Lavrentiy, the transgressions of Nazis has been "paid for" by the German Government over the last 50 years to every person who has applied at their government offices for their losses. In fact, still today - 67 years after the war, the German government is sending monthly payments to people all over the world to recompense them, it comes from tax money paid by the third generation of Germans who were not yet born at the time of Nazi atrocities. In other words, while the Benes decrees are upheld and the Czech government is neither taking responsibility for the actions for what happened to the 3,2 Million Germans expelled from their homeland leaving all assets behind, the German government is still paying billions of Euros in war compensations to nations and individuals. I do not think that in the history of man such payments were made by any other nation. Of course, the young Germans, who were not even born at that time these atrocities were committed, they are being punished in finding their paychecks highly taxed by the German government in order to pay for these compensation. In other words, quite rightly, they are feeling punished for something they did not cause. After all, it is often a group of leaders serving their own interests to the detriment of the populace. And the Nazis were just such a group, like the Bolsheviks in Russia and many other such self serving leaderships in other countries as well. You know that! You also know very well that my own family was hurt on both sides of the spectrum: during the Hitler regime for anti-fascism and then again AFTER the war for just being Germans. The Czech government is just recently accepting applications for losses and each individual pursuing this will find this a very expensive undertaking, so it is the value of the property lost to make it either economically pursue-able or not. Most of the properties are requiring large amounts of investments. Aida On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 5:49 AM, Laurence Krupnak <LKrupnak@verizon.net>wrote: > / > > > Do data exist for the number of Germans who resided in the places > that you described who either joined or were conscripted in Nazi > military and they themselves committed attrocities? Any memoirs or > letters of admission or regret on what they or Germany did? > > _____ > > Lavrentiy > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aida Kraus" <draytonharbor@gmail.com> > To: <german-bohemian@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:52 PM > Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] For Aida - re: expulsion > > > > This is a witness report of people who have gone through the cruelty > > of > > expulsion from their homeland. It is a document called "Whitebook" > > and > > contains legal witness records kept in the files at Bonn by the > > German > > Government for 50 years under lock and key. However, they should have > > published it as part of truthful reporting of history after the > > homeless > > had declared their Charter. You will find that charter on the link > > listed > > below. There were 14 to 16 Million of us Germans who have lost their > > homeland after WW2. The numbers of expelled persons and their deaths > > have > > never been fully established. They were living for centuries (in some > > cases > > as natives) in countries which is now Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, > > Latvia, > > Ukraine, the different states of the former Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia > > and > > others, and their deaths were caused by mass transports, mass > > executions, > > rapes and sadistic tortures between 1945-1947, up to two years after > > the > > war. Mass graves of these martyred people are found from time to time > > even > > now at construction excavations but creates just a minimum of > > publicity, > > because it was so horrendous that even the victims would rather > > forget. > > Read the Charta at this page and notice the date of the Charter.... > > just > > 5 years after the war when wound of our losses were still fresh: > > http://www.bund-der-vertriebenen.de/derbdv/charta-en.php3 > > Aida > > > > On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 11:16 AM, <miscsearch@aol.com> wrote: > > > >> Aida, > >> > >> I found this while researching family members from Freiwaldau. What > >> is > >> your opinion of this. > >> > >> > >> > http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/whitebook/desg00.html > >> > >> I've seen postings in the past regarding propaganda and would like to > >> know what's what. 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