Thanks, Roger. I just recently attempted to post the information from my web page and encountered computer problems. Also, please keep in mind that this information is from a cousin's line. We feel that the forbears of the WATERHOLTER Family line, Johann and Anna Catharina WATERHOLTER, may have had more than one child.......one of them being either the son (or maybe he may be the grandson), William Frederick WATERHOLTER (my great-great grandfather). I'm going to see if I can post the information either in plain text and if not, give the URL so others can go to the website and read the information there. Thanks, again! Pat ============================================= "randc.hanneman" wrote: > Pat, Go ahead, that's what the forum is for, to learn and help one another. > Roger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pat McCoy <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 5:39 PM > Subject: [GERMANKING] Sharing clues from recently translated letter > > > Good evening. > > > > I posted a few days ago regarding a recently translated > > letter that I received from The Netherlands. > > > > I was able to analyze the letter further, I found more > > genealogical information that may give more clues > > to solving the mystery of the WATERHOLTERS. > > I'm hesitant in posting the information here as I do not > > want to antagonize anyone. May I ask permission? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Pat McCoy > > > > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > > Brother, > > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > > > >

Excellent information on how to write a german letter: http://www.familysearch.org/sg/LGGerman.html

Pat, Go ahead, that's what the forum is for, to learn and help one another. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat McCoy <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 5:39 PM Subject: [GERMANKING] Sharing clues from recently translated letter > Good evening. > > I posted a few days ago regarding a recently translated > letter that I received from The Netherlands. > > I was able to analyze the letter further, I found more > genealogical information that may give more clues > to solving the mystery of the WATERHOLTERS. > I'm hesitant in posting the information here as I do not > want to antagonize anyone. May I ask permission? > > Thank you. > > Pat McCoy > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Brother, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] > >

Hi - check out these lists - some of them are pretty interesting :) I bet you'll find a new one that can help you out :) Julie URL: http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html

Good evening. I posted a few days ago regarding a recently translated letter that I received from The Netherlands. I was able to analyze the letter further, I found more genealogical information that may give more clues to solving the mystery of the WATERHOLTERS. I'm hesitant in posting the information here as I do not want to antagonize anyone. May I ask permission? Thank you. Pat McCoy

At 4:37 PM -0700 10/29/99, L. Vande Bruggen wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: L. Vande Bruggen >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 1:47 PM > > >I am still searching for Zagrov, Poland. My great grandfather lived there >in a German farming community. My grandfather was born there in 1885. It >was at that time possibly under Russian control. Please. Anybody out there >with some suggestions? > >______________________________ Here is a search of the JewishGen Shtetl Seeker, of all Eastern Europe. These were closest to Zagrov using the DM code 459700. If I were guessing, I'd begin with the one closest to the German border, probably Zegrowo 191.9 miles W of Warsaw. Then as 'dwat' says: (often) >You can check every town and church in Germany at >http://users.rootsweb.com/~deuhes/Hessen/index.htm, Have fun, Pat Schubert Zippin DM code 459700 - Longitude,Lat. Language N, Country, miles from capital. SUCHORABA 4959 2012 N Poland 160.3 miles SSW of Warsaw ZAGOROW 5210 1754 N Poland 131.3 miles W of Warsaw ZAGOROW 4938 2031 N Poland 181.9 miles S of Warsaw ZAGOROWA 5018 1949 N Poland 144.0 miles SSW of Warsaw ZAGROBA (ALEKSANDROWO) 5238 1954 V Poland 53.3 miles WNW of Warsaw ZAGROBY 5306 2201 N Poland 72.5 miles NE of Warsaw ZAGROBY 5150 2118 N Poland 31.5 miles SSE of Warsaw ZAHOROW 5156 2330 N Poland 108.3 miles E of Warsaw ZAKUROWIE 5121 1854 N Poland 109.1 miles SW of Warsaw ZEGROWO 5202 1629 N Poland 191.9 miles W of Warsaw

I am searching for information regarding the parents and siblings and ancestors of my Grandfather Paul Gustav Kruger, b:12 Mar 1884 Berlin Germany, he was the s/o Judas Krueger and Christina Feierabend no birth dates. The siblings that I have are Louise Anna b: 14 Aug 1881, also Paul's twin brother who passed away at birth. Their also may have been two more brothers named Herman and Richard. The family moved from Germany to the USA possibly around 1885-1890 in the St. Paul Mn area. Grandfather served in the US Army from 1904-1907 in the Phillipines and then came into Ontario Canada around 1908. any information would be appreciated..... Thank you , Eugene Weirmeir

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You can research anything in German genealogy via http://users.rootsweb.com/~deuhes/Hessen/index.htm Just use the Table of Links, Choose-A-Link. Be patient, be thorough, be creative! ;D on Genealogy: It's about time.

You might want to try a great location I just discovered yesterday. Microsoft Expedia Maps- Place Finder Just search for "Zagrov" and see what they come up with. It will search for places that look and sound like Zagrov, too! http://maps.expedia.com/pf_contents.asp

The obituary of my husband's great-grandfather states that he was born Friedrich Christian KRITZMAN, duchy of Coburg, Saxony, Gotha Deisbam, in Marcus, Germany, on 14 Oct 1836." I am thinking that Deisbam would refer to the town that he was born in, and may be the present-day Dietharz, or Deesbach, both of which are in Th"uringen. Do you think those are safe assumptions? Also, what do you think the "Marcus" is? Could that be the name of the Lutheran church he was registered in? Darlene R. Kritzman

Table of Links, Choose-A-Link: Town Locators. Click. Table of Links, Choose-A-link: Telephones/E-Mail. Click. Click on Teleauskunft. Type in the word Kirchen (church) and the name of the town. After you locate your church, go back to the same entry point and type in a surname you are looking for, and the name of the town (instead of Kirchen & the town name). See how your surnames are distributed vs-a-vs the zip code map of today. Look for clusters in the area you are interested in. Write to the church archives at the "Kirchen" address you found for all records prior to 1871. You can look for a specific church archive at Table of Links, Choose-A-Link, Archives I. The Family History Library (Catalog) Table of Links, Choose-A-Link, FastTrak Resources. The Sachsen web site is found by clicking on the flag logo near the top of the page. If you are patient and use the web site cleverly, you will need no other online research site. ;D on Genealogy: It's about time. ----- Original Message ----- From: Calvin Zippin <[email protected]> I keep looking at the Hessen index, and can't seem to find my town or church, or even the LDS catalog.

At 5:26 PM -0700 10/28/99, dwat wrote: >You can check every town and church in Germany at >http://users.rootsweb.com/~deuhes/Hessen/index.htm, >where you can also check the LDS Catalog online. > >;D on I keep looking at the Hessen index, and can't seem to find my town or church, or even the LDS catalog. Can you suggest where to look for Schuberts in Schlosschen, Saxony or Schuberts in Schlossvippach, Thuringen? Or to whom I might write for records prior to 1866? Thanks for any help. Pat Schubert Zippin Grandfather Charles Edward SCHUBERT, born 17 May 1864 in Saxony, perhaps Schlosschen (50.45 13.02), or Schlossvippach in Thuringen. In 1866 he emigrated with his father, Unknown SCHUBERT, his stepmother UNKNOWN, brothers Bernard, Frederich, 3 daughters, 1 step-daughter. 1 daughter Karoline returned to Germany in 1875. 20 Nov 1892 Charles SCHUBERT married Mattie Ruth LEWIS, born 8 Jan 1866 in Tiffin, Seneca Cnty, OH. They were married in Cherokee, Cherokee Cnty, IA. Witnesses were Germany; Frederick L. & Lettie R. Lewis / Ohio; J.W. & Harriet F.(P?) Foster

----- Original Message ----- From: L. Vande Bruggen To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 1:47 PM I am still searching for Zagrov, Poland. My great grandfather lived there in a German farming community. My grandfather was born there in 1885. It was at that time possibly under Russian control. Please. Anybody out there with some suggestions?

I'm looking for info. on ancestors/decendents of G. Fridolin WEBER who came to New York from Switzerland in 1855 with wife Varina of Baden. I'm decended from their son Fredolin Weber of St. Paul Minnesota. email if you have info. to [email protected] Thanks...Ken

Does anyone have information on the ship S.S. ""F.A. Paliner" ? According to Germans to America" my ancestors arrived on this ship in New York in April of 1855. I'd be interested in any information anyone has on this ship or resources to find more info. I don't always get a chance to read my newsgroups: I'd appreciate a direct email if you have info. at [email protected] Thanks...Ken

Greetings, A presumably German man with the first name of "Gerye" was listed as a witness to a marriage in 1872. Does anyone know if the name of Gerye actually existed back then, or if it is a misspelling? Thank you, Darlene R. Kritzman

A hearty thank you to all the great folks who responded to my dilemma about the town Wodonwitz or Wodorwitz. I appreciate you taking the time to look it up and get back to me. Thanks again. Sara in Alaska

Dear Pat, The German Church records that I have recently come across give the name of the deceased, followed by place of residence, age, date of death, and date of burial.. Sometimes the last column is empty and I have not spent enough time analyzing the information when it is there to determine what it is. Those church records that I have looked at from German congregations here in the states seem to organize it with the date of death first, followed by burial, name, place of birth, cemetery and then cause of death if known. Perhaps different groups chose different methods of organizing the information. It seems like the early German records are just written out in paragraph form. I really like it when they got to the column method of recording. It sure simplifies it for us nonGerman speaking folks. From my experience this seemed to occur around 1840. Sounds like you are finding information and that sure makes genealogy a worthwhile hobby. Sara in Alaska

Pat You should have two column at the left for" first the date of death and second the date of burial., the next columns are the name of the deceased and the age at the time of death. The final two columns (sometimes only one) are for the cause of death. Arnold ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 9:22 AM Subject: [GERMANKING] Lists of Deaths > I am going through German parish records and would like to know what the six > headings are at the top of each page. I know one is the name and another is > the age of the people at the time of his death, but I cannot make out the > rest. > > Thanks, > Pat > > > ==== GERMAN-KINGDOMS Mailing List ==== > Sister, > Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > Ask me why..... mailto:[email protected] >