife Agatha (? ANIOL). > There were other ZAJAC relatives known to have lived in > old Germany (Prussia / Silesia) near Guttentag ( now > Dobrodzien ) <an area between Opole & Czestochowa >. East of Oppeln, south of Tschenstochau, yes. Dieter

Kreis Leiblenetz, Bezek, Upper Silesia is now in the district of Opole, Poland Kreis = county or district. W. David Samuelsen

Pat McCoy What is the family name that you are looking for? Myers? If so I have alot of information. D. Myers

Patricia I don't believe there is such a place in Germany. The Post Office can't find it and it doesn't show up on Expedia Maps. [email protected] wrote: > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [GERMANKING] Can someone help me with a translation? > Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:50:29 -0500 > From: Patricia McCoy <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Good morning! > > I went to this URL and typed in WATERHOLZ to see > if I could find anything. I got the following response: > > "

Need help in identification of birth palace of heritage, please! In a citizenship application of 1872 in Texas, USA he indicated his birth place was: +++ " Kreis Leiblenetz, Bezek, Upper Silesia " +++ His name was Jacob ZAJAC ( or Americanized to Jacob ZAIONTZ) born c. 1819 immigrated c.1854 Texas with wife Agatha (? ANIOL). There were other ZAJAC relatives known to have lived in old Germany (Prussia / Silesia) near Guttentag ( now Dobrodzien ) <an area between Opole & Czestochowa >. Any help most appreciated. Thanks, Anna Jobes (Louisiana USA) >>> Bedürfnis Hilfe in identification von Geburt Ort der Erbschaft, bitte! **** In einer citizenship Anwendung von 1872 in Texas, Vereinigten Staaten den er hat angezeigt, daß seinem Geburt Ort: *** war** +++ " Kreis Leiblenetz, Bezek, Ober Silesia " +++ Sein Name war Jacob ZAJAC (oder Americanized zu Jacob ZAIONTZ) ,** geboren c.1819,** eingewandert c. 1854 zu Texas, ** mit Frau Agatha (? ANIOL). **** Es gab anderen ZAJAC Verwandte die bekannt sind, in altem Deutschland ** (Prussia/Silesia) nah Guttentag (jetzt Dobrodzien) gelebt zu haben **** Ein Gebiet zwischen Opole & Czestochowa. **** Irgendeine Hilfe viel geschätzt. ** Dank! Anna Jobes (Louisiana USA) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

I am trying to research my mother's family. Her mother was Emma Titz, born in Peterkow, Russia and her father was Edward Riemer, born in Zagrov, Poland. They were married in a Lutheran church at Douglas, North Dakota in 1908. The families migrated from Usteen Colony, Poland; Passen er Territory, Poland and Jitomuv, Volhynia. I am looking for any available infromation.

Hi Pat, do you want all of it translated, or is it enough to know that the result of your query was: no hits? Kind regards / Met vriendelijke groet, Sietske Hoogerhuis <[email protected]> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: Patricia McCoy <[email protected]> Aan: <[email protected]> Verzonden: dinsdag 19 oktober 1999 15:50 Onderwerp: Re: [GERMANKING] Can someone help me with a translation? Good morning! I went to this URL and typed in WATERHOLZ to see if I could find anything. I got the following response: "Fundstellen Falls Sie noch keine Erfahrungen mit Volltextsuchfunktionen haben, finden Sie > hier einige Erla(umlaut)uterungen zur Volltextsuche der Deutschen Post. Gesamtangebot Suchabfrage: "Waterholz" im Gesamtangebot Keine Treffer." I'm not certain what this all means. Help? Thanks! Pat McCoy ============================================ Roger Stange wrote: > > Neva: > > Go to: http://www.postag.de/ > > This is the German Post Office. They will show Hummersen with a new name > 32676 Lügde > > > > > Subject: [GERMANKING] zip code > > Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:04:31 -0500 > > From: "Neva & Donna Muehlenbein" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > > > I made a mistake in the name of the town. It is Hummersen. Close to > > Reelkirchen and Bloomberg and Detmold. I went to the address you said and > > and they still say no city by that name. I found it on Expedia maps so I > > know it is there. > > Sorry to be so much trouble. > > Neva > > > > ______________________________ > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== Brother, Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected]

Good morning! I went to this URL and typed in WATERHOLZ to see if I could find anything. I got the following response: "Fundstellen Falls Sie noch keine Erfahrungen mit Volltextsuchfunktionen haben, finden Sie > hier einige Erla(umlaut)uterungen zur Volltextsuche der Deutschen Post. Gesamtangebot Suchabfrage: "Waterholz" im Gesamtangebot Keine Treffer." I'm not certain what this all means. Help? Thanks! Pat McCoy ============================================ Roger Stange wrote: > > Neva: > > Go to: http://www.postag.de/ > > This is the German Post Office. They will show Hummersen with a new name > 32676 Lügde > > > > > Subject: [GERMANKING] zip code > > Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:04:31 -0500 > > From: "Neva & Donna Muehlenbein" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > > > I made a mistake in the name of the town. It is Hummersen. Close to > > Reelkirchen and Bloomberg and Detmold. I went to the address you said and > > and they still say no city by that name. I found it on Expedia maps so I > > know it is there. > > Sorry to be so much trouble. > > Neva > > > > ______________________________ > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected]

> Neva: Go to: http://www.postag.de/ This is the German Post Office. They will show Hummersen with a new name 32676 Lügde > > Subject: [GERMANKING] zip code > Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:04:31 -0500 > From: "Neva & Donna Muehlenbein" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > I made a mistake in the name of the town. It is Hummersen. Close to > Reelkirchen and Bloomberg and Detmold. I went to the address you said and > and they still say no city by that name. I found it on Expedia maps so I > know it is there. > Sorry to be so much trouble. > Neva > > ______________________________ > >

Dear Listers Does anyone know where Kassovo is. It is supposed to be in Prussia. Help! Donna

Dear folks, I got several responses to my last posting and thought I'd put out a little summary of Eichsfeld history, for your additions and corrections. Many of you are much more experienced than I, and have been investigating this beautiful region for longer than one year. My Catholic Eichsfelder ancestral surnames include Bohme, Brodmann, Gabel, Gassdorf, Goebel (2), Hagedorn, Hartlieb, Heinemann, Hey (2), Junemann?,Kobert?, Kruse (3), Kuhn, Muller(2), Rehbein, Schnemann, Schuchardt, Steinmetz, Thieme, and Wollf. If I get a chance to check parish registers next year the surnames will greatly increase. In the 13th generation we have 8192 ancestors. Many villages had fewer than 400 inhabitants who left descendants who survive today. I'm sure every one in little villages, where people have intermarried for 13 generations, shares at least one blood line with his neighbors. Village families were not immobile, however. In Steinbach, for instance, only about 4 of about 40 surnames found before the 30 years war occurs after the war. There was some inheritance through daughters, I imagine, but many villagers sold out, fled, or died of famine, plague or war. Outsiders, fleeing similar conditions elsewhere, moved in when their own latest disaster was over. Usually a third of a peasant's farm produce went to his lay and clerical overlords, a third fed his family and another third was seed for the next year's crop. One of the three had to "give" when harvests were bad, and landlords could enforce their demands, so peasant children often starved in years following successive bad harvests in the 1480's, 1490's and 1518-1519. If a peasant was unable to pay rent, he could work as a farm hand, and marry later. Peasants were usually tenants, and were not bound to the land like serfs. But even serfs had rights. In the middle ages if a serf resided in a free town for a year, he became free. The peasant revolt led by Thomas Minter of nearby Mulhausen in the 1520's fascinates me. It was part of the largest peasant uprising in Western history. Over 100,000 of the 300,000 peasants involved were killed in the revolt, or executed afterwards! Due to bad harvests in 1518 and 1519 it was impossible for peasants to pay the great tax (in wheat) and still have enough to eat and to plant the following spring. Hans Boheim, a Wurtzberg Shepherd who saw a vision of Mary, was a leveler who preached to crowds of 40,000 in Niklashausen, before being burned at the stake by the Bishop of Wurtzberg. The banner of the revolt was a flag depicting the foot wrappings (Bundschuh) of peasants too poor to afford leather soles. Their 1525 manifesto contained 12 demands including the abolition of serfdom, for fewer services to landlords, more rights to hunt small game and pick up wood in the forests, elimination of the small tithes (paid in sheep, barley, acorns and other incidental farm produce), and the right to elect their own pastors. The peasants set up an alternative government based on a free assembly, which even Martin Luther found subversive. Durrer's "Monument to defeated peasants" drawing shows a peasant stabbed in the back at the top of a pillar of farm implements. It was not just peasants who rebelled. In 1522 many knights also rebelled, because of the encroachment of the territorial princes like the Schwartzburgs of Sonderhausen on their privileges, and because both knights and towns were marginalized by the advent of cannon and siege warfare, and both nights and burgers wanted freedom of conscience. Prior to the Prussian occupation of Eichsfeld in 1803 religious institutions kept the best records of land holdings, but I am not sure of the conditions of Eichsfeld land tenure. The Archbishop of Mainz was the ultimate landlord, and church records in Mainz should contain lists of Eichsfeld villagers from 1300 AD onward, but they would not be indexed. Does anyone know anything about Kur-Mainzer records 1200-1803? Does anyone know about the Prussian land and police records after 1803? The civil office in Heiligenstadt was uncooperative in locating land documents, perhaps because titles have been disputed after the fall of East German Communism. What do others do? Yours cordially, Peter Kruse Wilson

Thought I would mention that I have a copy of Volume II of Jones' book The Palatine Families of New York and I am willing to do lookups..(I'm trying to track down Volume I)..The book is arranged alphabetically and Vol II starts with M through Z, but it includes an index for both volumes, so I could at least give page numbers for names before M that would be in Vol I.. In case someone is not familiar with this group..they emigrated from Germany from 1709 onward and settled in New York State on a land grant given to an Englishman..there are, of course, numerous Palatine websites that give an interesting history about these intrepid 'pioneers'....Jerri in Calif...

I sent a reference about a map from the Rockstuhl Verlag (Publishers) recently. I've looked at their website http://www.th-online.de/FIRMEN/verlag-rockstuhl/f_start.html and they have many interesting Heimat books, village histories and maps for Thueringen and Saxony. The website and the books are in German, but may be of use for many researchers in this area. Jon

My zipcode book indicates Hummersen 32676 = Lugde with a Blomberg at 32825 and a Detmold at 39291 and Reelkirchen at 32825 = Blomberg Bernie Farmer Neva & Donna Muehlenbein wrote: > I made a mistake in the name of the town. It is Hummersen. Close to > Reelkirchen and Bloomberg and Detmold. I went to the address you said and > and they still say no city by that name. I found it on Expedia maps so I > know it is there. > Sorry to be so much trouble. > Neva > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected]

Here an interesting database, containing many families and links for Thuringia, Hessia and Franconia. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/0.html Have a look on the surname list to see whether there is something for you! Ciao Bernd - ---------------------------------------------------------- Don't forget to check sometimes the Genealogy pages: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/0.html Special researches: Freibott Family http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/1.html Limpert Family http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/4.html Index of family names: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7765/family/surnames.htm - ---------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi, I am looking for some information on my family. Ernst,August Selmer from Neustrelitz He had 2 sons and 4 daughters Theodor Selmer born August 12.1788 married Jan.10 1817 Neustrelitz Friederike ,Wilhelmine,Elisabeth,Dorothea Winterberg Karl Selmer Postman in Neustrelitz Luise Selmer married name Plettner Frida Selmer married name Lawitzky Auguste Selmer married name Frodien the Frodiens lived later in Stettin Hannchen Selmer never married Theodor Selmer died Dec.31 1839 in Neustrelitz His son was Moritz, Carl Selmer lived in Dulzig Married 1861 Frida ,Charlotte, Johanna Schröder-Richter lived in Schwessin There son Otto,Wilhelm,Heinrich,Ernst Selmer was born 1868 in Dulzig Otto Selmer married in 1904 Hedwig ,Marie,Anna Bandemer born Feb.6 1884 in Klutschau- Linzelitz Kreis Lauenburg Pommern it is now Polish. The Parents of Hedwig Bandemer Oskar Bandemer born in Baldenburg died in Adlig Pollnitz (Kreis Schlochau) and Marie Brandt born in Hoffelde died in Kolberg Parents of Oskar Bandemer Friedrich Wilhelm Bandemer born in Benzin and Emilie Vieglahn born in Zemmin (Neustettin) died in Oliva. Oskar and Marie Bandemer had 6 daugters Hedwig Bandemer-Selmer Grete Margarete Bandemer-Nebel Anni Bandemer-Schwegmann Elfriede Meda Bandemer-Wegerdt Else Bandemer-Siebert Marie Bandemer Other names are also in this family Kleist,Frank,Piper,Pahlmann, Ziska,Frey and Vieglahn Is any one doing reasearch in some of the area ,where any of this family members lived.Or is any one researching the family name I listed. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you Katharina Hines -Selmer ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

vielen Dank!! Johannes Froebel-Parker www.albany.net/~froebel/ with some Thuringian information on this site ---------- > From: dwat <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GERMANKING] zip codes > Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 6:00 PM > > You can discover every German zip code at > http://users.rootsweb.com/~deuhes/Hessen/index.htm > in the Table of Links, Choose-A-Link. We even have > an old 4-digit to new 5-digit zip code converter, zip > code maps, explanations .. you name it. > > ;~) > Don > > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Sister, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] >

I made a mistake in the name of the town. It is Hummersen. Close to Reelkirchen and Bloomberg and Detmold. I went to the address you said and and they still say no city by that name. I found it on Expedia maps so I know it is there. Sorry to be so much trouble. Neva

You can discover every German zip code at http://users.rootsweb.com/~deuhes/Hessen/index.htm in the Table of Links, Choose-A-Link. We even have an old 4-digit to new 5-digit zip code converter, zip code maps, explanations .. you name it. ;~) Don