They didn't ask for any payment at all. I e-mailed my request and didn't hear anything in return for a couple weeks. It was a very pleasant surprise to find a response, even in German. I plugged it in the babelfish translation site--easy! If someone doesn't want to attempt writing (that's for you, Pat,) in German, I'd use one of the form letters available for use on the various German Genealogy sites or use a translation site such as babelfish to write your own letter and translate it into German. http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Neva & Donna Muehlenbein <[email protected]> To: Westmas Family <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANKING] State Archives-Detmold Nancy, what was the charge for the emmigration lookup and did you pay in American money or German? I need to look up my Mühlenbein family who left Germany in 1854. Neva -----Original Message----- From: Westmas Family <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 2:13 PM Subject: [GERMANKING] State Archives-Detmold >Pat McCoy asked for info on the State Archives in Detmold. > >Their e-mail address is [email protected] > >Nordrhein-Westfälisches Staatsarchive Detmold >Willi-Hofmann-Str.2 >32756 Detmold > >They did a look up of Auswanderung (emigration) requests for me. I e-mailed >my request in my feeble German and they replied in German. > >Good luck >Nancy > > > >==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== >Brother, >Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? >Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > >

Thanks for the information. Unfortunately, I don't know enough German to make a comprehensible sentence. My German-speaking ancestors died before I was born. I'm hoping and praying that maybe, someone understands my English Thanks again! Pat ==================================================== Westmas Family wrote: > Pat McCoy asked for info on the State Archives in Detmold. > > Their e-mail address is [email protected] > > Nordrhein-Westfälisches Staatsarchive Detmold > Willi-Hofmann-Str.2 > 32756 Detmold > > They did a look up of Auswanderung (emigration) requests for me. I e-mailed > my request in my feeble German and they replied in German. > > Good luck > Nancy > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected]

Subj: Re: [GERMAN-KINGDOMS-L] Searching Info on Uefingen Date: 5/31/99 3:49:57 PM Central Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Jens Th. Kaufmann) To: [email protected] [email protected] schrieb: > I am searching information on A town called Uefingen. from the fromer Duchy > of Brunsweig. My GGGGreat Grandfather Heinrich Schnoeker possibly lived here. > This is from a source Book written By Fritz Gruhne "AUSWANDERNLISTENDES > EHEMALIGEN HERTZOGTUMUS BRAUNSWEIG: OHNE STADT BRAUNSWEIG UND LAND KREIS > HOLZMINDEN 1846-1871" Is anyone familiar with this town which churches exist > there is there anyone who has a town register. please if this is your area of > expertise please e-mail me directly > Jennifer Reynoso Dear Jennifer, I am doing research in the former Duchy of Braunschweig. The church records of �fingen start already in 1624/1641 (with some holes) and are available at the State Archive in Wolfenb�ttel near Braunschweig, so if you wish I can research your ancestors there. My research fee is $ 30 per hour. The archive fee is $ 2 per day, the travelling costs are $ 3. I will do one-day-projects (abt 8 hours) and send you a report and a bill afterwards. Already in 1662 a Heinrich Schn�cker in Lesse got married to Ottilia Himstedt. This couple might be the ancestors of the Schn�kers in �fingen (Lesse is located not far from �fingen). Are you already sure that Johann Heinrich Andreas Schn�ker from �fingen who emigrated in 1847 is your ancestor? Looking forward to your reply, Jens Th. Kaufmann Dipl.-Bibl., genealogist Reisweg 10 38116 Braunschweig Germany

<A HREF="http://genweb.net/~gen-cds/cdlist.html">Genealogy CD List</A> http://genweb.net/~gen-cds/cdlist.html This site has volunteers who will look up the Broderbunder CDs free of charge. Try it, I have had good luck with it. Marilynn Santspree Orlando, Florida [email protected]

Pat McCoy asked for info on the State Archives in Detmold. Their e-mail address is [email protected] Nordrhein-Westfälisches Staatsarchive Detmold Willi-Hofmann-Str.2 32756 Detmold They did a look up of Auswanderung (emigration) requests for me. I e-mailed my request in my feeble German and they replied in German. Good luck Nancy

I would like to request a similar look-up for the Friedrich Moritz family who are also on CD # 356 and CD # 354...the information on the CD # 356 is supposed to be the passenger list for the ship they were on (CIMBRIA , Hamburg > NYC, Aug 1875)...I would like to know if it is the complete passenger list and what other info (if any ) is on this CD....and how I could go about getting a copy of this info. Thank you...Malinda Thiessen Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: Dallas T Ebest <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 12:26 PM Subject: [GERMANKING] Ebest Family > Help ! Would anyone that has Family Tree Maker CD#356 mind looking up > the surname > EBEST . they arrived in the USA in the mid 1880's from Germany.Thanks in > advance. > Dallas.. post to the web or to me directly > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] >

Help ! Would anyone that has Family Tree Maker CD#356 mind looking up the surname EBEST . they arrived in the USA in the mid 1880's from Germany.Thanks in advance. Dallas.. post to the web or to me directly

Hello List: Can anyone give me the E-mail address of a researcher in the Braunschweig (Brunswick) area ? [email protected]

I would also be interested in a Braunschweig researcher. Cary

<[email protected]> on 10/26/99 12:10:50 PM I'm looking for Mikeman's in Germany. Other variations of the spelling include Miekman, Meinkmann ....so I believe. They entered the U.S. and settled in Missouri. Thanks Jeannie email: [email protected]

Thanks, Curt! I was able to find the website. Now the next challenge is how to translate what's there to English so I can understand what I'm reading. Thanks, again! Pat ============================================================ [email protected] wrote: > <<"The family WATERHOLTER, also written WATERHOLTER with an umlaut over the > 'O', comes from Wissentrup, which lies near Lage, close to Detmold." > "There is still a piece of land there that is still called "The WATERHOLZ". > I'm in the process of trying to get the address of the State Archives in > Detmold >> > > Patricia, > Hey, this is pretty exciting. I am researching close to the same area. My > ancesters came from farms near the villages of > Hörtsmar & Hagen just a 4 miles northeast of Wissentrup. My atlas shows > Wissentrup just 1 mile southwest of Lage. No map references to 'The > Waterholz', but it may be an area too small for my atlas to show. > > Please check out the Nordrhein-Westfalen rootsweb site & choose > Kreis-Lippe. All the needed info is located there from state archive > addresses to church addressess to local genealogical societies addresses. > They also list URL's for each. > http://www2.genealogy.net/gene/reg/NRHE-WFA/lippe_ev-d.html > This is an old URL & may not be good still. If you can't find the website, > let me know & I'll forward the URL when I get home from work. > > The following site gives a short history of the Principality of Lippe (and > the nobility) > http://w3g.med.uni-giessen.de/gene/reg/NRHE-WFA/lippe.html > > Just for the fun of it, why don't you do a German telephone directory > search to see if there are WALTERHOLTER/WALTERHOLZ families still there. > Go to: > http://www02.teleauskunft.de/cgi-bin/tron.cgi > or http://www.teldir.com/de/ > > My lines from that area: BRANDSMEIER, DRIER, HOFEMANN, DUSTERSIEK, > EHLENBROKER, ENGELER, FINNEN, KRIETENSTEIN, PRUSZNER or PRÜSSNER. Any of > these surnames come up in your research? > > Best of luck in your search. > Curt > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected]

<<"The family WATERHOLTER, also written WATERHOLTER with an umlaut over the 'O', comes from Wissentrup, which lies near Lage, close to Detmold." "There is still a piece of land there that is still called "The WATERHOLZ". I'm in the process of trying to get the address of the State Archives in Detmold >> Patricia, Hey, this is pretty exciting. I am researching close to the same area. My ancesters came from farms near the villages of Hörtsmar & Hagen just a 4 miles northeast of Wissentrup. My atlas shows Wissentrup just 1 mile southwest of Lage. No map references to 'The Waterholz', but it may be an area too small for my atlas to show. Please check out the Nordrhein-Westfalen rootsweb site & choose Kreis-Lippe. All the needed info is located there from state archive addresses to church addressess to local genealogical societies addresses. They also list URL's for each. http://www2.genealogy.net/gene/reg/NRHE-WFA/lippe_ev-d.html This is an old URL & may not be good still. If you can't find the website, let me know & I'll forward the URL when I get home from work. The following site gives a short history of the Principality of Lippe (and the nobility) http://w3g.med.uni-giessen.de/gene/reg/NRHE-WFA/lippe.html Just for the fun of it, why don't you do a German telephone directory search to see if there are WALTERHOLTER/WALTERHOLZ families still there. Go to: http://www02.teleauskunft.de/cgi-bin/tron.cgi or http://www.teldir.com/de/ My lines from that area: BRANDSMEIER, DRIER, HOFEMANN, DUSTERSIEK, EHLENBROKER, ENGELER, FINNEN, KRIETENSTEIN, PRUSZNER or PRÜSSNER. Any of these surnames come up in your research? Best of luck in your search. Curt

Good morning! I just recently received a translated letter from a possible relative in The NETHERLANDS. In part, she writes: "(her) mother was a WATERHOLTER by birth. Her family has always lived in Bunde on the border with Holland." "The family WATERHOLTER, also written WATERHOLTER with an umlaut over the 'O', comes from Wissentrup, which lies near Lage, close to Detmold." "There is still a piece of land there that is still called "The WATERHOLZ". I'm in the process of trying to get the address of the State Archives in Detmold to see if anyone there would be willing to look up any information for me since I am so far away in the United States. If anyone, on either of the two lists that I am subscribed to, can assist me, I would really appreciate it. Thanks! Pat McCoy USA

I need help in identifying the chronological history in Upper Silesia KREIS (county) regions and territory boundary limits with respect to earlier years. The place of interest is the area around Drobrodzien (Guttentag) and Lubliniec (Lublinitz) during the years from 1835 through 1880. My ZAJAC family came to Panna Maria, Texas, USA about 1855 from this area. Some records for the birth of their children are found in the Drobdozien church but family records prior to 1835 seem to originate elsewhere and searches of some surrounding villages has not located another village with ZAJAC family heritage. Other persons with the ZAJAC name also immigrated to Texas about the same time although kinship between them has not been established. There Texas records exist that show these other ZAJAC people may have come from Kreis Lublinitz (Lubliniec?). Can someone please advise me on what was the chronology dates of the existence of: Kreis Guttentag and Kreis Lublinitz (Counties)? Or Landkreis (Rural-district) same area? Is It possible the Kreis existence dates of Lublinitz may also have included in their boundary the village of Guttentag and subsequently Guttentag developed its own Kreis? And then the Kreis merged again to a Landkreis? Any explanation help appreciated, thanks. Anna Jobes (New Orleans) ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Hello List Now that I have traced my Husfeldt line to Mecklenburg-Schwerin area through census and ship list, how would you suggest I find the town he was from? Frederick Husfeldt born 1824 arrived in US on June 28, 1852, at age 28. Any suggestions would be helpful. Naturalization papers were burned in Chicago fire. Thank you

Thanks, Heinrich! I'm sharing this information with two mailing lists that I'm on in the hopes of finding more clues about great-great grandfather William Frederick WATERHOLTER. I've only found a few more clues...... He and his younger brother lived in Mrs. Benton's Boarding House in 1850 Washington, D.C. There was another German family by the last name of Selhausen. (Not sure of correct spelling.) Around 1856 or 1857, my great-great grandfather married a Jeannette Tone and my great-grandfather, Frederick William WATERHOLTER was born nine months later. I'm hoping this might help me find out more. Thanks again! Pat McCoy USA ======================================= [email protected] wrote: > Hi Pat, > > Waterholz is not on any map, as far as I know it is part of the village of Wissentrup which is close to Lage. Lage is a city between Bielefeld and Detmold. To locate these places I have attached two maps for you: > > GERMANY.JPG is a map of Germany (a bit older one, still showing the border between East and West Germany). You will find Bielefeld somewhere west of Hannover. To give you an idea about distances I also included part of a ruler into the scanned image. The > scale is 1:4,500,000 or 1 cm equals 45 km (28 mi). > > LAGE.JPG is a close-up of the part you are interested in, it shows Bielefeld on the left. The scale is 1:150,000 or 1 cm equals 1.5 km (0.9 mi). > > The pictures are of rather large size. GERMANY.JPG is 1896 pixels wide by 2522 high and LAGE.JPG is 2543 pixels wide by 1460 high. I guess your browser may display these JPEG-Files but for better viewing, scaling or printing I would recommend to export > them and run a separate graphics program. > > Regards > > Heinrich > > ___________________________________ > Heinrich Waterholter > Systems Laboratory Hamburg > Philips Semiconductors Hamburg (PSH) > Stresemannallee 101 > 22529 Hamburg, Germany > Tel.: +49 40 5613 2201 > FAX: +49 40 5613 3525 > Email: [email protected] > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: germany.jpg > germany.jpg Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) > Encoding: base64 > > Name: Lage.jpg > Lage.jpg Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) > Encoding: base64

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Hi all, have got some info about our family name, but there are some latin parts. Who can help with translation? ..friboto leno conciliator... ...scultetus per fribotonem mandabit, ut 1285... ..vriboto aut budellus... dat 18 pullos 1332... Thank's for help! Bernd ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi Bernd, I looked it up in the family book I have. It looks like Freibott are 2 names. Frei and Bott. Frei Or Frey(E) Started in the year 1259 with the name Virge,1310 Vrey It comes from the German word Freiherr and Freigeboren (Baron and freeborn). Bott - Both(e) Year 1150 Bothe it is also a trade name "Bote" ( messenger) . Maybe that will help you Katharina > >Hi all, > >have got some info about our family name, but there are some latin parts. >Who can help with translation? > >..friboto leno conciliator... > >...scultetus per fribotonem mandabit, ut 1285... > >..vriboto aut budellus... dat 18 pullos 1332... > >Thank's for help! >Bernd > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== >Brother, >Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? >Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Someone asked about Thomas Munzer's foray into Eichsfeld in 1525. This was part of the largest in several centuries of uprisings, but not the last. For a few weeks he swept all before him, even capturing nobles such as Ernst von Honstein, Gunther von Schwarzburg,Kurt von Dittichenrode, Heinrich Hake, Christopher von Alterdorf and Balthasar von Bendeleben. By May 27 he had been executed by Ernst von Mansfeld. A few books (of many) to check regarding the Peasants' War in Germany 1519-1525 : Eric Gritsch, "Reformer without a Church, The Life and Thought of Thomas Muentzer, 1488-1525" (Philadelphia 1967) Gordon Rupp, "Thomas Muntzer, The Reformer as Rebel", article in "Patterns of Reformation" (London 1969) Walter Elliger, "Thomas Muntzer, Leben und Werk", 2nd Ed. (Gottingen 1975) in German Hand-Jurgen Goertz, "Thomas Muntzer, Revolutionary in a Mystical Spirit" in "Proviles of Radical Reformers, Biographical Sketches from Thomas Muntzer to Paraacelsus"(Kitchener, Scottdale PA 1982) Mark Edwards, "Luther and the False Brethren" (Stanford CA 1975) Hans-Jurgen Goertz, The Mystic with the Hammer, Thomas Muntzer's Theological Basis for Revolution" in "Mennonite Quarterly Review" L 1976 Peter Bickle, "The Revolution of 1525, The German Peasants' War from a new Perspective" (Baltimore MD 1981) Max Steinmetz, "Das Muntzerbild von Martin Luther bis Friedrich Engels" in "Leipzeiger Ubersetzungen und Abhandlungen zum Mittelalter, series B IV" (Berlin 1971)