> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Judy Olson <jolson@rea-alp.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm helping a friend locate info on the passenger lists for her >> ggrandfather Peter Nicholas Beheng, who immigrated from Prussia to >> Belle Plain, Scott Co., Minnesota in about 1867. His wife-to-be Anna >> Von Pitz b. >> about 1842 was also on the ship. I'm told the captain wouldn't let >> them leave the ship until he married them, supposed to protect women >> on the voyage. >> >> However, I'm having trouble finding that Beheng name as it is spelled >> so very many ways. So is Von Pitz, for that matter. Does anyone know >> how the original spelling might be? Thanks. Judy Judy, sorry for jumping in. My suggestion would be to go to www.familysearch.org While on their website click on "Go to previous version" (it's somewhere near the middle of that site on the right and displayed on grey background) which takes you to the old version of their website. Enter your surname of interest Beheng (nothing else) Let it search for all events. For country choose Germany and leave the default setting to look in all states in place On the next screen showing the search results go to the IGI for Germany (there's a link to it in a box on the right) This will take you to the next window with about 56 hits for people with the surname Beheng You'll immediately notice records for males with the given name "Petrus" = Latin for "Peter" and/or with given name "Nicolaus" = Latin equivalent for "Nicholas" or similar. May be one of these is one of your ancestors. Since you didn't provide the age for the people of interest and/or their assumed birth year I can't tell more right now, sorry. Anyway, both places which appear in the IGI = Fliessem as well as Waxweiler are in what was part of Prussia in those old days and are today located in the German state Rheinland-Pfalz = Rhineland-Palatinate and that's the region to concentrate your research on. Hope that helps, Vera Nagel, Germany
Thanks so very much. I'm forwarding your instructions to the Beheng descendent, and she will follow up on this, I'm sure. She is just getting started with genealogy and is very interested in learning how to research successfully. Many thanks for responding. Judy -------------------------------------------------- From: "Vera Nagel" <vpanews@t-online.de> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 3:33 AM To: <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Spelling of the name Beheng >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Judy Olson <jolson@rea-alp.com> > wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm helping a friend locate info on the passenger lists for her >>> ggrandfather Peter Nicholas Beheng, who immigrated from Prussia to >>> Belle Plain, Scott Co., Minnesota in about 1867. His wife-to-be Anna >>> Von Pitz b. >>> about 1842 was also on the ship. I'm told the captain wouldn't let >>> them leave the ship until he married them, supposed to protect women >>> on the voyage. >>> >>> However, I'm having trouble finding that Beheng name as it is spelled > >>> so very many ways. So is Von Pitz, for that matter. Does anyone know >>> how the original spelling might be? Thanks. Judy > > Judy, > > sorry for jumping in. My suggestion would be to go to > > www.familysearch.org > > While on their website click on "Go to previous version" (it's somewhere > near the middle of that site on the right and displayed on grey > background) which takes you to the old version of their website. > > Enter your surname of interest Beheng (nothing else) > Let it search for all events. > For country choose Germany and leave the default setting to look in all > states in place > On the next screen showing the search results go to the IGI for Germany > (there's a link to it in a box on the right) > This will take you to the next window with about 56 hits for people with > the surname Beheng > > You'll immediately notice records for males with the given name "Petrus" > = Latin for "Peter" and/or with given name "Nicolaus" = Latin equivalent > for "Nicholas" or similar. May be one of these is one of your ancestors. > Since you didn't provide the age for the people of interest and/or their > assumed birth year I can't tell more right now, sorry. > > Anyway, both places which appear in the IGI = Fliessem as well as > Waxweiler are in what was part of Prussia in those old days and are > today located in the German state Rheinland-Pfalz = Rhineland-Palatinate > and that's the region to concentrate your research on. > > Hope that helps, > Vera Nagel, Germany > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5028 - Release Date: 05/28/12 >
Antonina and Judy: Thanks for your kind words. I know of course, that you have looked into ancestry first, just as Vera Nagel suggested, because this is the first step we must take in researching our families. From there on out, we find good records at the census, military files, social security, death records and in regional and county seat files. But I also understand very well that the 4-5-6th generation of Americans are mixed with many other nationalities and ethnic groups and, therefore, the geography of all these many countries is no longer as familiar as it would be for a native of just one country, like Vera in Germany. Therefore, if you have German ancestry (and I am far better with German Bohemian and Austrian ancestry than purely German ancestry, of course) I have found that the mouse click on these maps is a wonderful tool to narrow down into a specific areas or Germany. Often we have found the "red" areas to be potent, after we could not find any clue on Ancestry, ship lists, SS and census records. But I know it is not the American record that gives us puzzles, but the difficult task where to look for whom in our ancestry, especially when they do not show the place of origin. These "verwandte.de" maps are another way to get to know one of the many countries of our families' origins. Many of us dig in Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Alsace Lorraine, Luxembourg, France, Italy, Poland, Russia, and all countries of the former Austria Hungary Monarchy of course. The easiest records to find are in Britain and Belgium, and they go back so much farther than most, because the 30 years war 1618-1648 did not damage as many churches, as they did in other places of our search. Our families became Americans by becoming "mixed ethnic groups" during so many generations living here. I know you have been into most of these areas as I meet you at the Family Research Centers. Germany is just another one "of those".... So I am glad that by using the " verwandte.de" map can familiarize yourself with the geography of a severely truncated Germany. You are well advised to use old maps before and after Word War 1 (1914-1918) also. Keep your Sherlock Holmes caps on! Good luck from Aida On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Judy Olson <jolson@rea-alp.com> wrote: > Thanks so very much. I'm forwarding your instructions to the Beheng > descendent, and she will follow up on this, I'm sure. She is just getting > started with genealogy and is very interested in learning how to research > successfully. Many thanks for responding. Judy > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Vera Nagel" <vpanews@t-online.de> > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 3:33 AM > To: <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Spelling of the name Beheng > > >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Judy Olson <jolson@rea-alp.com> > > wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I'm helping a friend locate info on the passenger lists for her > >>> ggrandfather Peter Nicholas Beheng, who immigrated from Prussia to > >>> Belle Plain, Scott Co., Minnesota in about 1867. His wife-to-be Anna > >>> Von Pitz b. > >>> about 1842 was also on the ship. I'm told the captain wouldn't let > >>> them leave the ship until he married them, supposed to protect women > >>> on the voyage. > >>> > >>> However, I'm having trouble finding that Beheng name as it is spelled > > > >>> so very many ways. So is Von Pitz, for that matter. Does anyone know > >>> how the original spelling might be? Thanks. Judy > > > > Judy, > > > > sorry for jumping in. My suggestion would be to go to > > > > www.familysearch.org > > > > While on their website click on "Go to previous version" (it's somewhere > > near the middle of that site on the right and displayed on grey > > background) which takes you to the old version of their website. > > > > Enter your surname of interest Beheng (nothing else) > > Let it search for all events. > > For country choose Germany and leave the default setting to look in all > > states in place > > On the next screen showing the search results go to the IGI for Germany > > (there's a link to it in a box on the right) > > This will take you to the next window with about 56 hits for people with > > the surname Beheng > > > > You'll immediately notice records for males with the given name "Petrus" > > = Latin for "Peter" and/or with given name "Nicolaus" = Latin equivalent > > for "Nicholas" or similar. May be one of these is one of your ancestors. > > Since you didn't provide the age for the people of interest and/or their > > assumed birth year I can't tell more right now, sorry. > > > > Anyway, both places which appear in the IGI = Fliessem as well as > > Waxweiler are in what was part of Prussia in those old days and are > > today located in the German state Rheinland-Pfalz = Rhineland-Palatinate > > and that's the region to concentrate your research on. > > > > Hope that helps, > > Vera Nagel, Germany > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5028 - Release Date: 05/28/12 > > > > German-Bohemian Heritage Society web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~gbhs/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMAN-BOHEMIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >